₦airaland Forum

redwriter:
But she's right. Not many states are self supporting and many depend on federal allocation. Fact.
Example? Ekiti state

And therein lies the problem..i would want to believe the job description of a governor is not to pine and wait for the hallowed federal allocation to get things done. Whatever happened to looking inward, making the most of what we have, better adjudication of taxpayers monies It is a gross anomaly, and but for the nitwits we have as leaders, Ekiti state and any other state should be self-sufficient...

Well i'm not a lawyer, but i really don't think they have a case unless there is currently some legislation to that effect in Nigeria that clearly states that a beach MUST have all the aforementioned services that the deceased parents are suing for..cos even in developed climes there are shark attacks, jelly fish stings at the beach and no beach managements gets sued for that, mostly all you get is some first aid, someone calls 911 and the hospital ambulance comes to pick you up..we dont have emergency response in Nigeria, and quite frankly in my 29 years of existence and visiting beaches in lagos, i have never seen one with a standby ambulance and all that shit. And they did say they were brought out, by a lifeguard i presume..only this lifeguard probably couldnt get to them in time due to the waves and all. Lawyers in the house o'er to you.

PS: i for one know pple can be difficult and stubborn. This case to me is like someone who goes to a game reserve and gets all excited, throws caution to the wind, strays from the rest of the group and find themselves in lion territory, and the lions mauled them before the tour-guide was able to shoot the lions down...the problem wasnt the tour-guide perse, the problem was that they strayed. It pains me when i hear of cases like this, when just a little caution was all that it would have took to save the life.

Very funny...i bet she prolly thot like wow these are some damn good looking fellas in here today

@Taeewo, the option for Registration for remobilisation on the website, what is ur take on it? It says there it is for corp members who have been mobilised but absconded (ran away) from service. I have a contact whose redeployment didnt work and i am advising her to just leave the state and look at exploring the remobilisation option, perhaps she would then get batch B or C. Would you advise this, i just really need second opinions so i dont end up giving bad advice

Taeewo:
Not easy to request for rejection letter in LG..

Interesting and informative write-up by Daramaol Babalola, but very flawed analysis. When juxtaposing currencies you cant use the naira as a benchmark across countries ie. When you compare the naira to dollar in Nigeria, you cant compare the naira to dollar in Ghana or any other country listed here, you can only compare the dollar to the currency in that country to have a balanced analysis. Most of these countries have currencies almost as strong as the dollar so that weakens the argument that it is expensive there. Would you say fuel is expensive if you live in America and pay 65cents per litre? I'm sure even a 5year old can fill up his/her dad's tank at that rate. Long story short that analysis is very wrong. Thanks!

steadymind:
By Daramola Babalola

On the 12th of May, 2016 Nigerians woke up to the detestable reality that they will now have to pay ₦145 per litre for Premium Motor Spirit (PMS), otherwise called petrol representing a 40% increase from the previous pump price, ₦86.50



While some are mobilizing for '#occupyNigeria season 2', labour unions in the country are currently planning to commence an indefinite nationwide strike action that will 'shutdown the economy' on Wednesday in a bid to protest the increase in fuel price.

Following the harsh economic realities Nigeria is currently facing, many Nigerians have labelled the Federal Government as being insensitive to the plight of its citizen by making fuel too expensive for consumption.

But really, how expensive is fuel in Nigeria, compared to other countries? and is the Nigerian government really insensitive? We are about to find out.

At ₦145/Litre, is fuel too expensive in Nigeria?
As surprising as it may seem, Nigeria is ranked 12th as per cheapest price of petrol in 173 countries even with the new ₦145 per litre price according to Globalpetrolprices.com

In Nigeria, fuel now costs ₦145/L and with the current exchange rate that is fluctuating between ₦320-₦360 to a dollar, it means we are paying about $0.44/L

It may however interest you to know that in United States, fuel is sold at the pump price of $0.65/L ( ₦214/L), In South Africa $0.84/L (₦277), In Russia $0.55/L (₦181/L), $0.91/L (₦300/L) in Canada, $0.92 (₦303/L) in Ghana, and it costs $0.93 (₦306/L) in China.

Some will argue that the countries above are not petroleum exporting countries (OPEC) like Nigeria, but what about OPEC member countries like Angola, where PMS is sold at $1/L (about ₦330), In Iraq at $0.64/L (₦211), In Venezuela pump price is $0.60/L (₦198/L) with President Nicolas Maduro calling the approximately ₦198/L pump price 'one of the cheapest in the world'.

Even in the oil rich, United Arab Emirates (UAE) PMS is sold at $0.45/L which is about (₦148/L) which is more expensive than the price in Nigeria.



