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@ Abuzola


If Muhammad said bell is from satan, could his revelations come from satan. He said he receives revelations like the ringing of bell.

Al Hadis, Vol. 4, p. 359,

Ayesha reported that Haresah-b-Hisham asked the Apostle of Allah and said, "O Apostle, how does revelation come to you?" [size=16pt]The Apostle of Allah responded, "Sometimes it comes to me like the ringing of a bell, "
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My thesis holds, that the man was a false prophet. An Ishmealite - a prophet? haba!

O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers(non-muslims) who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him).

Qur'an 9:123

Peace ?

Was your prophet a man of peace or a warrior? How many battles did he personally participated in ? How many did he send his boys? Did he raid caravans for gold? Can you love me, a christian and not kill me during jihad? Can you love your enemies and pray for them who despitefully use you? Are muslims peace loving people?

@Abuzola

Your prophet was an illiterate 6th century caravan trader. Most of the things he thought were utterly absurd. Imagine this:

Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet said, "Allah likes sneezing and dislikes yawning, so if someone sneezes and then praises Allah, then it is obligatory on every Muslim who heard him, to say: May Allah be merciful to you (Yar-hamuka-l-lah). But as regards yawning, it is from satan, so one must try one's best to stop it, if one says 'Ha' when yawning, satan will laugh at him."

Sahih Bukhari 8:73:242


Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah's Apostle said, "During your sleep, Satan knots three knots at the back of the head of each of you, and he breathes the following words at each knot, 'The night is, long, so keep on sleeping,' If that person wakes up and celebrates the praises of Allah, then one knot is undone, and when he performs ablution the second knot is undone, and when he prays, all the knots are undone, and he gets up in the morning lively and gay, otherwise he gets up dull and gloomy. "

Sahih Bukhari 4:54:491



Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah's Apostle said, "A prostitute was forgiven by Allah, because, passing by a panting dog near a well and seeing that the dog was about to die of thirst, she took off her shoe, and tying it with her head-cover she drew out some water for it. So, Allah forgave her because of that."


The Prophet said, "Fever is from the heat of Hell, so abate fever with water."

Sahih Bukhari 7:71:621



Narrated AbuSa'id al-Khudri: The people asked the Messenger of Allah (peace be upon him): Can we perform ablution out of the well of Buda'ah, which is a well into which menstrual clothes, dead dogs and stinking things were thrown? He replied: Water is pure and is not defiled by anything.

Sahih Muslim 1:66

Spirit in that context means "the spirit operating in that man". for instance, many christians believe that muhammad spoke by a demon spirit or his own spirit.

Kindly answer Sleeks question about the protion of your quran that was eaten by goat. Was it later recovered? What verse was that? Is your Quran then complete?

@Abuzola

Here is an authentic hadeeth to let you know that your prophet attenpted suicide. Confirm it from your hadith.


Sahih  Bukhari, Vol. 9, number 111.


But after a few days Waraqa died and the Divine Inspiration was also paused for a while and the Prophet became [size=14pt]so sad as we have heard that he intended several times to throw himself from the tops of high mountains and every time he went up the top of a mountain in order to throw himself down,[/size] Gabriel would appear before him and say, "O Muhammad! You are indeed Allah's Apostle in truth" whereupon his heart would become quiet and he would calm down and would return home. And whenever the period of the coming of the inspiration used to become long, [size=14pt]he would do as before, but when he used to reach the top of a mountain, Gabriel would appear before him and say to him what he had said before.[/size]

Don't be crazy, we have Abubakar and khadija and the king of unbelievers Abu jahl witnessing the dividing of the moon and many more wonder

Does anyone question Muhammad? Moreover, you chose only this one. What about other issues I raised? Suicide, Mental health (trying to sound accomodating), Seizures(warapa)?

@ MUhsin

Religion should not be judged by the practice of some of its followers.

