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 Islam › Re: Muslim Women & Polygamy: Would You Tolerate A 2nd Wife? by deols(f): 11:26am On Nov 01, 2011 |
coogaru c. every1 can claim cool until they start to take sides. Thiefofhearts started it all But u didnt c her as starting a war. |
| Islam › Re: Muslim Women & Polygamy: Would You Tolerate A 2nd Wife? by deols(f): 11:19am On Nov 01, 2011 |
ThiefOfHearts (f)I wonder what you represent. the aggrieved women? Your reply isnt a smart one at all. Who is controlling who. You claim civilised, modern woman but the only thing u cld think of other women is as controlled by random men. |
| Islam › Re: 9 Stupid Questions You Hear When You Wear Hijab by deols(op): 11:14am On Nov 01, 2011 |
if you wear hijab are you supposed to be on nl with all those sexuality section posts and stuff.Imagine that a muslim man said this, u would b all over d place claiming they keep they dont want freedom for their women. Is it possible for a muslim woman to visit certain sections and not the others?? yes. In fact, I usually get 2 d romance secion only after the posts get to d front page. Abi u want to say romance is unIslamic?? feel free to ask questions. wont it corrupt your mind, like deols checking out okija's profile picture- what if he'd posted something else there wey go make your body go wen.My main purpose wasnt to check his pics. i wanted to c wat he's been up to. The first sight is not a sin abi u didnt know? I might av to start closing my eyes on d street then if am not allowed to c things at all  besides, I've heard a few unsalacious stories of ladies in hijab and the internet.wat av u heard? dont forget av bn wondering for so long ow come u always know things about Muslims. I believe it is a way of making points. They are hypothesis u wish are true. But without a research, we cant accept them, u know very risky, imo.are u scared of me? u want me to stop coming on NL? U are trying to put me at the lowest cadre of the society. just so you dont get corrupted and stuff like that, leading to extra purification sessions, etc.am as bad as I can get. thanks for d advice. they are not for me though. do u av female children? i'm too old to be tripped by that type of thing, so i think I'm safe.how old are you. I hear old women now take estrogen pills. |
| Islam › Re: Muslim Women & Polygamy: Would You Tolerate A 2nd Wife? by deols(f): 11:00am On Nov 01, 2011 |
Av bn gone for too long sha! What did I notice? some very ignorant folks again. All they want to say is, you are wrong and we are right. But their problem with the whole thing I dont understand. Muslim women say they dont mind it. How is it your problem. the comment below says a lot tunnytox: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: How The Quran Led Me To Christianity !New video added with damning evidence ! by deols(f): 9:37pm On Oct 31, 2011 |
jayriginal:frosbel, go copy and paste as usual |
| Islam › Re: Muslim Singles, Let Us Have A Talk by deols(op): 9:27pm On Oct 31, 2011 |
Lol!!!!! |
| Christianity Etc › Re: How The Quran Led Me To Christianity !New video added with damning evidence ! by deols(f): 9:15pm On Oct 31, 2011 |
u may also be interested in 'how the bible led me to Islam' |
| Fashion › Re: Anyone For Glasses? by deols(f): 9:00pm On Oct 31, 2011 |
Dis Guy:I agree |
| Islam › Re: Muslim Women & Polygamy: Would You Tolerate A 2nd Wife? by deols(f): 8:32pm On Oct 31, 2011 |
coogar:No. am not saying it in dat context. you say u read the QUr'an?? make sure u get tafsir ibn kathir too for without that, u wld be lying to urself. U cant understand it without its interpretations. Who is sister Idayat ?? |
| Fashion › Re: Anyone For Glasses? by deols(f): 8:29pm On Oct 31, 2011 |
dollypi: aieromon:are u guys aware of the side effects of laser surgeries??. It can be very bad |
| Fashion › Re: Anyone For Glasses? by deols(f): 8:20pm On Oct 31, 2011 |
welcome to d club! av bn using mine for over 11 yrs. |
| Islam › Re: Muslim Women & Polygamy: Would You Tolerate A 2nd Wife? by deols(f): 8:19pm On Oct 31, 2011 |
well, i take the words of the QUr'an and the hadith the way they are. I will find out more InshaAllah. but your quotation says lustfully and my talk is about knowing what happens. I just dont believe yet that you are human if you never had a thought of what that is. some things are just innate like children asking funny questions u cant answer - and dat is not a sin until otherwise proven - every1 wld av sinned then. |
| Islam › Re: Why Are Muslims Generally Violent? by deols(f): 8:06pm On Oct 31, 2011 |
op is misguided. I used to think the guy is a Muslim. Hw can u conclude, just like dat dat Muslims are generally violent ?? How many Muslims do you know?? |
| Islam › Re: Muslim Women & Polygamy: Would You Tolerate A 2nd Wife? by deols(f): 7:47pm On Oct 31, 2011 |