According to Globalpetrolprices.com In Hong Kong, the pump price is set at $1.85/L (about ₦610/L) making the country the most expensive seller of gasoline in the world.



With the facts and figures above, at ₦145/L fuel is not expensive, it's actually one of the cheapest in the world, but because of the poor living conditions of millions of Nigerians, it appears expensive and thus, many Nigerians struggle to afford it.

That is why the government needs to provide welfare programs, kill that disease called corruption, invest in electricity, education, fix refineries, provide jobs and reduce poverty in the country

Is Nigeria the only country increasing pump price?

Again, the answer is a 'BIG NO'.The excruciating increase in pump price is not even limited to Nigeria alone, major oil rich countries of the world have increased their fuel price this year, some even by over 50%.

See examples below

Saudi Arabia 40% increase
In December 2015, Saudi Arabia increased fuel price in the country by 40%
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/12/saudi-arabia-hikes-petrol-prices-40-pump-151228154350415.html
Oil rich Saudi Arabia, last year announced a record $98bn budget deficit due to 'rock-bottom global petroleum prices'
Like Nigeria, Saudi Arabia suffered a sharp drop in revenues as oil prices have fallen more than 60 percent since mid-2014 to below $40 a barrel.
To address the situation, the Gulf kingdom increased fuel price by 40%

Venezuela increased fuel price in February, 2016
President Nicolas Maduro in February increased fuel price to $0.60 (₦198) as Venezuela's economy was pushed to the brink by the collapse in the oil price, which accounts for about 95% of the country's export revenues.
He said the price over 50% rise was "a necessary measure, a necessary action to balance things, I take responsibility for it."
http://www.bbc.com/news/business-35600921?SThisFB


Fuel price increased in UAE in May, 2016
The oil rich, United Arab Emirates also increased pump price about 2 weeks ago.
Fuel is now sold at $0.45/L in UAE, which is about ₦148/L in Nigerian Naira, ₦3 more than the pump price in Nigeria today.
http://english.alarabiya.net/en/business/energy/2016/04/28/Fuel-prices-in-the-UAE-will-increase-in-May.html

Qatar increased fuel price by 30% in January, 2016
The oil rich country that last increased petrol prices in 2011, also increased pump price in January, 2016 to $0.36 (₦118) which is the 5th cheapest pump price in the world.
http://dohanews.co/qatar-increases-petrol-prices-from-midnight-tonight/


50% increase in pump price in Bahrain in January, 2016
As a result of the unprecedented drop in global oil prices, which has seen the price of oil per barrel decline by over 60%.
The government in Bahrain followed the steps of fellow Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC) member countries the country increased fuel price by 50% in January.
http://bna.bh/portal/en/news/705611

I could go on and on, to give more examples of oil rich countries like Nigeria that have increased pump price in 2016, Nigerians need to understand that this is not a Nigerian, Kachikwu, APC or PDP problem, this is a global problem we are dealing with affecting even the oil rich countries of the world.


We need to stop seeing the Federal government as insensitive, wicked, heartless, unfeeling, inconsiderate, thoughtless and hard-hearted for increasing the pump price to ₦145/L. We need to temporary sacrifice for the greater good, with the hope that as promised we will be better off in the long term.

To cushion the current challenges, the Federal Government must also sincerely provide social provisions for millions of poor Nigerians who will suffer from the fuel hike. Some of the oil rich countries listed above have increased fuel price this year, but due to the several welfare packages provided, the citizens can ease through this rough patch.

I am glad about the N500 billion social intervention programmes provided in the 2016 budget, which includes jobs, social safety allowance for the most vulnerable people, free schooling for students, soft loan to traders, investment in infrastructure etc. Hopefully Buhari's 'anti-corruption' centered government can channel the funds with 100% sincerity and accountability.



But why did the fuel price have to increase?

For that barber down the street who relies on petrol most times to power his small generator to keep his business running, it will be difficult for him to understand how the fuel price increase will benefit him in the long run. Infact, he will most likely rant everyday about the hardship the government is causing him.

I'm sure many have wondered why a country like Nigeria, blessed with oil suffer for it? But unfortunately, Crude oil price is an internationally traded commodity , the prices are not set by the countries that produce it. Neither do oil producing countries get a discount in the international market for producing this product.



While many think the current increase in fuel price is about removal of fuel subsidy, this notion is totally wrong because it was brought about by the non-availability of foreign exchange to import petroleum products. infact, there is no provision for subsidy in the 2016 budget according to the Vice President, Yemi Osinbajo.