True saying. Rather, it should be judged by the life style of the leader. On this Muhammad failed, because  the hadith records that he suffered from a mental condition that made him think he had sex with his wives when he actually did not. Na wah for this kind prophet o wey dem come whinch like this! May be that was the reason he thought that that disembodied being that gave in message was Gabriel. Imagine, Angel Gabriel asking Muhammad to wipe out the Jews! That shows that the being was the Jews enemy- Satan. Clearly, Gabriel will be on the Jews side, and not on the side of people who drink other people's blood.


Anobi ni "I smile when I Kill"

Is it true that allah's apostle used to believe that he did somethings whereas he never did it? If true,  is there a possibility that the problem may have made him to include things like slicing the moon into two, flying to jerusalem by night, the story of Solomon speaking with ants, the satanic verse, several suicide attempt,  etc

@Abuzola

Does satan really stay in muslims noses during the night according to the hadith?

Everyone has right to his/her own opinion. Why did he not fight the pagan meccans during his early ministry? Was it not because he had not acquired the military strength to attack? People stood against jesus, he did not order his disciples to fight. He even taught that they shloud not revenge. But Muhammed, killed bint marwan, a blind woman. He raided caravan traders for gold. History is there.

Olabowale

It is not a cultural issue. Islam is about wars and more wars. The prophet said he lives under the shadow of his sword. Moreover, I have told you what the islmic haad on this issue is. The hadith records are there. He killed innocent people. I will not forget the case of the old woman that composed satirical poems about Muhammed. Will you murder for Islam?

How come he grew old. How come Roland and his siblings are fighting over his vast estate? Don't hide under any cover of God giving me understanding. Don't I read the newspaper? My bros. you need to come out of that place and go for deliverance immediately.

watch this video you will run http://www.answeringmuslims.com/2008/03/geert-wilderss-fitna.html

No. God forbids.

May God deliver us from Dis-illusioned leader.

@Olabowale

You Nezan must have a young child's mind! Did Yahweh write the Torah? Did Jehovah write the Psalm? Did Eloi write the Gospel? Think, man and stop being silly to the point of being ridiculous, considering that you are in Abuja, probably a Fed staff?

Oga mi ! You seem not to know that the quran was written in heaven. Read this hadith.

Volume 9, Book 93, Number 643:

Narrated Abu Huraira:

I heard Allah's Apostle saying, "Before Allah created the creations, He wrote a Book (wherein He has written): My Mercy has preceded my Anger." and that (Book) is written with Him over the Throne."

What book is been refered to here?

@ Send me

Holy spirit does not die.
Olumba is a human being and he is dead and has been buried in biakpan. Don't lie to us

@Muhsin

First of all, my name is not Mushin as you've been writing, but Muhsin. Take note.

Note. Thanks for the correction.

Won't proceed here unless you answer this question to me: do you really believe Jesus (pbuh) as prophet/demigod/god?

I believe that Jesus was a Prophet and also the Son of God on account of the Jewish Torah(taurat) and the writings of other prophets of old.

Oneness of God is the most important of all these messages. I also want your sincere answer here: do you believe in oneness or triune of God?

I believe in the oneness of God. Both Allah not "allah" and Yahweh are one and the same. The God presented by Muhammed is not the true God. My reasons are the absurdity of muhammed's teachings. looks like he did not really know God. Here are some of them:

Mumammed received revelations to justify his marriage with his adopted son after he accidentally saw the wifes unclothedness.
He taught that angels do not enter a house that has a picture or a dog in it.
He ordered that dogs and house lizards should be killed.
He said when a rooster crows that muslims should ask allah for blessing because the rooster had seen an angel.
He said when a horse brays that mulims should seek refuge with allah because it saw satan.
He said when muslims perform the ablution that they should wash there nose three times because satan stays in the upper part of the nose.

According to vol. 2, no. 443, Muhammad said that people are tortured in hellfire because they soil themselves with urine.
1. You must not face Mecca when urinating or defecating (vol. 1, nos. 146, 147, 150, 151).
There a more absurd teachings that muslims can not defend, many of them now know that muhammed was not a true prophet after all. I will prepare more of such teachings with refences so you can look up the hadiths for yourself. Do not believe me until you see the hadiths pls.

