₦airaland Forum

pazienza:
Neither Zik nor Ironsi used military force to keep Yolobas or Arewanistans as part of Nigeria with active support of the Igboids populace.

You simply have no point.

Our sovereignty is ours, we decide on it and our right to self determination is sacrosanct.

We will not be blackmailed by war mongering, power hungry retrogressive groups into sharing a failed Colonial entity with them.

Deal with it or continue threatening war and death on Biafrans and still turn around to say you don't care about our Biafran movement.

Confused fellows. Someone once said Oduduwa knocked his head on the floor when he fell on Earth from heaven or is it hell sef. Cause the cognitive dissonance shown by his Yoloba descendants seem to suggest so.

Had the Eastern Region opted for Independence at that time, the territory under its control would have comprised in today's terms the following nine States with their enormous human and natural resources Abia, Akwa-Ibom, Anambra, Bayelsa, Cross River, Ebonyi, Enugu, Imo, Rivers state. It would also probably include Southern Cameroun with the oil rich Bakassi Peninsula. If not for Zik, by 1960, the three Regions would have become separate sovereign states and there would have been no question of Biafra's attempted secession in 1967 from a non-existing Nigeria federation and the devastating civil war fought to stop it.

Chief Uwechue

pazienza:
The fear of wasting 3million of his tribesmen in a
war doomed to fail stopped him. Particularly when
common sense, foresight and diplomacy could
have solved the problem. Even Azikiwe with all his
greed and stupidity knew that but the yeeboe greed
and Taiwan sense refused to allow him chose
wisely

Who would have fought Awolowo? Zik? certainly not. As he made it obvious that he had no interest beyond diplomacy in wining any group into Nigerian union.

Arewa? Certainly not, as of then, they were contemplating secession too. It took Zik further years down the line to convince them.

So, who would have stopped Awolowo if declared Odualand independent?

Certainly not Zik or Ndiigbo.

The greedy mofo whose greed for power and money set his region on fire, and whose input in the war and post civil war polices aimed at enabling him and his greedy kinsmen get their hands on the Nigerian public and private sector, had made unity impossible, as neither present or future Biafrans would accept co existence with Arewa-oduanistanis ever again.

Your Excellency, Sir, don't you think that our Igbo founding fathers are to blame for our present predicament, Awo to me was wise, he wanted to build a great nation from sub-ethnic nationality, while Zik tried to build a great nation from the centre to the sub ethnic level, in the long run the Igbo are worse off for it? - Chief Uwechue

shukuokukobambi:
They can't go. Zik begged the Hausa/Fulani to stay in the Union as the shitgboes couldn't exist without them

Forget all the noise. Zik has tied their destiny to the Fulani

pazienza:
What's this whole threat of war all about, if not because you can't proffer superior argument on why Nigeria should be united other than use of brute force, threat of death and war?

Why are you crying over Biafran threads in Nigeria, wishing death on IPOBs, goading Nigerian security forces to shoot at them, trying to create a non existing scenario of Zik forcing Awolowo and Yolobas to be in Nigeria in1954, if not to justify the unity of Nigeria and reinforce why Biafrans should be trapped in a retrogressive union with Islamic people of Arewa-oduanistani?

Are you not ashamed of yourselves?

pazienza:
Lol! is this what it has come to?

Still threats of war, simply because they can't present a superior argument for Nigerian unity.

Hehe!

pazienza:
Biafrans left your Arewa-oduanistan for you in 1966, our leaders then also aligned with the Biafran movement then, but it never stopped you Arewa-oduanistanis from ganging up with Arewa people, serving as foot soldiers for the British.

Been there, done that.

Biafrans will choose how to go about extracting ourselves from retrogressive union with Islamic people of Arewa-oduanistan, and we wouldn't need suggestions or opinions of Yolobas on how to go about it, especially when Yolobas are yet to map out plans on how to save Ilorin and potentially the entire Yoloboic Kwara people from Fulani subjugation.

Physician, heal yourself first.

pazienza:
Why should we forget about Zik diplomacy?

We are Igbos, a group of tribes who evolved mini republican states governed by a complex form
of Democracies even before the ancient Greeks knew of Democracy.

Through diplomacy we evolved superior means of peaceful resolutions of conflicts that saw our relativelying small landmass region booming with population growth( Wars depopulate regions).

Ojukwu exhausted all peaceful means of resolution of the Biafran question, until Gowon reneged on the Aburi accord.

MASSOB and IPOB are both peaceful groups who had chosen diplomacy as veritable tools for achieving set objectives, they are not armed or terrorist groups.

We are not obsessed about Yolobas and Arewa people, we are just angry that they would gang up with the British and serve as foot soldiers in bid to maintain the indissolublity of Nigeria.
We want Arewa-oduanistanis to mind their own businesses and stop trying to use force or cheap blackmails built on distortion of historical facts to keep us trapped with them in a retrogressive union.

pazienza:
Nzeogwu, Ifeajuna and Ironsi were nationalists, not secessionists. Why would they divide the control using civilian laws, when they were military men?

They wouldnt have touched the secession clause. But Ojukwu would have wanted it activated the moment Igbo massacre went wildfire and Gowon and the North looked other way.

And the same Gowon and his Yoloba advisers that reneged on the Aburi accord, preferring useless decree, would have quickly dissolved that section of the constitution by propounding a new anti secession decree.

So, this secession clause talk is pointless seeing as that period in history where it would have been exercised if at all was a period of military regimes who rule not by constitutions, but by decrees.

pazienza:
"On August 31, 1966, Gowon abolished Decree 34
and restored the federal system. On May 27,
1967, Gowon created the 12 states, killed the four
regions and handed supreme authority to the
central Government. It has been so since"
thenationonlineng.net/journey-that-leads-to-
nowhere/ thenationonlineng.net/journey-that-
leads-to-nowhere/


Read the above again. This time around, slowly.

