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Eko Ile: Bayelsa appointment was a state and official appointment while this is a private affair with zero official or constitutional bearings.

Can't you people find better and non elementary points to argue with?

You must think you're smart!

Very private indeed! You are so stup1d and you don't even know it! The post of the iyaloja general of Nigerian Market men and Women sounds very private indeed! An association that has a constitution? Yeah, couldn't get any private than that. Very dim you are! If at all she were even imposed as the iyaloja of Lagos state, does that not put her at the helms of affairs to dictate to other market women? In your twisted mind, it has to affect the organs of a state, in order for it to be political. Boy! You need to return to school!

Spinmaster!

Eko Ile: Repeat the same rubbish a million times or as much as you want, it's still bogus till you articulate clearly why this woman should be discriminated against and denied her rights because of her fathers name. Undemocratic is sidelining next in line and qualified candidiates because of their fathers name. That's unfair and unjust, we don't even play that backward and ignorant rubbish in Yoruba land, it's not part of our history, it's not part of our make up and way of life.

...and who died and made you the spokesperson for the Yoruba people? You have this air of self importance about you, don't you. Let me bring you down a peg or two. You are nothing but a political jobber, a spinmaster! That is you, that is all that you are about and no, you wouldn't know what it means to be democratic even if it slaps you in the face.

How come you haven't responded to the example I raised about patience jonathan being made the permanent secretary of bayelsa state. If Bayelsan's didn't complain about her appointment, why did hypocrites like yourself did? If it is good for the child of your oga at the top to be imposed, surely it must be good for patience, non?

Bloody hypocrite!

dayokanu: They followed their parties procedures in presenting candidates

[size=14pt]ACN has never done party primaries, WHy should it suddenly change when a Tinubu family is interested?[/size]

Waiting for a sensible take on that, You can go home and think about it to avoid embarrassing yourself as usual

Shame no dey even catch you to dey write that rubbish in bold?

Shameless sods!

Ola one: I will henceforth openly and proudly spin all PDP-related threads on this forum.

GEJ, I promise to promote you on this forum.

We're all politicians on NL so let's do it.





E ti ri n kan kan.

Even though that might be hard for me to do giving the utterly demented nature of mister president and his party, I can assure you that it would no longer be business as usual for these ACN hacks! They have had a full run on this site and majority of Yorubas fall for their rubbish but I will be one less Yoruba to allow them perpetrate that nonsense any longer.

Kilode!

Eko Ile: This is a million miles away from spinning, it's basically exposing your flawed, shallow, baseless and undemocratic BS. Who discriminate against qualified people because of their last name?

Your argument was flawed and bogus from the get go and even till this very second, you are yet to articulate any sensible reason why this wan should be denied her rights beyond your haeadache about her last name.

Oh give over! The smear follows you behind, shame you have no ability to see it! There is being a hack and being a clever hack! You cannot spin this one, dear. You have failed woefully! Flat on your face, I say!

Eko Ile: What difference does it make especially since the selection is ok with the parties involved? I'd love to see you make business or life decisions based on peoples last name and not the qualifications they bring to the table..

Did the people of Bayelsa make a fuss over the appointment of their permanent secretary? I suppose that appointment should make no difference judging by your position here?

Eko Ile: So, ethics to you mean prejudice, discrimination and denying people their rights just because their last name? Is this not even the opposite of ethics or you just don't know the meaning of ethics?


Apart from the fact that this woman's last name is Tinubu, you are yet to offer any sane and credible reason for your objection and you are also yet to show us any group within this association rejecting dissonant as their leader.


Look in the mirror for undemocratic...

Heaven would have fallen had you conceeded to me having a reason. It is you, Eko-ile, you are good at what you do, spinmaster, I deduce your role to be among the hacks.

VoodooDoll: Ìgbà kan ńlọ ìgbà kan ńbọ̀; ẹnìkan ò lo ilé ayé gbó

Tí nǹkan bá rújú, ajá a máa fa aṣọ ẹkùn ya.

Aso ekun ma ya o! O ma faya patapata ni!

hercules07: Kats and Desola

The King affirms the choice of the traders, he could disagree with their choice and pick someone else, but, if the traders do not accept such a person or if their interests are not protected, they will kick out such a person, might take time, but, they will get their way, some of these traders are also well connected, we are not talking of the iya alatas here.

