Saying men shouldn't go after women is akin to saying no women should seek security and comfort from a man.
Granted, there's little truth in saying men should protect what they desire but it's not our role to protect such. We already have our own weighty burden to bear.
It is left for the woman to protect her value since it's the role nature has entrusted upon her,blame shifting would only result leaving a woman accountable for nothing just as it is in this modern times.
So any woman that finds herself disvirgined or disvalued should have herself to blame for her short comings.
EXACTLY
MEN SHOULD BE OVERT ABOUT THEIR SEXUAL MATING STRATEGY ESPECIALLY IN THIS MODERN TIMES
This is just a morale lifting sentence and nothing more than that. It is a sentence thrown around by Red Pill coaches to fool their gullible viewers on Youtube.
EVEN AFTER YOU HAVE FXXCED HER 1000 TIMES NEVER TAKE HER QUEST FOR CHASING YOU TOO SERIOUSLY. WHY?
BECAUSE, YOU ONLY EXHIBITED MASCULINITY, THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY REASON SHE TOOK HER CHASE FOR YOU TOO SERIOUSLY
IF YOU DID THE OPPOSITE OF MASCULINITY SHE WOULD NOT TAKE YOU SERIOUS IN HER LIFE OR YOU BECOME BELOW AVERAGE TO HER AND LESS IMPORTANT TO HER WHY WOULD YOU AS A MAN TAKE HER "CHASE" FOR YOU SERIOUSLY? ABSOLUTELY NO REASON AT ALL
IF YOU WERE MASCULINE, SHE SEES YOU AS HER RESPONSIBILITY (EVEN IF YOU NEED NOT HER RESOURCES)
IF YOU WERE FEMININE SHE WOULD HAVE YOU CHOSEN AS HER UTILITY
EXHIBITING YOUR MANLINESS WAS THE ONLY REASON WHY SHE CHASED, IF YOU DID THE OPPOSITE AS THE MAN YOU WOULD BE THE ONE TO CHASE HER WHILE SHE WILL ALWAYS AND ALWAYS BE THE ONE ON THE RUN
HER CHASING YOU WAS JUST MERE "EYE SERVICE" COS OF MASCULINITY DOMINATION
SHE WILL BE REAL AND NOT FAKE ANY "EYE SERVICE" IF YOU EXHIBIT TO HER WITH FEMININITY, THEN SHE EXITS FROM YOU NO MORE "EYE SERVICE" FOR YOU
IT IS JUST LIKE BEEN BROKE ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU BOOMED UP IN MONEY, PEOPLE WILL RALLY ROUND YOU EVEN PEOPLE YOU DONT KNOW WILL COME COS OF UR MONEY, IT IS NOT ABOUT LOVE FOR YOU BUT YOUR MONEY THAT IS THE SAME "EYE SERVICE" A WOMAN WILL WORSHIP YOU WITH IF YOU DOMINATE HER WITH YOUR MASCULINITY, THE MOMENT YOU EXIHIBIT FEMININITY TOWARS HER, SHE WILL RUN FASTER DISTANCING YOU
WHEN IT COMES TO SEX: FXXCK HER ON THE RUN (WHILE SPRINTING)
AFTER FXXCING HER ON THE RUN, DISPOSE HER LIKE THE SWEAT FROM YOUR FACE WHEN ON THE RUN AFTER THAT KEEP RUNNING AND KEEP RUNNING AND KEEP RUNNING
THE THIEF IS ALWAYS RUNNING THE MOB IS ALWAYS CHASING
YOUR GOALS ARE ALWAYS ON THE RUN
YOU NEED TO CHASE IT LIKE YOU WANT TO APPREHEND A THIEF
SOZINN: Slowly this argument is beginning to creep back into this thread again and I'm still here standing on the same point I was when it did before. Men will not take responsibility for whatever shit women do. Be it part or full. And it's finny how you all try to bring your fore fathers into this conversation, saying they did this and that. Bro, your fore fathers paid for sex and bleeped whores. Don't kid yourself for Bleep sake, how old is prostitution?
