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Celebrities › Re: I Will Never Support Biafra - Charlie Boy by donborg(m): 9:32pm On Apr 21, 2017
nengibo:
Oya carry ur man power and oil and go & kindly leave us with our woman power, No Niger delta group is participating in an igbo sponsored referendum
point of correction 'chairman of all niger delta groups' , the referendum will be organised by the united nations under the principle of self determination of indigenous people.
Politics › Re: Nigeria Will Never Break Up: Here Is Why by donborg(m): 2:51pm On Apr 21, 2017
obiezed:
The innocent Eastern officers who had nothing to do with Nzeogwu's coup who were killed were given a chance sure??you are the one who misses the entire plot,
Ojukwu was an Ex-Nigerian soldier, he would have tried according to Martial Law,Nnamdi KANU is not and cannot be so tried.
If you think immediately after the war,he would have been spared,you are definitely on a very long thing.
P.s Ojukwu never agitated for Biafra,in his case ,it was a resppnsibility thrust upon him.thats why no igbo who lived thru the war blames him for it.stop miscontruing simple history.the Man lived and died believing he tried tthe best he could for his people,thats why he's remembered as a hero.
Prior to Nnamdi kanu,there were 2 other Biafran agitations, Nnamdi just took the cake because of his nasty,vitriolic rhetorics.I don't approve of his style but hey,he got the nation's attention.
Ojukwu's courage or not,is well documented,his exploits from childhood to his military service to leading his army into battle from the front as in case of the Oguta skirmish. What is your own story??,leave a dead man alone with his.
Celebrities › Re: I Will Never Support Biafra - Charlie Boy by donborg(m): 12:27pm On Apr 21, 2017
YelloweWest:
That is my point exactly!!! But some ipob make it sound like it is by force for us to join them.

They say this like ph is part of Biafra land. I'm Ikwerre from the heart of ph which is Ogbumunabali. We dont want any part of Biafra.

They also say there is nothing like the Niger Delta, that the Niger Delta is not an entity on its own.... what sort of bull crap is that??

I can confidently tell u that NO PART of Rivers State be it Etche Ndokis-Omuma Ikwerre which are all migrantes from Igbo land will join biafra. Why??

Because of OIL and seaports! They would rather want to be part of the Niger Delta.

This is a fact.
Igbo should come to terms with this reality when clamouring for biafra.
Or focus on developing the SE within Nigeria.
cool down bro. referendum is like an election where all these issues you raised will be discussed and adequately addressed. igbos also have oil and importantly the manpower which nigerdelta lacks.
Politics › Re: Nigeria Will Never Break Up: Here Is Why by donborg(m):
u did not understand my comment clearly. i didnt say that ojukwu didnt try his best, i said that his best is not good enough. i didnt say he wont be killed, i said that he might have agreed to an arrangement in which he will be spared IF he drops his agitation for biafra IF he was arrested after the war(buhari later arrested him and maybe he did sign that agreement in prison). lets put this into perspective, what if nnamdi kanu should drop his biafran agitation today, would u really say that he has tried his best even after the death of those protesters? hell no. i will call him a fraud for promising what he his not ready to achieve. i cant leave ojukwu alone because his actions and inactions 50 years ago led to this present sorry state of igbo land
Celebrities › Re: I Will Never Support Biafra - Charlie Boy by donborg(m): 9:31am On Apr 21, 2017
YelloweWest:
Claiming that Rivers State must join biafra by force undecided
cut the crap, referendum is not by force
Celebrities › Re: I Will Never Support Biafra - Charlie Boy by donborg(m): 8:36am On Apr 21, 2017
nextstep:
You are right. But what has stopped Igboland from being the economic powerhouse of Nigeria? Why hasn't it developed to the level where there's no reason to migrate to Lagos (or China)? Igbos talk of marginalization, but it's the same Igbo leaders that have (like all Nigerian elites), pocketed funds meant for the public good. Is it these same leaders that will suddenly make Biafra a great country? If one cannot manage a state and make it great, how will one be able to manage an entire nation?
we want to develop our land OURSELVES, we dont need the help of hausa, yoruba and fulani people OK?
Celebrities › Re: I Will Never Support Biafra - Charlie Boy by donborg(m): 8:33am On Apr 21, 2017
wristbangle:
This is one of the reason to showcase the fact that IPOB youths possess demented brain. Even Charlie boy with his twisted mentality spoke against the useless agitation. What a sad day for them.
is charlie boy an ipob member?
Celebrities › Re: I Will Never Support Biafra - Charlie Boy by donborg(m): 8:32am On Apr 21, 2017
Smooyis:
I have always maintained here that division of the country is more near impossibility than possibility.
if so then why are you reminding us? let me guess, becos u dont want us to work for it right? dreamer
Celebrities › Re: I Will Never Support Biafra - Charlie Boy by donborg(m): 8:29am On Apr 21, 2017
Weselion:
Nwannem I tire oo.... They hate Yoruba's but like like Yoruba land. People that don't know what is worrying them.