Mark 12:28-29
28And one of the scribes came, and heard them questioning together, and knowing that he had answered them well, asked him, What commandment is the first of all? 29Jesus answered, The first is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God, the Lord is one: 30and thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength.

1 John 5:7

For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

Qur'an mentions names of 25 messengers and prophets. Nearly all of them were Israels. But did God ever make any promise that He would not send any other prophet apart from there? Where?

No. However, it is one of those things that makes one suspicious of an Arabian prophet. Why did God suddenly change?

Muslims believe in all prophets sent by God; Christian don't believe in Muhammad (pbuh) and Jews reject Jesus and Muhammad (pbuthem).

I believe in the Old testatement prophets, I do not believe that Muhammed was from God. Ask me my reasons and I shall humbly provide them. Muslims do not really believe those prophet.

If they believe, then Islam should have been a continuation of prophetic traditions. Alas, it is not so.

True christians do not worship jesus nor trinity because jesus himself worship God,

Christians are the followers of christ, are my right?
Jesus claimed He was God :

John 10:30-33
30I and the Father are one. 31The Jews took up stones again to stone him. 32Jesus answered them, Many good works have I showed you from the Father; for which of those works do ye stone me? 33The Jews answered him, For a good work we stone thee not, but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.


It is on this basis that we worship Him. Imagine, a 30 something year old man being worshiped by much older people, yet he did not rebuke them because he knew he deserved worhip as God. Imagine, those old men and women, calling this young man Lord, yet he accepted it, not out of pride, but because God took upon him human flesh and lived among his people just as the prophets have foretold, that we might not need to sacrifice Lamb like muslims do every "Ileya". Do you know it is not everyone that can afford the ram? Thank God for calvary!

@ All

Muhammd contradicted himself! Here christian will enter paradise, next they will not enter. Which one will I follow if I'm a Muslim? Oh hhhhhhh, our "prophet" is creating more confusion for us. Don't believe these verses until you have read them on www.quranexplorer.com

Believers, Jews, Sabaeans and Christians -
whoever believes in God and the Last Day and does what is right -
shall have nothing to fear or regret.
-- Sura 5:69


Surprisingly, he forgot what he had said before, you know why, they were not written down.

Unbelievers are those that say:
"God is the Messiah, the son of Mary." For the Messiah himself said:
"Children of Israel, serve God, my Lord and your Lord."
He that worships other gods besides God, God will deny him Paradise,
and the fire shall be his home. None shall help the evil-doers.
-- Sura 5:72

Sura 69:41, 42 say, "It [the Quran] is no poet's speech: scant is your faith! It is no soothsayer's divination: how little you reflect! It is revelation from the Lord of the Universe.

Here Muhammad is saying to his critics that he really saw an angel, and his words are not from a devil, or from his own imagination. No doubt the people living at that time thought he was inspired by a devil, so Muhammad spoke these words, in the Quran, in self defense.

Moreover, the fact that people thought the man was using the spirit of divination was born out of how the reveletions came. Some time it will be as if he was convulsing, infact, you need to check out a number of hadiths on that.

smile

Agreed he was cured, of course the problem lasted for about a year!. Do you know it had a profound effect on him?

It is a man who passed through what Muhammad passed through that can behave the way he did. Read for yourself. Murder, Innocent people's Blood, Death, Violence, ah, your prophet?



1. The Murder of Ibn Sunayna

From Guillaume, "The Life of Muhammad", page 369:

"The apostle said, "Kill any Jew that falls into your power." Thereupon Muhayyisa b. Masud leapt upon Ibn Sunayna, a Jewish merchant with whom they had social and business relations, and killed him. Huwayyisa was not a Muslim at the time though he was the elder brother. When Muhayyisa killed him Huwayyisa began to beat him, saying, 'You enemy of God, did you kill him when much of the fat on your belly comes from his wealth?' Muhayyisa answered, 'Had the one who ordered me to kill him ordered me to kill you I would have cut your head off.'"

