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Christianity Etc › Spirits Of The Dead: Do They Speak And Hear? by DoctorAlien(op): 4:27pm On Aug 24, 2017

To introduce this subject, we must find the answer to one great, basic question. If we can answer it correctly, all the other questions about death and the soul will open up like flowers in the sun. The really important issue is this: What kind of inherent nature does man possess? How did God create him? Does he have a mortal nature or an immortal nature? According to the dictionary, the word “mortal” means “subject to death,” and the word “immortal” means “not subject to death.” Simply stated then, we are asking whether God created man with a nature that could die or with the power of an endless life.

Christianity Etc › Re: Can Mary Hear Our Prayers? by DoctorAlien(m): 4:15pm On Aug 24, 2017

easymancfc:
Abel was not said to be resurrected just like Moses was not said to be resurrected but you agree he is in heaven. So resurrection argument does not follow

You said his blood cried out for Justice... meaning he was not unconscious

the Martyrs where souls under God's temple IN HEAVEN not blood from THE GRAVE... What do they both have in common... CONSCIOUSNESS

Some characters in parables are meant to be symbolic not all...the Point Is... Are they Truth or false... If they are truth then the dead are conscious.. If they are false then Jesus is lying in a Parable... or using falsehood to teach

Lastly all the Jews as did Jesus believe in Abraham's bossom and Hades and the consciousness of the dead. that s why the parable made sense to them

The blood crying out for justice is figurative, because the blood wasn't really crying. Revelations is filled with symbols. I know it's hard to grasp. But never think the Jews misunderstood Jesus' parable like you do.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Can Mary Hear Our Prayers? by DoctorAlien(m): 3:52pm On Aug 24, 2017

easymancfc:
Just like Moses, or Elijah or Abel or Lazarus or the Rich man, or the martyrs etc...

Moses and Elijah are in Heaven. That is too plain in the Bible to be mistaken.

"Righteous Abel" is still in the grave, waiting for the resurrection of the dead in Christ. The Bible never records the resurrection of Abel. It only says of Abel that his blood cried out from the ground to GOD. GOD meant by that that the crime committed against Abel demands justice. This is also what is meant when Revelations says that souls under the altar were demanding judgment against men on earth. Of course you don't believe that righteous people pray for GOD to destroy sinners. They instead, like Jesus and Stephen, pray for GOD to forgive them.

The story of the Rich man and Lazarus is a PARABLE! Browse the meaning of the word "PARABLE". All the characters in the PARABLE ARE SYMBOLIC. Even "Abraham's bosom" symbolizes something. The PARABLE is not to be taken literally.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Can Mary Hear Our Prayers? by DoctorAlien(m): 3:35pm On Aug 24, 2017

No, Mary is in the grave right now, waiting to be resurrected when Christ returns. 1 Thess. 4:16-17.

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Christianity Etc › Re: The Bible Exactly predicted it by DoctorAlien(op): 3:27pm On Aug 24, 2017

And you can be sure that the other prophecies in the Bible are happening and will continue to happen just exactly as the Bible stated them.

Christianity Etc › Re: A Discussion between Antiparticle and DoctorAlien on GOD by DoctorAlien(op): 3:22pm On Aug 24, 2017

Antiparticle:
This is my first time logging into NL with this account since we last debated! Lol.
Busy times. Hope you are good.

I'm good. I trust you're doing well too.

Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is The Most Convincin unBeliever In This Section? by DoctorAlien(m): 3:05pm On Aug 24, 2017

None of them. The most intelligent ones among them hold their peace when superior arguments meet theirs. Others resort to ranting and throwing obscenities in a bid to lend credence to their weak arguments.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Are There Many Different Religions. by DoctorAlien(m): 2:57pm On Aug 24, 2017

There are many different religions in the world today because it seems the norm in this present universe is for the authentic to be impersonated by a host of other fakes.

Christianity Etc › Re: About The Idea Of Heaven And Eternal Bliss by DoctorAlien(m): 9:47pm On Aug 13, 2017

dalaman:
According to who?

According to common sense. Only creatures with freewill could CHOOSE to rebel against GOD.

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Christianity Etc › Re: About The Idea Of Heaven And Eternal Bliss by DoctorAlien(m): 4:52pm On Aug 11, 2017

dalaman:
But even a third of the angels that were created without free will (Robots) decided to follow lucifer and rebel against God in a perfect heaven talk more of humans that have free will and are always and constantly struggling with sin according to the story.

Angels were created with freewill.

