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Christianity EtcRe: Is Religion Affecting Nigeria's Developments by donnffd(m): 3:30pm On Mar 23, 2017
I believe religion has a big role to play in our underdevelopment, Imagine when a youth is thinking about how the rapture can happen anytime from now instead of thinking of what he can do to make life easier not only for himself but his children's children.

The Religious has traded this life for the afterlife...
Christianity EtcRe: Can Anyone Explain These? by donnffd(m): 8:11am On Mar 23, 2017
pressplay411:
Witches are not localised to only Africa and other poor places, I'm sure you've watched movies of witches being burnt on a stake.
But I agree there's no evidence. But I'm sure you agree these stories prevail, but how come every family seems to grow with this knowledge.
Firstly, I said "still"
donnffd:
There is no real evidence for witches(Only in Africa and other poor places with ignorance do you still hear about such things, why are they always old women?...smh)
Secondly, Almost everywhere in the world, people hear stories of vampires, does that mean its true?, or what about aliens, what about mermaids?, Every culture as some form of these myths but we all know these things dont exist because no single evidence for them, so it is with the witches.
Christianity EtcRe: Rebuttal: Atheism Can Make The World A Better Place by donnffd(m): 8:38pm On Mar 22, 2017
luvmijeje:
donnffd

Is not objective? Whether it originate from the Bible or not is a non-issue. But was it one of the commandments Jesus gave to his followers.. .. . A big Yes.
I'll also give you an live illustration. I detest lies,I hate it when people lie to me. Because I detest it, I definitely don't lie to people . What you can't accept don't do it to others. How's that not objective?
i sincerely dont understand your point here, are you saying the "golden rule" is not objective or what?, there wasnt a coherent message in this paragraph.


Oh No! Another scientific jargons. Don't give me that crap. You cram and downloaded a textbook and you can't can't explain it to the public who are majorly not scientists. My questions.... What's are the name of the chemicals? What's neurotransmitters and what's his relationship to this thread? I'm not doing any Google search, you said it and you should get ready to defend it. When you question the Bible, I didn't ask you to goggle it.
Well i have had my fair share of arguments on this forum and one thing i have noticed is that no matter the explanation you give to someone who has a different opinion, he or she would still counter it, so i decided that i would try and refer the person to do the research on his or her own so that they would come about the information by themselves and not be told about it which they seem to hate so much.

FYI, you know nothing about me for you to claim i crammed and downloaded a textbook.


So man got to earth through cosmic lottery. prove it? Who was the first man to mistakenly wander himself into the planet earth? How did he get here? What mode did he use to get here?
When pastafarian said we all won a cosmic lottery, he ddnt mean it literally, he meant it figuratively, i.e the odds of our existence is so slim it is comparable to a grand-size cosmic lottery, so cosmic lottery is just a figurative speech here, nevertheless, noone knows for sure how we came about but in the 400years of studing science, we have gotten real clues and evidence that we are almost certain how we came to be.

I am sure you have heard of a term called Evolution, that is another scientific term i most certainly wont explain to you because i know at the end, you would call it a lie, so all i would do is to advice you to google and get the information for yourself.
Christianity EtcRe: Suicide Is Murder And A Murderer Is A Killer- Nigerians Take Note by donnffd(m): 3:46pm On Mar 22, 2017
NPComplete:
Religious Nigerians are basically idiots. Evidence show that people are getting more depressed by the day and committing suicide as a result. Instead of these religious freaks to seek ways to address the source of this depression and provide advice about how to get help, they start quoting empty bible passages. As if those people who committed suicide hadn't ever read the scriptures before taking their own lives.
If the bible telling people not to lie or commit fornication didn't stop them committing it; hell it didnt even stop some pastors from tapping humongous asses, why the heck do u think quoting scriptures here will be of any use to the really depressed? Clowns.