Oil is selling at below 40 dollars and the currency (dollar) needed to purchase the refined petrol is no longer available, that is just simply the problem here.

Oil and gas make up more than 90 percent of exports in Nigeria, providing the critical source of Nigeria’s foreign exchange.

It’s that simple; a collapse in oil prices could lead to the same in Nigeria’s foreign exchange which is crucial to support consumption of imports. Foreign exchange rates also influence capital flows- investment funds that move into and out of a country. If oil prices continue to drop it would have an adverse effect on the country’s currency value, making it less attractive to foreign investors.

Since our local consumption of fuel is almost entirely imported. The NNPC exchanges crude from its joint venture share to provide about 50% of local fuel consumption. The remaining 50% is imported by major and independent marketers.

However marketers have drastically reduced their importation for several months due to a scarcity of FOREX, thus the need for them to source independent of CBN to be able to meet the nation’s demand arose.

Now any Nigerian entity is free to import the product, subject to existing quality specifications and other guidelines issued by Regulatory Agencies.

All oil marketers will be allowed to import PMS on the basis of FOREX procured from secondary sources.

It is expected that this new policy will lead to improved supply and competition and eventually drive down pump prices.

In addition, this will also lead to increased product availability and encourage investments in refineries and other parts of the downstream sector.


The difference between Jonathan's attempt to increase fuel price in 2012 and this? - And why the anti-₦145/L protests will fail
Former President Goodluck Jonathan ran into trouble after he removed fuel subsidy on New Year’s Day in 2012.



This took fuel price from ₦65 to ₦141 at filling stations. This led to massive protests by civil-rights groups, labour unions, and Nigerians generally. APC, the opposition party at that time, took political advantage of the situation by identifying with the suffering and criticizing the Jonathan administration for removing subsidy.

Four years later President Buhari officially removes fuel subsidy. Millions of Nigerians are angry. Nigerians are understandably accusing the present administration of cowardice, deception, and hypocrisy, but how true is this?

How much was oil price in 2011? Oil price was $113 per barrel. Today, oil price is just about $40 per barrel after going below $30 early this year.

And the exchange rate? Under Goodluck Jonathan’s leadership, the exchange rate was $1 to N162. Today, exchange rate is officially N199 to a dollar; N320-N360 in the parallel market.

And foreign reserves? Nigeria’s foreign reserves stood at $35billion in January 2012 and $29.61billion as at 28 May 2015, the eve of hand over to President Buhari. Today, foreign reserve is $27.1 billion, amid myriad of restrictive measures to stem the steady slide in the economy’s external sector.

Under the previous administration, Nigeria was enjoying an economic-growth rate of 6% averagely. Thanks to Foreign Direct Investment (FDI) riding on the back of a devalued Naira. President Jonathan also, largely, had the right economic mix. But corruption and terrorism were two of its greatest challenges. There were allegations of massive corruption, particularly what was reported to be a fuel-subsidy scam right under Goodluck Jonathan’s nose.

Rather than tackle these allegations by investigating and prosecuting those involved in the scam, President Jonathan decided to remove subsidy as the solution to the problem. The administration claimed removing fuel subsidy would free up funds for capital projects. But Nigerians had little or no trust in the administration. The administration was incompetent and corrupt. How can it be trusted to save for the future? This was a fundamental issue. So ‪#‎OccupyNigeria‬ shot down Nigeria’s economy in January 2012, not simply because Goodluck Jonathan increased fuel price but mainly because millions of Nigerians did not trust the administration with the money it claimed it would “save” for the future.



Today there are strong reasons to believe that if fuel-subsidy removal had been allowed in 2012, most of it would have ended up in private bank accounts.

Under the Buhari administration, though partly due to some of its own reactive and over-restrictive economic policies, the Nigerian economy is sick. There is scarcity of foreign exchange. Oil marketers are finding it extremely difficult to import petroleum products into the country. FDI has nose-dived. The low international-oil price meant there was no need for it.

Now that fuel prices have increased internationally, we expected the government to subsidize to alleviate people’s suffering. The Buhari administration says ‘No. We don’t have enough foreign exchange to do so.” Oil marketers are having difficulties opening letters of credit to import petroleum products. The result is that NNPC alone has had to supply over 90% of petroleum products since October 2015. This has not always been so.

NNPC used to supply 48% of petroleum products. Since NNPC does not have what it takes to supply so much, there will continue to be fuel scarcity. To tackle the scarcity problem, the government painfully decides to free up the oil-supply system by allowing the international-oil price determine fuel price locally without any fiscal intervention. Oil marketers are now accessing foreign exchange (through secondary sources) to import petroleum products into the country since ₦145 naira per litre provides some reasonable profit margin after supply costs.