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Christianity Etc › Re: What They Have Not Told You About The Rosary by DoctorAlien(m): 5:36pm On Aug 07, 2017

easymancfc:
Jesus did not give you to the beloved to be "our" mother... he gave Mary...
You were not there at the important moments of Jesus life.. Mary was..
3. Jesus didnt obey you.... He obeyed her...
4. No be you born Jesus... Jesus didnt suck your breast as a baby... You didnt carry Jesus.... i could go on and on...
5. FINALLY YOU THAT HAVE THE "PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP MARY HAS WITH JESUS...

The Spirit of GOD inspired the Bible.(2 Pet. 1:21). The Spirit of GOD bears witness with my spirit that I am a child of GOD, and that I do His will.(Rom. 8:16). Jesus says that I am His mother since I do GOD's will. Why aren't you chanting prayers to me as the mother of GOD.

Continue deceiving yourself

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Christianity Etc › Re: What They Have Not Told You About The Rosary by DoctorAlien(m): 5:31pm On Aug 07, 2017

easymancfc:
because
1. You cant prove that you are doing the will of God with your life (mat 7:16) na only for your mouth i dey hear am... but the bible bears witness to Mary... both in her perfect biological motherhood and her perfect obedience to the will of God ...

luke 1:38 And Mary said, “Behold, I am the handmaid of the Lord; let it be to me according to your word.” And the angel departed from her.

LWKM.

All have sinned, and fall short of the glory of GOD. Mary sinned too, and in Lk. 1, Mary admitted her need of a Saviour(Lk. 1:47). The words of Mary in Lk. 1:38 does not mean she never sinned, because they were also uttered by Hezekiah in 2 Kings 20:20.

Heb. 4:15 says Jesus was in all points tempted as we are, yet without sin. The Bible does not say so of Mary.

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Christianity Etc › Re: What They Have Not Told You About The Rosary by DoctorAlien(m): 5:19pm On Aug 07, 2017

easymancfc:
1 tim 2:5 talks about MEDIATOR...Mary is an intercessor or secondary mediator and the bible encourages intercession among Christians
1 tim 2:2 First of all, then, I urge that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and thanksgivings be made for all men, 2 for kings and all who are in high positions, that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life, godly and respectful in every way.

Concerning 1 thess 4, the context doesnt mean there is no one in heaven... what it means is that Those who have died will have a bodily resurrection on the last day... which the Catholic church believes and teaches....

Mary is now a secondary mediator? Okay. Why aren't you chanting my name and begging for mediation? Is Mary more of a secondary mediator than I am, being a child of GOD?

Those in heaven will leave Heaven to come and have bodily resurrection on earth? Why did Paul say that the dead in Christ will "rise"? Why did he not say that they will descend from Heaven?

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Christianity Etc › Re: What They Have Not Told You About The Rosary by DoctorAlien(m): 5:04pm On Aug 07, 2017

easymancfc:
My dear continue hiding behind one passage....

reminder.. Your false dichotomy doesn't work logically...

You are the one trying to force one passage to say what it must mean...

Jesus says that anyone who does the will of GOD is His mother. I am doing the will of GOD. Why aren't you offering prayers to me as the mother of GOD?

Christianity Etc › Re: About The Idea Of Heaven And Eternal Bliss by DoctorAlien(m): 4:56pm On Aug 07, 2017

frank317:
... and why didnt he do it in the fist place?

Perhaps he is also on a learning process like humans... I mean, a trial and error thing

DoctorAlien:
It is not about what GOD would do in heaven; it is about what the dwellers in Heaven have done while they were on earth. They had cultivated a character of holiness and obedience to GOD while they were on earth. The fact that even death, which is the ultimate price, could not change their character of obedience to GOD(Rev. 12:11) tells you that such a character is permanent, and they would dwell with it forever.

So, Heaven is safe, and sin will never arise again(Nahum 1:9).

Christianity Etc › Re: About The Idea Of Heaven And Eternal Bliss by DoctorAlien(m): 4:38pm On Aug 07, 2017

johnydon22:
A permanent character in freewill, that is highly unlikely. If us as beings in heaven can be sinless then it means that perfection of beings is attainable therefore creatable - God could have easily made man in that innate state of holiness that is permanent.

But if man goes up to heaven as man fully with freewill, how so can man not still sin/disobey/fall as Adam or Lucifer did

Refer to my answer above.

Christianity Etc › Re: About The Idea Of Heaven And Eternal Bliss by DoctorAlien(m): 4:38pm On Aug 07, 2017

johnydon22:
I get it perfectly well my brother and that still remains my point, If we are to end up in a perfect world for eternity, why weren't we (our ancestors) however you chose for it to be done created in a perfect world?

is God incapable of creating a perfect world?

If such blissful world is possible, why aren't we there?

why do we need to be tested in order to gain a perfect world?

And if this perfect world was possible, why weren't it the first port of creation if God had the intention of putting man in such a world?