you can fornicate with your mind. it's not until you come in physical contact with a man before you fornicate!it is very easy for u to think ds way. It must be difficult thinking of pple living their lives in other ways than you do. I asked u to tell me if your explanation is according to d bible or not but u avnt. learn this. Allah says of zina- Do not even go near ‘zina’ (fornication or adultery) for it is a very indecent thing and a very evil way! and the prophet said -‘The eye commits ‘zina’, and the palm of the hand, the foot, the body, the tongue and private part of the body confirm it or deny it.’ from the above explanation, nothing is mentioned of the mind- except if u can quote one that am unaware of. I want to believe the mention of tu face is only metaphorical. It is natural for us to internalise certain things. I know a lot about s3x more than u can think I do(dat is not fornication as far as I am concerned). In fact, about three yrs ago, I wrote an exam(during ramadan for that matter) in which i found myself explaining that process. Are u saying I sinned by so doing? if that is fornication, then the bible wldnt av called it a sin. *note, I naturally wld av ignored this but some1 might learn something. Am in fact saying it cos I know wat pple say when virgin talks come up on the romance section. I shld write somfn bout it soon, awaiting criticisms. maybe not entirely but part of it is about popular opinion.your reluctance is your loss. and btw, u should be, if wat u want to sell is wat am thnkn. for goodness sake! cldnt u b willing to talk about something else? absolutely - wearing the hijab earns you a reward but it also marks you out as a serious-minded muslim woman. whether you like it or not, your hijab will not attract many men who might want to get friendly in comparison to other muslim women who don't wear hijabs.Again, their loss. i understand this clearly. nothing says one has to get to a particular level of faith before wearing the hijab but at the same time, those who choose to wear it are signifying they are serious with their faith and religion. at least, this is how we earthly beings see it.and earthly beings should start knowing that they(sisters) are humans too and are liable to err. |
| Islam › Re: Muslim Women & Polygamy: Would You Tolerate A 2nd Wife? by deols(f): 7:21pm On Oct 31, 2011 |
frosbel:wat do u thnk of singing boring songs for eternity. which would u rather  |
| Islam › Re: Muslim Women & Polygamy: Would You Tolerate A 2nd Wife? by deols(f): 7:17pm On Oct 31, 2011 |
kq:u'r right jare brother. omobadan:the very big difference btw Muslims and christians is, while we are very realistic and dont live on false hopes, they keep arguing for the sake of arguing without putting their words into action. see an unchaste man coming to defend monogamy- wat greater hypocrisy can any1 think of |
| Islam › Re: Come And See jihad For What It Is by deols(op): 7:17pm On Oct 31, 2011 |
lol, dont be too scared now! we are nice people!! |
| Islam › Re: Muslim Women & Polygamy: Would You Tolerate A 2nd Wife? by deols(f): 7:09pm On Oct 31, 2011 |
@ coogar, you haven't? i laugh in hijab for the 2nd time.wat else qualifies as furnication and is dat d biblical interpretation of it or your personal view? so why wear the hijab? please educate me.u are justifying ur stereotypical attitude ??  it's a simple case to much whom is given, much is expected.you are getting it wrong again. DOnt ever think Islam is all about popular opinion. Wearing the hijab gets me reward from God. it doesnt make me feel more pious than people who dont. It only means they are missing out on that reward and d other benefits of being covered up such as it being ur identification as a Muslimah. Nothing in Islam says u av to get to a particular level of faith before u can wear hijab. if all Muslims were supposed to just be pious on d basis of the mode of dressing or just because they are muslims, d'u think w'd b avn corporal punishments in Islam |
| Islam › Re: Muslim Women & Polygamy: Would You Tolerate A 2nd Wife? by deols(f): 6:52pm On Oct 31, 2011 |
frosbel:I know all you do is post. You do not read and when you do, u dont assimilate. that is why u avnt learnt anything on this forum. go to d previous page nd c where i answered coogar |
| Islam › Re: Muslim Women & Polygamy: Would You Tolerate A 2nd Wife? by deols(f): 6:49pm On Oct 31, 2011 |
coogar:its a matter of choice. Nothing at all would make me go for a married man- dat is my choice. some1 else might think differently though |
| Islam › Re: Muslim Women & Polygamy: Would You Tolerate A 2nd Wife? by deols(f): 6:46pm On Oct 31, 2011 |
that was a brilliant write-up! he didnt copy and paste ds time around live separately from the other women? will your husband accept that?you did not get the point. I know many of you dont know of how Muslims live. U probably are unaware that many Muslims put their wives in different homes. that is what I mean. It is not the separation of leaving matrimony. Living away from them is just to avoid all the possible complications. From the people I know, women who live apart respect each other more. talking as if you don't know men.you can not call dat jeopardy and rather than conclude, u cld av asked how that works. Even a nonMuslim knows anything can happen in marriage. What makes u go into it in the first place is the trust u av in ur partner. I dont av one yet, but when I do, it would be with someone of good conscience. someone who wld keep to his words. One of the xteristics of an hypocrite according to Islam is that they keep promises without fulfilling them. A good Muslim wldnt fall into that category and if I would be marrying one, then I av nothing to worry about. |