Wait, so regardless of the Oba's confrered title, the traders can still kick the iyaloja out of place?

Who then adduced so much power to the Oba? Where clearly, your assertion her suggests that the king does not practically have the last say?

Apples and oranges analogy. This is a situations where a vacant position was rightfully filled with the next in line also with unanimous approval the stakeholders involved while the NGF situation remains the opposite with division from start to finish.

I am sorry but do pardon me for not buying your bullsh1t. You say that the new market leader was given a unanimous approval. Yet in the only source provided by your compatriot on this thread, it was reported that two third gave their endorsement. How that magically translate to ‘unanimous’ now beats me but then again, you’re Eko ile, so anything imaginable can be readily concocted in your mind.
As per your point regarding the succession being appropriately taken up by the next in line: well, indeed reports, provided again by your contemporaries suggest that she was the next in line but I wonder by what virtue. Oh yes! Because she is a business administration degree holder and guess what, it had nothing to do with the fact that she is a Tinubu. It is because having worked tirelessly alongside mama for so many years while acquiring the necessary experience to run a people, she was undoubtedly the prime candidate for the job. Nevermind that there are other long standing market women whom have been trading in the same market close to the same number of years mama had. But guess what again, tides have changed, suddenly, they now no longer want a ‘not so literate’ iyaloja and when they looked afield, only one lady befitted the post, yes, you guessed it, Tinubu’s daughter, why? Because someone, in 2011, seeing that his mother was on her last leg, foisted his daughter as a board member and conveniently as the next in line to succeed his own mother so that upon her death, when he makes for her daughter to succeed, it would be evidenced that she didn’t just assume the position unmeritoriously but because she was already on the board of directors. Seems clever to you, but to discerning mind, it is all to stup1d and a day light robbery. You can try to feed us your porkies all you like but the truth couldn’t be clearer than crystal! We are not fooled!

Also and unlike the NGF, we have 100% approval and support with vote of confidence and we are yet to hear about other dissatisfied market folks disagreeing and setting up their own separate or parallel association so your analogy makes no credible and logical sense from top to bottom and even lacks merit.

Did you just pull out that 100% from your black behind or is there a verifiable source? Oh, disregard that rhetorical question. You are afterall a Tinubu’s paid hack and anything concerning Lagos and figures can be easily conjured through your miraculous powers. However, you can still humour me If you wish as you have done very confidently on this forum and provide that 100% approval. I am waiting and I’m in no doubt that you will disappoint. See, that is one of the qualities I admire quite a bit in you. Very diligent when it comes to producing pictures – not so much facts and figures though, if I may add.
You know why I call you and your contemporaries evils? Because on the face of it, you seem insurmountable when you wield your lies and conjectures. You are very crafty, very crafty I say when it comes to force feeding lies. Your propaganda is next to none and not even Sincer9igeran can withstand your genius that is you. Evil does not begin to describe the minds of all you polital hackers, jobbers, call it what you will. You say that ther has been no uprising or counteracts from those who oppose. Wasn’t it on this same thread that Demdem suggested that people are far too poor to concern themselves about politics even though it concerns them primarily? In a sense, he suggested that all that Tinubu does is for the good of the people of Lagos and the he knows what he is doing. That gave me a bit of insight into how your hacks work. You clearly see the average Lagosian as one who would have to put up or shut up! It pained me when he said what he said but I saw some truth to it. Tinubu has become far too powerful that to take him headlong would be to have signed a death warrant and have a good life insurance to cater for your family once you are gone. I do not expect such people to revolt. This is a man who perhaps looked them in the faces, called their bluffs and imposed his child as the successor. Who are they to speak. Even Jonathan shivers at the sight of this monster.

The only thing driving you nuts is the Tinubu name. In our Yoruba land, we pick the bestt and the most capable candidiate just like Tinubu himself did when he picked fashola and we are all benefiting from his wisdom and great sense of judgement.