Christianity EtcRe: Facts About Earth And Aliens by donnffd(m): 3:42pm On Mar 22, 2017
Posts like this makes me wonder if there is any hope for humanity left... huh
Christianity EtcRe: See What Will Happen After The Rapture by donnffd(m): 3:37pm On Mar 22, 2017
SMH

Be there and be talking about fairy tales while your mates in the developed world are:-

- putting heads together in finding cure for cancer
- looking for ways to stop aging
- building stronger and better telescopes to probe to beginning of the universe and find life on other planets
- engineers are building the next generation of cars which would be run solely on electricity
- finding how to reduce burning fossil fuels and invest more in solar energy
- computer scientists are working day and night to see AI become a reality which would catapult the human race to a new era
- planning the next stage for human colonization on mars

and you are here talking about rapture, WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH AFRICANS?, cant you see the world moving ahead and leaving us behind?
Christianity EtcRe: Can Anyone Explain These? by donnffd(m): 2:51pm On Mar 22, 2017
pressplay411:
Funny it all started with the recent suicide by the doctor that jumped off the 3rd mainland bridge. Some felt it was a spiritual attack.
It suddenly culminated into argument with some colleagues and these questions posed a conundrum. Any explanations?

1. Reincarnation
We've heard stories of a husband whose wife decided to trace his background by going to his hometown with his picture only to be told he had died years ago and was even taken to his burial ground. Upon return to her home, the husband had vanished and never to be seen again.

2. Odeshi
I'm sure we've all heard that bullets bounced of certain warriors, armed robbers and even cultists. How does this Odeshi work?

3. Witchcraft & Marine Spirits
No matter where you grew up in the world, there's a witch near you. Usual suspects are the old women and the very young. Of course there's always one confession in church.
And we've all heard of men who picked up hitchhikers only for them to transform in the middle of the night.

4. Rituals
The name Ezeego rings bells across the nation for money rituals. People go to extreme lengths to escape poverty. From sacrificing close relatives to kidnapping unlucky victims, one-chance buses, etc.

Are these mere hearsays or actual occurences?
I'm of the opinion that Nollywood is to blame but my colleagues claim they know some people who experienced these.
There is no real evidence for reincarnation
There is no real evidence for odeshi (I would like to carry out that experiment with an AK47)
There is no real evidence for witches(Only in Africa and other poor places with ignorance do you still hear about such things, why are they always old women?...smh)
There is no real evidence that killing someone or miming their body parts would make you rich, the people who do this are either terribly deceived or stupidly ignorant (its the both in my opinion).
Christianity EtcRe: Rebuttal: Atheism Can Make The World A Better Place by donnffd(m): 2:37pm On Mar 22, 2017
luvmijeje:
This is a rebuttal to a post by Pastafarian and you can find the post on this thread
https://www.nairaland.com/3523542/atheism-make-world-better-place#52001526
Okayyyyy.. .. .. .. .. So let's go.
You have done my conclusion. Atheism doesn't make the world a better. So let's talk humanism which the Atheist have not yet adopted. So let's move on.
I would try and answer some of the questions you asked with my limited knowledge.

My questions. What are the proposed objective method?
So how can food, shelter, sociality increase aid morality? So much questions. Let's go on.
How about we try this, "Do unto others what you would want others to do unto you". Is that objective enough for you?, and please dont tell me it can also be found in the bible, while i agree, it by no means originated with the bible, it can be traced by to conficious...

Ha! So it's little spark of energy and chemical reaction that produces our personalities and consciousness. I'm just reading this for the first time. My questions.. .. ..
What's the name of the energy? What's the name of the chemical? What causes the chemical to react? What makes the chemical impulses to stop? I'm sure I'll have a lot of follow up questions.
The problem alot of Nigerians have is that they know very little about science and when someone talks about it, the person is seen as a dullard, its really strange, thats why we dont innovate in this part of the world.

Yes, he was correct, chemicals control your emotions and feelings, and most likely are involved in the creation of consciousness. Have you ever heard of Neurotransmitters?, if you havent, please just do a quick google search, it would help you alot.


Ha! You won cosmic lottery to get to the point? Is this logical? Are you sure you're an Atheist?
Yes, we did win a cosmic lottery to get here, do you know the chances for your parents to meet given the number of other potential partners?, do you know the chances of your parents having sex the exact moment they did that you got conceived?, do you know the chances of the sperm cell that formed reaching its destination first?

