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raumdeuter:
We are also not created equal. Some people have a greater bandwidth for trouble than you

I no fit let person use bottle design my face and have to explain to parents, future employers, future business partners, inlaws and embassies what happened to me.

If na person wey get something to lose or not. A known thug that already has nothing to lose no be person wey you wan follow enter trouser IMO. He does not have your goals,

Imagine say na Kabaka or McOluomo of 20yrs ago dey Wan obtain you, will you rather become his ATM for that day and start avoiding him or drag with him and the likely consequences

That driver, Agbero thug can escalate to levels you can't keep up with either because your power no reach am or you have way more to lose immediately and in future

I’m sorry, but I’d rather die standing on my feet than let my mate extort me. I’m not the strongest, and I don’t even like getting into certain situations—but oppression? That’s a hard no. Could never be me.

If you ask me nicely, I go drop for you. But you no go ever use force obtain me….unless you point gun for my head naim remain.

raumdeuter:
I am normally a pacifist and run away from trouble

E get one Ileya like that for Naija about 20yrs ago. Tkb and I dey beer parlor na so some boys start confra bragging which quickly escalated to fight, bust bottle. Etc

Na me first run out reach the bus stop. Na when I dey bus stop I see say dem don order backup coming on bikes

Later that night when tkb saw me he just dey laugh me cos he sat there through the melee and say why will anyone come near am when dem no dey mad

Me I don flee from every appearance of madness but I can understand those who stand their ground

Bro, I’m guessing you were already working your bank job when this happened. Also, you need to understand that once someone takes money from you by force in a school setting, you’ve automatically become their personal ATM.

I love peace—but the moment you put your hand in my eye, that’s when you and I will wear the same pair of trousers.

Theflint1:
I think the point that was being made wasn't even about standing ground, it was more...since it's near certain you can't get financial compensation from Danfo driver, you should start fighting with them, or beat them if you can.

If you meet a Danfo driver that leaves you no choice but to fight, of course you'd fight, but reality is that you're most likely going to have other options to handling the situation.

Situation wey you and Danfo dey drag space for road and you notice the guy no wan back down, best thing na to give them space, cause those guys no really care if their car bash. I sure say Diggz go be one of those wey no dey wan gree for Danfo because e know say if e come down to am e go bloodly their nose

Why not start by naming the other options you think could’ve been used to handle the situation?

There’s a reason Blueray immediately begged the woman—someone who clearly couldn’t physically fight him. It was to deescalate the situation. You can’t drive recklessly, hurl insults at someone, damage their property, and then continue insulting them without making any effort to calm things down—and still expect to walk away freely.

By the way, I don’t understand why you’re trying to change the narrative of my story. Do you even know Ilupeju Road that leads to Onipanu Junction? Or the streets I mentioned in Gbagada? If you did, there’s no way you’d be creating a different version of events.

Your only options are: stay in your lane and get your car damaged, end up in a gutter, or hit someone on the side. But somehow you want to give “Danfo” drivers room—how exactly?

You be saint obi?

Theflint1:
I'm not saying I can't ruff it up with someone if it comes to it, but that'd likely be after I've exhausted other options. E even get how you fit rough am up with person without it having to get to where you're exchanging blows.

You still no answer the question sha.

diggz:
Dey play! You never jam anything bro 😂

Now let me paint a scenario for you:

Let’s say you have a childhood acquaintance — someone you grew up with on the same estate, attended the same secondary school with, and now both of you are in university. In terms of university level, you’re three years ahead of him because you got in earlier. This guy has always been big — size and weight-wise — and much larger than you. You’ve never had any issues with him, and you’ve always treated him fairly.

Now here’s where things get interesting:

One day, you and some uni friends are eating at a restaurant just outside campus. Then this guy walks up to you and starts asking for money — but not in a way that suggests he really needs it, more like he’s trying to intimidate or obtain it from you by force. At first, you assume he’s joking. But then he starts putting his hands in your pocket.

How would you react?

