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@ toba, where in my post did u see bribe??

to help u out, i put the meaning of riba in bracket. the least u cld av done is google it. But rather, u displayed ur ignorance as usual.

igbo2011:
Gaddafi did more for his people than any other African leader today. Everyone in his country has a house, free healthcare, free education (even outside of Libya) and he rose the life expectancy of people by 30 years during his rule. He tried to start the African Monetary Fund which is $70 billion of non interest loans. This would be used to help fund infrastructure projects in Africa. Instead of the parasite of an organization called the IMF. He helped fund a satellite that would be used by Africans. Europeans lost $500 million a year because of this. Gaddafi was a man of his people. He was a pan-Africanist like Kwame Nkruhmah. He put his resources to his people. People recieved money from the oil wealth in Libya.

While our rulers(not leaders) steal all the money put them into foreign accounts to benefit foreigner's ecconomy. How can money cycle within an economy if there are no money in banks? Our rulers don't fix roads, education, or hospitals so people die from things that can be fixed.

Gaddafi died trying while our leaders are looting all of our wealth. Once we have no more oil (unless economy diversifies) we will have no money.

Don't believe in the western media. They try to say bad things about people who tryto help their people. Like Castro, Chavez and Mugabe. If the british choose to fund boko haram or MEND with billions then Nigeria can be just like this.

Red this: .conelle.net/apps/blog/show/7869956-war-on-libya-is-war-on-entire-africa-

Watch this: outube.com/watch?v=CxoLDmskA1A&feature=related

hmmn! am sad. its either because of that human instinct, d one u feel when someone else dies or just another one that says, the way it happened just wasnt right. or a combination of both. may his soul rest in peace.

blah blah blahhhhhhhhh

dr's a need however to let u know somfn.

The interest conventional banks charge includes wat we call in Islam riba(usury). Usury is haram in Islam and that is what i am running from when I tell u I hate to c what d banks send to me.

The interest an Islamic bank would send on the other hand(if at all) wouldnt have this. it is going to be from halal businesses.No alcohol, no pork business.-anoda advantage.

and when a poor person like me has an idea, i need finances for, I'd rather have someone take a percentage in the risk(we'll be sharing both the profit and the loss) according to a sharing formula we would av agreed on than to be asked for some collateral i didnt av in d 1st place. 

and if am rich enough to av something i could av used as a collateral and my business fails, i wont be losing entirely cos some1 is sharing in d loss

If all d above are d reason I prefer an Islamic bank, and u dont reason along wv me. .dr are still several options for u. . .I rest my case!!!!!!!!!!!

are u sure ur symptoms are not psychological ?? ds complaints are too early for HIV. u cld b avn other STIs . So, go c ur doctor now. Never wait until it is too late.

igbe yomi

igbe ayo

i cldnt stop laffn. . .

igbe oran

igbe dowo

gbogbo igbe

igbe di meje

igbe lile

igbe soro(shoro)

the following would give u an idea of what happens during hajj. May Allah make it easy for those in it right now. And for those of us who are yet to go, May Allah make it happen soon. (Amin)


A poem


By Him whose House the loving pilgrims visit,
Responding with ihram at the appointed limit,
Uncovering their heads in total humility
Before One to Whom faces bow in servility.
They exclaim in the valleys, "We have responded to You -
All Praise is Yours, and Kingdom too!"
He invited and they answered, with love and pleasure;
When they called upon Him, nearer came the Divine treasure.
You see them on their mounts, hair dusty and dishevelled,
Yet never more content, never happier have they felt;
Leaving homelands and families due to holy yearning,
Unmoved are they by temptations of returning.
Through plains and valleys, from near and far,
Walking and riding, in submission to Allah.

At the Ka’bah

When they see His House - that magnificent sight
For which the hearts of all creatures are set alight -
It seems they’ve never felt tired before,
For their discomfort and hardship is no more.
Now the eye of the Lover drowns in its streams,
It sees through its tears the goal of its dreams;
Now for Allah, how many tears are issued,
Each one being followed by a multitude?
When the eye perceives the House, its darkness clears,
And from the sorrowful heart, pain disappears;
Vision cannot encompass this beautiful sight:
Each glance returns with greater delight!
No wonder at this, for when the Merciful preferred
The House for Himself, it became most honoured.
He clothed it in Majesty, a magnificent garment;
Embroidered it with Beauty, a wonderful ornament!
The hearts all love the House therefore,
Awed and humbled, in respect and honour.