| Islam › Re: Muslim Women & Polygamy: Would You Tolerate A 2nd Wife? by deols(f): 6:27pm On Oct 31, 2011 |
MAURI:we all know some of those diseases are transmitted in other ways too. But, remove the spread by sexual intercourse and see if we wont be avn a reduced prevalence. If men would stick to their married partners rather than going around |
| Islam › Re: Muslim Women & Polygamy: Would You Tolerate A 2nd Wife? by deols(f): 6:24pm On Oct 31, 2011 |
coogar Kibroth Hattaavah Posts: 3831 Online Online Re: Muslim Women & Polygamy: Would You Tolerate A 2nd Wife? « #78 on: Today at 15:45:41 » it's a myth that there are more women than men in the world.i read some statistics that are making me question dat too must everyone marry?Every one who wants to have s3x, have children(if not adopting) should be married. matter of factly, its d reason many pple are gettn married if they are Godly. some do really and that is very bad. |
| Islam › Re: Muslim Women & Polygamy: Would You Tolerate A 2nd Wife? by deols(f): 6:19pm On Oct 31, 2011 |
first, I need u to understand wat being a Muslim means. Islam means total submission to the will of God. I am human and I can be emotional but when it comes to the words of God, the worst I can do is say, Ok, I agree but I wish nd will work hard to perfect my ways. so are you married?-No -No -Tolerating them would be a last resort. I'll try my feminine manipulative powers to keep him to myself and if those fail I'll accept and will live separately from the other women. But u need to know also that You are allowed in Islam to discuss certain things with the man u'r going to marry before undergoing it and pre nuptials are allowed. You can include what you wouldnt take in such a pre nuptial. Many people are ignorant of it though. |
| Islam › Re: Muslim Women & Polygamy: Would You Tolerate A 2nd Wife? by deols(f): 6:03pm On Oct 31, 2011 |
IbroSaunks (m)www.quranicstudies.com/louay-fatoohi/jihad/the-meaning-of-jihad.html |
| Islam › Re: Come And See jihad For What It Is by deols(op): 6:00pm On Oct 31, 2011 |
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| Islam › Re: Muslim Women & Polygamy: Would You Tolerate A 2nd Wife? by deols(f): 5:56pm On Oct 31, 2011 |
Islam is criticized for allowing polygamy, for popular culture in the West views polygamy as relatively backward and impoverished. For many Christians, it is a license to promiscuity, and feminists consider it a violation of women’s rights and demeaning to women. A crucial point that needs to be understood is that for Muslims, standards of morality are not set by prevalent Western thought, but by divine revelation. A few simple facts should be borne in mind before any talk of polygamy in Islam. Islam Did Not Initiate Polygamy Islam did not introduce polygamy. Among all Eastern nations of antiquity, polygamy was a recognized institution. Among the Hindus, polygamy prevailed from the earliest times. There was, as among the ancient Babylonians, Assyrians, and Persians, no restriction as to the number of wives a man might have. Although Greece and Rome were not polygamous societies, concubinage was a norm. Islam regulated polygamy by limiting the number of wives and bringing responsibility to its practice. In fact, according to David Murray, an anthropologist, historically polygamy is more common than monogamy. Polygamy Practiced by God’s Prophets The great Hebrew patriarchs equally revered by Judaism, Christianity, and Islam - Abraham, Moses, Jacob, David, and Solomon, to name a few – were polygamous. According to the Bible: Abraham had three wives (Genesis 16:1, 16:3, 25:1) Moses had two wives (Exodus 2:21, 18:1-6; Numbers 12:1) Jacob had four wives (Genesis 29:23, 29:28, 30:4, 30:9) David had at least 18 wives (1 Samuel 18:27, 25:39-44; 2 Samuel 3:3, 3:4-5, 5:13, 12:7-8, 12:24, 16:21-23) Solomon had 700 wives (1 Kings 11:3).[3] The example of Jesus, who otherwise overlooked polygamy, is irrelevant as he did not marry during his earthly ministry. Marriage in Islam Marriage is a legal arrangement in Islam, not a sacrament in the Christian sense, and is secured with a contract. Islamic marriage lays rights and corresponding responsibilities on each spouse. Children born in wedlock are given legitimacy and share in inheritance from their parents. The primary purpose of marriage in Islam is regulating sexuality within marriage as well as creating an atmosphere for the continuity and extension of the family. This is in sharp contrast to growing trends on marriage in the West. In recent decades, there are more alternatives to marriage than ever before. Cohabitation - living together outside of marriage - has greatly increased among young, never-married