Every year you see people trooping from the east to the west and north. You begin to wonder, is it this same people that are complaining that Nigeria does not favor them?
tell nizooria to open the portharcourt, calabar and warri ports and see whether any right thinking igbo will ever set foot in lagos again
Celebrities › Re: I Will Never Support Biafra - Charlie Boy by donborg(m): 8:25am On Apr 21, 2017
[quote author=marticeus post=55756690]Charly boy really on point, the down trodden has no ethnic colouration, Nigerian masses are not together, they are used by the elite to perpetuate every form of man inhumanity against his fellow man. It is ironical, it is only in Nigeria that criminals are celebrated and when called to answer for their misdeeds, they will quickly put on their ethnic cloaks and cry marginalization. For those clamouring for Biafra as a way to escape from injustice will still meet another and bigger form of injustice waiting for them in Biafran. Let us simply observe the philosophy of Biafra of the mind. Let Biafra be the symbol of every Nigerian oppressed and marginalised be it Hausa, IBO, Yoruba or any of the minority ethnic group. I see a day coming when all the down trodden masses will wake up and demand for their God given right in this nation. A nation where one man locks up 13 billion naira equivalent in hard currency hausa, yoruba and igbo biafrans? you must be high on sumting
Celebrities › Re: I Will Never Support Biafra - Charlie Boy by donborg(m): 8:22am On Apr 21, 2017
YelloweWest:
I love this guy. He has sense.

Ipobs are delusional. I used to support them but when I figured out their delusion
pls explain d meaning of 'delusional'?
Celebrities › Re: I Will Never Support Biafra - Charlie Boy by donborg(m): 8:21am On Apr 21, 2017
Opakan2:
The real biafra fight ended long ago leaving behind a sad memory.. casualties were recorded on both sides even tho. one suffered the blow most.

The sensible ones have since moved on, even the overfed ceremonial soldier that led them to war later apologized and accepted State pardon. He took part in Nigerian elections thereafter.

These ones disturbing our peace now are PDP agents planted to stir up the polity and they have failed
then why is the one in prison giving y'all goosebumps?
Celebrities › Re: I Will Never Support Biafra - Charlie Boy by donborg(m): 8:18am On Apr 21, 2017
why is it that, for over 50 years now, our leaders keep saying ONE NIGERIA whereas, i have never heard of ONE AMERICA, ONE BRITAIN, ONE CANADA OR EVEN ONE GHANA? is it because they know that nigeria is already divided or that nigeria will still divide?
Politics › Re: Nigeria Will Never Break Up: Here Is Why by donborg(m): 9:45pm On Apr 20, 2017
[quote author=obiezed post=55744249]The innocent Eastern officers who had nothing to do with Nzeogwu's coup who were killed were given a chance sure??you are the one who misses the entire plot,
Ojukwu was an Ex-Nigerian soldier, he would have tried according to Martial Law,Nnamdi KANU is not and cannot be so tried.
If you think immediately after the war,he would have been spared,you are definitely on a very long thing.
P.s Ojukwu never agitated for Biafra,in his case ,it was a resppnsibility thrust upon him.thats why no igbo who lived thru the war blames him for it.stop miscontruing simple history.the Man lived and died believing he tried tthe best he could for his people,thats why he's remembered as a hero. tried his best my foot. why didnt he speak up for ken saro wiwa when abacha tried to kill d poor man for agitating for d ogonis which wouldve saved d poor mans life just like d avengers demanded for nnamdi's release. ojukwu is a coward, scammer and a warmonger.hero my foot.
Politics › Re: Nigeria Will Never Break Up: Here Is Why by donborg(m): 10:47am On Apr 20, 2017
bantudra:
if the law sentence him to death then you can not call us murderers....ntor....
so easy to say...by the way which law are they going to sentence him with?.....sharia law?.......hahahahahahahahaha
Politics › Re: Nigeria Will Never Break Up: Here Is Why by donborg(m): 10:11am On Apr 20, 2017
bantudra:
well..you want to test our resolve......nigeria can not be divided..no chance...