There have always been men who are willing to part ways with their cash for some pussy so don't tell me shit. Only fans, paid porn or whatever it is simps are doing now are all branches of the same tree. So, Bleep your fore fathers they invented cash for sex. Now that we have established that men who are willing to make women rich because of pussycat have always been there are there not women who made something of their lives and left their mark in this world before parting? Despite being offered such an easy way to riches. Who then will take responsibility for those women?
Don't come here and start spilling shit as though your young women don't have freedom to make their own choices and chose wrong. And fucking clowns are on this thread blaming men. Beats me.
OUR FOREFATHERS WERE USING "RAID GAME" AND PASSED THEIR GENES BY FIRE BY FORCE
SHEY GHENGIS KHAN DEY COLD APPROACH OR SHEY KING SOLOMON DEY SPIT GAME BACK THEN NI
BACK THEN FEMALES WERE TREATED LIKE OBJECTS, LIKE CUP, JUG, PLATE, KETTLE etc....
Some fools will be blaming men for women's stupidity.... AWON WEREY
Gynocentric or not I don't care the only way I'm getting married is if I would contest for elective positions in the future which I'm not as I love playing games in the shadows I'm better at pulling strings. My mother is worried already sef but I don't care I can't beat to spend my whole life with a person i would only get irritated or worse the person would end up feeling alone someday cause I like enjoying myself by myself. I don't see a woman in my plans bro no matter how many times I reconstruct the future. I have my urges and yes women are adorable no doubt but after a month poof Romeo must die. I want a sensible debate on this I am not omniknowest if I was so sure I won't say anything.
AS LONG AS YOU ARE COMFORTABLE WITH NOT PASSING ON UR GENES INTO THE NEXT GENERATION THEN NO PROBLEM
okrikaboi: Who can educate us solely on MGTOW? Or open a thread specifically for it. As usual everyone will have input I'm not well versed in it but I prefer MGTOW to all this nonsense! I rather compete for my bread with society taking women out of the picture. I do not care about marriage too and I can say I am a sigma male these are my formative years though so I'll really want to go MGTOW hardcore!
WHY WUD U BE MGTOW IN A TRADITIONAL SOCIETY LIKE NIGERIA
IF YOU ARE IN A WESTERN GYNOCENTRIC SOCIETY I WILL UNDERSTAND... BUT WHY CHOOSE TO BE MGTOW IN NIGERIA
‘YOU should select the most beautiful, young women in society, while rejecting Ugly and Promiscuous women.’
This will only work if you are extremely good looking or rich. You can’t be an ugly and poor man and think you can be selective when it comes to women. Abi how you check am?
HIGH VALUE ALPHA MALES HAVE ATTRACTIVE BEAUTIFUL YOUNG VIRGINS
AVERAGE AND LOW VALUED BETA MALES SHARE THE UGLY AND PROMISCUOUS FEMALES
Well, For me, Men are the still problem... 99% of what you listed and even the ones you did not mention can be avoided if men are ready to Unlearn and Re-learn... But instead, they'll broke shame you.
Tonnyray: I totally agree with you bro. My reference to the Taliban was more an attempt to contrast the outcomes (female behavior) than to tout them as an example of desirable positive masculinity. I personally have utmost disdain for both ends of the spectrum described. Forced obedience is as repulsive as disobedience in my world. @ the second boldened, you just summarized my exact take over the months as it pertains to true masculinity. No man who is yet to master his own self can exert meaningful mastery over a woman, a home or society. It's a crass exercise in futility.