adults, as well as the divorced. More American women are having children outside of marriage, ignoring the traditionally sanctioned sequence of marriage followed by childbearing. Polygamy in the Quran The Muslim scripture, the Quran, is the only known world scripture to explicitly limit polygamy and place strict restrictions upon its practice: “… marry women of your choice, two or three or four; but if you fear that you shall not be able to deal justly with them, then only one.” (Quran 4:3) The Quran limited the maximum number of wives to four. In the early days of Islam, those who had more than four wives at the time of embracing Islam were required to divorce the extra wives. Islam further reformed the institution of polygamy by requiring equal treatment to all wives. The Muslim is not permitted to differentiate between his wives in regards to sustenance and expenditures, time, and other obligations of husbands. Islam does not allow a man to marry another woman if he will not be fair in his treatment. Prophet Muhammad forbade discrimination between the wives or between their children. Also, marriage and polygamy in Islam is a matter of mutual consent. No one can force a woman to marry a married man. Islam simply permits polygamy; it neither forces nor requires it. Besides, a woman may stipulate that her husband must not marry any other woman as a second wife in her prenuptial contract. The point that is often misunderstood in the West is that women in other cultures - especially African and Islamic - do not necessarily look at polygamy as a sign of women’s degradation. Consequently, to equate polygamy with degrading women is an ethnocentric judgment of other societies. Even though we see the clear permissibility of polygamy in Islam, its actual practice is quite rare in many Muslim societies. Some researchers estimate no more than 2% of the married males practice polygamy. Most Muslim men feel they cannot afford the expense of maintaining more than one family. Even those who are financially capable of looking after additional families are often reluctant due to the psychological burdens of handling more than one wife. One can safely say that the number of polygamous marriages in the Muslim world is much less than the number of extramarital affairs in the West. In other words, contrary to prevalent notion, men in the Muslim world today are more strictly monogamous than men in the Western world. http://www.islamreligion.com/articles/325/ |
| Islam › Re: Muslim Women & Polygamy: Would You Tolerate A 2nd Wife? by deols(f): 5:49pm On Oct 31, 2011 |
maclatunji:and they put the children born out of wedlock in psychological turmoil. Imagine that BOla Ige's out of wed-lock son looks more like him than those born of his wife. And he was a devoted christian o. |
| Islam › Re: Muslim Women & Polygamy: Would You Tolerate A 2nd Wife? by deols(f): 5:41pm On Oct 31, 2011 |
nagoma:I beg tell dem again o. Many of these nairaland christians are hypocrites. Muslims will always stand on to defend what Islam says But for fear of being called old school, they leave out what the bible says. The bible is good when it conforms with their lifestyles but becomes of the stone age when it doesnt. coogar:I find that hilarious too and I hate to call any1 d.umb! Lol |
| Islam › Re: Muslim Women & Polygamy: Would You Tolerate A 2nd Wife? by deols(f): 5:36pm On Oct 31, 2011 |
says who? that luxury is no longer in your hands.there are many options. What if they live in different houses?? i am sure the statistics don't agree with you. muslims don't keep away as much as they can.you are educated bro. What statistics are u talking about. there are about 1.5 billion Muslims in d world. Stop judging by Nigerian Muslims. Thats like Using Nigeria as the yardstick for development in the world. Generally, Nigerians have the tendency to either over do or under do things. .hope u get my point. Arab Muslims do not practice it as much as Nigerians do. It is something rooted in our culture. How do u think Yorubas see a man who has many women, culturally. you still don't get it!Again, they may not live together. and conflict dont only come from such quarters. You can have an in-law giving u wahala or a neighbour and there are always ways to avoid them. U'll need to be wise and again its a test. Letsee how tolerant u can be. The more u take her attitude and have patience with her, the more your reward. Think about the ultimate goal, man. It is not easy but possible. the most perfect driver can still run into auto-accident. even if he drives perfectly, a drunken driver can run into him.I Agree |
| Islam › Re: Muslim Women & Polygamy: Would You Tolerate A 2nd Wife? by deols(f): 5:22pm On Oct 31, 2011 |
Okija_juju (m)she was forced into marriage and still she would have married u if u were a Muslim?? y lie to make a point. rub ur mouth with ur palm. . |
| Islam › Re: 9 Stupid Questions You Hear When You Wear Hijab by deols(op): 5:15pm On Oct 31, 2011 |
okija, do u believe in God ur picture. were u smoking weed? |
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