Yes, we won an incredible lottery with overwhelming odds and yes it wasnt designed because if things had gone a little differently, someone else would be here and not you and the world would not have even noticed your absence.
Christianity EtcRe: A Case For Agnosticism by donnffd(m): 5:39am On Mar 21, 2017
kaybams1:
Hmmmm... Am not too sure you have heard about a null and alternative hypothesis in research. If my research topic is 'investigating the existence of God' and my null hypothesis is saying 'God's existence is false'. The alternative hypothesis will always give a counter claim which is 'God's existence is true'. It's when you have defined that you can arrive at any conclusion in the first place. You rejecting a hypothesis cos it's structure has flaws in it but cannot provide an alternative hypothesis makes you an agnostic not an atheist. Atheists DO NOT BELIEVE GOD EXISTS. Agnostics accept that they do not have the sufficient information to be on any side. So there is a difference.
is it that you ddnt read what i wrote or what, when did i say atheist and agnostics mean the same thing?

I am not here to argue with you, i saw a fallacy in your post and wanted to show you your mistake, its left for you to correct it.

Finally, if the two are so mutually exclusive, why do some people like Richard dawkins who is the worlds most famous atheist regards himself as an agnostic...

Understand concepts before you talk...
Christianity EtcRe: A Case For Agnosticism by donnffd(m): 2:25pm On Mar 20, 2017
While you might have spent some time thinking about these issues, i doubt you have done research on the terms you think you know much about, so let me just give you some pointers.

Theist : Someone who believes in the existence of a certain God or Gods

Atheist : Someone who reject the existence of a certain God or Gods

Agnostic : Someone who claims he/she has no sufficient information to make a definite claim


Now if you look at the definitions, an atheist and an agnostic are not mutually exclusive, and that is because the atheist is not making a claim, he/she is REJECTING a claim that has been presented towards him/her.

So the idea that an atheist claims that "There is no God" is a pure myth and that is the propaganda that theists like to carry around.

I would use this illustration to make my point clear, Imagine you are holding a sack full of sand, and then i walked up to you and tell you that there are an EVEN number of grains in that sack, you ask me how do i know, i reply by saying "BY FAITH", then you reject it by saying "i dont believe it, no evidence", then i ask you, "Are you saying that there are ODD number of grains?"

What would be your answer?

NB: Just because you reject a claim doesnt mean you are automatically claiming the opposite...
Car TalkRe: Self-driving Volkswagen Sedric Concept To Be Available In 2025 (photo) by donnffd(m): 12:01pm On Mar 08, 2017
I doubt this can work, Tesla already has auto-pilot on the road and would have full self-driving autonomy with the model 3 in 2018 and i am sure many companies would follow closely after that, this idea just seems too unrealistic to even take effect
Christianity EtcRe: Warning To The Entire Black Race- The Enemies Are Using Our Women Against Us. by donnffd(m): 3:55pm On Feb 24, 2017
777philosopher:
this is a warning to the entire black race, especially to Black Africans Men living in Africa. our enemies the non black race are now using our women against us. they use feminist attitude, fake women rights , homosexuality, lesbianism , and all kinds of things like putting the woman above a man in the society. they use the marriage method like polyandry, and encourage married women to commit adultery. their by given the women unnecessary rights. this demonic ways
destroying our African ancestral traditions. be careful of non black races . they are the descendants of demonic angels that disobeyed Almighty GOD -AHAYAH in heaven. this set of humanoids are not real humans. but they were created with animal gene and fallen demon gene. they do not have soul. therefore they are useless to the earth. they have been trying to use tricks on us. my fellow Black African Men just be wise . do not allow any of this non black to deceive you. they want to take all the lands from us. by setting ours to fight each other. they will cause confusion among our own people. Be Wise, and think properly .
WTF did i just read?
Christianity EtcRe: Fast-changing Killifish Swim Past Evolution. by donnffd(m): 5:07pm On Feb 17, 2017
blueAgent:
This is the definition of Evolution.

Evolution is change in the heritable
characteristics of biological populations over
successive generations. Evolutionary
processes give rise to biodiversity at every level of biological organisation, including the levels of species, individual organisms, and molecules.

The Question is where did the Heritable characteristics come from? where this organisms designed with this traits or they also Evolued to have this traits.