Aside your day job as an ACN hack, it appears that you have also now become ‘mystic meg’, you see and read minds otherwise, you would not know the real pain behind my opposition. Let me put you out of your misery however (though I reckon this might be far too late) and let you into a little secret. I do not give two fingers about the Tinubu name! I do however respect and admire the brain of the man behind the name and his political sagacity. Greed, greed and sheer greed is what is driving my “nuttiness”. He is a man who seem to have it all. Allegedly, he has taken so much from Lagosians (I would pre-empt you by saying you would be asking for proof) be it money and power but his greed for total control is what gets me irate! He not has taken so much he is now calling our collective bluff by imposing his family members in key positions, why? Is it because they are the most qualified persons for such posts? Oh yes, you’ll come with that crap about there having been elections of these personalities to their posts but we are not fooled. The same way Lagos was delivered to GEJ almost overwhelmingly is the same way Remi Tinubu got to becoming a senator.

Regardless of your grips and hang ups about Tinubu, you are yet to articulate what wrong was done or what crime was commoted. Obviously, you want a situation where we reject capable people and next in lines just because of their names, that's very wrong and I hope and pray we don't start doing things that way because its not only backward and corrupt, you end up denying yourself qualified and capable people just because you have shallow and sentimental issues with their last name.

I don’t remember calling this a trial for a crime which have been committed or did I? Like I explained to one of your side kicks, this is not about a broken law but about ethics and morals. It could be politically wrong if due process was not followed when she was made a board member (and I highly suspect that it wasn’t given the report that the late iyaloja during her life even conferred titles of iyaloja to other market women despite not been the oba). If there was a constitution for the market, which was breached then it still rests as a civil case and not that for the state to intervene. However, just becase something isn’t illegal or unlawful, does not make it right. Contrary to your erroneous assertion about what I want (don’t lose your day job, you are terrible at reading minds), I do not want capable people to be rejected but vehemently opposed to dictatorship, nepotism, totalitarianism and impunity! So tell me, was her grandmother not effective as a leader of the market women despite not holding these accolades that you now tout as being the qualifying factors for this lady? Did her grandmother need to attend a university to be competent in her role? Are there no other such competent older women with experience to boot? You can’t defend this, you will never succeed in your argument. You are wrong! Totally wrong and you know it but for your job description, you are forced to defend that which should not be defended.

As far as lagosioans are concerned , this is irrelevant and non issue, I don't even see them losing sleep over this issue so this remains a made up baseless a d pointless issue on your part.

Who are the Lagosians, tell me! I am a Lagosian and I tell you that it is relevant and for the future of my state, such nonsense must not continue. It might look to you that you are winning now, but it won’t be for long. You can take that to the bank!

hercules07: I do not think they are comparable, the NGF still has an election even if it is by consensus, the Iyaloja thing is more within the purview of the Oba of Lagos, either way, the market traders will kick her out if she does not improve their lot.

You seem to be a tad bit confused. On the one hand, you are maintaining that the title of 'iyaloja' is the oba's prerogative yet you assert that the power to kick the new iyaloja out remains in the hands of the market union. Tell me now, who exactly is boss? The Oba or the market union? Or are you suggesting that the title so far has not been conferred by Oba Rilwan so in other words, this young lady is in fact a market leader and not an iyaloja?

Care to clarify?

Katsumoto: On one hand, they say it was the Oba who made the decision. On the other hand, it was the constitutionally empowered members who made the decision. Which is it? A consensus still requires some kind of voting - i.e show of hands, secret ballot, etc.

I'm glad you picked him up on that, Kats.

Ufeolorun: Ye mii okun! relax!?
No amount of long winded faffs and arguments can cover up this crass case of conflict of interest and nepotism. Even if this is a unanimous decision from the market people(which I don't believe) one thing is certain,an unacceptable trend is being established in Lagos state. I believe in the Yoruba commonwealth where free movement and full participation is the bedrock but we must not allow person/people move from one end to the other, become accepted, given power and then begin to show disregard for the feelings of the natives,the mere perception that Oba of Lagos is a lackey is sickening and act like this one reinforces that unacceptable feelings.
Reminds me of Baba Wande in ti oluwa nile: Derisively saying there's no Orisa anywhere we are the Orisa so when u hear any strange voice we are the one shouting/talking
The Oba is the unseen Orisa whose voice we are purportedly hearing here

To be honest, I am perplexed!

Does anyone see the double standards displayed here when compared and contrasted against the governors forum saga?

Choi! These people are really working hard for their pay!

