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[quote author=Buchiano(m)]Not until Nigerian Doctorunderstand that the health sector demands team work;that nobody knows it all;give evry professional his deisred freedom $ reduce der ego,the health sector would always be in chaos![/quote]Freedom from what, nobody is binding dem. Dey r d ones imprisoning demselves with dis inferiority complex n undue animosity towards doctors
Can a catechist claim to be given freedom to give holy communion in d cath church
Can a lab attendant in universities be made HODs?
Can a paralegal be paid d same as a Lawyer or be a minister of justice
Can an electrical technician be put in charge of an electrical engineer.
Ppl shuld know deir place in d society n not moan abt it. Nobody is in prison its just d way things r and dere nothin dat can b done abt it

Never a priest not least a bishop. The only solution for dese ppl is 4 dem to get a Jamb form and enter medical skul

hitmanogo: from your comment i can c u are a radiographer or preferably an imaging scientist as they ere called abroad....well let me clarify some things for you.a radiologist uses imaging means to manage patients,radiographers dont. by training a radiologist knows the principle behind the workings of the imaging equipments and can use them if need be.he can further go ahead to see a patient learn about the patient problem and give appropiate treatment as a regular doctor, a radiographer cant.... or wherever you do ur locum dont u see that patient see the radiologist around b/f u are called to do ur own work.as of comparison to a medical physicist, u are nowhere near them.....they plan radiation dosing along with radiologists and also use of radionucleutides in nuclear medicine.... radiographers are just the errand boys.... i guess u now understand ur position and humbly accept that u are the and only bigger idiot. u also need an MRI to ascertain if ur thalamus is well wired to the cerebral cortex and if u don't have atrophy of the corpus callosum and amygdala....further studies will involve checking for neuro fibrillary tangles,amyloid plaques, tau and lewy bodies , and csf oligoclonal bands.... the one and only bigger idiot....

Well said my bro.the catechist can never become a priest no matter how many times he sleeps in d parish

ikechiozo: Who cares about what you earn? thats none of my business. What i am saying is that you try not to interfere with the discharge of my duties. know your JD. If you want to brag about the salary, i will tell you that while working in the private sector i earned more than the doctors at same level with me there!!!!

For your Mind

This is just like comparing an Engineer to a technician

ikechiozo: Radiologists dont have the knowledge to dispense radiation and produce diagnostic images. Thats why radiographers are there...

There is nothin and I mean absolutely nothin a radiographer knows dat a radiologist does not know

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ikechiozo: You are indeed very ignorant. It still boils down to what people say about doctors.Doctors feel they know everything..Becos you did a two-week radiology posting u feel you know what is the content of the residency training for radiologists....u had better ask questions before coming here to display your ignorance.

I m not quarelling with u I m just trying to show u y radiologists are superior to radiographers. Diagnosis is d difference b/w d two. d truth may b bitter but it ll always set u free

ikechiozo: You are indeed very ignorant. It still boils down to what people say about doctors.Doctors feel they know everything..Becos you did a two-week radiology posting u feel you know what is the content of the residency training for radiologists....u had better ask questions before coming here to display your ignorance.

As a radiographer u don't have d knowledge to make a diagnosis. That is y dere r radiologists.

ikechiozo: On a normal day i would ignore your post but for the sake of people that may not know what goes on within the health system especially as it applies to Nigeria, clarifications need to be made. Firstly, the issue under contention is not about superiority as docs have come to see themselves as demi-gods but about recognition of d independence of other healthcare professionals in exercising their duties. I don't need a radiologist to tell me when there is a bone fracture, a chest infection, tumour and so on. If you must know the training a radiographer receives in the five year training in the university is what a radiologist starts to learn during the residency training. A radiographer can take the radiographs but a radiologist cannot do that. In the UK radiographers are empowered to make interpretations. You need to be well informed.

Its obvious you dont know what is obtainable outside Nigeria. Do you think is everyone that is interested in studying to be a doctor? This is the rubbish they feed you with right from your school cos i can tell that you are still a student.