we are ready to even declare war on america and perish than allow biafra to exist on nigerian soil....
by all means necessary......hahahahahahahahahaha. maybe nigeria should start by killing nnamdi kanu, then u can have your war
Politics › Re: Nigeria Will Never Break Up: Here Is Why by donborg(m): 9:51am On Apr 20, 2017
bantudra:
we dont have to do much..ipob will destroy itself....its up to igbos to believe ipob and declare war on nigeria....
you do you people want war by all means?
Politics › Re: Nigeria Will Never Break Up: Here Is Why by donborg(m): 9:36am On Apr 20, 2017
bantudra:
its like going to a police station and saying you dont believe in the laws of the police officers... grin

you would be in big trouble if you try that in their face... grin
Politics › Re: Nigeria Will Never Break Up: Here Is Why by donborg(m): 9:36am On Apr 20, 2017
bantudra:
its like going to a police station and saying you dont believe in the laws of the police officers... grin

you would be in big trouble if you try that in their face... grin
everybody knows that the fraudulent fulani made nigerian constitution cannot last forever. infact the earlier it is destroyed, the better for all involved
Politics › Re: Nigeria Will Never Break Up: Here Is Why by donborg(m): 9:33am On Apr 20, 2017
bantudra:
its like going to a police station and saying you dont believe in the laws of the police officers... grin

you would be in big trouble if you try that in their face... grin
everybody knows that the fraudulent nigerian constitution cannot last forever. infact the sooner it is destroyed, the better for all
Politics › Re: Nigeria Will Never Break Up: Here Is Why by donborg(m): 9:27am On Apr 20, 2017
[quote author=bantudra post=5573

you still have a chance solong nigeria still practice democracy....but the day military rule returns,then that door will be closed.
setting nations against nigeria is a very bad idea....nigeria will only become more militaristic....and i think that will happen sooner than later..capital punishment is back....the longer kanu stays in prison,the more the chance will grow that he will be sentenced to death....

understand who you are dealing with here....nigeria is not some backwater black nation in africa.....
we have tribes here that only understand how to fight and quarrel...

you think the yorubas,hausas,isokos,urhobos,tivs,sultanates,obas,emirs will go easy on you because you mention western nations....??. quit this ur mind games. do u think it is easy to do a coup now? or easier to kill the leader of 70 million igbos all over the world. u must be high on sumting.
Politics › Re: Nigeria Will Never Break Up: Here Is Why by donborg(m): 9:19am On Apr 20, 2017
bantudra:
infiltrating??...what do you mean with infiltrating ipobhuh?...i dont get it... undecided
lemme explain better, why are you people hell bent on destroying ipob for inside
Politics › Re: Nigeria Will Never Break Up: Here Is Why by donborg(m): 9:15am On Apr 20, 2017
[quote author=obiezed post=55734583][/quote]you miss the whole point. while it is true that ojukwu would be courtmartialled and killed if caught, gowon would have struck a deal with him to drop biafra agitation in exchange for his freedom in spite of his sins because the right of self determination is a universal human right that anyone can always take up if you feel u dont want to be a part of a union. have u asked urself why buhari arrested ojukwu in 1983 despite not being a politician? it was pure blackmail. and ojukwu was not courageous enough to resist the blackmail by sacrificing his liberty and freedom for biafra so he dropped the biafran agitation once and for all which in turn made biafran agitation to fall apart until nnamdi kanu started it again. dont u see the way nnamdi kanu carries himself in court as if he is buhari's mate? it is because he knows that unlike ojukwu, he committed no crime by demanding the right of self determination. do you now see why ojukwu's death is a blessing?
Politics › Re: Nigeria Will Never Break Up: Here Is Why by donborg(m): 8:47am On Apr 20, 2017
bantudra:
its just the way it is...you can mess around and talk about the nigerian constitution the way you like...but if things become too desperate,the nigerians will use the constitution on you....the constitution is the legit law on nigerian soil...

if you like take it serious,if you dont like,who cares....but that will not stop nigerians using it on you...
constitution my foot. we igbos reject the constitution of a fulani man in jesus name. amen
Politics › Re: Nigeria Will Never Break Up: Here Is Why by donborg(m): 8:45am On Apr 20, 2017
bantudra:
because am a nice guy and not that angry with igbos,i will give una a tipp:

try to change the nigerian constitution to allow una to go,but this will take decades...

the other option is quicker,declare biafra and prepare for war and bloody win this time!!!!..

