₦airaland Forum

Obi1kenobi:
You haven't refuted any claims though. You're just rambling rather aimlessly. What did you expect me to do? Provide stats about how many people have central sewage? Do you have it in your area? If you have nothing credible to post, stop wasting my time.

Why waste time refuting unsubstantiated babbles, substantiate it and watch me refute every word.

If you are going to use your flawed brush to generalize, do it with a little sense, logic and facts.

Obi1kenobi:
They're only "unsubstantiated" if you don't live in Nigeria, or if you're ignorant, or if you're lying and being deliberately obtuse. If you have any point to dispute from there, you can give it a try.

The fact that I live in Nigeria doesn't mean you or I'm allowed to make ignorant, wild and unsubstantiated claims.

Obi1kenobi:
That guy's ranking is not based on any reliable, transparent metrics. He basically just listed the top economies on the continent. How do you measure the most technologically advanced nations? Are the involved metrics corrected for population?

Your other post with broad generalizations and unsubstantiated claims about Nigeria have metrics?

O0XYGEN:
We are talking about Africa Dickhead.

You obviously gave yourself that name after looking in the mirror.

Silly ipob joker picking and choosing after the fact.

gadaffioba:
What's all this talk about building BRT lane, across the lagoon and across the marina.

Do you know Lagos rail projects was once suspended and restarted .

If another African country completed third projects before ours, we should ask what is wrong with our project, and not making the other countries look inferior.

If another country completes whatever they are doing before us, that's their problem, not ours because we are not doing the same thing.

Last time I checked, what we are doing in Lagos is the largest public works project in Africa and work is yet to stop, work is still going on so what is your headache about?

O0XYGEN:
And so?
Are we talking about infrastructural development or technology?
With your huge population are u not supposed to be even first?
You are not even ashamed.

China and India are more populated than the US, so please tell us, are both countries technologically advanced than the US?


You people come up with the most absurd and unintelligent logic ever.

vantage001:
Yes, play the IPOB card like the bloody illiterate you are.
Lagos is not in top 15 most developed african cities, and you are calling IPOB.
This is third world africa we are talking about here and lagos is like a pig sty compared to many of these african cities.
You dey craze for head.

So, 2 pictures of high rise building is the standard measure for greatness these days because if that's the case, there are more skyscrapers in Lagos than many countries in Africa combined?


I referenced ipobs because such shallow and unintelligent thinking is very synonymous with them and their manner of reasoning and the fact that they hate Nigeria doesn't help their shallow thinking ways.

raker300:
lagos has so much money and what has it achieved? Be reasonable

Asking me what Lagos achieved is basically letting me know that you don't know Lagos or you are just being silly.

A thread with 2 pictures of high rise buildings means some village country is better than Lagos? Do you know how many high rise and skyscrapers they have in Lagos?


Shebi you be ipob anyway?

Hati13:
I hadn't seen the Lagos, so I can't say yes or no. But since you have said the Lagos is different, I believe you.

I'm not the one who is comparing, rather it's you and your friend. I hadn't say anything about Lagos railway and you perfectly know it. I just correct him, then you too started to post hateful comments.

I'm not the one who is ignorant and shortsighted, it's rather you. You are the one who criticized Addis railway, when you hadn't seen it. I hadn't criticized Lagos railway, because I hadn't seen it. I just corrected "HughJazz" on Addis railway. Don't let your loud mouth from talking about something he didn't know

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Again, very hypocritical.

So, how do you beat something that you haven't seen or know nothing about and that's not even the same?


You were going on and on about what they have in Ethiopia like how many stations, underground and all that when in fact you haven't seen what they have in Lagos an you don't even know that Lagos state's is a combination of multiples lines, 10 lane freeway and building rail bridge from Iganmu over the lagoon to the marina.



I did not even quote you in the beginning, I asked the questions below to show that both projects should not be compared because they are different.

Are they building a 60km 10 lane freeway at the same time also like Lagos ? No


Are they building a 60 km BRT access at the same time like Lagos? No

Are they building miles of Metro rail bridge over any lagoon like they are doing in Lagos? No

Are the building miles of Metro bridge across the Marina like Lagos? No

Are the building real stations like they are doing in Lagos? No, they built sheds like bus stops.

77al:
Hati13, deomelo, let's stop this back and forth childish arguments, whether it's a metro rail or not, GDP or not I don't care at all.

The OP posted something and you guys are fighting for what again...could you please remind me?