Meanwhile, the government is taking measures to block leakages through zero budgeting, Single Treasury Account (TSA), and its Anti-Corruption Agenda. We are now talking about refineries, public and private-owned refineries that will eventually make fuel scarcity a thing of the past.

Nigerians asked Jonathan to work on old refineries and build new ones, given the resources available at the time, and first kill the regime of fuel importation. Subsidy would have died a natural death and the process of privatization would have been smoother. Today, some of the refineries are functional again, which were not in Jonathan’s days. Government-owned outlets sell refined fuel today, at a far cheaper rate. Not the private ones.

As labour go all out on Wednesday to attempt to shutdown Nigeria, my prediction is that they will not even achieve up to 5% of what the 2012 #OccupyNigeria protests achieved, the protest is bound to be a massive failure, because more Nigerians trust the sincerity of Buhari's government unlike his predecessor. And while the ₦145/L price remains a hard pill to swallow, it's still the 12th cheapest price in the world, facts only.

Source: http://www.nigerianeye.com/2016/05/at-145l-price-nigerians-buy-one-of.html

orobs93:
If na me eh I will go home from there...

Lol! Dis got me cracking..perhaps cos it reminded me of an experience i had which sorta bears an uncanny semblance to this. This was like 7yrs ago. I was in 300l and she was a year my junior. See, there was this law student i was tryina get with, and long story short i asked her out for lunch at a cool eatery sited at her faculty. This was the first date, and what did she do? I showed up, and she did too..with 5 friends, 5! I was livid, twas obvious she was just taking me for a joy-ride. So i played along, wore a charming smile, and set an alarm on my phone to ring in 5mins (used a music track so it could be more convincing). I asked them all to order, i specifically requested that they all be served malt drinks. I gulped one down myself! And voila, my alarm went off, i picked n faked like i was on a call (was like dude i'm at Flavors, oh you're outside now, wait i have d package here, i'm comin), i told d ladies to just give me a minute, excused maself nd you can guess d rest. Now that's not how i roll, but mehn she had it coming...just like op's story up here.

All you needed to do was type NO. It's my money, it's your car. Nofin personal

Hmmmmm. Cool ride. 700k and you have a deal

Manual tranny? Ouch! 700k and you have a deal

Samad805:
u can do better Dan dat sir

Lol..i appreciate that response. However, we both know there would be some components to fix, some to b replaced. I have factored these in. And you could still do me a solid favour by telling me the things that need attention in the car. I'm in akure and i'm into auto-diagnostics. Shd all be satisfactory and we deal, i will add u up so we can discuss specifics

Samad805:
I hav dis clean reg toyota camry aka big daddy up 4 sale with d following options:

Sound 4 cylinder engine

Automatic transmission

Sweet leather interior

Alloy rims and many more

Price is just 820k asking price

Location --- Ipaja

Contact me on 08143730791 or 09023107619 or bbm on 2B331CC7 4 more details

I could deal for 700k.

ss501:
Still available but for good price

I like your response, i would also say the same. So what would constitute a good price? Gimme a figure, and not 800k pls. Also pls if i may ask, can you take a pic of the speedometer area while the car is on. There are some things i'm looking out for. Thks

Cool car. I will deal for 650k. Fixes are a minor thing. I'm in akure.

I can deal at 720k..i'm in akure

Sounds plausible in theory, but not 100% practicable..cannot be cast on stone. Ask the average gentleman, and he'll also tell you he would rather wait and work towards building a befitting life before considering starting a family, but you forget that this same gentleman is under pressure from a woman somewhere who is also under pressure from a family somewhere to get married. Fact is most guys would rather wait, but in reality waiting isn't solely his call to make. Also you have to consider the environment and the prevailing economics, in Nigeria today even a hardworker with a fairly average income may only be able to achieve such a feat with years of prudence and savings. If i am 28 and it will take me about 3 yrs to save up to get a decent apartment and a decent car, would my girlfriend who is 27 be willing to wait for me till she's 30 to tie the knot? Those who have had sad tales on this subject matter would give you a unanimous answer. And what's more the greater part of the population may not even have it this good. And lets even say, you do manage to get these volatile securities, what happens when you lose them? Does that also mean the end of marriage? In reality, these things do not work that way. What is most important is two people meeting, and working and striving and planning towards being the best they can be, day in day out. That to me is the whole point. And by the way, i became even richer when i got married. The right person brings out the best in in you, jnspires you and vice versa

