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Sermwell:
Before I stopped going to church, I was living with a very stingy religious uncle who gives me #500 or #1000 for offering every sunday! But the truth was that I have never given the money to church! I had always removed the money and submitted empty envelops!
Just this morning, our house was on "fire" just because I said I wasn't going to church again and in the course of the heated argument, I told them how I had never even paid offering even when the money was given to me!
My parents became mad at me and saying that if I don't go and beg for forgiveness and pay all those money, that the cancerworm and caterpillars will "chop" all the money me and my generation will ever make! Personally, I just believe all those things are trash but the way my dad was saying it convincingly and trying to quote the bible makes me want to ask if those curses are true for "chopping god's money"

Cc: lalasticlala
Cc: seun

DoctorAlien:
... and all known (albeit very rare) cases of mutation have proved fatal and destructive to the mutant individual. Thus, mutation brings extermination instead of development in species.

promise10:
Your stupidity can make people stand in awe!
How the hell does this address the existence of a creator- God??
Are you okay or insane??

kpakpandoN:
Other blessings of solitary living include divine authority, divine revelation and divine direction. In James 5:17, we read that Elijah was a man who possessed divine authority that controlled the weather. He commanded rain to cease and it was so; when he felt it was time to release the rain, he commanded it to start falling and it was so! The Bible says in 1 Kings 17:1:
"And Elijah the Tishbite, who was of the inhabitants of Gilead, said unto Ahab, As the Lord God of Israel liveth, before whom I stand, there shall not be dew nor rain these years, but according to my word."

This did not come by careless and flamboyant living. This authority came as a result of solitary living and a separated life. We can understand this by what God said to Elijah in 1 Kings 18:1:
"And it came to pass after many days, that the word of the Lord came to Elijah in the third year, saying, go, show thyself unto Ahab; and I will send rain upon the earth."

It took instruction from God before Elijah could show himself to Ahab. He had been in solitary confinement ever since he made the proclamation of the drought. Some Christian ministers would want to be seen everywhere, at every public function and yet they want authority, they want divine revelation and direction. They dine and wine with the elites in the society and yet they want to exercise divine authority. It does not work like that. Elijah said, "As the Lord God of Israel liveth, before whom I stand..." Children of God, pastors, where are you standing? Before God or in the crowd?
In the reading of 1 Kings 19:9-18, it is amazing to know that not only spiritual but also physical encouragement came to Elijah during his solitary time with God. Through this divine physical provision, the Bible says that he travelled for forty days and forty nights without eating anything else. One lesson we must quickly grasp here is that God is interested in our physical and spiritual well-being. It is a pity that some Christians spiritualise so many things at the detriment of their physical well-being. Imagine God saying, "Arise and eat; because the journey is too great for thee." This divine consideration came because Elijah took time to be alone with God. One other lesson we must learn is that still in his solitude, Elijah was visited by God and he was able to lodge his complaint against the society he was living in and consequently he was told what to do. We receive divine instruction when we are alone with God. Our misconceptions about life situations will receive clarification and better understanding when we are alone with God. The Bible says:
"The secret of the Lord is with them that fear him; and he will show them his covenant."
Psalm 25:14

Unknown to Elijah that he was not the only prophet standing for God, he wanted to die. However, he was told that God Himself had preserved seven thousand prophets who had not corrupted themselves! What a revelation and a lesson. Never think you are the only one keeping the bound of holiness, there are others unknown to you. So don't give in to the deceit of Satan. God will never change and He will never lower His standards. God bless you as you continue with God in holiness.
Written by Pastor E.A. Adeboye.

hopefulLandlord:
There would be many such pastors bro

As soon as atheism is more acceptable in Nigeria, you'll be amazed

johnydon22:
As a matter of fact, a very great number of Pastors, priest are actually atheists - i sometimes suspect Pope Francis is too but i dont know.

In the neatherlands alone 1 out of every priest/pastor is an atheist.

so there actually might be great number of such 'Faithless' pastors in Nigeria who are just there because the con pays well.

No wonder Pope Leo X said "I and my predecessors We know what a great profit it has been for us, this fable of Christ.

4everGod1:
where is your proof to this assertion.

hopefulLandlord:
Exactly!

That guy cracks me up, he quickly typed long sermon about me not taking challenge

I then accepted a "challenge" of his which I opened a thread for previously and he's still typing sermons

yet he was still "smart" enough to call me the slow one?

All he wants to do here is argue

mayorall:
You need understanding bro. Don't act foolish on prophetic instructions, they are not to be unravelled carnally.

Get a book by Bishop Oyedepo.

Satan get lost. If you enjoyed this on your situation.

Add Born to win. When this give you confidence.

Get the winning prayer. After some days you are losing your confidence,

Get the Faith that works and exploits of faith.

hopefulLandlord:
Anyone that read your first comment and my replies would know who's fast and who's slow

Anyways, me no get time for all this

When you're ready for the amputee, let me know, I shall not reply you on this issue on this thread again

Cheers m8!