This ur quote ll be classified as an abomination even as a student I did radiology posting so how come. A radiologist who is an MBBS holder ll start learnin abt radiography in residency. I ll blame dis on ignorance. Besides we ll keep laughing @ dose clamouring 4 equality a dream dat can never be a reality.I don't have to waste my time here

How can a radiographer claim to be more impt dan a radiologist. Ist a radiographer can only take pictures of d body but does not understand it. It is only a radiologist(a doctor) who can also take d pix n interprete it into a def diagnosis. Also a med lab tech cannot be compared to a pathologist cos he does not understand d pathogenesis of d results n can't tackle d diesease. dese professions were introduced to reduce d burden of doctors n not to be independent of dem. Docs can do all deir work but dey can never do d works of doctors n dat is a fact so dey can't claim equality. D only oda health profession of more relevance but yet cannot b compared to a doc is d nurse n pharmacists. But dese should not expect to be considered on d same level as a medical consultant who has had a minimum of 12 yrs of med training. Dere can b only one captain in a ship. N no oda health profession can claim dis oda dan an MBBS holder.go to developed nations, dere r no lab tech,radiographers dese positions r being taken care of by docs who have specialised in these areas. And 4 d nurse n pharmacists, dey ll forever do what d doctors say cos to do odawise is to kill patients. So WTF abt all health professions r equal sey r not. If u r jealous, get a JAMB form n pass 2ru d rigorous trainin in med skul. Remember no carryover

[quote author =Johnnie ZM]And I suppose you understand? You have not really up any intelligent argument since this thread started. You are just insultive and can't even facts in the bible or history books to defend ur Catholic faith. U see you knw nothing abt the church! Olodo![/quote]And u really think u have made an intelligent arguement in this thread wonders shall never end

Ogamgil: lets talk about d role of Peter. He was chosen by Jesus as his first disciple. Again given leadership role by jesus. Jesus declares peter blessed in mattew 16:13-20. John 21:15-17 jesus gave him authority 2 tak car of his flocks.he also gave peter the key 2 heaven in mattew 16:17-20 sayn dat what ever u bind in earth shal be bind in heaven and who u forgive shal b 4gevn in heaven. So what ar u sayn. Its lik a man on a dieing bed give a land to his son to own and control. Wil u cal dat a spiritual statement or say dat he was meaning that d land belongs 2 his other brothers? See its beter u accept the fact or hold ur peace.

Pointless don't waste ur tym on him,

Johnnie ZM: Guy u are the confuse person. U don't even knw the history of ur church what a shame! Abeg get urself inform b4 and stop putting emotions in the way of history! Christ will never start a church that worship IDOLS in the name of statues. God will open ur eyes.

1st get a proper IQ den we can talk abt history cos obviously u don't understand d simple things u read

Johnnie ZM: Hahaha...I laugh at your ignorance! Maybe you don't know please read history and see that it was Emperor Constantine who founded Roman Catholic...please I have written extensively on that already go and read it! And tell me which bible records it that Catholic church was founded by Christ? Or where is it written that not believing in Catholic lies and heresies will take one to hell? I laugh hahaha...

1st it was dat d catholic church murdered peter den it was dat constantine founded d catholic church. By ur assertion u mean dat d church murdered peter even before it was founded by constantine. Confused and obsessed fellow

U r a demented fellow what concerns d catholic church with emperor nero?. U can blab all you want it won't change d fact dat d catholic church remains supreme over all churches.u talk abt denomination. B4 luther dere was only one universal church,the church christ himself founded.dere was no denominations in christainity. Denominations only started with Luther and henry VIII.I pity u,ur obsession with anti catholicism will blind u to hell. May mary mother of God pray 4 ur soul dat u may see d truth amen

If not that u r blind and so obsessed with anti catholicism u wuld know dat even archaelogist have found evidence of peters bones @ d vatican hill.can't u see ur mindset, how did d catholics kill peter. Anoda twisted version of ur history. I laff in swahili

Well dis is what I had always expected, another twist of history to suit our claim when d truth is staring at us in d face. U ve interpreted christ to say he didn't mean church per say but grp of believers which to me is anoda twist of d bible. But y did he have to single out peter as d rock which he wuld build his church on. If d church is a grp of believers as u claim den he shuld have built his church ob deir hearts he didn't den need peter to b his rock.I believe christ said dat cos he knew d controversies dat wuld arise abt churches in d years to cme. U can twist d bible anyhow u want but d truth will forever be dere looking @ u. D bible confered d leadership of d church on saint peter d same man whose bones lie in d foundation of st peters basilica.u knw d truth but d devil has blinded u n u ll never believe. As 4 ? n d priviledged ones who still uphold d catholic faith. Nothin is more clear. The catholic church remains d church of christ. Anybody who fails to believe it,let him be anathema

So what happened to d church christ founded? If its not d catholic church, den which church is it? Or has it been obliterated off d face of d earth? If so, den christ must b lying wen he said d gates of hell shall not overpower his church. I need answers where is d church christ founded? I dnt mean churches but a single church.since christ obviously didn't mean to found more dan one church. Answers pls

Make una leave us, we like our church like dat, if na brainwashing dem d brainwash us, we ask 4 more brainwashin.if e d pain u,hug transformer. Holy mary mother of God The one and only THEOTOKOS keep praying 4 dem

Hawolowo acted like a coward in dis situation.it shows he was just too scared to do what was supposed to have been done. A typical yahooroba man

Hawolowo died of rat poison QED.