YOU MUST WIN THE WAR THIS TIME!!!....or else,good night...
then why are you people begging nnamdi kanu to give up his biafran agitation? why are u people infiltrating ipob?
Politics › Re: Nigeria Will Never Break Up: Here Is Why by donborg(m): 8:31am On Apr 20, 2017
power resides where men thinks it resides. if ojukwu was killed, the igbos will simply look for another leader who may be better than ojukwu because nature abhors a vacuum. now if u were gowon would u be willing to take that risk? my broda, have u asked urself why adaka boro was not killed by aguiyi ironsi?. y do u think that nnamdi kanu became the leader of the igbos barely five yrs after the death of ojukwu? nature abhors a vacuum my brother
Politics › Re: Nigeria Will Never Break Up: Here Is Why by donborg(m): 9:47pm On Apr 19, 2017
bantudra:
they seem to dont understand that simple fact...biafra is a illegal dream.....
if ojukwu had played by d rules just like nnamdi kanu is doing now, we wouldve had biafra by now. if he never escaped, he would neva have been killed (another leader like nnamdi kanu would have risen if he were killed) but he will be imprisoned (just like awolowo and adaka boro) and if he neva gave up biafra, he will eventually be granted his wish just like nelson mandela was granted his wish. the problem with ojukwu was that he was never willing to personally sacrifice his liberty for the igbos which later made him to eat his vomit. he was also neither a principled man nor a man of his words. infact, he is more of a fraudster and a 419er than a leader which is d reason why nnamdi kanu was not initially trusted by d igbos when he started his quest for biafra. so far nnamdi kanu has not surrendered so hopefully, things will work out well when released
Politics › Re: Nigeria Will Never Break Up: Here Is Why by donborg(m): 9:19pm On Apr 19, 2017
[quote author=Ugosample post=55724626]This is the same thing I have been trying to say.
Ojukwu waking up one morning to declare independence was treason, and that act was a declaration of war.
Dragged my people for 30 months in a war that obviously they were not prepared for, and oblivious of the dire consequences of yhat foolish act.And instead of the coward to surrender months before to end the suffering of the people, he let that thing drag on, now see the messThat said, the sad reality of this topic is that Nigeria cannot split, as there is no provision for that in the constitution, the only way to split is war, and that is not an option because of Syria tragedy
And as long as Britain lives, they will never assent to a U.N. backed referendum, because they will rather work with the certain, or status quo, than try out an experiment into uncertainty.
So the reality is that this country will remain the same.
We just have to work out how we can live together Biafra shall come whether dey like it or not
Politics › Re: Nigeria Will Never Break Up: Here Is Why by donborg(m): 9:03pm On Apr 19, 2017
pchukwudi:
No authority has the legitimacy to deprive indegineous people the righr to self determination. No law under the sun is superior to the need for preservation of lives (even if it means bearing arms to preserve those lives).

If you cannot understand those two points, then keep on fanning the embers of anarchy.
killing and chasing a group of people from your land is not d same thing as invading a group of peoples land and killing them in their own land. d legitimacy that gowon needed to invade and kill in our land was if ojukwu should stupidly break d law by seceeding (which is an act of war). hassan katsina actually dared him to seceed at aburi and he foolishly obliged because he is a warmonger
Politics › Re: Nigeria Will Never Break Up: Here Is Why by donborg(m): 8:33pm On Apr 19, 2017
pchukwudi:
Go and research your history, kid. The coup that brought Gowon to power failed totally in the Eastern region, so Ojukwu and the entire Eastern region never recognized Gowon (a junior soldier) as head of state prior to the war.

So when Nigeria systematically cleansed Eastern soldiers in both North and West, massacred tens of thousands of Eastern civilians in the North, and still had the guts to mess up the Aburi accord and other peace effort, it became morally and politically mandatory for Ojukwu and the Eastern region to declare independence, since it was clear that the Federal government was against the interest and security of the people of the Eastern region.
greivances or not, killings or no killings, d fact remains that ojukwu had no authority (although he had d power) to declare biafra, just like he had no authority(although he had the power) to slap his white teacher for racially abusing a fellow black student at kings college lagos
Politics › Re: Nigeria Will Never Break Up: Here Is Why by donborg(m): 8:21pm On Apr 19, 2017
pchukwudi:
Igbos cannot go to war to stop notherners from seccesion. Even Zik made that point clear prior to independence.
you are just beating about the bush by being clever by half. if hassan katsina seceded, it will be an affront on the authority of the federal govt led by aguiyi ironsi who will have no choice but to quell the secessionists just like he did to adaka boro and his niger delta republic. back to ur question abt zik, the act of independence as signed by awolowo, zik and ahmadu bello strictly stipulated that d secession of any of the 3 regions was an act of treason and an act of war(this was d main reason zik neva supported biafra). ojukwu clearly knew what he was going to get when he seceeded but as a warmonger he thought it better to sacrifice millions of lives instead of playing by the rules of the game.
Politics › Re: Nigeria Will Never Break Up: Here Is Why by donborg(m): 7:34pm On Apr 19, 2017
OjukwuWarBird:
Ojukwu will accept that

I can't speak for Ironsi
mind you this was before the pogroms of d igbos in northern nigeria. need i remind u also that the basis of ojukwus declaration of biafra was as a result of d killings. so answer my question objectively

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