Remember your Evolution is telling us about how the traits in organisms transformed not how the intial triats came into existence.
felixomor:
Good question.
Especially considering the fact that DNA of man has remained thesame throughout human History.
By Now our DNA should have been different from that of the earlymen.
And yet they will tell you, you dont need faith to believe in evolution.

Mscheww
felixomor:
What makes you try is because your conscience knows its a lie.
Simple
blueAgent:
HaHaHa I laugh at you MR Evolution.

Like i said before the killfish did not Evolue or develop the ability to resist the pollutant. rather it had that ability already wheather it encountered polllutants or not.

With all the global warming and pollutants why has all the Birds and man not Evolued?
smh...k
Christianity EtcRe: Debunking Atheist Beliefs by donnffd(m): 10:30am On Feb 17, 2017
if Allah is so great and real, then why dont christians, jews, hindus and all other religious people believe he exists?
Christianity EtcRe: Fast-changing Killifish Swim Past Evolution. by donnffd(m): 10:18am On Feb 17, 2017
I think trying to explain evolution to an ignorant mind who doesnt know he/she is ignorant is a pure waste of time...my opinion though
Christianity EtcRe: A Simple Question To All Atheist... by donnffd(m): 10:42am On Feb 12, 2017
The only thing more childish than having an imaginary friend in the sky is having an imaginary enemy in the ground...
Christianity EtcRe: Obama Was Never Christian by donnffd(m): 9:30am On Jan 28, 2017
annunaki2:
Well if you don't know that Christianity is based on the teachings of christ and not old testament judaism just like Islam is based on the teachings of a terrorist called mohammed, there is little I can do to help you.
Oh ok, Christianity is based on the New testament and the old testament is ancient, i get that alot but you fail to realize something

1. God is the same yesterday, today and forever...and so he never changes and if thats correct, then why did he change his mind on the old testament?, what was he even thinking when he was inspiring it?

2. The New testament still condones slavery

3. If God wants to forgive yours sins, why didnt he forgive it, why did he have to come down as a man, kill himself as a sacrifice to himself just so he can forgive your sins?...smh


Please just realize that there is nothing fundamentally different between Christianity and Islam...
Christianity EtcRe: Obama Was Never Christian by donnffd(m): 3:03pm On Jan 27, 2017
annunaki2:
The big difference is that radical muslims are following the true teachings and example of their prophet who was also a terrorists whilst so called radical Christians are going directly against the teachings of christ. Islam instructs, encourages and eulogises terrorism whilst Christianity completely abhors it.
What makes you think Christianity does not have teachings that are very similar to terrorism?

How about suffer not a witch to live?
how about if you see your neighbor working on the sabbath, stone him to death?
how about slaves obey your master?
how about the bible saying its ok to kill all the non-virgins, rape the virgins and then kill them of the conquered
how about the homophobic verses in the bible?

so many more...Christianity is just as violent, barbaric and primitive as Islam is, so dont sugar-coat it!
Christianity EtcRe: Obama Was Never Christian by donnffd(m): 1:31pm On Jan 27, 2017
annunaki2:
At least atheist don't go around killing people for their beliefs or lack of it.
And what seperates "radical" christians and "radical" muslims in that regard?

i would assume you are talking about radical muslims because i feel you would be intelligent enough to know that not all muslims in the world would do that...
Christianity EtcRe: Obama Was Never Christian by donnffd(m): 9:46pm On Jan 25, 2017
annunaki2:
I don't agree with you, Islam is worse than atheism.
oh really?, do enlighten me!
Christianity EtcRe: Obama Was Never Christian by donnffd(m): 10:36am On Jan 25, 2017
alBHAGDADI:
Obama claims he converted to christianity but everything he does is contrary to christianity. He says his favourite sound is the islamic call to prayer. He criticizes the bible book of deutoronomy and supports LGBTQ.

Muslims are commanded by the quran to kill whoever leaves the islamic religion. Well, they can't in anyway tough a POTUS talkless of killing him. But why do they praise him every time he goes to the islamic world when they ought to boo him, to say the least? That's cos they know he never deserted Islam. He only sold AL TAQYYA to the west by telling them that he converted to christianity. That's why he helped further the muslim agenda.