Theflint1

PDPGuy:
I really don’t want to believe that Osimhen has agreed to move to Saudi Arabia in his prime 🙆🏽‍♂️

Money na your mate? Money na water!!!!!!!!!

drisham:
Still images and wrong angle


Please drop a gif of it

Sorry, but that’s the standard of evidence we use to run analysis here. However, if you’re convinced he couldn’t have done better, I’d suggest watching the highlights on YouTube—pay close attention to around the 2:45 mark when it happened.

iamoyindamola:
Na why I always tell you to drink cold water or hug transformer to calm your temper

You wey I sabi. Your body go hot pass my own sef lol

WhoDeyHause:
I initially thought petrovic or even Jorgensen would take over after this season from that baba ijebu agent but it's funny to see us still going after another keeper after signing battalions of them every eke market day. Another wahala is Mike seems to have constant injury issues and considering the fact he's getting older I just hope we won't have to suffer what we've been getting with skippo. Putting all that aside he'll be a good addition especially for champe but we'll need to offload at least one keeper after kepa.

Maybe they should let Petrovic continue developing where he is for now, since they’ve decided the chronic gambler isn’t leaving.

Mike, the chronic gambler, and Jorgensen should be enough.
-Mike for the Premier League
-Jorgensen and Mike for the Champions League
-The chronic gambler for any other competition

izzou:
[color=royalblue]Like Gloriousgbola said, Blueray and Flint must have personal drivers or drive in very sane places.

This Lagos

A bike man once hit me while I was trying to make a turn. Every car stopped for me, but he didn't see me because of the speed. He ran into my car and fell in a gutter.

If not for the cars that stopped and few road sellers who stood by me and defended my position, his whole group almost bullied me to carry him to the hospital and fix his bike.
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You see Danfo drivers, Okada riders, and Keke people… bro, fear them o!

I have a cousin who had an accident involving a Keke rider. The Keke rider was clearly at fault, but because my cousin was driving one of those luxury Toyotas now worth ₦15 million in today’s market, a crowd quickly gathered and started threatening him. Out of concern for the Keke rider—who, by the way, had no visible injuries—my cousin offered to take him to the hospital. That’s when the real wahala started.

They began demanding that he buy a brand-new Keke. Luckily, the accident happened right in front of a filling station between Warri and Eku, several years ago. The owner of the station, who happened to be a local and spoke the language, quickly intervened—just in time too, because the Mopol stationed at the filling station had already cocked his gun in support of the Keke man and was threatening my cousin.

The station owner ordered the Mopol to step back and addressed the crowd. He told them that my cousin had already shown more than enough goodwill by agreeing to take the Keke man to the hospital, and that anything beyond that wasn’t his responsibility. He also instructed another Mopol to escort my cousin to the hospital, stay until payment was made for the man’s checkup, then follow him to Eku and return. He firmly warned both the Keke man and the Mopol that if anything happened to my cousin, they would be held accountable.

That’s how my cousin got out of the situation unharmed—physically, at least. Mentally and financially? Completely drained.

WhoDeyHause:
Mike is great forget all the trolling wey we dey do bro but the problem is goalkeeping wasn't really a major area to strengthen considering we have gbanchez, petrovic, Jorgensen, penders and slonina to choose from. I don't know even know why we don't want to sign an experienced winger or striker but can now break protocols for a keeper who'll be 30 next month.

It’s clear that Maresca and the board don’t trust any of the current options to be our first-choice goalkeeper. For some reason, Maresca rates Chronic gambler above everyone else, which is why they’re looking to bring in an experienced keeper like Mike.

izzou:
[color=royalblue]Danfo drivers are very manipulative.

If a private car hits me, I am willing to let go. But I must make sure a danfo driver pays me something, even if I go use the money drink beer.

There's a way they can get on your nerves, and still try to make it look like you're at fault, or they are dying and cannot pay anything.[/color]

I don look one private person finish after the guy hit my car…I even dash am small thing to fix him car because e clear say the guy was going through a lot. But you see those Danfo guys can bring out the demon in a saint.

GloriousGbola:
the danfo driver diggz beat up may be collecting the slap of the last 20 danfo drivers that got away.