We're all Africans and we should be proud of each other, saying a country is better that the other isn't going to change anything if we keep fighting these kind of silly fights.

We should be thinking of the African renaissance and how to help each other escape our present state.

Hai13, dwindling, show us the adults you are and apologize to eachother and establish the African Renaissance.

Peace

Addis Ababa Bets Lagos To Light Rail As Construction Delays Mount

The problem here is the title which makes no sense.

It's like saying you did good by finishing a 1 mile race ahead of the person running a 20 mile race. There is no logic or any connection between both projects.

Yes African should be proud, but you beat another African country by completing something before another African country when in fact what yo did was totally different sounds illogical, deceptive and irrational.

raker300:
Remove oil and Nigeria is the poorest country in Africa.

2017, we're still talking of diversification.

Rwanda's exports are as follows:

Without oil, Lagos is the 5th largest economy in Africa


Lagos State's GDP is $131 Billion. Not even up to 1 billion.


Rwnada's GDP is $697.35


Abeg stop the ignorance and quit putting your own country down just because you hate Nigeria or want your own ipob.

Hati13:
Hhhhhh, are you writing your comments, while you are on drugs? I bet you answer is yes. You aren't been eduacative here. All your comments are full of insults and hate. And how my comments are related to low self esteem? Answer it! It was very sad that you had been counted to make the 7 billions people on Earth. I doubt you are Homo Saipan! Who are you? Are you the last Home Erects currently living? Please prove to us you aren't!


Why do you want me to be bad? If that is what you want, then you will not succeed. If you are sure I said negative things about Lagos or Nigeria, then Quote. Don't write about something you wanted to be. Be a true person.


You are perfectly right on the fact one, but wrong on the comparison part. If posting a fact is inappropriate, then how isn't inappropriate for you to post a lie. It's you who are comparing how modern your railway will be and how trash Addis railway is.


Quote any statement which is a lie! Quote any! You must be addicted to a lie.


I didn't post baseless and illogical comments. Why do you want me to be like you want. Why are mad for correcting your friend false comment? Are you one of those people, who feel happiness by reading false information? It so sad that out of those millions sperms and eggs, you happened to be fertilize. I hope your children will not be dumb, jealous, low self esteem, arrogant, ignorant and so on....... like you!

Question. Are both projects the same in anyway, shape or form?


Please answer.

Hati13:
You can see from the above how negative attitude you have toward Ethiopia. It was your friend who started the comparison. Did any of my comments show comparison? No, it didn't. My comments don't lie like you mouth. Then,you came out of nowhere to start your hating comments. Every single word you wrote were for the purpose to show your hate towards me and Ethiopia.

There's nothing negative about education you and highlighting your low self esteem, low self esteem and hypocrisy.

Do try to act that I'm the hater here. I know your head is full of hate, yes, I know. Is this what you want me to know? If yes, then I'm happy you hated me and Ethiopia.

You are the hater, you came here with hatred and negativity to compare 2 different and unrelated projects just to put Lagos down and I educated you accordingly.

I at least created educative topics. I'm not someone like you who signed up for posting hateful comments. If I want to be hateful, I could be, but I don't live by that principle.

You educate only by stating logical facts and comparisons, but all you did was compare 2 different projects with nothing in common.

You was trying to misinform and pass on deceptive info so don't get mad because you got called out.

I hadn't romanticized about anything. Every single statement you commented about me is lie. If I was jealous and damaged like you, I would have compared your country Dam with Renaissance Dam, your country history with our history, your country military with our military, your country peace with our peace and so on......, but I'm not like you who feel happiness by compare things.

Are we talking about the same geographical environment, same project scope, same cost of land, same cost of labor, same cost of manpower and materials and so on?


Of course, you know how to make baseless and illogical comparisons.


Get a life abeg.

vincentjk:
If you don't know let me tell you

Hausas are afraid and submissive to the igbos thats why their career in the east doesn't exceed selling dibino lmao

We are in the north and we own a plaza, cars and houses in the north

You own everything, but you still play victim and you are still irrelevant politically and in the grand scheme f things in Nigeria.

No ipob silly and tribal thread is complete without shallow and empty chest beating that amounts to nothing in reality.


You people funny die I swear..

maximilano:
There's nothing to be angered about when it comes to Ipob because everyone knows Ipob are just noisemakers with low self-esteem who would rather channel their energy to insult others on social sites than looking for ways to actualize their goal. You're all online noisemakers with no action, empty barrels they said makes the loudest noise. Keep attacking the Afonjas while the hausa Fulani's enslaves you all.