2. The Murder of Umm Qirfa

From Guillaume, page 665:

", and Umm Qirfa Fatima was taken prisoner. She was a very old woman, wife of Malik. Her daughter and Abdullah Masada were also taken. Zayd ordered Qays to kill Umm Qirfa and he killed her cruelly (Tabari, by putting a rope to her two legs and to two camels and driving them until they rent her in two.)

can you give the sickeness a polite name?

@Abuzola

Go and meditated deeply upon what the prophet suffered. I know you might be very much angry if I use the word "nsnty" to describe it. Note that we are talking of the "mental state" of a man of God!

God save me from a prophet that had a "mental condition" such that he thought he had sex with his wives

Can you ever read and understand? Where is it mentioned that Muhammad was a sinner in that verse?

Whoever lives or make practise of sin is a sinner. That is the difference between the sinner and a saint. Holiness unto the lord is expected of a genuine prophet.

Consider what Muhammad a prophet suffered.


Narrated Aisha: Magic was worked on Allah's Apostle so that he used to think that he had sexual relations with his wives while he actually had not. (Bukhari, and read the hadith below this linked one.) Please read for yourself here http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/crcc/engagement/resources/texts/muslim/hadith/bukhari/071.sbt.html


Why should my "prophet" suffer this kind of problem? Could it also be this same influence that made him lived such a violent life?

@ Mushin

Don't ever expect Jesus's sermon, call, etc in any Hadeeth for hadeeth does not contain such.
Thanks for hitting the nail straight on the head.

Now, if Muslims believe that Jesus was a great Prophet (which is true) and a highly respected one at that, why do they ignore his “Sunna” (The Gospels) as recorded by his own companions (Apostles), Just as the hadeeths are the records of the sayings and deeds of Muhammad.?

The message of the prophets was ONE message:

What other message apart from the oneness of GOD did they preach? How many of such Israel's prophet do you know? Were there Arabian prophets among them?

If you believe that they were sent by God, will you neglect any of their message which is complex to understand?


I need your sincere answer.

Thanks.

To Abuzola

God save Abuzola from the spirit of ignorance and from the veil that is covering his eyes. (Amen).  Now I understand why w need to pray earnestly for the perishing. Look at you, you are seeing another thing, when the font of my text was even highlighted!
You mean you did not notice how your prophet honoured the Torah and declared FAITH in it?


Lord every spirit of divinely inspired ignorance standing in the way of these people, I command such spirit to leave them in JESUS name.(Amen)
Thank you Lord. Why should they perish even when there is Grace? Lord, for your mercies sake.

My brothers, you do not read your Quran . Look your prophet was a sinner. It is recorded in the Quran. How can a sinner be a righteous man?

Quran 47:19
So know (O Muhammad) that there is no God save Allah, and ask forgiveness for thy sin and for believing men and believing women. Allah knoweth (both) your place of turmoil and your place of rest.

My bible tells me that the wicked runneth when no man pursues him.

Ezekiel 18:4b
"The soul who sins shall die"

[size=14pt]You need mercy for your sins, and you can only get it when you accept jesus for who he truly is[/size]

You are contradicting your prophets actions and teachings as regards Torah (Old Testament)



Narrated Abdullah Ibn Umar:

A group of Jews came and invited the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) to Quff. So he visited them in their school.

They said: AbulQasim, one of our men has committed fornication with a woman; so pronounce judgment upon them. They placed a cushion for the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) who sat on it and said: Bring the Torah. It was then brought. [size=14pt]He then withdrew the cushion from beneath him and placed the Torah on it saying: I believed in thee and in Him Who revealed thee. [/size]He then said: Bring me one who is learned among you. Then a young man was brought. The transmitter then mentioned the rest of the tradition of stoning similar to the one transmitted by Malik from Nafi' (No. 4431)." (Sunan Abu Dawud, Book 38, Number 4434)



You do not obey nor follow the teachings of your own prophet who himself was inconsistent about his doctrine.

@Uplawal

You are following someone who is not sure of wether God will admit him into paradise or not. He was even afraid at an eclipse of the sun, thinking it was the hour of judgement.

Why was he afraid if his works were Ok?