WE ARE GLAD THAT THE UNPATRIOTIC FELLOW IS OUT OF OFFICE.
I would agree, Obama is not a christian but i would disagree that he was and always was a muslim, No sir, Obama was even worse, he was an atheist.
Christianity EtcRe: A World Without God And Death of Civilization! by donnffd(m): 11:23am On Dec 21, 2016
shadeyinka:
Now, my question was that suppose the whole world became atheist and the society accepts (using the full doctrine [I meant the unwritten principle] of atheism) would our civilization improve or diminish?

My postulate is that Most Civilization see incest as a sacrilage against the gods or the spirit of the land. It is a different class of crime which in those days would lead either to banishment or execution. That is incest is a theistic crime.
Come to think about it, if Genesis was true and we are all descendants of Adam and eve, then God had planned from the beginning to populate the world through incest...what do you have to say about that?
Christianity EtcRe: A World Without God And Death of Civilization! by donnffd(m): 8:42am On Dec 21, 2016
shadeyinka:
Hi Friend


Of course atheism isnt a religion that is why I put the word religion in quotes. The word religion was used as a replacement for the theistic position of religion which is adverse to theistic believes.
Atheism does have opinions and it is easy to see
1. It must be logical
2. It must be provable scientifically
3. It must be devoid of subjective information (God in particular)

Using this three rules, one can arrive at atheistic conclusion about anything. Agreed, atheism is complex, so complex that we can not use the logic of atheism to govern the world because we have the gnostic, agnostic, spiritists, satanists(philosophical) etc.
Lets look at it this way, is there a name reserved for "Non-football fans"?, is there a set of beliefs holding them together?, the simple answer is No, its either you are a football fan or not, and if you are not. its not like you must qualify some set of qualities to be a "Non-football fan".

Just the same way works with "Non-theism", its just too controversial that a word was created for it but in practical reality, the only opinion you should have as an atheist is to reject the belief of supernatural gods.

Now, many atheists use logic and science in their explanation, that's why you might think that its a pre-requisite of atheism but there are still people who are not as logically and scientifically inclined but still reject the belief in gods.


I have tried to use atheistic kind of reasoning to arrive at a conclusion to which I believe I'm correct. The problem was simplified by saying "pregnancy/inbreeding" is not involved.

So we have a 21 year old son and his 47 year old mum decide to have sex with each other consensually (they are using Goldcircle, Roughrider condom) so, no std ,no pregnancy.

Theists will say NO!:
Based on Moral and Spiritual argument . It is a sin! (subjective isn't it). Apart from biological reasons which has been knocked out, "no major reason"

Atheists will say YES!:
1. They are both adults
2. They had sex consensually
3. They practiced safe sex.

The concept of SIN doesn't exist in atheism. So, can anyone argue against the atheistic argument?

There is a complication however, Most atheists were not raised as Atheists in the earlier part of their lives. They had imbibed some theistic culture of right/wrong, moral/immoral and this prejudice them to sometimes act contrary to the silent rules which helped them to conclude on their stance of the lack the belief in a supernatural creator.
I agree with most of what you have said here, theistic culture is no doubt a big influence in our lives even as atheists but we should make a clear distinction between what is wrong(or should i say offense) in the society and what is wrong in the eyes of God.

A Sin doesn't necessarily mean its an offense for example:

A man cheats on his wife, in the eyes of God, that's a sin but to the society its not, he wont be jailed because he did not cause any harm to anyone, although he broke a contract with his wife which would mean he would lose a lot in the divorce settlements but that's just a quarrel between two parties and it has nothing to do with the society at large.

Homosexuality is another sin to God but it is not an offense(or should not be an offense) to the society because it is not causing harm to anyone.

So differentiating the sin and the offense is crucial and we presently live in an integrated world, a world of democracy and free thought, freedom of religion and irreligion. Using what is a sin(to God) to pass laws would be a very big mistake in our present civilization i am sure you would agree.


So you see that I am right.
-Your conclusion: There is nothing inherently wrong with icest (that is it is right).
-But it is disgusting (is that not a carryover of past theistic culturing?)
Why should it be disgusting? Your answer can only be subjective!