The first one na because I feel say him endanger my life and others plus him damage my car too.

The second one attempted to run after damaging my car, I blocked him….na so the guy commot from insulting me to throwing punch, so I took him out sharply.

Maybe like flint suggest I for keep things moving sha

drisham:
It was not a tap in

And he wasn't not in front of goal

He basically did well to square the ball from such a tight angle

Sorry, square which ball? You sure say you sabi the situation I dey refer to bro?

Na who Madueke dey square that ball to instead of scoring for the attached photos?

Theflint1:
Chances are it won't get to the point where the driver feels the need to throw the first punch, cause the first couple words is tending towards deescalation strictly on the issue at hand. The matter fit still drag o, but it would be hard for it to tend towards fighting...people that are fighters would always fight and they'd say it's the other person, when in truth it's as much about them as it is about the other person.

I still dey get brain spark once once, but it's very rare.

Dey play! You never jam anything bro 😂

Now let me paint a scenario for you:

Let’s say you have a childhood acquaintance — someone you grew up with on the same estate, attended the same secondary school with, and now both of you are in university. In terms of university level, you’re three years ahead of him because you got in earlier. This guy has always been big — size and weight-wise — and much larger than you. You’ve never had any issues with him, and you’ve always treated him fairly.

Now here’s where things get interesting:

One day, you and some uni friends are eating at a restaurant just outside campus. Then this guy walks up to you and starts asking for money — but not in a way that suggests he really needs it, more like he’s trying to intimidate or obtain it from you by force. At first, you assume he’s joking. But then he starts putting his hands in your pocket.

How would you react?

Ibime:
Flint wey say by breaking the Danfo glass. he could have severed a major artery in his hand and died. See where him mind dey go. A pacifist will look for any excuse not to fight

BlueRay wey dey shout about one-way drivers since like pesin wey dey work for Road Safety, he no notice say Adefarasin dey drive without number plate.

As in Ehn 😂😂😂

Flint is a Benin boy, so I was surprised when he mentioned something about a major artery in his hand and dying. I’m guessing he grew up in a very sheltered environment and was never really exposed to the rough side of Benin life.

As for Blueray, being an only child and having all that protection growing up has definitely shaped his perspective on life and influenced the way he reacts to things too.

Ibime:
His mother is Jamaican, their blood dey hot like Diggaman own

My blood dey hot when another man like me tries to oppress me — that’s just the truth. But to be fair to Blueray and Flint, they also have a point. For me, I usually chalk my reactions up to being petty — like going low/lower when someone else goes low in certain situations.

At the end of the day, my conclusion is that both Blueray and Flint are far better humans than I am! 😂

Chronic gambler jazz must be extremely strong!!! Hafa Westham/porter abeg make una do quick epp us!!

BlueRayDick:
I have already pointed out why I think his temperamental . His reaction to the danfo incident clearly shows that .

A danfo driver bashes his car and he ended up smashing the danfo windshield . Did he do that out of joy or anger ?

You and I don’t know bro. But I get your point still

Theflint1:
This was your original post about beating up the driver's

Put as simply as you're now putting it, chances are higher I'd walk away than engage in any sort of physical altercation...Wetin concern me na the car wey dem bash and we know these guys have zero interest in fixing cars they bash...if they're not begging, they're resorting to fight.

I made that post without going into too much detail. You also highlighted where I said the driver thought he could beat me up. Since you’ve already decided that you would have walked away, my question is: if the driver threw the first punch, would you still have walked away? If yes, then you’re definitely a better person than I am.

BlueRayDick:
If u feel offended by my post , I apologized .

I was speaking in general terms and not specifically to u. The two incidents u narrated u were involved in , the truth is as a third party who was not involved in the incident all I see was u acting in the heat of the matter with adrenaline rushing . U were visibly angry .

Once again I apologize if u feel offended by my position on this .

Ah, vex ke? No now — vex never enter o! Haba, no need to apologise abeg, you and I are just having a normal, civil conversation. I’m only trying to point out that you may not have the full picture in every instance, so your conclusions might not be entirely accurate.