Dey don't know deir roots, dey don't know what dey have. I am proud to be born catholic dere is no church greater that's y all dey do is beef. I can never leave the church.I can't imagine myself in anoda church. Its impossible

Yoruba ppl una no dey tire, after everything una go say, d whole world including ur laeders ll still recognise ojukwu as a great man. If I be bluetooth or dayo I for don drink kerosine since

All generations shall call him great

Igbaodun did u forget to take ur drugs dis morning. N what d hell is a psychopath like u doing on nairaland.

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By Taju Tijani

As Dim Chukwuemeka Odumegwu Ojukwu, Dikedioramma, Eze Igbo gburugburu returns to the timeless terrestrial, the Ndigbo will forever be awed and serenaded by the aura, bravery, charisma, confidence, defiance, intellect, mythology and vision of Ikemba.

They will forever worship at the altar of his Biafranism and romanticise its good, bad and ugly legacy. Today he remains in our memory for making a courageous stand and shouting “Who Dares Wins”. He was a visionary and a prophet’s prophet. When he saw our salvation and speedy freedom from servitude, we rejected his call for solidarity. When he saw the lies and sins of our high priests, we saw hope in their sermons just as we now embraced the platitudes of a Jonathan transformational agenda. When he saw the stark dichotomy between the North and the South, the measureless odium and vexations, Ikemba made for a defining moment and confronted all the seeming oppressive tendencies with total determination. And like Frank Sinatra, he ‘did it in his own way’ through the shattering power of his ‘ogbunigwes’.

In spite of his silver-spooned background, urbanity, lady-killer-good looks, charisma and ivy-league education, he soiled his princely hands in the Biafran struggle with notorious, not to say, demonic zeal. And because Ojukwu hated behind-the- scene, softly-softly approach to the sufferings of his people, he embraced the direct action orthodoxy as we now see in the Occupy this, Occupy that revolution.

By any standard, Ojukwu was a fine soldier and confident combatant. He was an enigmatic warrior and conscience of the common masses of Nigeria. God had prepared him before he was born as a liberator, a Mosaican deliverer and a prophet from Nnewi. Ojukwu harboured no faithless timidity in his pursuit of an authentic Igbo republic. His famous apocalyptic Aburi rhetoric was a document of emotional grievances.  Ndigbo’s fascination with the man is precisely the index of how he is revered. Ojukwu gave the Igbo a sense of Biafranness.

This is the classic case of how tribal identities are created and re-created through the struggles, statements and actions of our leaders. And Biafranism gave rise to identity affirmation among Ndigbo. The struggle for the birth of Biafra later became the mean machine that articulated the vision of the Ndigbo. It was the Iroko tree they once perched on in their ceaseless quest for destiny-driven self determination.

Contrary to the impenetrable logic of Ndigbo concerning Awo’s role during the war, millions of Ndigbo still believe that Yoruba did not supported the spirit of Biafra. Millions of us supported his mission of rescue contrary to the voices of few Igbo leaders. Ojukwu was a Lagos boy and spoke the Yoruba language fluently and had many Yoruba friends. The argument for Yoruba reflex rejection of the Biafran war may be forgivable. What is unforgivable is the strand of unpleasant populism that surfaces from time to time in gratuitous references to the Biafran war from the pro war camp. Watch this, there is this tragic emblem still being worn by Biafran paganists i.e. the Neo-Biafranists who grind out greasy judgement, condemnation and canting rebuke of the role of the Pan-Yoruba universe in the war.

What then now? Awolowo had long gone home. Ikemba, the hurricane, is on his way to meet his maker. Awo and Ojukwu the duo contestants for our tribal loyalties may have departed, what still remains among the Yoruba and Ndigbo is the yawning clannish intolerance that really threatens our mutual bond. Liberty and freedom are the agendum of the Biafran war. The Yoruba are still searching for this twin Holy Grail in our polity almost on daily basis. Consider the fights of Soyinka, Bakare, Falana, Braithwaite, Fela, Fawehinmi, Beko Ransome-Kuti and many other Yoruba warriors still screaming on the streets. The sharp division, injustice, intolerance and corruption of 1966 are still with us and in far more savage forms but where is the Ojukwu or the messiah to call us to arms?