Basically true.

Hati13:
Lagos GDP is twice the GDP of Ethiopia, so Lagos has more financial muscle than the federal gov't of Ethiopia. So what is the problem to say Addis vs Lagos railway? It only become inappropriate to say Addis vs Lagos railway, if the gov't of Ethiopia is richer than Lagos state.

What's GDP got to do wit anything?

Ethiopia didn't build the metro with their GDP, it was funded with the loan Ethiopian government took from China. It was a sovereign loan.

It was hypocritical of you to put Lagos down in favor of a less intensive and unrelated metro rail in Ethiopia and this is my main point.

The comparison was ignorant and silly since both projects have nothing in common from concept to scale and funding.

They have absolutely nothing in common.

It's funny how you have the nerve to say how hating I'm, when you can see from the above, how hating you are. Just because I corrected him, you act like this. I didn't try to put Nigeria down in any way and you perfectly know it. If you think like this, then Quote any word that I used to put Nigeria down. You can say whatever you want, but the comments I posted never lie.

Educating you and highlighting your hypocrisy and hate is not hating, you just have to learn how to read and comprehend.


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Yes, almost all my topics are related to Ethiopia, so what's the problem? I'm Ethiopian and I know about Ethiopia. So, posting about Ethiopia is inappropriate here? Have you been criticized by someone for posting about your country? I came to this forum with the intention of telling about my country and to learn about other countries. Almost all the topics here are about Nigeria, so why do I need to create a topic about Nigeria, when there are many others creating topics about it with great knowledge. Why do I need to create topics about other countries when I don't have full knowledge about them? You can see some of my comments if you want and will learn that I tried to know about their countries by asking them.

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Nothing about posting about Ethiopia is inappropriate, it only shows that you are narrowly focused and intellectually biased and this thread is a refection of your narrow mindedness.

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You and your friend "HughJazz" can think what ever you want about me or my country. I wish you and him nothing but a mature, intelligent and respectful mind, since you both lacked them.

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You are free to go and romanticized all you want about your metro, but please stop boring us with your ignorance, narrow mindedness and petty and needless competition because we are not on the same level. Having a metro rail that's running doesn't mean your Little metro rail is better or bigger than Lagos Metro rail.

Lagos Metro rail and 10 lane freeway system is still the largest public works project in Africa so go away with your baby metro rail.

The same one and only village flyover.


Achievements​ no even reach half a page on NL.


SMH.

You tribally diseased people don't get tired ni? smh.

Hati13:
Define common rail system? Is having 39 stations, 41 trains and building some of the line underground a common rail system? If yes, then be it. If no, then also be it

I repeat it's a common metro rail system with nothing more to it.

Are they building a 60km 10 lane freeway at the same time also like Lagos ? No


Are they building a 60 km BRT access at the same time like Lagos? No

Are they building miles of Metro rail bridge over any lagoon like they are doing in Lagos? No

Are the building miles of Metro bridge across the Marina like Lagos? No

Are the building real stations like they are doing in Lagos? No, they built sheds like bus stops.

Why do you say Ethiopia vs Lagos railway? Why not you say Addis vs Lagos railway, since the railway in Ethiopia found in Addis.

You obviously know little or nothing about the project in Ethiopia.

The fact that it was sited in their capital doesn't mean it's not a project executed by the Ethiopian government.

The Ethiopian government constructed the metro rail with loans the government of Ethiopia took from china and a Chinese company built it.

The Lagos Metro is 100% Lagos state project.

Why do you want to create drawbacks(when their is none) to denounce your fellow African great achievement, just to higher your will be achievement?

Coming from the same poster who just labeled the Lagos state metro rail a railway when in fact it's a metro rail and a 10 lane freeway system.

You are comfortable putting Lagos with a more comprehensive and financial and labor intensive project down in favor of Ethiopia common metro system with nothing else to it.

You are just another hating hypocrite.

I'm not the one who is ignorant and shortsighted, it's rather you. You are the one who criticized Addis railway, when you hadn't seen it. I hadn't criticized Lagos railway, because I hadn't seen it. I just corrected "HughJazz" on Addis railway. Don't let your loud mouth from talking about something he didn't know!

You obviously don't know how to read and comprehend because explaining the difference between both projects and why the should never be compared and criticizing are 2 different things.


