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analice107:
Why did you read the Bible?

I read the Bible then as required by my beliefs as a devote Christian.

analice107:
The question is, what are the requirements to enter Allahs heaven? If a Christian stands before allah what will allah used in judging a Christian?

Allah= More good deeds, less bad deeds = Heaven

Yahweh= No bad deeds at all = Heaven.

Again, what will allah use against a Christian

Yahweh and Allah both require belief primarily, I stand to be corrected. That will be the primary criteria for the Paradise without which the good deeds are useless.

Nollywood has done more harm than good in this respect.
Promoting false beliefs

Dejideji1:
you are the one that is reasoning like a child here, for your information i have never had sex before in my life talkless of having unprotected sex because I'm not yet married. God created sex for married couples only. Sex before marriage or outside the confines of marriage and other sexual immorality is a terrible sin in the sight of God. The bible laid emphasis on it in the book of 1st corinthians 6 vs18

flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a person commits are outside the body, but whoever sins sexually, sins against their own body

I knew the HIV analogy will not go down well with you and other unbelievers living a reckless life and that is why you flared up, and desperately want to turn the analogy on my head.

For you to have made that comment regarding me means that your guilty conscience has been prickled.
It's just the same way you and other unbelievers will flare up each time we raise the issue of Hell.

People that are not promiscuous or doing other things that can make them prone to being infected with HIV will not be bothered or flare up with that analogy, same way the talk of hell will not make a born again Christian flare up or be afraid because we are not doing the things that will lead us there.

I've read the Bible probably longer than you've breathed air, so save your teachings and don't digress.

After death for the Christian, it's either heaven or hell. So once in a while the possibility of ending up in hell brings up fear. Don't bother to dispute this; even if you bring it up in Sunday school tomorrow you'll get same answer.

They're adopting the advertising methods of Tecno Mobile and MTN.

4everGod:
Whats the essence when you refuse to learn from it? It was my life vs yours but you flipped the script and went all islamic on me. Did I do that?

Life is personal first before being collective. So yes it has to be personal.

Point of Correction:
It was never my life against yours. The posts can say it all.
I've seen what you were struggling for all these while. So that's what its all about for you. About who's better between us? LMAO. You've got me wrong then.
No wonder! I know you have a record of making arguments personal. You enjoy it
I don't take arguments personal. Having seen your aim for the argument this would be my last response on this issue.

honourhim:
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Folie a deux

4everGod:
Gosh! Who did this to you? So despite the answer staring you in the face you still ask this? Even with the expression "sin" and "continue in sin" you still ask this?

Smh

I asked a simple question!
Answer it or leave it

ColdHardTruth:
and they keep asking for forgiveness of sin, I wonder what they are before asking for it, probably atheist?

Then they're scared of hell because that's their fate if they fail to ask for forgiveness before death or rapture.

4everGod:
The person who asked the question is a Christian first and foremost.

Why respond to that Christian by using islam as an example when the Christian asked you for a question with direct reference to Atheism. Why did he not ask you a question with reference to Buddhism or Agnosticism?

That's because unlike you who are after my personal unbelief, I'm not after your Christian faith in particular. I simply am discussing how I differ from theists generally which YOU mentioned as 90%; with respect to my purpose.

Can't you argue without taking it PERSONAL

malvisguy212:
are you a robot ? Are you programme to repeat question after it has been answer ?

Why can't you answer YES or NO?

4everGod:
I had to take time out to explain the yes answer to you otherwise you would have asked another question if I had answered simply yes. I hope you are now satisfied.

Now that you've agreed that 'yes' a Christian can sin, if he doesn't repent and suddenly dies where does he go?
Heaven or hell?

4everGod:
The person who asked you the question you answered is he Christian or muslim? So when answering him who is a Christian why use islamic acts as an example and then clump us all together with the word THEISTS.

Now tell me were you being honest?

The person who asked the question is a theist. Our subject of discussion was on atheist and theist purpose in Life. Are Muslims not theist? Why should I omit them when I discuss theists?
When I classify Muslims as theist do you see that as dishonest?

malvisguy212:
if I sin, I am not a christian, I am a liar and a deceiver. Christian don't sin. I love post like this, this kind of post prove atheists don't really understand christianity, so, keep it up.

Stop fooling around.
Can a Christian sin?
Yes or No

4everGod:
Gods word declares "be ye perfect as I am perfect" . Every Christian strives towards perfecring the faith and our walk with God. Yes they can fall on the way but are encouraged to quickly get back up. In fact we as co believers are instructed to help them find their feet again.

The issue is not if a Christian can sin but if he can continue in sin.

A Christian never continues in sin. The moment we do sin we repent and never go back to that sin and that marks a growth towards perfection.

Only a foolish christian would continue in sin due to grace. I am sure even this simple explanation you would feign ignorance.

The question needed a 'yes' or 'no' answer.
The answer is 'yes' .
A Christian can sin; not necessarily continuing in it.
When he repents at once, God forgives him.

hopefulLandlord:
what he'll do now is create back and forth till you're tired and just say something else

he strikes me as someone who frowns behind the keyboard, here we are having fun

That's being CROOKED

4everGod:
The question there clearly says "WHY DO YOU THINK YOU ARE DIFFERENT" it was a direct question to you an Atheist. GOSH! How is it that you do not have the ability to comprehend.