Femininity is pretence
Innately human females are MASCULINE HOES
It is always funny whenever I see men compromising on their standards and expect women to do the same
OK, before I respond to your response, let's go back to the basis of this argument. I was of the solemn opinion that marrying a VIRGIN isn't what make one any alpha male as to the claim made on the post that I reacted upon.
and that VIRGINITY IS inconsequential to the union of a successful marriage of any alpha.
then back to your answer, firstly Alaafin of OYO is a monarch, and it is traditional that a monarch is entitled to as many wives, he is also a Muslim and Muslims as we all know practice polygamy more than anything, so don't equate him being a traditional monarch to any alpha mention to me one Yoruba monarch that has one wife, and if you can't mention to me one, does polygamy make every Yoruba monarch an alpha?
and who even said the newer slayqueen wives of the alaafin, who are all over Instagram and Snapchat before marriage were all virgins
Secondly the Sultan of Sokoto is also a TRADITIONAL ISLAMIC MONARCH who's entitled and solely in regards to his religion can have many wives.
in y'alls logic, even the Hausa barrowpusher who has many wives is also an ALPHA ffsbecause I can see that y'all logic of an alpha is by marrying many wives.
Thirdly, Myron Gaines doesn't have no known relationships, and isn't married, so shouldn't be included in where to draw excerpts in regards to marriage. (to which was my sole argument that VIRGINITY IS INCONSEQUENTIAL to the marriage of any alpha.)
Fourth and Fifth, Future even tho I consider him an alpha, isn't married yet, and haven't at anytime settled for lesser in regards to his relationship escapades, from ciara to Lori Harvey and to every other of his 6babymamas, none of them weren't in past relationships before meeting and having kids with future. None of his 6 babymamas or former relationships were disvirgined by him as they were all A list celebrities prior to meeting, Or do you think Lori Harvey, Ciara, Dess Dior, Jessica Smith, Brittni Mealy, Joie Chavis were all virgins before meeting future
Drake on the other hand hasn't any serious relationships and even his babymama Sophie Brussaux has been touring the world with her art before they met.was she also a virgin?
and lastly for the others that you did mention which were bible stories and no living being can actually account for the lives that they lived of not hearsay. And even to think about it logically, how did you think king Solomon could have vetted 700 virgins to marry
All these points I gave was to reiterate my stance that VIRGINITY IS INCONSEQUENTIAL TO THE UNION OF MARRIAGE, which has been the point of my argument ever since.
Because I can see that some so-called alphas here are simply writing for writing sake without reasoning.
Not saying that virginity is bad, but it all boils down to personal preference. Thats to say that If a virgin and a non-virgin female with similer wive features are placed to choose, you simply have a choice to choose with you prefer be you alpha or beta, and not saying that virgins are only for alpha males...
and one lunatic here said that only fools marry non virgins, meaning that over 85% of men who built and run this sophisticated world are fools...... you can imagine what a so-called alpha is preaching. It is an insult to men and we can't take it from a nobody who's simply behind his keypad with his small money data to write bullcrap.
NOTE: I'm all for being alpha and being a high value man, I am all for MGTOW, I all for keeping women's bullshit attitude in check at all times, all for men taking their place back in the society. But some opinions here are straight trash from the pit of delusion
Even Drake that you pedestalize as an alpha talked about some of the things that would make him potentially be in any relationship/marriage in the future, and he ain't mentioned no MF virginity.
Where are the statistics to prove your loud claim?
Share pictures of loser attractive men. Don't forget to share pictures of the successful attractive ones too.
@bold 2
Who says men are not judged by their looks? If you see a man dressed like a mad man, you will disregard him. If that same man dresses in designer suits and smells nice, you will respect him, If that same man is handsome and well-dressed, you will respect him and be weary of him around your female relatives.
Men are not judged by their looks, right? But top actors are always handsome, right?
@bold 3
Men aren't sexual objects? Your post is full of unproven points.
MALES ARE SUCCESS OBJECTS FEMALES ARE SEX OBJECTS
THE PRIMARY AGENCY OF FEMALES IS THEIR BEAUTY AND SEXUALITY
THE PRIMARY AGENCY OF MALES IS THEIR STATUS
FEMALES ARE BORN WITH THEIR VALUE MALES MUST CREATE THEIR OWN VALUE SHALOM!
Is every non virgin a hoe , why deviating from the very thing we are arguing about
I was talking and solely still talking about vetting a virgin not being a criteria for marriage in my books, and will 100% stand on it.