‘Arafat

Now to ‘Arafat, hoping for Mercy and Forgiveness
From the One overflowing with Generosity and Kindness;
Now for Allah is that Magnificent Standing
Like, though lesser than, the Day of Reckoning.
The Irresistible draws near, His Majesty manifest,
Boasting to His angels, for He is the Mightiest,
"My slaves have come to Me so lovingly,
I’ll be Generous and Merciful, willingly.
I have forgiven their sins, – to this you are witness –
Fulfilled their hopes, and showered them with goodness."
So joyous news! O people of that standing,
When sins are forgiven and Mercy is spreading;
How many slaves are set completely free?
Whilst others seek a cure, and heal will He.
Now Satan is never known to lose such face:
He’s blameworthy, rejected, in utter disgrace.
For he sees a matter that enrage him must:
He flees, slaps his face and covers it in dust!
Such Forgiveness he never did see
As granted by the Lord, and such Mercy!
He built his edifice from every temptation available
Till he thought it was complete, unassailable;
Then Allah struck his building at its very foundation,
So it fell upon him, tumbling in devastation;
What worth has his structure, this evil ploy,
That he does build, and the Lord does destroy?

Muzdalifah & Mina

Now to Muzdalifah, to spend the night
In the Sacred Area, then Prayer at first light;
Now on to the Great Pillar, which they need
To stone at the time of the Prayer of ‘Id;
Now to their tents for the sacrifice prepared,
Reviving the tradition of a Father revered.
If sacrificing themselves were Allah’s demand,
They would respond, submitting to the command;
Just as they’d expose their necks in Jihad
To Allah’s enemies, till these stream with blood;
They discipline themselves, presenting the head for a shave:
Bringing humility and happiness to the obedient slave.

The Tawaf of Ifadah/Ziyarah

So when they’ve removed those natural growths,
Completed their rites, and fulfilled their oaths,
He invites them again to visit His House:
What honour and welcome this visit allows!
By Allah, they visit it in so much splendour,
Receiving their rewards and plenty of honour;
There Allah bestows Grace, Favour and Kindness,
Showing Generosity, Mercy and Forgiveness.

Mina

Then they return to Mina, each to his tent,
Every minute wish is granted, and they are content;
They stay there a day, then another, then a third,
They’re allowed to depart early, but to stay is preferred;
They stone the pillars daily after the sun’s decline,
With a slogan of Takbir in the presence of the Divine!
If only you could see their standing there:
Palms outstretched, hoping for Mercy’s share!
"O Lord! O Lord! Knowing as You do
That we hope for no-one, only You!
Then grant our wish, O You All-Knowing,
We pray for Your Mercy overflowing."

The Farewell Tawaf

When they’ve achieved at Mina all their gains,
Once more they fill the valleys and plains:
To the Ka’bah, the Sacred House, by the end of the day,
To circle it seven times, and then to Pray.
When departure nears and they are certain
That the bond of proximity is about to loosen,
There’s only a last stand for a final farewell:
Now for Allah are the eyes that swell,
And for Allah are the heavy hearts that turn
Into cauldrons of desire where fire does burn;
And the passionate sighs whose heat so vigorous
Nearly melts the Lover, ecstatic, rapturous!
Now you see those bewildered, perplexed in the throng,
Whilst others chant their sorrowful song:
"I depart, but there remains for You my yearning,
My fire of grief is raging and burning;
I bid farewell, but longing pulls my reins -
My heart is encamped in Your eternal plains!"
No blame today for saying what you feel:
No blame for expressing what you used to conceal!

http://www.islam21c.com/islamic-thought/3560-the-hajj-the-journey

toba:
as far as im concerned, im still the closest person to know on NL and would be able to access u well. u are promising and have a bright future but u are still a kid to me cos of some things that are yet to evolve in you

eh! faaabu(fable). .lol. U'r right as far as u'r concerned. But no, u ar not d closest to me. access me well? dats if I want u to. or did u mean assess?

how can u keep calln m a kid wen my mates are carrying baby bumps all over Nigeria. Mr. toba, seriously, stop that.

toba:
smh u are playing the victim card u know what u did wrong and still call me a friend I dont have a friend reason being that they are not indeed just like u are.