And in answering that, I mentioned something I see as a flaw in some theists which is religious killings. Isn't that a way of pointing out the difference between me and them?

They kill for religious reasons, and I don't. Isn't that a difference?
What's your problem?

honourhim:
And I ask- can you move forward and backward at the same time? Simple explanation is hard for you to understand. I sorry for u o.

One can't move forwards and backwards all at once.

Now,

'Are you saying a Christian can never sin?'

4everGod:
Despiero so you cannot answer my question regarding the last time you stood up against islamic beliefs on any thread here on nairaland.

You guys are pathetic and chronic deceptive LIARS!

The subject of our argument wasn't standing up against inhuman acts by theists. STOP DIGRESSING

4everGod:
We were talking about life purpose for an ATHEIST! I asked you the question so was I talking about the world when specifically asking you a direct question. My question is still on this thread. I said " WHAT IS THE VALUE OF LIFE AS AN ATHEIST"

Stop being dishonest and stingy with the truth.

See for yourself.
By your own hands, you compared life purpose of an Atheist with that if a Theist!
Who's shying from the truth now?

honourhim:
A sinner is not a Christian and a Christian is not a sinner. You can't be on the two lanes at the same time.

I repeat.
"ARE YOU SAYING A CHRISTIAN CAN NEVER SIN?"

Respond according to your Bible o since that's your standard. Remember 'thou shall not lie'

malvisguy212:
This is one of the most stupid post I have read on this thread. Can't you see the contradiction in your post ? A christian die in the act of sin, is he a christian ? Christian DON'T SIN. If he sin, then he backslide.

Don't spew trash here!
Don't you sin as a Christian and ask for forgiveness? Does that mean you were never a true Christian? Why are you being dishonest?
Or will you rather argue that since you became a Christian you've never sinned?

hopefulLandlord:
he would give bags of air like "you guys talk a lot more about the Christian god" or something along the line

Correct! He now shifts to 'comparing of Christianity and Islam'
while we were talking of life purpose as theist and atheist in which I correctly included muslim theists.

4everGod:
Why use a muslim act to compare a christian life? You are being DISHONEST!
Am I muslim?

Would I use an agnostics acts to site and example to an Atheist?

You failed to answer my question. Since you abhor islamic killings and the fact that they can kill to further a cause and even went as far as using it as an example when dealing with a christian WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME YOU STOOD UP AGAINST ISLAM ON NAIRALAND!

All the threads and comments on any thread you have ever made on nairaland is here for all to see. So kindly give me an answer.

Like I said trying to shift the goalpost when caught will not help you so falsely branding me a liar would not help your argument because as you said, everyone is reading.

Understand English please!!. We were talking about Life Purpose as Theist and Atheist!!!

NOT

Comparison of Christian and Atheist life.

STOP THE DIGRESSIONS!

hopefulLandlord:
did you just discover he's a liar?

we are already used to it, watch as he makes a pathetic attempt at wriggling out of it

he would start digressing and digressing

Must one be right all the time? See how he lies just to uphold his argument. Oh and the digressions.
Argument is supposed to make someone open to new ideas.
Whats he struggling for?

4everGod:
I am a Christian and not Religious so your comment about killing is not referring to me o if you must attack theists who do promote killing such as you have mentioned then do so and not use that as an example when speaking to a Christian thinking you would make a point with it. When was the last time you stood up against islam? Nairaland has records of all the threads and posts you frequent so give us your answer.

I asked you to volunteer yourself to die and come back since you were bent on claiming there is no life after death and like I said if you check my next questions I was gauging your value for life which I asked you directly!

Calling me a lying bigot repeatedly wouldnt make me one as all I see is a person who is trying to shift attention through false name branding. Go back on this same thread and see where I asked you for value for life.

You never cease to amaze me. You deceive at every turn in order to sell your pathetic idea of nice atheism when we all know atheism does not mean one becomes nice or more intelligent or even more eloquent....in fact it adds nothing but a freedom to live life as you please wiyhout being accountable to anyone for any wrong you might do.

Just like one atheist said on one thread that if he can circumvent the law he would as long as he is not caught he would do so and get away with it and keep doing it. We as Christians preach against that so with or without being caught you be the first judge of your actions and see if its right or wrong based on Gods word so the thought of even commiting a crime not to mention circumventing the systen would not even come up.

This clearly shows the corrupt nature in all of you as that is a classic atheist. You only respect the law when caught but if you can get away with it you gladly would...aint that right?

I was referring to theists (y'all who believe in and worship a god) in general and not Christians in particular; not even you. Yet you're taking it so personal. Why should I exclude Muslims? Ain't they theists?
Tell me why?

I have seen the kind of person you are. Anyone following our argument with sincerity will tell who's crooked. This argument has really revealed your true self. Well done and keep it up.

honourhim:
She asked a very simple question and this is what you can answer her. Such an empty answer.

Its obvious she asked because she didn't understand so it's normal if I asked her to stick to what she understands. Or you could give her a satisfactory answer thats not empty Mr. Know All

honourhim:
And I said why use islam to defend his atheism? It means his belief in atheism is empty and lacks what it takes to defend himself. Quite a shame. I dont need to use other religion to defend my stand as a Christian.
He is not a muslim therefore he lacks competence to talk about their belief. You atheists should quit your show of shame.

I hear you!!
Oya answer his question