Father, save me from developing a high blood pressure over this matter.

All I see are evil people who would defend the indefensible by all means, however irrational it is just so they can put food on their tables.

Lord help me to be strong and protect my sanity among stup1d and demonic beings.

igbo boy: sorry my mama na ikwerre woman...nobody dey speak yorooba for my family.

your mama ik were; your papa oshi mili.

Any wonder you turned out the way you did?

I see no hope for you until rapture o.

ShyM-X:
Interesting thread...

Drunk as fvck but I thoroughly enjoyed the thread!!

Fvck it - drinks on me for a job well done by the antagonists, for putting the sycophantic pseuds where they belong.

Shyte, power belongs to the masses not the elites - thanks to all who stood up to that man's tyranny.

I did a little research about the woman in question, and she finished from Greenwich University in 2006/2007, and her husband used to play football with my uncles in Deptford. Which means she probably started her trading business a few years ago. So why's she the most eligible one for that post and not one of those who have been influential traders for eons?

Lagos is the home state!!! Dun noe!!

Out to party, yo!!

University of Greenwich?

Well, that says it all! So much for being a Tinubu!

Katsumoto: When your mother is the leader of the market women and you yourself are a proper area boy, giving the way elections are conducted in Nigeria, what chance does the opposition have? Now by making his daughter the leader of the market women, isn't he entrenching that power further?

PDP was kicked out two years ago, that utility will soon wear out with the people. Soon, they will rise against him, even if they will embrace the other evil. Tinubu may be thinking he is Awolowo; you guys better tell him, he is no Awolowo.

In any case, like Bola Ige said, na siddon look I dey.

He can never be Awolowo! His greed and dictatorial tendencies would always prevent him. Infact, I would liken him to Abacha and babangida!

Yes, the ACN are trying to worm into our hearts by changing a few things. A few infrastructures here and there for us to believe that they are better than the PDP. Once they succeed into burrowing into our psyche, we see them as the saviour, the messiah. We would have no choice but to continue voting them. Once they acquire the whole of the South west and and maybe Delta and EDo, we then start to see their real streaks. They would turn into vampires on us. Indeed I foresee them being much worse than the PDP. However, it is a shame that we do not appear to have a choice but to go into the gallows as we have tasted hell in the hands of the PDP. We are between the devil and the red sea here. Shame. I feel for Nigeria and Nigerians.

bola4dprec: may the gentle soul of Dr Shola Saraki rest in peace if it happen in Kwara Ilorin to be precise mumu people will say it would happen in lagos

Oloun ma je! Kwara people, though Yorubas by origin and language are actually closer to the Hausas in their style of living. They worship their spiritual leader like gods and go to them for handouts. Lagos Yorubas are far more enlightened. A o gba renden renden.

dayokanu: You have not made any points since, and I have been waiting for you to make one since.

What has Tinubu done wrong or what law has he infracted currently by his daughter accepting the title, or by his wife contesting an election and winning

probably because I had erroneously held you in a partially higher capacity and presumed that you would have deciphered that your question was borderline stup1d. I presumed that you should know that we were not discussing issues in the ambit of the law of the unlawfulness of what has taken place but about ethics and tradition. Indeed you might not hold Tinubu responsible for this "honour" but if it croaks like a frog, hops like a frog then there is every chance that it is indeed a frog. When it comes to the law, I would like to think that I do know my onions and throughout my standing on this issue, I have not mentioned the "unlawfulness" of this development.

Now, tell me, just because you are allowed to smoke and in the event make others passive smokers by exposing them to nicotine passively, even though they do not consent to it; does it make your act unlawful? We know that, that is not the case as you have the freedom to exercise your rights to smoke even though it is dangerous to your health and others. Just because that one act is not unlawful does not make it right or stop others from treating you disdainfully when you smoke around them.

You are trying to be clever by injecting the law into this and you know that everything is not so black and white. There are certain issues which do not fall under the ambit of the law, and this is the reason why you might find them being regarded as morally or ethically wrong. There have been many instances where even judges have found it hard to acquit defendants because they find their acts morally wrong and would state so in passing their judgement but because the particular act or ommission does not breach any laws, they have been bound to dismiss a suit or trial.