I am a scientist by all means, and yet i still maintain that despite the giant strides we have made in science, a great percentage of phenomena defy explanation. Till today despite that we have studied the blood and know virtually all that there is to know about it, science still cannot make blood.....and dats even citing something as comprehensible as blood. How can science explain how a simple pituitary gland controls the entire body without fail from birth till death. The pituitary gland is so amazing it know what your body needs, or even what you want to think or feel before hand..how can science explain how the most complex machine known as the brain came into being from series of simple cell divisions. Look at it critically, and you will find that from the very simple to the very complex, even the strides of science are still small fragments of a much much bigger picture. Science is great but it is limited. That's my take. As per my life's experiences, i would know better. I don't need to over-flog that. Burning of flesh? Lets be specific, we'r talkin animal flesh. None of all the numerous rites conducted during that foregone era are of any relevance in our time. A heartfelt prayer more than suffices. And if you look at it critically right from the start, GOD never got it wrong, Man did and always has. Tell a child not to touch a flame n you can bet he/she will.. n only learn from the burn that will follow. It's inherent. I wont bother going into the doctrines, commandments, rites or comparative analysis of Old vs. New testament ish..none of that. There's a saying that if you dont stand for something, you fall for anything. My stand? I go about my daily bizniz whilst recognizing that force that flung the sun to burn in space, that painted the night skies with stars, that did not cause my stomach to be disintegrated by the same acid it produces. And he doesnt need me, nor my dad, or mum, or any future kids i might have to be GOD. He just IS. I KNOW i need him, i choose to believe he is the source of all i am and have, and all that i will be and will have.
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Thanks you too[/i][/b]


quite correct and this is called "Curiosity" Understanding you do not know and striving to know..

That is what drives study and our ability to know..



I quite don't agree here about things that can NEVER be explained. . . You don't have an explanation to them doesn't mean it doesn't have an explanation.

Having a mindset "It can never be explained" is an enemy of striving to know these things because first you have established that "You cannot"

I for one understand there are things that have not been explained but i'd rather not filled the gap left by the ignorance with assumptions.

We don't know means you don't and so strive to know and not assume. . . Through systematic deductions and consistent study can we make sense of what is and not through unfounded assumptions that clouds our drive to strive to know.

I think personally that Reason is necessary rather than being just a sufficient factor...



There isn't much difference between you and i except that:

I know i have a life and i have a purpose of which goes in coincide with what i as an independent entity wants it to be.
And i need no external unfounded claims of a maker guiding any of my actions, i am responsible for my own actions.

I am responsible for my own standards and i alone enforce it of which i choose to be in conformity with pleasing mutual human interactions...



When asked of these experiences one would not help but quite notice it is mostly experiences people tend to infuse into the claim of personal Gods.
And this is no different from many things i laid out in this thread, it all lies in the perception of different individuals.




Of course the concepts of God differs in every ramification, am sure we have pantheistic and deistic God concepts....


[b]
You see when one look at this post one could not help you are a Christian trying to distance his own idea of God from what the basis of his beliefs say it is.

-Going from the bible this God gets jealous when one worships something else..
This jealousy is stark insecurity and blatant childishness and unlike you defence up there connotes a being yearning for worship.

- Going by the doctrines of the Christian and Islamic faith and most other theistic religions on this planet (of which my post was addressing) This God is busy going to judge who to burn and who not to based on the tilt of their belief.

Unlike your defence this God concepts still exhibits this forceful coercion of ensuring belief through fearful submissive tyranny of judgment based on a belief.

-Still from the bible this God loves the smell of burning flesh and so many other childish characteristics that betrays such constructs to be nothing more than mundane assertions of an extra-ordinary claim.

For the simple fact that you are trying to distance the concept of God you want to believe from the basic tenets of such concepts as derived from theistic fundamentals of which you lean on, it betrays a mind that find such ideas as absurd as i find it but tries to modify it to suite his own ideas. . . When one believes what he wants but yet with a basis from a fundamental source then obviously that is one that believes himself

I find the idea of personal Gods a noble construct but yet a childish one in the explanation of what is and the fables accompanying these claims to be eloquent but naive primitive and feeble assertions. [/b]


If there is such a being then he is making quite a mess of it.

you see living our lives for a greater good of humanity or aspiring to live ethical lives in conformity with societal goodness has absolutely nothing to do with living as if there is a thing like a powerful maker.


[b]

It is a good thing you have made your choice of believing in a personal God who is all powerful and all good creator of the universe but runs a bizarre show of baseless test run on unknowing feeble humans wriggling in human business like some flat out punny princess.

