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I believe religion has a big role to play in our underdevelopment, Imagine when a youth is thinking about how the rapture can happen anytime from now instead of thinking of what he can do to make life easier not only for himself but his children's children. The Religious has traded this life for the afterlife... |
pressplay411:Firstly, I said "still" donnffd:Secondly, Almost everywhere in the world, people hear stories of vampires, does that mean its true?, or what about aliens, what about mermaids?, Every culture as some form of these myths but we all know these things dont exist because no single evidence for them, so it is with the witches. |
luvmijeje:i sincerely dont understand your point here, are you saying the "golden rule" is not objective or what?, there wasnt a coherent message in this paragraph. Oh No! Another scientific jargons. Don't give me that crap. You cram and downloaded a textbook and you can't can't explain it to the public who are majorly not scientists. My questions.... What's are the name of the chemicals? What's neurotransmitters and what's his relationship to this thread? I'm not doing any Google search, you said it and you should get ready to defend it. When you question the Bible, I didn't ask you to goggle it.Well i have had my fair share of arguments on this forum and one thing i have noticed is that no matter the explanation you give to someone who has a different opinion, he or she would still counter it, so i decided that i would try and refer the person to do the research on his or her own so that they would come about the information by themselves and not be told about it which they seem to hate so much. FYI, you know nothing about me for you to claim i crammed and downloaded a textbook. So man got to earth through cosmic lottery. prove it? Who was the first man to mistakenly wander himself into the planet earth? How did he get here? What mode did he use to get here?When pastafarian said we all won a cosmic lottery, he ddnt mean it literally, he meant it figuratively, i.e the odds of our existence is so slim it is comparable to a grand-size cosmic lottery, so cosmic lottery is just a figurative speech here, nevertheless, noone knows for sure how we came about but in the 400years of studing science, we have gotten real clues and evidence that we are almost certain how we came to be. I am sure you have heard of a term called Evolution, that is another scientific term i most certainly wont explain to you because i know at the end, you would call it a lie, so all i would do is to advice you to google and get the information for yourself. |
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Posts like this makes me wonder if there is any hope for humanity left... ![]() |
SMH Be there and be talking about fairy tales while your mates in the developed world are:- - putting heads together in finding cure for cancer - looking for ways to stop aging - building stronger and better telescopes to probe to beginning of the universe and find life on other planets - engineers are building the next generation of cars which would be run solely on electricity - finding how to reduce burning fossil fuels and invest more in solar energy - computer scientists are working day and night to see AI become a reality which would catapult the human race to a new era - planning the next stage for human colonization on mars and you are here talking about rapture, WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH AFRICANS?, cant you see the world moving ahead and leaving us behind? |
pressplay411:There is no real evidence for reincarnation There is no real evidence for odeshi (I would like to carry out that experiment with an AK47) There is no real evidence for witches(Only in Africa and other poor places with ignorance do you still hear about such things, why are they always old women?...smh) There is no real evidence that killing someone or miming their body parts would make you rich, the people who do this are either terribly deceived or stupidly ignorant (its the both in my opinion). |
luvmijeje:I would try and answer some of the questions you asked with my limited knowledge. My questions. What are the proposed objective method?How about we try this, "Do unto others what you would want others to do unto you". Is that objective enough for you?, and please dont tell me it can also be found in the bible, while i agree, it by no means originated with the bible, it can be traced by to conficious... Ha! So it's little spark of energy and chemical reaction that produces our personalities and consciousness. I'm just reading this for the first time. My questions.. .. ..The problem alot of Nigerians have is that they know very little about science and when someone talks about it, the person is seen as a dullard, its really strange, thats why we dont innovate in this part of the world. Yes, he was correct, chemicals control your emotions and feelings, and most likely are involved in the creation of consciousness. Have you ever heard of Neurotransmitters?, if you havent, please just do a quick google search, it would help you alot. Ha! You won cosmic lottery to get to the point? Is this logical? Are you sure you're an Atheist?Yes, we did win a cosmic lottery to get here, do you know the chances for your parents to meet given the number of other potential partners?, do you know the chances of your parents having sex the exact moment they did that you got conceived?, do you know the chances of the sperm cell that formed reaching its destination first? Yes, we won an incredible lottery with overwhelming odds and yes it wasnt designed because if things had gone a little differently, someone else would be here and not you and the world would not have even noticed your absence. |