Thank me later.
Bye bye.

pazienza:
I don't agree with Zik on the indissolublity of the colonial entity. But I'm glad to know that despite the fact that Zik felt the British colonial estate was indissoluble, he admitted that he would personally not go beyond diplomacy to keep any group bent on secession.
Do the Arewa-oduanistanis hold this same view with Zik? No! So why the obsession with Zik words?

pazienza:
"On August 31, 1966, Gowon abolished Decree 34
and restored the federal system. On May 27,
1967, Gowon created the 12 states, killed the four
regions and handed supreme authority to the
central Government. It has been so since"
thenationonlineng.net/journey-that-leads-to-
nowhere/ thenationonlineng.net/journey-that-
leads-to-nowhere/


Awolowo driven by greed goaded and supported Gowon dissolution of Nigerian regions because of his greed and lust for power.

Funny enough,the same slimy Yolobas would chant regionalism today while falsely blaming dead Ironsi for killing the regions, when it was Gowon with his Awolowo partner that did that with active support of Arewa-oduanistani populace.

I will always be here to remind you lots, force it down your throats until you choke from it!
Hehe!

jollymizzle:
ok I get it, you wanted Awolowo to go to war, while you align with the north right. No wonder you fell into the trap you set for your neighbor. We thank God for the foresight he gave Awolowo to avoid a war that would have made us fifth class citizens today. Zik used his raport with the north tovmanipulate the northerners for his own selfish gains. That is the cause of your never ending struggle today.

Adebowale89:
the person that appointed this man and him are compound illiterate


you were employed as custom boss and you're not putting on your uniform which signify the nature of the organization you're representing


why is Nigeria moving backward, instead of forward

imagine the boldness of this man challenging the Parliaments. I don't blame him sha, na wetin the legislature reduce theirselves to

Kiakia:
This man should start wearing uniform as ordered by the Senate. What is the big deal in wearing uniform? Chidoka wore uniform as Commandant of FRSC. Imagine him asking owners of old vehicles to pay for Customer papers! Is this how to improve the IGR of a country? These Buhari appointees are bereft of ideas. Anyway, this is a policy that is dead on arrival. It will never, and can never work in this country. This Hameed Ali should put on his thinking cap to devise other means of generating revenue for his agency and Nigeria.

rasputinn:
No.You should stop hating on Ambode
Fashola is a failed minister, so he should allow achievers help him do the job he does not know how to do

TexasR:
Rubbish, please the space on this thread is too short to enumerate Gove Akinwunmi Ambode's achievements
Even if action governor Ambode's achievements are written all over your body,you'll still choose not to see them,so why waste anybody's time

rasputinn:
You are a good student of history and I agree with you intoto. In fact I'm baffled that people still have the audacity to compare the minister of darkness with the high flying and super performing Ambode.

greatcrown:
What is Ambode's problem?

Has he finished resurfacing or tarring all Lagos state roads?

Ambode should come and attend to all the roads in Egan, Lagos state and leave airport road alone.

Let Ambode focus on his state and leave federal alone at least for now

TexasR:
What is the sensational in this story
Are you the only person that is yet to know that Fashola hates Ambode's guts and would do anything to stop his shine With Ambode's fantastic work rate so far,[b]he has shown that Fashola was nothing more than a glorified horticulturist governor,[/b]he was only busy planting flowers here and there and taking the work of traffic police by jumping into the road to arrest military officers driving on BRT lane.What an asswipe
However,Fashola is already a LOSER cos Ambode is doing well and Lagosians are seeing his work and love him.That coming from me should tell you the guy is good

mikeapollo:
Fashola was over-rated, incompetent and clueless.
He was busy stealing and using Tinubu's legacy projects for propaganda!

Charly68:
Doing so will solve many problems in that part of the world but we only Hope the boys will stop their kidnapping

AceRoyal:
Very funny!

AceRoyal:
Trust me,if that is what you are relying on to fight corruption or referring to as forensic investigation then you need to seek more knowledge and educate yourself.

Most people will easily evade justice if that is what EFCC is relying on.

AceRoyal:
Forensic in Nigeria?


You make me laugh!

AceRoyal:
This is all crap!
Wait patiently and make sure u arrest him immediately he leaves office as governor.
Give us pictures of documents and all to back up your claim.
I'm sick and tired of all these media propaganda to distract us from pressing burning national issues.

How did they arrive at the conclusion that the money paid to Ozekhome was actually from the proceed of Dansuki loot?

What evidence do they have to back up their claim?

Is it illegal to pay for "professional" services rendered and how will one offering such service know about the source of income.

EFCC is grasping at straws because this case is DOA!


P.S- For those gullible people quoting me,I urge you to employ your brain.Read the full article and then think before you jump blindly into conclusion.

hedonistic:
This is a very imbecilic accusation by the EFCC. One doesn't expect common sense in these security agencies since they are populated with "quota system' mediocres and misfits.

So, if I am a thief and I use proceeds of my theft to pay anyone who rendered a service to me - like a barber, a plumber, a prostitute, doctor, or even a lawyer, do these people automatically assume vicarious accompliceship? Would the EFCC also arrest any olosho, doctor or janitor that Fayose has paid for their services recently? This is even assuming but not conceding that Fayose obtained the funds illegally. When you pay for a good or service in the open market, who cares where or how you got the money, and which law makes the seller vicariously liable for a buyer's unlawful source of funds?

This is just ridiculous. No wonder the EFCC is better at arresting indiscriminately, freezing accounts foolishly, and conducting daft media trials AS OPPOSED to securing convictions. Bunch of idiots.