I on the other hand would rather rely on what i can learn and make out of the world as i know it, i'd rather rely on my reasons, study, systematic deductions and mutual pleasing societal actions than delude myself with the idea of personal Gods.

I lack such a thing as faith it takes to believe such ideas or the stories that accompanies it.

Our actions as humans can only bear a weight of right or wrong when it comes in contrast with its effects on others and things around us...

I did not choose to not believe in God, No as a matter of fact i am just being honest with myself to point out irrationalities or live with the assumptions of there is when it has shown not to be anymore than primitive gap filler and wishful thinking.. [/b][/quote]

You're an intelligent fella..I'll give you that. Not gonna write a long epistle, and this is not a rebuttal. But even science and ur intellect are inspired and driven by a force. Science has offered a lot of explanations for quite a number of things but i can tell you that the greater percentage of erstwhile intangible things, occurences in the world today can never be explained by science. To Reason is vital, and i employ it and that is why i cannot be deluded by religion. I believe i have a life and a purpose and a direction and a maker guiding me thru it all. Not a pastor, not a priest, not my family, none of that. In my brief journey in life so far i have hd experiences that leave me in no doubt at all that my GOD exists. Every man must chose his own path and what he will stand for, and i have chosen that, and i live that. GOD is not remotely any of the things you highlighted here. He is GOD! Everything and everywhere and he doesn't need praise or acknowledgement, or approval to function. I praise him not because he demands or bullies me to, but because he deserves it, he is worthy of it. My decision to praise or not to praise doesn't make him any more GOD or any less GOD. He doesn't arm-twist or threaten or wreak havoc to make a point. He is all-powerful, all knowing, all perfect. He has no enemy, he cant because he is all-powerful. Satan is not an enemy of GOD, he is enemy to the children of GOD. I would say GOD has given us all the choice and liberty to be whatever, do whatever and believe whatever. It neither diminishes not increases what he IS. The way i see it, as we all go thru life and it's experiences, we can live like we hv a powerful maker charting a course for us and knowing he is there all the way, OR we could rely on our wisdom, experiences and understanding in life's journey, OR we could live life being flat out evil and antagonistic to all that is good, in other words in satan's camp. In the end, WE make that choice. I know i have made mine.

johnydon22:
[b]Before anyone comes here to lament how this is an attack on their religion, let it be known here that the word "God" in this post is not referring to any one deity here, just as the word is used normally the word will be used here to refer to the theistic God concept.

This is a mind stroking topic that as always is a charge to independent reason and to apply reason in belief.

It is not a hidden thing that Religions and Belief strives on Faith. From a very young age we have be taught to believe it, have faith, do not question it because it is a sin.

I remember vividly in one of our catechism classes as a child a boy asked "Why did God create the tree that wasn't supposed to be eaten?"
The voice of our catechism teacher as she scolded the little boy for asking this question.

"Don't question God because it is a sin unless you want to go to hell" This has been a catchy line used to coerced young Children into submission, used to murder their curiosity, used to instill fear of their own reason and the result is everywhere.

Most adults in their religions now are afraid to cultivate healthy questions against their belief or employ the use of reason on their belief. The premise for theses questions are there but the fear of allowing this question cultivate holds them in check as a result of the indoctrination they were subjected to as children.

These implausible tales are meant to be believed and not questioned according to religions. you should believe them by "Faith" no matter how absurd it sounds as long as you hold unto it by "Faith" then it must be true.

Why should the young minds be discouraged from questions? why should the employment of healthy reason not be applied to religious beliefs and why should these belief rely on indoctrinations of a young mind for continuity.

Only a lie would fear questions, the truth do not fear scrutinization or review, the truth do not bank on the gullibility of a child's mind (who doesn't know what he find to be plausible or not yet) to ensure conformity.

If your parents waited for you to get up to this age before telling you for the first time the story of a man who was travelling and his donkey talked to him, there is no doubt that you would have laughed and told him uptight how such tales were mythological fabrications

But it had to be sung into you as a child, scolded into you that it is true and a child has no choice but to believe what you tell them unlike an adult who is able to weight and disagree.

So why should religions thrive on the backs of young gullible minds?

Why is this truth shying away from independent minds?

and why is this truth an enemy of questions.?

Take for instance during our catechism class, the young boy was very correct. I never thought about that particular question until i became a grown up, let us be truthful to ourselves.

According to the tale: God didn't want the fruit to be eaten, the fruit according to God is not good for humans then why put it there in the first place?

I have a poisoned biscuit for mouse bait, i know it is dangerous for children and not good for them. I am fully aware of this but instead of keeping the biscuit inside my pocket i brought it out to the children, kept it in front of them and say "Don't touch it" and when they eventually do i blame them for it?