kaybams1:is it that you ddnt read what i wrote or what, when did i say atheist and agnostics mean the same thing? I am not here to argue with you, i saw a fallacy in your post and wanted to show you your mistake, its left for you to correct it. Finally, if the two are so mutually exclusive, why do some people like Richard dawkins who is the worlds most famous atheist regards himself as an agnostic... Understand concepts before you talk... |
While you might have spent some time thinking about these issues, i doubt you have done research on the terms you think you know much about, so let me just give you some pointers. Theist : Someone who believes in the existence of a certain God or Gods Atheist : Someone who reject the existence of a certain God or Gods Agnostic : Someone who claims he/she has no sufficient information to make a definite claim Now if you look at the definitions, an atheist and an agnostic are not mutually exclusive, and that is because the atheist is not making a claim, he/she is REJECTING a claim that has been presented towards him/her. So the idea that an atheist claims that "There is no God" is a pure myth and that is the propaganda that theists like to carry around. I would use this illustration to make my point clear, Imagine you are holding a sack full of sand, and then i walked up to you and tell you that there are an EVEN number of grains in that sack, you ask me how do i know, i reply by saying "BY FAITH", then you reject it by saying "i dont believe it, no evidence", then i ask you, "Are you saying that there are ODD number of grains?" What would be your answer? NB: Just because you reject a claim doesnt mean you are automatically claiming the opposite... |
I doubt this can work, Tesla already has auto-pilot on the road and would have full self-driving autonomy with the model 3 in 2018 and i am sure many companies would follow closely after that, this idea just seems too unrealistic to even take effect |
777philosopher:WTF did i just read? |
blueAgent: felixomor: felixomor: blueAgent:smh...k |
if Allah is so great and real, then why dont christians, jews, hindus and all other religious people believe he exists? |
I think trying to explain evolution to an ignorant mind who doesnt know he/she is ignorant is a pure waste of time...my opinion though |
The only thing more childish than having an imaginary friend in the sky is having an imaginary enemy in the ground... |
annunaki2:Oh ok, Christianity is based on the New testament and the old testament is ancient, i get that alot but you fail to realize something 1. God is the same yesterday, today and forever...and so he never changes and if thats correct, then why did he change his mind on the old testament?, what was he even thinking when he was inspiring it? 2. The New testament still condones slavery 3. If God wants to forgive yours sins, why didnt he forgive it, why did he have to come down as a man, kill himself as a sacrifice to himself just so he can forgive your sins?...smh Please just realize that there is nothing fundamentally different between Christianity and Islam... |
annunaki2:What makes you think Christianity does not have teachings that are very similar to terrorism? How about suffer not a witch to live? how about if you see your neighbor working on the sabbath, stone him to death? how about slaves obey your master? how about the bible saying its ok to kill all the non-virgins, rape the virgins and then kill them of the conquered how about the homophobic verses in the bible? so many more...Christianity is just as violent, barbaric and primitive as Islam is, so dont sugar-coat it! |
annunaki2:And what seperates "radical" christians and "radical" muslims in that regard? i would assume you are talking about radical muslims because i feel you would be intelligent enough to know that not all muslims in the world would do that... |
annunaki2:oh really?, do enlighten me! |
alBHAGDADI:I would agree, Obama is not a christian but i would disagree that he was and always was a muslim, No sir, Obama was even worse, he was an atheist. |
shadeyinka:Come to think about it, if Genesis was true and we are all descendants of Adam and eve, then God had planned from the beginning to populate the world through incest...what do you have to say about that? |
shadeyinka:Lets look at it this way, is there a name reserved for "Non-football fans"?, is there a set of beliefs holding them together?, the simple answer is No, its either you are a football fan or not, and if you are not. its not like you must qualify some set of qualities to be a "Non-football fan". Just the same way works with "Non-theism", its just too controversial that a word was created for it but in practical reality, the only opinion you should have as an atheist is to reject the belief of supernatural gods. Now, many atheists use logic and science in their explanation, that's why you might think that its a pre-requisite of atheism but there are still people who are not as logically and scientifically inclined but still reject the belief in gods. I have tried to use atheistic kind of reasoning to arrive at a conclusion to which I believe I'm correct. The problem was simplified by saying "pregnancy/inbreeding" is not involved.I agree with most of what you have said here, theistic culture is no doubt a big influence in our lives even as atheists but we should make a clear distinction between what is wrong(or should i say offense) in the society and what is wrong in the eyes of God. A Sin doesn't necessarily mean its an offense for example: A man cheats on his wife, in the eyes of God, that's a sin but to the society its not, he wont be jailed because he did not cause any harm to anyone, although he broke a contract with his wife which would mean he would lose a lot in the divorce settlements but that's just a quarrel between two parties and it has nothing to do with the society at large. Homosexuality is another sin to God but it is not an offense(or should not be an offense) to the society because it is not causing harm to anyone. So differentiating the sin and the offense is crucial and we presently live in an