Abeg, I no vex. If my tone came off a bit direct/strong, I apologise too — it’s just normal Warri blood talking. No hard feelings at all. Bless up, bro 👊

BlueRayDick:
You need to go back to my initial reply to u on this matter . I clearly said I don’t judge u .

I only state fact that if one’s reflex action to provocation of that sort is to resort to violence or show of force , one definitely is temperamental . It means it takes very little to rile that person up .

At no point did I talk about oppression. I never said Paul Adefarasin oppressed the danfo guy neither did I claim he oppressed the luxury car paparazzi he brandished the taser gun at . All I said was that he is clearly temperamental and seem to be a man fast given to anger .

And I ended up saying he should go for anger management class .

Have u ever thought if things had gone out of hand what would’ve happened ? I mean if the glass particles from the windshield had found its way into one of the passengers’ eyes and the person goes blind from the incident . Do u think anybody will remember the name of the danfo driver who bashed Paul’s car in the first place ? No. Paul’s name will be everywhere for causing an innocent person’s blindness

I don’t think you’re keeping up with the convo here, bro. You claimed Adefarasin is temperamental based on his reaction to the Danfo driver.

I disagreed and used my own experience as a reference — and you then concluded that I must be hot-tempered too.

Now, I’m simply asking you to explain how you arrived at that conclusion in my case, while also pointing out that you weren’t present during Adefarasin’s incident. So you can’t say for certain that he has temper issues without knowing the full context of what actually happened.

Theflint1:
The manner in which you react to provocation is also indicative of an anger problem.

Every interaction has what can be described as an "appropriate" response, and if your response consistently deviates from what's appropriate, you just might have an anger problem.

Agreed! Now explain how you would react if a Danfo driver damaged your vehicle and then also tried to beat you up.

BlueRayDick:
1. The Adefarasin vs Danfo driver issue happened in 2023 , so ur 14 years ago experience about danfo drivers is totally irrelevant to this discourse . We are talking about him being involved in a road rage in 2023 with a danfo driver not 14 years ago . So if u want to use danfo drivers behavior of 14 years ago to score a point over an issue that happened less than 2 years ago , I really don’t see that point sticking here .

2. Anybody that goes about smashing other people’s windshield following an accident is an angry and most likely a violent person by default . Whether na danfo driver or private car driver u smash his vehicle following an accident , it only means have a taking temper .

3. I still had my vehicle hit in Christmas Day ; I mean 2024 Christmas Day. A Danfo driver was trying to negotiate his way out after the vehicle in his front stopped ( maybe due to a fault or the driver forgot the traffic has moved ). I kept honking for him to stop reversing but it was just as if he was possessed and wanted to bash my car at all cost and he did. I was pissed like every other person would be , particularly when u consider the fact that I bought the car few months before the incident . Guess what ? I didn’t go about smashing his vehicle even though he wasn’t uncooperative going by the words coming out of his mouth and his body language . I had to let go. My insurance fixed the car eventually .

4. I’m not judging him based off one incident . My initial post to Ibime which u quoted was pointing it out that the man certainly has anger issues which a clergy should not be known for . I mean a clergy who preaches forgiveness , paying good with evil and being peacemakers should not be smashing people’s windshield and brandishing taser gun inside a posh and highly secured part of Lagos ; Ikoyi

1) My incident from 14 years ago is very much relevant to this conversation — especially since you used it to label me as temperamental.

2) So, anyone who reacts by smashing someone’s property after their own property has been damaged is suddenly the problem — according to Judge Blueray? In my second example, I clearly mentioned that the Danfo driver not only damaged my car but also thought he could beat me up. But instead of asking more questions to understand what really happened, you jumped straight to labeling me as temperamental. Since you’re clearly a saint, I assume that if a Danfo driver damaged your car and then tried to beat you up on top of it, you’d take the beating gracefully — and even thank him for not being temperamental.

3 & 4) Could you clarify what else you based your “temperamental” label on — besides an incomplete post I made today without full context? Or am I right to assume that the arguments I’ve had here on NL influenced your conclusion?