Offering u my friendship is a honor .I knew u wld decline d offer, the very good reason I told u 2 always remember. remembering might be just wat u'll need some day. now, try to pretend am not the one saying d following line-

how can anyone say they av no friend. u need to think of avn one seriously(not talkn of me o ).u may av things to share- good or bad. without one, how do u do dat?? sometimes telln odas about my matter even makes m undastand it beta. i wonder wat ur social life is like ?

being in the land for 2 out of 12 months is a testimony that u may be clueless about what goes on here.

clueless?? y do u thnk am on nairaland?? I said in my second post that I believe such happens, i just avnt known such girls.

Im telling u that the generalization could also be based on fact cos most people are not too religious and dogmatic as of old. your truly for instance though a christian but im not dogmatic and regimented in my thinking

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and wat happens wen ppl decide to not be of old is for girls to turn their bodies into sex tools, the means to an end, forgettn they av an almost equal chance of being successful as men no one needs a religion to know right vs wrong or old skl practice vs new skl. this boils down to morality.

stop deceiving your self woman(sorry young lady) there are some prayers God may never answer till the end of the world

the reason 4 d InshaAllah. and not to worry, am a WOman 

I dont remember u telling me when u became a demi god. God has the final say

I believe dat too. I believe u ar pursuing it religiously so u'll come here later on to say, Alhaji sweetnecta nd co., I did it! but that will not happen by the will of Allah.

toba:
Only God knows why u must mention my name in your posts. Do u have a crush on me? if yes say it now and lets start the courtship in time

ah ah! toba, no matter wat u did or are doing, we ar still friends!- always rememba dat!

well the emphasised words says it all. U havent met them cos they are not one muslim females that are ready and willing to marry people like us and im not kidding. U are far away from the land and dont know what gose on in reality. right here on the forum, some of your fellow muslims openly confessed there willingness to marry anyone that believes in God

u'r wrong. I believe am very close to d land. am always in d land 4 at least two months every yr. I know definitely these things happen but y shld they always generalise ??

those willing to marry them will change their minds too, like d oda sister did InshaAllah. am so proud of her!

ur aim for wanting a Muslim is clear and u aint gonna get it.

toba:
smh. U better go to bed, its too early for kids to talk

stop d kid talk jor. some people wld start thnkn am truly one.

There are only two people in this world. children and adults and I sure is an adult!

Araboy:
Sincerely I have no doubt Toba needs a wife he needs a marriage he needs a Muslimah but I am not sure if any 

Practicing Muslimah here will be willing to marry outside her religion unless she is ignorant or careless of 



The teaching of Islam since  Marriage in Islam is a big deal and should not be taken lightly

Marriage in Islam is considered "Nisfu Ed Din " which means half of the faith and the four Sunni schools of thought

agreed that a Muslimah marriage from a  non Muslim is illegal therefore every intimate relation between them is

considered "Zina" (fornication ) less talk of the status of their kids who are considered bastards according to Islam

Toba I hope your obsession with Muslim ladies and your desire to marry one is not guided by other intentions such as

converting them or taking your marriage from them as convenience or commodity without clear intention to grow old 

with them to mold with them and to build a strong Muslim family with them 

I am sure with your perseverance and tenacity you might get what  you want from some" Liberal " Yoruba Muslimah

from the South west or even from a Hausa Fulani as long as you have a deep pocket

From what my Nigerian Muslimah friend told me Nigerian girls irrespective of their religion will not turn down 


any rich man regardless of his  look or Religion 

u started well and at some point, I felt like,oh! Araboy is now getting it right but your last statement?? gosh! these are things discussed on d romance section. I av always wondered who these Nigerian girls they talk of are because I havent met one or probably never knew they are one.
your statement is plain Ridiculous.very shameful.

u seem to enjoy, d good words dat come from toba when u support his claim. I hope u remember what the prophet says of the kind of person you are when a nonbeliever sees you as good, likes ur kind of Muslim and all ??

toba:
smh. its the young, bright and promising muslims that i feel sorry for, cos of the way they ve been blind folded by this archaic kinda thinking. The only female muslim nlder that i truly like the most on the forum has also been brainshwashed by this delusion. pathetic.