integrated world, a world of democracy and free thought, freedom of religion and irreligion. Using what is a sin(to God) to pass laws would be a very big mistake in our present civilization i am sure you would agree. So you see that I am right.Yes, there is nothing wrong inherently with it as long as it is between two consenting adults, and yes, it being disgusting is my own subjective view of it, but when we want to pass laws as a society, we have to use logic and reason and most certainly not faith. Allowing sex between family members should be looked at from a societal and long term effect point of view, we have to debate and reason out what would be the right solution to deal with it and pretending that its a black or white question and should just have a straight-forward answer would be a grave mistake. In Nature it happens, and it most likely was the reason why we humans didnt go extinct some 200,000 years ago, yes, Inbreeding but we live in a more technologically advanced world now and so it would be a lot complicated but the best way to go about it would be to debate about it and use logic and reason to make informed choices that would help the civilization and not base our choice on some old ancient text and its idea of sacrilege. So yes, if the world was atheistic and we used Logic and scientific reason in a democratic way to enact laws and policies, our civilization would take a giant leap forward into progress and prosperity. |
shadeyinka:Lol, Front page, that was really quick... Nice question and very mind-buggling... Now, lets get one thing straight, Atheism is not a religion,Atheism doesnt have an opinion on anything because it is not an organization or a set of beliefs, infact the word should not even exist but sadly it does, that doesnt change the fact that it cannot describe anything other than someone who lack the belief in a supernatural creator. With that being said, individual atheists can have their opinions on matters like this and if we were in a world where there are no religions, what would be the fate of incest?. Just like every other topic, it would be debated and voted upon by people who would use science and reason to form their opinion. So whats my personal opinion on the matter?, well generally speaking, there is nothing inherently wrong about incest(apart that its very disguisting), but should it be allowed in the society?, and my answer would be NO, why?, well i get my cue from biology, when siblings mate and produce offsprings, those offsprings are far more likely to acquire a high number of mutations because the gene diversity is pretty much low, thereby causing such child a very painful existence. I believe everyone should do what they want to do as long as it doesnt harm or intrude on others and in the case of incest, we clearly see that it can have a very big effect on someone else other than the parties involved so in that case i would vote against it. |
felixomor:Time is the measurement of events in sequence and it also quantifies that rate of change of quantities in material reality. The idea that time had a beginning is gotten from the concept of relativity where space and time is interwoven into one cloth and time is just a temporal dimension of the spacetime continuum. Since spacetime is expanding, it means it must have started from somewhere hence the idea of time had a beginning. Your statement about how something outside spacetime has no creator is a very nonsensical idea because spacetime is all there is and know, so how you can make a claim like that is just beyond comprehension, and the fact that something can exist is a direct function of its ability to occupy space and experience time, so a being which is spaceless and timeless is by definition non-existent. Now i am ready to concede this and state i am wrong when you bring me evidence that something that is spaceless and timeless can and do infact exist, then we can have a reasonable conversation until then, stay curious. |
felixomor:Lol Did you think you did anything with that post?, i asked to define it in physics terms and since you cant do that oh high intellectual guru, i would ask a simpler question, what do you define has creation? |
felixomor:Do you really think you are making any logical sense? I dont even think you understand the concepts in which you are assuming high intellectual prowess! From a physics point of view, can you explain what time is? |
felixomor:Ofcourse the majority scientific consensus is that time had a beginning but your conclusion is plainly illogical. Please i want you to tell me with clear explanation how anything outside time can exist without a creator! |
felixomor:Thats the exact reason why he regrets that kind of creator in the first place...a creator who cant explain his beginnings, cant be experimentally tested and frankly there is no prove or suggestion that such a being exist or can even exist. Which scientist would base his hypothesis on such an incredible and unrealistic claim? |
I have noticed that its the people that are not into the mmm that are the people who carry the matter pass on their head... |
Smallville10:No...not at all |
I am sorry to say but this thread shows ignorance... Richard dawkins is a scientist and he acknowledges that he doesnt know how life started just like any scientist would do but he also has hypotheses just like every other person. He obviously doesnt rule out the possibility of some intelligent alien race seeding earth with life but he also knows that if that was the case, then that intelligent alien race would also need to explain where they came from, they cannot just come out of nowhere(like the way theists claims about God). So he is very open-minded and very logical, you cant claim that if life was created by a certain creator, then it means the creator had no creator, that is very illogical and plainly mischievous, if truly there was a creator, then that creator should also have had to come from somewhere. |