Man was created in a perfect world, but with freewill! That means that he could choose to obey or disobey GOD. Unfortunately he chose to disobey GOD. Creating man without the ability to choose voluntarily to love and obey GOD makes him a robot/machine.

However, those who would be in Heaven are those who have shown that they would permanently obey GOD with their freewill, come what may.(Rev. 12:11)

Christianity Etc › Re: About The Idea Of Heaven And Eternal Bliss by DoctorAlien(m): 4:26pm On Aug 07, 2017

johnydon22:
Good so which then brings the final question of the article into light; How then could man avoid being man in heaven, how will man not fall/sin/disobey again in this paradise?

what will God do differently in paradise to avoid the whole saga repeating itself all over again and thus it keeps going?

It is not about what GOD would do in heaven; it is about what the dwellers in Heaven have done while they were on earth. They had cultivated a character of holiness and obedience to GOD while they were on earth. The fact that even death, which is the ultimate price, could not change their character of obedience to GOD(Rev. 12:11) tells you that such a character is permanent, and they would dwell with it forever.

So, Heaven is safe, and sin will never arise again(Nahum 1:9).

Christianity Etc › Re: About The Idea Of Heaven And Eternal Bliss by DoctorAlien(m): 4:21pm On Aug 07, 2017

johnydon22:
I don't get this line brother, the first and last sentences seem to contradict by implication, mind reviewing?

this is exactly what my point was hitting: we could still love God if he created us directly into the promised perfect world...

How could you be a man without being born of men? You begin to wonder, why didn't GOD create 7 billion people on earth? It is because He has designed for our first parents to be the parents of all men. GOD created our first parents, and commanded them to procreate. Creating you directly into Heaven means you'd be an angel or any other being, but not a man. Don't you get it?

Christianity Etc › Re: About The Idea Of Heaven And Eternal Bliss by DoctorAlien(m): 4:18pm On Aug 07, 2017

johnydon22:
So when you get to this unman stage, you become incorruptible? You become an approximation of a perfect being?

In heaven we would still be men, okay?(Rev. 21:3).

GOD actually values man more than angels(Jn. 3:16). Jesus Christ will, throughout eternity, bear the form of man. That's a privilege. GOD created man in His own image, but He did not create angels in His own image. It's a privilege to be a man. And I would rather be a man, than be an angel. Man is the crown of GOD's creation. Heaven would simply be a place of restoring man to his original position, and only then can we begin to know the glorious destiny which GOD prepared for man.

Christianity Etc › Re: About The Idea Of Heaven And Eternal Bliss by DoctorAlien(m): 4:12pm On Aug 07, 2017

It is amazing how the perfect plan of an all knowing and all
powerful being can be thwarted by tiny man. This answer calls into question the very purity of heaven, if
man could ruin God's perfect world, what would change
when man is now in heaven? won't man also be able to ruin that too?

How can man's disobedience call into question Heaven's purity? That's meaningless.

Man could choose to sin because he was created with freewill, just like angels.

Christianity Etc › Re: About The Idea Of Heaven And Eternal Bliss by DoctorAlien(m): 4:09pm On Aug 07, 2017

So if heaven is perfect at last, and everyone in heaven will turn out perfect then this means God is fully capable of creating a perfect world with perfect beings in it, which now begs the question "Why didn't God create that perfect world in the first place?"

This is where you miss it. Why do you think everybody won't be in Heaven? It is because only those who have cultivated a character of holiness would be able to dwell in Heaven's sinless company(Heb. 12:14). Heaven is for only those who have shown on earth that come what may, they would never disobey GOD. These loved GOD(Jn. 14:15) to the extent that they would die rather than disobey GOD(Rev. 12:11). Can't you see that even in Heaven, nothing would make them disobey GOD, if they were willing to give up their lives on earth rather than disobey GOD?

Christianity Etc › Re: About The Idea Of Heaven And Eternal Bliss by DoctorAlien(m): 4:01pm On Aug 07, 2017

"You must live and die first before it can be determined if you are qualified to gain this eternal bliss" If we run our thoughts backwards in time, try to picture the state we were before birth then one can be exposed the bizarreness and cruelty of such unnecessary tests. We didn't exist - There were two choices before God, create these beings into a perfect world or create them into an imperfect world to test them over nothing. If there is a perfect God with the ability to make a perfect world and this perfect God wants you to be in a perfect world, he would have pulled you directly from in-existence into this perfect world. You didn't exist, so what exactly was the need for the test when you could be created exactly where God wills?

For you to be a man, you must be born of man, and live on earth. Being created in any other world means you're no longer man. That was why Jesus had to be born of a woman.