Today, pacifists, saboteurs, oppressors and anti-Ojukwu are restigmatising the Biafran war as needless and a mistake. For embracing an iconic paradigm, enemies called him arrogant and impatient. In many pathetic, cack-handed attempts to denigrate his warrior oeuvre, implacable critics like Olusegun Obasanjo, Ibrahim Babangida and Yakubu Gowon are calling his resort to armed rebellion as sheer exercise in delusion and military infantilism. These critics reasoned that the honour, bravado and machismo of the Biafran war left unhealable scars and lingering wounds without achieving the Biafran project. The enemies of the Biafran war see no contradiction in projecting countercultural statement. They are unafraid to call the war an unpopular disaster from the crazed soul of a war mongering fantasist.  Ikemba is accused of going for the sweepstakes of warfare without pausing to map alternative lines of peaceful separation before choosing his own track. These roaring lions and the evening wolves will not allow his body to rest without feasting.

Thankfully, Dr. Tunji Braithwaite has fired the first salvo to debunk Babangida, Gowon and Obasanjo’s claim that he fought against his fatherland. Hear Braithwaite: ‘Ojukwu fought against injustice, lies and corruption. We are still fighting against these things till date. And the fight will continue until victory is achieved.'

An anti-Biafran purge may be on the rise in the minds of some demented leaders and revisionists, but the idea of Biafra will never die in a badly managed entity of many nation-states called Nigeria. However, I have to warn that Ndigbo too are becoming anti-Ojukwu through the loss of their spirit of defiance, a spirit that rested on Ikemba to the end. Now that Boko Haram is rolling out heavier dice of genocide against the Ndigbo, where is an Ojukwu to save his clan from extinction? The emerging prosperity of the Ndigbo and their creative renaissance are becoming tied to the imperfect unity of one Nigeria while the resurgence of a future Biafra recedes into oblivion. The human suffering of the Biafran war can never be forgotten. That is why we all share in the continual remembrance of departed ones which the war enforces.

But can the Ndigbo continue to affirm their conceited valour of the Biafran war while fastening their helplessness on political marginalisation? The immediate challenge for the Ndigbo or freedom loving Biafrans is to reinvent an Ojukwu icon that will embody the approving qualities of valour, tenacity, industry, genius, long suffering and hard work commonly associated with an average, hardwired Igbo modern man. The relevance of another Ojukwu is crafted in Sonny Odogwu’s tribute. “Nigeria is still looking for direction. Inequity and social injustice he fought against are still there.

I urge Nigerians and the leadership to correct structural deficiencies and social injustice.” The need for another Ojukwu cannot be more urgent. After the death of Awo, the Yoruba are still in that quagmire of reinventing an Awo icon that had remained elusive ever since. Adieu, the lion of Nnewi.

If d educated ppl were really educated, dey ll know to write anytin derogatory abt ojukwu is to insult d igbo nation. Yess yoruba ppl also do shit too.@least d chemist man didn't do it intentionally like wicked yoruba tribalists wuld have done. My broda I ll recomend loperamide 4 u as I can see u have chronic diarrhoea n pls in Gods name brush n take a bath

They are drunk with envy of the igbos. The disease is so much in deir bloodstream such that @ d mention of d name odumegwu ojukwu every yoruba tribalist has high fever with chills n rigors and den have episodes of explosive diarrhoea. Y do u tink dey stink so bad

Yoruba ppl and jealousy tufiakwa! What a cursed tribe

Hate it or love it d igbos r rising n r getting stronger by d day. U jealous folks can do nothing but swallow d bitter pill. Ojukwu is an oracle

If nothern oligarchs had swallowed deir pride n had not advised Gowon to renege on his agreement @ aburi we wuld not have been here. If d bloodthisty northern Non commandin officers led by murtala mohammed have stopped with d killing of Ironsi and oda igbo officers @least de ve had deir pound of flesh den dey wuld have been no war.instaed, dey breached protocols usurped power n started a progrom to wuld plunge d whole nation into wars.which government money r u talking abt. Let ♏ leave it dat u r just talking pointless. If anybody shuld be blamed it is d northerners. Ojukwu defended his ppl. Biafra fought a war of survival not aggression

We r not complaining we didn't want him to be killed.we told him to run away. He was still needed alive. He was a hero to d last n we ll continue to accord him with dat respect. If u don't like it, go to taraba n kiss a lassa fever patient mr al majiri abi al haram