I feel so sorry for pple like sweetnecta

oh! u just made my weekend!!!

All d talk on ds forum isnt for nothing i know. People's perspectives change. We learn!

toba:
naaa. after reading this, i just realised that alot of pple are ignorant of what the non interest banking entails. I will pardon the op and take this as u not genuinely knowing what it entails cos u have admitted wanting to learn, however u have shot your self cos u ignorantly lifted a topic+pix from the internet which u have limited idea about. Next time, i wouldn't be nice/mild in my response to BS.

What do u know of the picture. U say I lifted it ignorantly?? how did u come about that interpretation. It is reasons like ds that our society is going down d drains. No one shows their true color for fear of being castigated. do u know the specifics? the fact that I do not know the specifics doesnt make me ignorant of the broad picture. I did economics in sec schl for goodness sake! and I was a good student(mashaAllah). If only u Would reason beyond I am a xtian ,she is a Muslim?

I dont need u to be nice. Be urself.

I'm a valuer and mostly for mortgages. What valuers return from a collateralized property will save a basis for a bank(commercial) to grant facilities(loan) to any developer/business man. The money the bank grants will be payable over a period of time at a certain % interest rate per annum. i.e u would pay back the principal and interest accrued on the principal. Now Islamic banking would allow u have access to the facilities/loan but instead of u paying interest as obtainable in commercial banks, its the profit from the proceed that would be shared between u and the Islamic bank after paying the principal. That's why its called non interest banking. Will elaborate tomorrow

yes! and that is a good thing!! for some1 who is a starter, who never had a building to make a collateral, is he supposed to suffer forever??

If he has an idea to develop, doesnt he deserve the finances to do so.

What Islamic banking does is give Social justice. the conventional banks favor capitalism- the reason the rich gets richer and the poor poorer.

and again, it is not compulsory u av businesses wv such banks. It only gives pple who want it a choice.

there are many co-operative societies in Nigeria using the Islamic principles and they are doing well!

@ davidylan,
After reading many of my posts on this forum, u call me dumb! Are you sure you are not

first, i'll never call u dumb nor will I call u a f.ool. such words dont come from my mouth and thank God, No one exerts that kinda control over me by flaring me up. So, i talk using my brains rather than out of emotions. But like I said on another thread. Your morality is questionable.[size=25pt] if the only way you can speak with someone whose face you cant see is this, I wonder what morals you have to pass on to your children[/size]

this reads like something a complete dunce would write.

1. you say that you are unhappy because the bank adds interest to the money you save . . . hmm why? Do you understand how a bank works at all? Banks invest your money in business then give you a small percentage of the profits as interest to you. Besides a redundant and completely illogical religious decree . . . what's the problem with that? How is that different from investing on the stock exchange for example as millions of muslims do?

In another breath you say that your reason for putting money in the bank is to "save for the future". Dumb
In an islamic banking system you would be better off putting that money under your mattress . . . by the time you get to the "future", all the money you think you have saved would have been rendered worthless by inflation unless you put that money in something like gold, treasury bills or stocks . . . which of course is haram to you!

what happens to pple like u is, they call odas all kinds of names just to feel good about themselves. You think Islamic banking is only concerned about interest? Islamic banks dont spend ur money on any business termed haram. No alcohol nor pork business, making ur money pure-that reason alone makes me want it. can i say that of a conventional bank?

U are such an hypocrite. Are u saying that the interest conventional banks give are only from businesses, how about the pple they loan to, whom they charge interests, dont these interests fall under the businesses?

which future do u think am talking about? see pessin wey think som1 else is dumb. future to u must mean 5o yrs from now?? ur secondary skl teachers nor try at all. did u av an ENglish comprehension ?

2. You say you have no idea how economics works . . . then why advocate a banking system whose positive or negative influence on the economy you cannot predict? Should ifa priests just argue for their own banking system just because they have political muscle?

