maestroferddi:
2023 is PDP's game to lose... every APC leader knows this ...

princdebola201:

The have penchant for swimming against tide. The same mistake they made in 2015.

PDP have power rotation between North and south in their constitution

slivertongue:



Am shocked you don't know Ayu & Atiku are allies

princdebola201:
there is no confusion in PDP, the govs conducted a successful congress and convention. The govs were able to wield out general boys in the congress and convention. Notable mention is brigadier general oyinlola, the generals wanted him to succeed secondus only for seyi makinde candidate (Arapaja)to emerge for the south west slot.

Atiku ambition has been buried before his eyes during congress and convention. The nwc members were handpicked by the govs..

And there is no division among the govs.they have resolved select pdp flagbearer among themselves. Atiku can waste his money as usual but he is not going to touch pdp ticket

Maduawuchukwu:


Atiku is poised to win more votes in the north this time around.

slivertongue:


Op I suspect you are using this thread to weigh opinions so as to build a projections. Tell us ooo cos this thread is headed for the permanent site

EazyMoh:


Atiku might be the next president.

maestroferddi:
Nobody is falling for your pretences or how else would be making these baseless projections?

If Tinubu is on the ballot, a PDP candidate can get up to 45 percent in Lagos

How does Tinubu win in Benue where APC is somehow associated with Fulani herdsmen who have invariably left bloodletting their wake?

Ortom might not tick all the boxes, but he is intensely popular in the state...

DMerciful:
Look at 2015 and 2019 election, the margin from the entire SW is not more than 300k. You think Yorubas make up more than 60% of Lagos? You think all Yoruba will vote for APC?


Your analysis is not data based. In Lagos alone, APC has not defeated PDP more than 100k votes inspite of rigging using agberos

michlins:
Do your calculations and analysis, but I will vote for the worst Southern candidate before I will allow North to get my vote.

If we make the mistake of them retaining power, the South might not smell it again ever

slivertongue:


Well read about Atiku before making statements that are not totally correct same too to other personalities. In a bid for the South to occupy the villa they are making all manner of contentious statements. Atiku stood toe to toe with Abiola in 1993 &Abiola won. he refused to accept VP & refused to work for Abiola until his political boss Shehu Yar'adua called him to order. Yar'adua, Atiku, Kingibe &Pascal Bafau formal NLC president did the ground work of Hope93 in the North with Zwingina leading the charge. Obj didn't pick him for nothing, but his tendencies caught up with him. Obj simply bought over Atiku's allies with contracts &positions but guess what the same people are back on the same page. No permanent friends &no permanent enemies in politics.
Tinubu can't under rate the man he said encouraged him into politics, Asiwaju can't under rate a man people say threw dollars at delegates in 2015. Atiku's problem i once said on this forum is his drifting towards feudalism. He raised many politicians &public office holders who later choose their own path but are respectful of his person. Ribadu, Elrufia etc are examples.

If you claim 70% of the votes for Turaki came from SS & SE. Please table the evidence.

Yar'adua was a sitting governor &d darling of a sitting president. Delta & Bayelsa states resources largely funded the election. Gej enjoyed same grace until rebellion was sowed into the party by d 'comptrollers' of Nigeria.

slivertongue:



Buhari is a religions leader backed by powerful Islamic clerics. Without them he is a nobody. Kwankwaso is sure popular but without political position he can do very little. Northern politics is built on religion &tribe. Buhari is still in the good books of these clerics but politically they are done with him, some boldly preach against his failed governance process. Most southerners over inflate the importance of individuals. Even Atiku who is one of the most influential here can't make
such claims of having the North in his palms cos he knows how the people roll

fyneguy:


The North is actually more politically sophisticated than the South.

MKO Abiola defeated Tofa in many northern states. The Northern political trajectory is largely influenced by their leaders/elites. Buhari and Kwankwanso are the only ones who have direct access to the commoners up there. Should their elites queue behind Tinubu, he will defeat PDP.

fyneguy:


Lol if you think Tinubu is still looking for money to prosecute his Presidential project, then you don't know him.

Tinubu is the one funding APC in PDP-cobtrolled states. Do the maths lol

JaroMan:

One factor you can't rule out is religion.
A Muslim South with a Muslim north is risky.
A Muslim South with a Christian north is risky.
These are entrenched sentiments that must not be wished away.
The 2nd term governors can't be trusted especially those that came in through Buhari. Except the assurance are Germaine, I don't see Tinubu beating any northerner

JaroMan:

Who told you Wike controls PDP? Wike can't even control South South PDP. Is he more influential than Peter Odili? But we know how it ended.
If the retired Generals decide where power goes, nobody will even consult Wike if Rivers money is to be used.

JaroMan:

If APC gives Tinubu the ticket(which I doubt), and PDP gives to north (which I also doubt), PDP will win fair and square.
The north is prepared for a slip in South. They are mobilizing seriously and if the South fails to agree on SE, it will happen.
SE might not vote; yes. South South will go to PDP especially with Udom or Okowa as VP. Wike can't be VP. He doesn't have that mien. OBJ made that mistake with Atiku, no one wants to repeat it.
Apart from Nasarawa and Kwara in NC, APC will struggle there.
NW will vote a northern candidate. It's sacrosanct. Kebbi, Jigawa, Kaduna, Sokoto, Zamfara and 40% of Kano will give PDP victory there.
NE will ostracize anyone that works against their chance to be president.
So a closer observer will tell you this.

phelps007:

The likes of Moghalu wont even get the up to the number of votes required especially up north. Baba garnered 21,886 nationwide during the last presidential election. Infact Fela Durotoye polled 16,779.

DubaiLandLord2:
It can happen in future but not in 2023.

The presidential election in 2023 is between APC and PDP.

OlujobaSamuel:

10k ke, na 1sachet of Chelsea go buy some people vote sef.
#450 bought about 7adults vote in my presence during the last election

Bobloco:
I think Tinubu supporters are living in self denial.
To them, Tinubu is as good as being the president of Nigeria and the election is just a mere academic exercise.
Even within the APC, Osibanjo's candidacy is already a headache for them making them to resort to blackmail

Kam2021:
So after condemning PMB..you still have mind to be rooting subtly for Tinubu at his age??Who do Nigeria?

johnnobles:

Thanks doc, what is the cause, is it fat related or something, and is there no massage cream that can nomalise it

baralatie:

It goes away with time after you rest your hands