Who exactly are we kidding?

This has been one of the numerous tales we have been told to swallow with faith, do not question it because the ways of God is not the ways of my man.

That my friend is what i call arrant nonsense.

Furthering the cause of "Faith" it buries a mind in inconsistency and keeps him bolted in his own delusion.
In Greek classical antiquity we are faced with the story of Perseus having a flying horse! We all are indifferent to this because we recognize it to be myth, because we all know flying horses are constructs of plain mythology.

But yet again Muhammed rode a flying horse to Jerusalem and some of us hold this to be true. .who exactly are we kidding?

You hold the former to be myth but to the later because you have "Faith" in it you hold it to be true, this betrays the dishonesty in the position of faith.

If the first is a myth because there is no flying horse then there is no way the second instance can be true. But this outright implausibility have been laid out to be believed with Faith.


Faith which is believing something whether it is true or not should not in the first place be a basis of conclusion.

You and i do not believe by FAITH that the sun is there, No, we lack faith that there is a sun rather we are SURE that there is a sun.

So why then do we need faith in a premise where we are not sure of?

why then are we encouraged to believe a story by faith and not because we are sure of it?

why then do we need to revere what we hold on to by faith more than the things we are sure of?


If scientific deductions worked like Faith, e.g " I cannot verify the radioactive decay of this compound but i feel it in my heart that it is real, i have faith that it is real?" Let us be truthful to ourselves, would any of us take this serious?

Or a doctor telling you he do not know what is wrong with you but he has faith it is just a headache, wouldn't you leave that hospital without looking back?

Then why do we bury our reason in the inconsistency of faith?

Our faith in anything do not make that thing true, it doesn't even make it probably true or near truth. Our faith in something only affirms we believe it whether it is true or not.

But do we honestly believe it is right to believe something by Faith and not evidence?

Why is it that for obvious things like the SUN nobody needs faith to believe it but when it comes to the subject of a deity or the outright myths that accompanies it as found in most religious books, one is encouraged to hold on to it by faith.

Is it better to hold on to it by faith (whether it is true or not) OR is it better to rely on the evidence of what is to reach a successive approximation.

If someone honestly think it is right to hold on to a postulation by Faith and not evidence then that person is open and vulnerable to any absurd dogma, coercion or whim.

If we think it is more acceptable to base our beliefs on what an ancient book said or what someone said we must believe, then it is obviously evidential that we will not have freedom of thought.

Our own faith will trap us in these inconsistencies and untruths because in that position we would be unable to abandon such ideas when evidence against them comes along because we had no regard for evidence in believing them in the first place.

This like numerous ways religions has bolted us in these implausibilities that can't and shouldn't be questioned.

We have been convinced to believe by Faith that a snake talked and told a woman to eat a fruit.

Or a man somewhere in the Arab world was revealed by some immaterial creature, a book directly from the creator of the universe. One look at this book betrays the plagiarism of older texts, but somehow people are meant to believe Muhammad got it from Allah anyway.

Or a virgin got pregnant without intercourse at the same time that virgin was able to deliver without caesarean operation. In this implausibilities our faith has acted like a fish net that keeps us locked into this belief.

It is not a new thing for religions to make unfounded claims like God lives outside the universe and God is perfect.

This unfounded claims that needs to be believed by Faith even though the obvious goes contrary to this.
Perfection cannot make imperfection, If God is perfect then the story of satan has been murdered. Only something imperfect can make something imperfect.

God is all powerful but he is still playing a bet of souls with his alleged creature Satan.

Something as powerful and omni as God cannot have an enemy but religions asserts a God who has an enemy, the worst part is this enemy is still a product of this God, this enemy was powerful enough to destroy or sabotage the plans of an all powerful God like in Eden, God sometimes teams up with this enemy to go mess with someone like they did to job.

Some humans even travel on a pilgrimage to go and stone the enemy of an all powerful God, can one begin to just imagine the outright nonsensical ideas religions has bathed the world with.

A hindu will always claim Brahma seats outside the universe and is all powerful, a muslim claims so for Allah and a christian for yahweh.

They mostly make this claim based on what a book written by primitive men said, even if there is such a thing there is no way you can know, since it is outside human perception how the hell then did you get to know even to the extent of knowing it's characters.