2.English comprehension the problem again! i told u of d 'specifics'. I am not the type who claims to know it all. I dont even have to. I dont need to assuage by claiming wat am not, the successes I av made of my life can speak for themselves. So when I say I ddnt know of the "specifics, i ddnt mean I know nada. I was only saying, no point pointing them all out. If u claim to know it, share it. Unfortunately, ds is How best u cld?? the man who knows-



3. Islamic bank doesnt affect me, i dont live in nigeria where ridiculous policies are the order of the day. Even your sheiks in the middle east have serious investments in Europe's banking system . . . while they sell islamic banking to empty heads like you. A sheik owns Manchester City . . . i suppose you believe he isnt collecting interest on that investment right?
[quote][/quote]u dont live in Nigeria and u wld never live dr? and u dont care about your family members who do. that question is deliberate. ur ansa failed u once again.

I still wonder how an adult thinks like u do. Does every thing a christian does av anything to do with you?? u are such a bigot and u'll probably never change. I would av expected that you had learnt enough to be wise enough to know that every1 wld b questioned for their deeds. Individuality in d grave and on the day of judgement.

[quote author=tpia@ link=topic=783295.msg9369041#msg9369041 date=1318967436]Deols

the picture does not help your case in any way.

Dont know how to put it to you- and there seems to be something weird about the way you view pictures.

Will be watching.[/quote]wy dont u tell ur view of d pix. .it is still nairaland we are and d freedom of expression is still so much the in-thing.

are u just starting to watch ?? too bad!

[quote author=tpia@ link=topic=783295.msg9369888#msg9369888 date=1318979425] [/quote]Tpia@,
Dear Sir/madame,
u av bn falling my hand. fact is, I just had ds respect for u somehow somehow. are u telling me u cldnt sense more to ds post.??

am watching u too. I know u relate differently on ds forum nd am just a click away into finding u out for real!

are u a man or a madame?? *curiosity

hey, my brother, me sef av bn wondering o.

d high BP is to their detriment though. I thrive in controversies. I just cant understand that they still do not understand me here.

fortunately, I am up to the task!- they aint gonna b my match, their trio put together made 1 wld find me a hard nut to crack. By ALLah's grace

Am Hopeful.

wa aqeemu-s-Salaata wa attu-z-Zakaata wa ateeu-r-asuula la'allakum turhamun(24:56)

And perform as salaat and give Zakaat and obey the messenger that you may receive mercy.

or is it ur job that is keeping you away from salaat ??

"Qul inna salaati wa nusuki wa mahyaaya wa mamaati lillahi rabbil 'alamin." (6:162)

(Say: Truly, my prayer and my service of sacrifice, my life and my death, are (all) for Allah, the Cherisher of the Worlds.)

"Sami 'allah hu liman hamida."

"Verily Allah listens to one who praises him.

how uncomfortable can it get?

wow!!!!!!!

ati kekere ni musulumi tii ko omo e lesin (a Muslim teaches his child religion from childhood)

hmmn!!!!!

more

are u too weak to pray? or u'r too comfy?? or too shy??

LET THESE PEOPLE INSPIRE YOU!!!!!!!!!

namfav:
not really new bro, i just dont post out here too often because you can post a topic here and it can go for months without being answered, people can ignore things here, it gets frustrating to me

u av a point there. But, dont u thnk dat if evry1 does as u do, leavn because dey ddnt get any1 to answer dr post, dr wont b any1 here?

little drops of water make a mighty ocean. ur contribution can go a long way. Even if no one replies, many would av gained from it.

After the presentation, my teacher beamed at me with smiles!!!!!!! She said 'thank you----( my name), thank you. and then my head started to swell. I felt so good!!!!! 

I was sure she enjoyed my talk like the white man enjoys his cigar, an arab man his tea, and a yoruba man his amala.

toba:
smh, the only kid in the thread insinuating others to be in her league. u are not representing the 'religion of peace' well at all

i understand u

davidylan:
When are you going to grow up? Isnt this usual islamic recourse to obfuscation, ad hominems and childish truancy getting old?

do u mind telling me ur age so i may know how to talk with u next time??

obfuscation? u mean u dont undastand? ah! adjectives.

cld u leave d rest till 2mao. .i av some pressing needs to attend to nd like i said, i'll b up to d task IA

note though *i always take responsibility 4 my axns, and since u av failed to read it as i said it, nd to understand my oda explanations, I know what u want - A deliberate attempt at doing all u can in painting me black and who says I care. I do not run away from challenges. Am bold enoff, and I'll be bak InshaAllah.