Just to educate you further, the Lagos Metro rail and 10 lane freeway system started in 2012 and this is 2017, meaning the project is only 5-year-old project while many countries with less labor intensive system spend over a decade on theirs.



Ignorance is your and jealousy problem.


You are nothing but a hating ethiopian trying to put Nigeria down with your small scale local railway.

All your threads on NL are all pro ethiopia so stop all the silly and retentious nonsense.

Lagos remains the largest public works project in Africa and it's a state project.


Below are all your ethiopia threads on NL.

kingPINN:
Addis Ababa beats Lagos to light rail as construction delays mount
Ethiopia has managed to deliver Sub-Saharan Africa’s first modern light rail project which opened in the capital Addis Ababa on Sunday, and in the process, beat Lagos whose own rail project remains four years behind schedule.

Ethiopia’s rail project was delivered on time, despite its being longer than the Lagos – Badagry rail line currently under construction.

Addis Ababa’s two line 34-kilometre system was built by the China Railway Engineering Corporation (CREC) and cost $475m, 85 percent of which has been covered by China’s Exim bank.

The Lagos Light Rail Project or Blue on Badagry Expressway, was to have 13 stations from Okokomaiko to Marina via Iddo for a total of 27 kilometres.

The contract was awarded to the Chinese Civil Engineering Construction Company (CCECC) at the cost of $1.2 billion in 2008, and was to be delivered in 2011.

Survey work took one year between August 2009 and August 2010 while construction began July 2010.

The work is being implemented using the public and private partnership (PPP) model, whereby the state builds the infrastructure and the private sector provides the rolling stock and management.

However, the project has not worked out according to the plan.

The 2011 deadline was missed, even though the State government got a loan to fund the project.

In January 2013, the then governor, Babatunde Raji Fashola, while on an inspection tour of the work being done, promised that the first phase of the Blue Light Rail project would be completed by June of 2013.

Fashola gushed then that Lagosians would start enjoying the services of the rail project immediately. According to him, “This is what we do with the loan collected by the government. We don’t use our loan to pay salaries and other recurrent expenditure, what we do with our loan is to provide capital projects that would serve the residents. When the project is completed, the state would be at par with other major cities of the world.”

Lagos has a population of just over 20 million people, compared to Addis Ababa’s five million.

The Ethiopian light rail has a capacity to carry 60,000 passengers a day across the capital of Africa’s second most populous nation.

Ethiopia was able to complete the project despite its $50 billion GDP being about half the Lagos economy.

Lagos currently doesn’t have enough infrastructure to move its teeming population, with choked roads and bridges sometimes leading to four hour “go slows” or traffic jams.

Mercy Anakwe, a young lady who resides in the Iba axis of Lagos( far from the glistening business district of Victoria Island and Ikoyi) but works in Festac, says completing the rail line would help ease her transportation costs as well as the stress of daily commuting.

“We are really suffering over here. Sometimes I wonder if the government still remembers this part of Lagos,” Anakwe said.

Ethiopia’s transport minister, Workneh Gebeyehu, said the tramway project would also boost Ethiopia’s bid to make the city — already the seat of the African Union — the undisputed continental hub.

“This is a sign of modernity. This is a very modern train that will serve the capital city of Africa. We are very proud of that,” he said.

Culled from Business Day Online.

1. Another write up about 2 totally different projects in totally different environments.

2. Ethiopia's rail is just a common rail system and nothing more.

3. Lagos rail system is not just a rail system, it's a combination of a rail system with a 60 klm 10 lane freeway system and BRT access.

4. Lagos rail travels through many rail stations that must be built

5. Lagos rail station travels over the Lagos Lagoon, meaning they have to construct a rail bridge over the Lagoon which is currently under construction.


6. Ethiopia is a country while Lagos is just state in Nigeria




The Lagos Metro rail is still the most groundbreaking and comprehensive project in Africa and an not and shouldn't be compared with an ordinary metro rail in Ethiopia.

Lagos Metro rail is the kind of projects countries embark on and the fact Lagos state is handling such project is more than commendable.

The ignorant and shortsighted writers sure need some p[roper education and ability to compare logically.

The jail bird dumped his prison comrades and cut and run just like ojukwu left his men on the battlefield to fcukk ashawo in ivory coast.

They say the captain is always the last man to leave the ship, but not when it comes to these weak jokers.

Birds of the same feather.

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