Now, my question was that suppose the whole world became atheist and the society accepts (using the full doctrine [I meant the unwritten principle] of atheism) would our civilization improve or diminish?

My postulate is that Most Civilization see incest as a sacrilage against the gods or the spirit of the land. It is a different class of crime which in those days would lead either to banishment or execution. That is incest is a theistic crime.
Yes, there is nothing wrong inherently with it as long as it is between two consenting adults, and yes, it being disgusting is my own subjective view of it, but when we want to pass laws as a society, we have to use logic and reason and most certainly not faith.

Allowing sex between family members should be looked at from a societal and long term effect point of view, we have to debate and reason out what would be the right solution to deal with it and pretending that its a black or white question and should just have a straight-forward answer would be a grave mistake.

In Nature it happens, and it most likely was the reason why we humans didnt go extinct some 200,000 years ago, yes, Inbreeding but we live in a more technologically advanced world now and so it would be a lot complicated but the best way to go about it would be to debate about it and use logic and reason to make informed choices that would help the civilization and not base our choice on some old ancient text and its idea of sacrilege.

So yes, if the world was atheistic and we used Logic and scientific reason in a democratic way to enact laws and policies, our civilization would take a giant leap forward into progress and prosperity.
Christianity EtcRe: A World Without God And Death of Civilization! by donnffd(m): 1:12pm On Dec 19, 2016
shadeyinka:
Civilization is defined as:
1. An organized culture encompassing many communities, often on the scale of a nation or a people;
2. A stage or system of social, political,or technical development.

Most of the cultural norms we have today have Theistic basis behind them. The concept of Morality is mostly theistic in origin.

Today, we have a culture that forbids incest almost throughout the world. I would want us to focus only on this vis-à-vis: The Wonderful Logics of Atheism and INCEST!

How you ever wondered how the world would be when Atheism becomes the worlds only "religion"?

Let's look at a typical Atheist logic about a theme as homosexuality. Most atheists are heterosexual BUT they see nothing wrong with Homosexuality because as far as they are concerned, as long as

1. The act of homosexuality is consensual
2. The Homosexuality is between Adults
3. The sexual act is hurting no one
Then, it should be respected as a NORMAL and VALID way of life and sexual expression.

Today, let's use the same logic for incest.
Fathers, Mothers, Children (adults) having consensual sex with each other as acceptable sexual orientation.

Now, to Atheists on Nairaland,(assuming pregnancy is ruled out)
Would incest be acceptable way of life?
Should this be encouraged ?
Would this be immoral?

Or (as a single question)

What is the stance of Atheism on Incest?

The answer you give will show us whether civilization will Collapse under the rule of Atheism or Advance.

I am sure that few atheists will respond to this: it is like giving them a rope to hang themselves.

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Lol, Front page, that was really quick...

Nice question and very mind-buggling...

Now, lets get one thing straight, Atheism is not a religion,Atheism doesnt have an opinion on anything because it is not an organization or a set of beliefs, infact the word should not even exist but sadly it does, that doesnt change the fact that it cannot describe anything other than someone who lack the belief in a supernatural creator.

With that being said, individual atheists can have their opinions on matters like this and if we were in a world where there are no religions, what would be the fate of incest?. Just like every other topic, it would be debated and voted upon by people who would use science and reason to form their opinion.

So whats my personal opinion on the matter?, well generally speaking, there is nothing inherently wrong about incest(apart that its very disguisting), but should it be allowed in the society?, and my answer would be NO, why?, well i get my cue from biology, when siblings mate and produce offsprings, those offsprings are far more likely to acquire a high number of mutations because the gene diversity is pretty much low, thereby causing such child a very painful existence.

I believe everyone should do what they want to do as long as it doesnt harm or intrude on others and in the case of incest, we clearly see that it can have a very big effect on someone else other than the parties involved so in that case i would vote against it.
Christianity EtcRe: So "Arc-atheist" Richard Dawkins Believes In The Possibility Of Higher IQ Alien? by donnffd(m): 11:11pm On Dec 17, 2016
felixomor:
Just say its hard.

For "creation", i will suggest u use dictionary.

I was only explaining time and how nothing is ever created without it.
Time is the measurement of events in sequence and it also quantifies that rate of change of quantities in material reality.