Christianity Etc › Re: What They Have Not Told You About The Rosary by DoctorAlien(m): 3:49pm On Aug 07, 2017

filumina:
You're right, no creature of God is omniscient, omnipresent and omnipotent. God alone possesses these attributes.
Mary intercedes for us, so do the Angels and the Saints. I'll like you to read about the story of the wedding at Cana. Jn 2:1 - 12.
Also Tob 12:12 - 21 http://www.biblestudytools.com/gnta/tobit/12.html

"For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Jesus Christ." 1 Tim. 2:5

Nonsense! Mary is not even in heaven now, not to talk of being your mediator. Mary will only get to Heaven when Christ returns(1 Thess. 4:16-18).

Christianity Etc › Re: Are We Worshipping A 'White God'? by DoctorAlien(m): 2:35pm On Aug 03, 2017

LightandDarkness:
I don't know the exact conditions and process, they don't know for sure, but science always advances. If 50 years from now these processes are no longer a mystery what then? Are you going to continue basing your beliefs on ignorance?

In addition the theory of evolution is largely focused on the origin of species not of life itself. Lack of awareness of the origin of the first cell does not reduce the overall accuracy of the theory.

How can a sane human being believe that humans were molded from soil, that's the larger fairy tale.

Overall accuracy of the theory, you say? When it has never been observed how one kind of organism can acquire new genetic information to evolve into a new different kind of organism? Can you show me a unicellular organism currently in the process of becoming a new different kind of multicellular organsim?

Christianity Etc › Re: How Religion Works; The Psychology Behind It. by DoctorAlien(m): 11:38am On Aug 03, 2017

Ranchhoddas:
This is the first time I'm seeing this analogy I get the gist.
If you've been seeing it for a while and still do not get it then it means that you'll never get it.

Yes. I'll never get it.

Christianity Etc › Re: How Religion Works; The Psychology Behind It. by DoctorAlien(m): 10:55am On Aug 03, 2017

This analogy has been around for some time now, but the OP simply regurgitated it, without telling us what it has to do with religion.

Christianity Etc › Re: Are We Worshipping A 'White God'? by DoctorAlien(m): 4:35am On Aug 03, 2017*

LightandDarkness:
I have demonstrated several times that my limited knowledge of biological sciences is still superior to yours. If you are so sure you have completely understood and dismantled evolution, I challenge you to publish your findings in a journal for peer review. You are doctor yes? You've picked up a peer reviewed journal yes? Now use your expertise to scientifically disprove the theory of evolution and publish your findings, I look forward to reading them.

The very theory of evolution keeps disproving itself on a daily basis. How can a sane human being entertain the thought that "highly energetic chemistry produced a self-replicating molecule around 4 billion years ago"? What conditions existed then? Can that process be repeated today in the lab?

Wikipedia says that the current scientific concensus is that the complex biochemistry that makes up life came from simpler chemical reactions. That's anything but scientific; it's actually fairytale.

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Science/Technology › Re: New Study Shows Ancient Israelites Didn't Wipe Out The Canaanites by DoctorAlien(m): 4:17am On Aug 03, 2017

felixomor:
Its obvious these folks dont know the Bible They thought they found something new to hang on to
Own Goal for them

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Science/Technology › Re: New Study Shows Ancient Israelites Didn't Wipe Out The Canaanites by DoctorAlien(m): 3:23am On Aug 03, 2017

4kings,

Isn't it shameful that the OP started with a lie? How come the OP could say that the Bible "suggests" that the Canaanites were completely wiped out when, in fact, Joshua 17:12-13 and Judges 1:27-33 plainly record the failure of the Israelites to utterly destroy the Canaanites?

And isn't it cool that the study actually confirms what the Bible is saying?

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Christianity Etc › Re: How To Study Bible Prophecy by DoctorAlien(op): 3:54pm On Jul 25, 2017

GodsMopol:
DoctorStrange DoctorAlien happy birthday to you guys. Grow in Christ. see ya in heaven

Thank you bro.

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Christianity Etc › Re: The Theist/Atheist Dilemma by DoctorAlien(m): 5:26am On Jul 19, 2017

If we state that God is holy then the theists dualist concept of good and bad, evil and sin is surely absurd. For God according to them created everything and necessarily a holy God cannot create that which is unholy

WRONG!

GOD created everything "good". But GOD took the greatest risk in creating beings with freewill(angels and men) that could CHOOSE to disobey His law and disrupt the peace of the universe. That, combined with the apparent law that in this present universe, everything that could go wrong would eventually go wrong, makes it a bit less surprising that sin and evil exist today.

That said, the appearance of sin within the courts of Heaven, and the fact that it was from the most beautiful and most powerful being next to GOD remains a mystery.

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