Please try if you can not to abuse our senses here. I can see through your weak arguments for this sheer display of nepotism and I really do not give a flying fauq whether you are working to fill your belly but you what you are trying to do here is to indirectly call a host of discerning minds, fools while not realising that the joke is actually on you.

I am sickened by the posts of dayokanu. Very sad day to realise that I have been fraternising with the enemies of the people. It is a sad day indeed and to come to a stark but shocking observation that the Yorubas are walking with eyes wide open into new age slavery. I am deeply saddened!

I have a feeling that ACN would indeed be worse than PDP.

Something has got to give. We need to start listening to Tunde Bakare more.

These people are devourers!

dayokanu: Tinubu doesnt have the power to put anyone in presidency and Senate Just like the Bush and Kennedy. The best they can do is nominate and support just Like Tinubu does

Everyone Tinubu selects still have to go through general elections as far as I know.

So if you have a party named XYZ and select your brothers, the onus is on the electorates to accept them or reject them

if electorates accepts all from one family then what have you done wrong?

ACN as a party does not do primaries I would think people have an option to choose parties who do primaries if thats what they want

Oh my gawd!!!![b][/b]

musiwa24: so he has taken the decision.. what does it matter ,, it does not affect how people vote.. so why are you so bother... about that... Do you want to be the iya loja of lagos.. what is your problem about iya loja..

Yes, I want to be the iyaloja of Lagos that is why I am hurt. Can you tell the Oba to change his mind and make me one instead? I know you are very powerful in the affairs of Lagos even though you are from republic du Benin.

Please beg Oba for me. I will send you two bags of ofada rice if successful in the mission.

Musiwa, is it Yoruba culture to exhalt a 25yr old over older women? Is that Yoruba culture or idiots culture?

musiwa24: you are insulting yoruba culture when you do this. and we dont take nice for you to insult a yoruba king by bring a mere politician above the kings,.

like i warn you. let it be the last time , i see that useless post of tinubu picking the iya loja of lagos..

It is only the oba of lagos that can pick the iya loja of lagos.

Musiwa, why are you ignoring me?

musiwa24: maxy: Tinubu has no power in Yorubaland...it only the Oba that appoint By Musiwa

i even have more power than tinubu.. you see the oba of lagos.. you are shouting.. I can advise him, who he should pick as the next iya oloja of lagos.. You can go and ask .

Please can you advise akiolu to rescind his decision?

Keep speculating. Na for your eyes Remi go become governor.

talktimi: excuse me, if you read and comprehend my post carefully, you will notice that i didnt even slightly insult you but rather said people should respect your right to your opinions.

Thank you,

igbo boy: Story story story.
I am an oshimili man, sorry we dont do tales by the moonlight.such as olodo-wa being superman that came from above...

Back to the issue at hand berra respect EMPEROR Tinubu...if you like cry like monkey, his daughter is the oga of the traders association already and there is nothing you can do about it. if e pain you decamp go APGA

Na that same 'Oshi' go follow you reach grave.

Say amen!

dayokanu: Has Tinubu done anything wrong or violated any law here is the point.

There was a time in US when George Bush(Whose father was a Senator) was President, His first son was Governor of Texas (later president) his second son was Governor of Florida

2 of the 5 biggest states in the country

Was there any wrong doing in the scenario.

Several Kennedy's have been political office holders in the past decades

Is there any wrong doing in any of these?

Similar to Tinubu having his wife and Inlaw in Political positions which they were elected into and His daughter appointed

See reasoning!

I shake my head!

Clearly we are in for a veeeeerrry long ride!

igbo boy: hmmm ofe nmanu and bragging....maching gun ko, machine gun ni....Liver gree you hold stick talkless of gun..mstchewwww

Be proud of your village abeg must everybody claim lagos..AKure is more serene than lagos...

Lastly, you a re warned, dont slander the great EMPEROR Tinubu. No say i no warn you..Dayokanu will take care of you

The zoo keeper left a cage unlocked. That explains why this jackal is out here.

talktimi: All you guys attacking Desola should realize she has a right to her views which in this case are popular. We cant give a dog a bad name just because we want to hang it (Desola), nepotism will always be nepotism & this lady speaks the truth.

Oi! You!

Who is a dog? What kind of praise garnished with insult is this? O so si mi lenu o tun buyo si. O ga o!