BlueRayDick:
Can u please port out the very place he said he was at fault for the incident that resulted in his car being bashed ?

E be like say na wetin Dey ur mind u Dey respond to, not what i posted

But I gave you examples from my own experience, and you labeled me temperamental. I’m also guessing that the arguments I’ve had here on NL may have influenced your judgment. That said, I challenge you to point out a single instance where I started any of those fights. In fact, in all the cases, I was relentlessly attacked for months — sometimes even years — and my family was dragged into it before I ever fought back.

I even forgot to mention a third incident that happened just last year after I returned from a trip. My brother came to pick me up from the airport, and we had escorts with us. It was supposed to be a routine drive until a Danfo driver overtook us from the wrong side, hit our car, and sped off. Although the escort vehicle was ready to chase him down, we told them to let it go and just kept moving.

Now imagine if the escort had chased the Danfo, cut him off, and maybe even handed him a few slaps — as they likely would have. If that story was told to you without context, I’m almost certain you’d say the Danfo driver was being oppressed, without knowing what really happened.

KingTom:
You be true Lagos Boy

Bro, you don’t cure a madman’s madness with civility — especially in Lagos. You have to apply equal or even greater madness to match theirs and settle the matter. That’s how I met the situation, and that’s exactly how it still is.

izzou:
[color=royalblue]You haven't said what transpired, before concluding he has anger issues.

Lagosians are very quick to label the one with the more expensive car as "Wicked" or "at fault", whenever there's an accident between a rich and a poor man.

One day, a bus hit me from behind and spoilt my bumper. Before I'll come down, this guy reversed and ran away

If I pursue am, and destroy his taillamp, people will automatically say I have anger issues.[/color]

God go bless you for this post!

BlueRayDick:
I’ve issues with Danfo drivers before , maybe not 14 years ( I don’t know the relevance what the relatives of the time line is ) . I know how annoying unruly they can be .

I understand most people will resort to fight them following an accident they caused due to their negligent and reckless driving but we all know that only serves one purpose ; FOR YOU TO RELEASE YOUR ANGER AND HAVE FAUX SENSE OF JUSTICE . It’s not going physical with them will make ur vehicle get fixed .

No matter u look at it ; smashing a danfo driver’s vehicle after an accident he caused is an indication one has anger issues.

I’m sure u know people of the clergy are held to tow societal standards ; the legal standard and the moral standard . A clergy is expected to be morally upright and not practising an-eye-for-an-eye the moment his vehicle gets hit by a reckless driver . That same day , it was Christian’s , Muslims and AtR worshippers that were calling him out simultaneously online because he failed the moral standard test . He even ended up injuring innocent passengers that may have been his potential church members in his fit of rage

The question about 14 years ago is relevant because if you didn’t have experience driving in Lagos then — or even before that — you’re only judging the situation without truly understanding what it was like back then.

And just because clergy are held in high esteem, does that suddenly mean blood doesn’t run through their veins?

People often react that way to Danfo drivers because they tend to make things worse — either by hurling insults after damaging your property, trying to start a fight, fleeing the scene, or having no money to fix what they broke, even after endangering your life and the lives of those around you/them.

Smashing the driver’s windshield tells me the guy already knew he wouldn’t be able to make a claim against the Danfo driver — and that he’d likely have to bear the repair costs himself, directly or indirectly. To me, that seems more like pettiness than hot temper, as you’ve suggested — a case of trying to give the driver a taste of his own medicine.

You and I weren’t there, so we’re only working with half the story and drawing conclusions based on limited information. That said, I won’t judge him based solely on his reaction in that moment.

BlueRayDick:
What you’ve described is what almost everyone who drives in Lagos experiences .

Your reaction in both instances shows u actually a very high temper (not like I’m judging u or blaming u for it tho ) .

So it doesn’t change the fact that I said Paul Adefarasin has a very high temper/anger issues . The last ish he had with the dango driver actually led to some of the passengers in the vehicle having cut on the body from the shattered windscreen glass .