After many years of your marriage, you will have to talk about how your wife was being useful to you and surely not about her being a virgin
No one is really redpill than the other, nigga talking about white knight.
I've listened to KEVIN SAMUEL (one of the most respected alpha males I have come across), and I ain't heard him so much pedestalize and prioritize virginity as a alpha move or criteria for successful union of marriage.
If you take her virginity, you don't take am ooohhh, but you can't take her homely qualities, her nice meals, her comfort, her peace of mind, and what she brings to the table. And those are what really matter on the long run, and not her untouched punna.
The only big thing you will have to gain of her being a supposed virgin is... You being the first D to enter her coochie
KEVIN SAMUELS ISNT SOMEONE YOU SHOULD RESPECT AT ALL.... THAT NIGGA WANTS MEN TO COMPROMISE AND WIFE UP HOES AND SLUTS
KEVIN SAMUELS IS IN THE BUSINESS OF ENSURING FEMALES FULFILL THEIR SEXUAL MATING STRATEGY AT THE COST OF MALES
KEVIN SAMUELS WANTS HIGH VALUE MEN AND LOW VALUED BETA MALES TO WIFE UP HOES WHY BECAUSE IN THEIR SOCIETY THEY BELIEVE MEN AND WOMEN ARE EQUALS AND THE SAME, THEY BELIEVE A WOMAN'S PAST DOESN'T MATTER EVEN THOUGH THERE ARE STATS THAT SHOW OTHERWISE AND THEY CAN SEE HOW MARRIAGE RATES ARE DROPPING IN WESTERN SOCIETIES
THE THING IS VERY SIMPLE: VIRGINS ARE MEANT FOR KINGS AND GODS NON-VIRGINS AND HOES ARE MEANT FOR LOW VALUED BETA MALES
WHY WUD A HOE STILL BE DEMANDING VIRGINITY TREATMENT FROM MALES??
MALES CAN'T HAVE STANDARD AND WHITE KNIGHTS LIKE YOURSELF ARE THE PROBLEM
Nothing is guaranteed, meaning your so-called virgin is still likely to out of curiosity go behind your back to get some D so long as she still watch movies and has communications outside.
Thereby ruthlessly fucking all your macho up, since you have ultimately laid emphasis on her kitten.
And like I said, most meaningful and marriageable girls with 80% of the marriage prospectus were once virgins, deceived by either a thoughtful or non thoughtful niggas who wasn't ready for marriage.
So does that wipe off the 80% qualities of her being a good woman to wive up
Yes virginity could be one of a requirement for marriage, but should never be in the top 5 of its requirements.
If marrying a non virgin knowingly or unknowingly makes one a fool, then over 80% of men are fools, to which I can't and any sensible person would never agree.
VIRGINITY SHOULD BE AT THE TOP OF YOUR LIST WEN IT COMES TO MARRIAGE REQUIREMENTS ESPECIALLY IF YOU ARE A HIGH VALUE MAN WHO DISCIPLINED HIS WAY TO GET THAT HIGH VALUE STATUS
NON-VIRGINS AND HOES ARE MEANT FOR LOW VALUED BETA MALES PERIODT!
If you plan on becoming poor average and miserable then settle for NONVIRGINS and HOES
GETTING MARRIED TO A VIRGIN AND NOT KEEPING HER ON HER TOES, ESTABLISHING BOUNDARIES ETC IS VERY FOOLISH
AS A MAN YOU ARE THE PRIZE SO ITS EITHER SHE COMPLYS TO UR RULES OR SHE'S KICKED TO THE CURB
AND IF SHE CHEATS, BETRAYS OR DOESN'T COMPLY TO UR BOUNDARIES AND STANDARDS THEN YOU KICK HER TO THE STREETS, VIRGIN OR NOT!
VIRGINITY DOESN'T GUARANTEE SHIT BUT IT IS ONE HELL OF A GOOD FOUNDATION TO BUILD A SUCCESSFUL MARRIAGE ON
Romance / Re: Reality Every Guy Need To Know ( STRICTLY REDPILL) ... by DEMZEE(m): 5:54pm On May 19, 2022 