The idea that time had a beginning is gotten from the concept of relativity where space and time is interwoven into one cloth and time is just a temporal dimension of the spacetime continuum. Since spacetime is expanding, it means it must have started from somewhere hence the idea of time had a beginning.

Your statement about how something outside spacetime has no creator is a very nonsensical idea because spacetime is all there is and know, so how you can make a claim like that is just beyond comprehension, and the fact that something can exist is a direct function of its ability to occupy space and experience time, so a being which is spaceless and timeless is by definition non-existent.

Now i am ready to concede this and state i am wrong when you bring me evidence that something that is spaceless and timeless can and do infact exist, then we can have a reasonable conversation until then, stay curious.
Christianity EtcRe: So "Arc-atheist" Richard Dawkins Believes In The Possibility Of Higher IQ Alien? by donnffd(m): 10:54pm On Dec 17, 2016
felixomor:
Sorry.
I knew it will be hard for u.

Time is the basic unit for anything, including creation.

Its the commodity upon which evry other component of the universe rests.
Lol

Did you think you did anything with that post?, i asked to define it in physics terms and since you cant do that oh high intellectual guru, i would ask a simpler question, what do you define has creation?
Christianity EtcRe: So "Arc-atheist" Richard Dawkins Believes In The Possibility Of Higher IQ Alien? by donnffd(m): 10:42pm On Dec 17, 2016
felixomor:
Simple,
Creation is a time based concept.
Nothing is created without time.

I hope i am not sounding too high?
Do you really think you are making any logical sense?

I dont even think you understand the concepts in which you are assuming high intellectual prowess!

From a physics point of view, can you explain what time is?
Christianity EtcRe: So "Arc-atheist" Richard Dawkins Believes In The Possibility Of Higher IQ Alien? by donnffd(m): 10:35pm On Dec 17, 2016
felixomor:
Go and study the origin of time.
Scientists admit time has a beginning.

And Anything outside time can exist without a creator.
And clearly the bible makes us understand that God was there before time began.
Ofcourse the majority scientific consensus is that time had a beginning but your conclusion is plainly illogical.

Please i want you to tell me with clear explanation how anything outside time can exist without a creator!
Christianity EtcRe: So "Arc-atheist" Richard Dawkins Believes In The Possibility Of Higher IQ Alien? by donnffd(m): 10:28pm On Dec 17, 2016
felixomor:
And what if the creator existed before time, space and matter?
Thats the exact reason why he regrets that kind of creator in the first place...a creator who cant explain his beginnings, cant be experimentally tested and frankly there is no prove or suggestion that such a being exist or can even exist.

Which scientist would base his hypothesis on such an incredible and unrealistic claim?
Christianity EtcRe: Pastor Invested In MMM? It Is A Lie From The Pit Of Hell by donnffd(m): 9:07pm On Dec 17, 2016
I have noticed that its the people that are not into the mmm that are the people who carry the matter pass on their head...
Christianity EtcRe: I Want To Hear What Athiests Have To Say About This by donnffd(m): 8:59pm On Dec 17, 2016
Smallville10:
I would just like to ask a simple question... I just thought abt it and decided to share with our athiest friends..

DO U BELIEVE IN CURSES?

DO U BELIEVE IT CAN MANIFEST IN PEOPLE'S LIVES?

Hopefullandlord Hardmirror Seun Lennycool EyehateGod

All athiests pls come in
No...not at all
Christianity EtcRe: So "Arc-atheist" Richard Dawkins Believes In The Possibility Of Higher IQ Alien? by donnffd(m): 8:55pm On Dec 17, 2016
I am sorry to say but this thread shows ignorance...

Richard dawkins is a scientist and he acknowledges that he doesnt know how life started just like any scientist would do but he also has hypotheses just like every other person.

He obviously doesnt rule out the possibility of some intelligent alien race seeding earth with life but he also knows that if that was the case, then that intelligent alien race would also need to explain where they came from, they cannot just come out of nowhere(like the way theists claims about God).

So he is very open-minded and very logical, you cant claim that if life was created by a certain creator, then it means the creator had no creator, that is very illogical and plainly mischievous, if truly there was a creator, then that creator should also have had to come from somewhere.

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