If most Nigerian road users buy valid insurance for their vehicles , they won’t need to carry spanner to fight a negligent motorist each time they cause damage to their vehicles through reckless driving . One of my colleagues was involved in an accident last two weeks on his way to work , the other guy who was at fault came down of his car to appeal to him that his insurers will fix the car . Tho my colleague was very angry, he listened to the voice of reason since what he wants is for his car to be fixed eventually . As at last week they’ve fixed his car and I’m sure he would’ve collected the car from the repairs shop this weekend .

Just curious — were you driving in Lagos 14 years ago? And have you ever filed a claim with any insurance company in Nigeria?

How many Danfo drivers have insurers?

Also, you’re conflating having an issue with a regular person and having one with a Danfo driver. Have you ever had an incident with a Danfo driver before? Do you really understand how Danfo drivers function at all? I bet if your colleague had the same experience, you’d be saying something completely different right now.

By the way, I find it shocking how you’ve reduced both incidents to simply being vehicle insurance issues. Did you even stop to consider the risk to human life/my life — or the lives of anyone else around me — not to mention the Danfo driver and their passengers? God forbid, but what if it had led to a major accident and someone lost their life due to that recklessness? What insurer is going to bring a lost life back? Or if someone had suffered a spinal injury — do you think money would fix that?

I’ve seen you campaign on these pages about how dangerous one-way drivers are to society. Yet in both high-stress incidents I described — which could easily have ended in something far more serious — your main concern was whether everyone involved had vehicle insurance. Let me be clear: I value my life far above any material possession. And anyone who endangers it, in any way, shape, or form, will most likely face the consequences. It’s a matter of principle, not temperament.

Madueke is still an unserious player and needs to get lost. I just rewatched the replay of that game — at 2:48 during extra time, he missed a simple tap-in with an open net in front of him. Imagine if England had needed that second goal to qualify — that’s how he would’ve wasted a clear-cut chance. He should either go play elsewhere or be made to sit on the bench for better options.

BlueRayDick:
This is not his first time ; there was a reported incident in December 2023 when he smashed a Danfo bus windscreen out of anger when the danfo bashed his car. Passengers of the bus who recognized him called him out back then; they mentioned how infuriated he was smashing the vehicle’s windscreen after he jumped down from his SUV.

I’m sorry, but I’m not going to judge him based on that random incident with the Danfo driver. Anyone who lives in Lagos understands just how crazy these Danfo guys can be sometimes.

Personally, I’ve had two separate incidents with them in the past. The first was on Ilupeju Road, heading toward Onipan bus stop to connect to Ikorodu Road. The second was in Gbagada, on one of those inner streets near the general hospital — the ones that lead toward Gbagada Market and Deeper Life Church. It’s the same route you’d take to the Third Mainland Bridge if you turn right once you join the main road instead of heading left toward the Market/Deeper Life Church. Different drivers, but the same kind of recklessness.

In both cases, they were trying to overtake me on narrow roads barely wide enough for two cars going in opposite directions — and during traffic, no less. My only options were to either hold my lane and risk having my car damaged or give way and risk being pushed into a gutter. I warned both drivers multiple times that they were about to hit my car and force me off the road, but they completely ignored me. And sure enough, both of them hit my vehicle.

The most frustrating part? While I was warning them, they were insulting me — shouting “iya e” and all kinds of nonsense — right up until they caused the damage. And we all know Danfo drivers don’t fix anything. That’s how it was back then, and these incidents happened roughly 13 or 14 years ago.

The driver in Ilupeju got a few dirty slaps from me — and an army guy sitting beside him even had to beg on his behalf. The one in Gbagada? He walked away with a broken nose and blood everywhere — he thought he could damage my car and beat me up. In the end, I took financial losses both times, having to pay out of pocket to repair the damage.

So, trust me — I get it. I can relate to whatever must have happened between him and that Danfo driver. Na man of God, but na human being first.

That said, I’m not excusing the possibility that he has a temper.

Ibeme:
The movie good or not?

See this paper tiger, crying over movie

Na low budget movie with terrible acting on display. No bother!