KingEbukasBlog:
[size=16pt]Atheist leaders killed over 200 million people in 100 years . From your statement as per the emboldened text , you support the mass killings of innocent religious people because you see it as a right decision since atheism was the animus . [/size]

https://www.nairaland.com/3286519/communist-leaders-killed-millions-because

Such wickedness !!

cc : Winner01

Lennycool:
I assume then you must mean, reasoning without bias. Well elucidate further on what you mean by this. Atheism and agnosticism are synonymous with freethinking. So as a theist, what do you mean by reasoning without bias.

Lennycool:
And what do you mean by this?

Lennycool:
This question has been on my mind for a long time now. What would it take for a theist(one who believes in God) to conclude that God does not Exist? If an atheist was asked the reverse of this question, the atheist might reply with
- let God show himself to everyone in the world
- Heal all cancer patients in the world by just praying
- Regrow the limbs of all amputees by just praying
- Feed all the starving children in the world for a year by just praying. E.t.c all these would be an atheist response, for the atheist to believe a God exist.
Now as a theist (it doesn't matter if you're a christian, Muslim, traditional worshipper e.t.c) what would it take for you to believe that there is no God, or atleast not one that interferes in the lives of humans.
Honest and civilized responses are needed.

hopefulLandlord:
how about you+Doctor+Winner01 against me?
tell me when you guys are ready

hopefulLandlord:
how about you+Doctor+Winner01 against me?
tell me when you guys are ready

adjoviomole:
If evolution was true den, humans should be able to grow back amputated limbs. Since it is blivd dat we evolved frm something dat had no arm or legs nor head, den it should not be impossible for evolution to regrow limbs in human.



Over to the wise men!

adjoviomole:
What about the disadvantages? while u are at it list the benefit of cigarette too

adjoviomole:
answer me 1st. What is good in alcohol and smoking?

analice107:
You r welcome Milord.

I Respect your calm disposition, unlike these atheists here. It was nice chatting with you. God bless (You don't have to say Amen) i have said it for you.

analice107:
Yes nah. He has disobeyed God's obstructions. But wait oo. John is not guiltless.

How many sins did it take for Adam to die spiritually? ONE.

SO, yes, if John disobeys and dies in his sinful state, Opkari.

Sin kills the spirit in man, and its that part of man that enters heaven, as no flesh can enter. So now John has died spiritually, which part of him will then enter heaven?

The Road is Straight and Narrow and few shall find it...

analice107:
This takes us back to an allusion someone made here down the line using HIV. How many times does it a take someone to have unprotected sex with a high risk person before he contacts HIV? Once? But, what if you were warned, but lust wont let you?


Now, lets look at it this way; How many times does John needs to steal to be a thief?

Like i said, John cant just happen to steal without first harbouring the thoughts of stealing in his mind. And the Holy Spirit through his conscience will warn him, its disobedience to the voice of the Holy Spirit that will eventually plunge him into theft. It will be more than one sin instead of just theft.

To steal, Jonh must of necessity have a motive, he must be a greedy fellow, (lack of contentment). He has to be Covetous, then lust after what he wants to use the money for. Three sins.

My dear, Sins throng themselves along.

You think he will be guiltless before God?

sexual immorality is even the worst as it takes a lot and much longer to plan. All along the Holy Spirit is there speaking, Don't do it, don't do it, don't do it... BUT, INSENSITIVITY TO THE SPIRIT.

hopefulLandlord:
all those CAN be spontaneous

analice107:
Hahahahahahahaha. Very good analogies, but your last two are premeditated. Theres no way John will engage in a sexual act with a married women spontaneously. It starts from them getting close first. exchange phone numbers, calls, chats, flirting, lusting and then planning to meet secretly for the act. From the start, If John is a believer with the Holy Spirit in him, he would have been warned over and over.

Trap, you are walking into a trap. The Holy Spirit will throw in scriptures about adulterous women, the danger of allowing adulterous woman to lure him. John would ve made up his mind to commit that sin, hence, pay deaf ears to the Holy Spirit's convictions. There's no excuse here.

The second scenario is greed, covetousness and the lust of flesh. It also takes planning, its not spontaneous. No an excuse.

promise10:
Delusion can be worst of all diseases!

Believers don't go to hell, but unbelievers who have REJECTED the good news of what Jesus has done on their behalf!

analice107:
Ok, now i get you. Lets create a scenario.

John is a Christian, he is permitted to get angry because he is human, but not permitted to allow his anger get the better part of him. But, he got careless spiritually and the adversary took advantage of that and attacked him, by stirring up an unreasonable person against him. The unreasonable person insults his mother, and hits him on his nose, he gets really upset and hits back, the unreasonable person picks a bottle and smashes his head with it, John collapses and dies.

Do you mean in a case like this? If this is what you mean, God won't send John to hell.

He is a Just God who sees our hearts and weighs our actions by our hearts contents (Motives).