But come to think of it, you assert a God that is all powerful and outside space and time but yet this God;

Needs worship that he can burn you if you don't give it.
Needs praise
needs acknowledgement.
Needs love even if he/she has to threaten you into it
Is not interested if a crane falls or not but is interested if i masturbate
Likes the smell of burning flesh
demands bloody sacrifices
exhibits mundane traits like hatred, jealousy, anger, wrath, judgemental not to talk of an outstanding ego.
Needs humans to speak or kill for it.
is confined to the pages of a book to speak or claim existentiality.

This list can go on and on to see how the characteristics heaped on this Gods or God concept in totality nullifies or contradicts its other traits like being perfect.

A perfect being wouldn't posses any of the above traits mentioned above. . Even a human who possess all of the above, i wonder what we would make out of such human, but apparently it is ok if it's a deity.

Something perfect needs not worship or praise or acknowledgement because it doesn't add or remove from what it is but then why are we faced with one that is even threatening to burn you if you don't give these things and still dub it perfect. That is outrightly absurd.

God has disturbing characteristics like loving the smell of burnt flesh, exhibits punny emotions that are as a result of insecurity.
Hatred, jealousy, anger, wrath are mundane traits possessed by mundane beings as a result of their insecurity and instability of emotion. i wonder how an all powerful and perfect deity should operate within the confines of these childish and disturbing insecure human emotions.

Yet again this is how religions bolts a mind in inconsistency by the act of having faith without question.

Cultivating questions should be one of the remarkable traits of humans as a being with intellect. How come this curiosity is killed when it comes to applying it to religions?

How come Islam threatens torture and death if you blaspheme on Allah or his prophet.

The minds have been held far too long into absurdities by faith, it is time to let the nudging attempts of your reason to break free and let the questions cultivate.

To me personally i would rather base my confidence on reason, consistent logic, systematic deductions and evidence than base it on faith.

Faith to me is a dishonest position that involves emotionally clutching to a stoic conviction of an assertion that is postulated against reason which also needs to be defended against reason.

If just like the sun is not believed by faith, anything needs to be believed by faith( whether is is true or not) and not evidence then it is not worth believing in the first place.[/b]

feelamong:
1M * .10* 7/365 = 13,424

So you get around 13.4K Upfront payment

Wrong calculations there. That will be 1881NGN at the end of seven days for a 10% deal on 1 mil. Here's how...10% for a year is 100k, divide that by 12months n you get 8333 per month, divide that by 31days n you get 268.82 per day multiply that by 7 n voila!

I also think this is most likely just another stunt. He has shown to be the type of person that would resort to anything to get out of a a bad situation. This death story might just be a permanent fix

First of, that list n d information therein is so so untrue. Only the coys mentioned in d oil n gas sector actually merit a place on that list, altho the figures quoted for them are also very wrong. Exxon, total, chevy n for the love of God NLNG..how did NLNG not make d list?? My elder brother joined Exxonmobil in 2001 n even then his annual pay 7million naira. So flash forward 14 years n dat would give you some insight.

Second, i'm all for being entrepreneurial, but stating that you cant get rich on paid employment is just touche! You get rich not just by being an entrepreneur but by being focused and disciplined financially n otherwise, in the administration of the resources available to you. Basically, yu get rich if you possess the mindset to be rich n to harness your resources to that end, not just by being your own boss. How can you tell me someone who makes 13+ mil a year in Nigeria, n is disciplined and prudent enough to invest just a lil of that money in some ventures, own some assets, and afford some luxuries (houses, cars etc.) isn't rich??

Lastly, all this talk about just have a 2:1 or first class thingy...in Nigeria today that doesn't cut it really. I can say with some degree of boldness that just a 2:1 or 1:1 wont get you in any of these coys. That door closed years ago n now the first degree is kinda like WASC..get a master's and any other professional certifications cos what we have right now is a cockfight, the one with the bigger cock usu is the preferred choice. BTW go to any assessment centre n see how many that make d final shortlist tend to have foreign B.Ss n M.Sc or more. Bottomline, have a good first degree n also be prepared to have a lil extra if yu plan on making it into these juicy coys.

Damn!!!! Pls people, could we not derail/enundate this thread with all these email adds dropping everywhere, begging for past questions n such? Simply take the time and initiative to read thru d thread n get all d said past questions yourselves dat hv been graciously uploaded right on d thread...I mean it's right freaking dere on dis same thread!!!


Thank you!

please I would like to know if any trainee that got the dec 31 mail has been contacted. plsssssssss. thank you!

donmarshia: @ Oride, please do u work or know someone who works at NB. What's the probability that one who got 'Xpizzy's mail will be called. I got the mail and would really want to know the exact meaning of the Mail.

donmarshia please have u subsequently heard from nb? I'm a trainee as well and I got the dec 31 mail too.