Christianity Etc › Re: Bishop David Oyedepo And His Two Sons by Draxler: 7:59am On Jun 03, 2016 |
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Education › Re: Why You Should Attend A Private School by Draxler: 11:27pm On Apr 27, 2016 |
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Education › Re: 5 Reasons Not To Attend Private Institutions by Draxler: 5:41pm On Apr 27, 2016 |
banjo022: yea covenant university is a good sch no doubt.. wat abt other private uni I don't know about others. I know about CU because that's my Alma mater. However I'm sure other private schools aren't doing badly either. |
Education › Re: 5 Reasons Not To Attend Private Institutions by Draxler: 2:25pm On Apr 27, 2016 |
banjo022: am not a chemist.. but I can tell u chemistry graduates are making waves. I know of a project in Abu they converted sun energy (solar) into gas used for cooking.. mention 1 laudable project done in private uni Ill just mention a few. A covenant university graduate built a car a few years ago. I know a few that built drones in the electrical department. I've seen someone there that built a 'smart fridge' and I have seen goal line technology live because a friend worked on it as his final year project. Like I said I'll only mention a few. There are lots more. |
Education › Re: 5 Reasons Not To Attend Private Institutions by Draxler: 9:57am On Apr 27, 2016 |
Its unbelievable how public university graduates keep bashing us. I don't understand where the hate is coming from. |
Education › Re: 5 Reasons Not To Attend Private Institutions by Draxler: 9:54am On Apr 27, 2016 |
banjo022: Okay to study chemistry in covenant university its about 800k per annum and they have never invented anything not even anointing oil... I rather send my kids to study in south Africa than all these glorified secondary schools producing half baked graduates. What did your chemistry graduates invent in your public university? |
Education › Re: 7 Benefits Of Attending A Public University by Draxler: 8:49pm On Apr 26, 2016 |
I really don't understand the hate on those from private universities. We should stop arguing with our public university counterparts and prove them wrong by excelling in our fields. Thats all. |
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Education › Re: Reason For High Fees And Turnout Of First Class Graduates In Private Unis. by Draxler: 11:54am On Apr 11, 2016 |
Silvofitz: You mean that was your first and only attempt? As far as I know, more than 70% of the students in private universities in Nigeria had unsuccessfully tried to gain admission to public universities before retiring to fate in private institutions. In most cases, they make public universities as first choice, and private ones as alternatives. And only a smaller % who fear they might not meet the high cut off in the public schools choose the private ones straightaway. Well you have met someone who picked CU as his first choice in his first and only attempt. Nice to meet you too. And by the way many of my course mates chose CU as first choice. This your belief that we all tried to enter public schools first and failed before we settled for private schools is wrong. The cut off for most public universities offering computer science as at the time I wrote JAMB was 200 and I made 250. I chose to go to a private school. I'm glad you know this now. |
Education › Re: Reason For High Fees And Turnout Of First Class Graduates In Private Unis. by Draxler: 11:37am On Apr 11, 2016 |
Silvofitz: Before you embarked on your journey to private university, what did you score in UTME and what's your choice of institution, and which course? I scored 250 and my first choice was Covenant University. I chose Computer Science. What else? |
Education › Re: Reason For High Fees And Turnout Of First Class Graduates In Private Unis. by Draxler: 11:26am On Apr 11, 2016 |
Silvofitz: Lwkmd. This is awkward! If that's what is obtained in the public university in your clime, it's strange to us here. I went to a prestigious, celebrated, record-breaking citadel of learning. And our products speak for us all over the world. So in other words, you are denying that these things that I'm saying happen in public schools. No problem let's all keep deceiving ourselves. |
Education › Re: Reason For High Fees And Turnout Of First Class Graduates In Private Unis. by Draxler: 11:22am On Apr 11, 2016 |
ReverseEngineer: Hello. I think it's rather draxler that's trying to dodge my argument and recycle all he has said. I'll quote him now.. Meanwhile, keep up with the bias. . Nah I'm not trying to dodge anything. Iv brought up valid points and even used your own words against u my friend. |
Education › Re: Reason For High Fees And Turnout Of First Class Graduates In Private Unis. by Draxler: 11:21am On Apr 11, 2016 |
Chuksprince: Should this even be a topic? Public Schools rock... Proud FUTO |
Education › Re: Reason For High Fees And Turnout Of First Class Graduates In Private Unis. by Draxler: 10:47am On Apr 11, 2016 |
ReverseEngineer: Yea.. Sure. And all I need to get admitted into a private University is Just an O'level result with a permissible "pass" in Maths alongside my 700k+ naira with my 150+ in Jamb. Post Utme? common!!! you've paid for that, just come commence lectures... There is post utme in CU. Its called cuSAT. In the year I got admitted out of 10000 people that wrote the exam only about 1000 were admitted. So just because you have 700k doesn't mean your admission is sure. Nobody with 150 jamb score will enter CU, or someone with a pass in maths or any subject related to the course you want to study. So get your facts right. |
Education › Re: Reason For High Fees And Turnout Of First Class Graduates In Private Unis. by Draxler: 10:42am On Apr 11, 2016 |
ReverseEngineer: If you observed, I've laid very strong emphasis on the NIGERIAN CONTEXT. We need to first understand that in the land of the blind, the one eyed man is the king. All we have in Nigeria is a backward form of eduction. Be that as it may, against this backdrop, there are still some "kings" ruling the blind (private schools perhaps). Mind you, Unilag students protested and didn't riot. Protest is a welcome way to show dissatisfaction even in the civilized world. Little wonder former Iceland prime Minister, Sigurður Ingi Jóhannsson was forces to resign after a massive national protest spurred by the leak of the Panama papers ...Remember the power situation as we speak is an eyesore nationally. Fuel is also another menace. Unilag is being run by the government and is geographically located at Nigeria, so, somehow, the precarious situation can be justified. At least it didn't happen a month ago. These are issues beyond the school management's control. Even foreign investors are fleeing Nigeria. Its a national issue and could be understood. Mind you, white students also protest. White students also protest against lack of basic things such as electricity or fuel? What American school or Canadian school did that? My sister came back from BU and didn't even know there was a severe power and fuel problem in the country. She had been experiencing stable power supply. I went to CU and I can proudly say that we can never have problems with power supply no matter what goes on in the country. Now academic activities have been shut down in the school because of these things and the innocent students are the ones who will suffer for it. If those things are beyond your school managenent they certainly are not beyond mine. Private unis will go the extra mile to ensure their students are comfortable. |
Education › Re: Reason For High Fees And Turnout Of First Class Graduates In Private Unis. by Draxler: 10:17am On Apr 11, 2016 |
realmindz: that's the truth. federal universities are very competitive, and those with great results make it with the merit list, over 80% are on merit, others could be politics Thats not true. I was going to enter a public uni years ago. Realised that I needed to know someone no matter how well I did in Jamb and post jamb. They were asking us for a bribe. So let's not lie to ourselves. |
Education › Re: Reason For High Fees And Turnout Of First Class Graduates In Private Unis. by Draxler: 10:11am On Apr 11, 2016 |
Silvofitz: I'm sure you didn't attend medical school. In MEDILAG, for instance, and even in most medschools, there's Elective outside Posting that gives medical students a stint at other medical schools or training centers all over the world. And if BU's Elective Posting is only restricted to India & US, I see that as a disadvantage. When it comes to quality education, old broom sweeps better. Public universities parades the best lecturers, few of who are part-time lecturers in the private universities. And whatever these part-time lecturers dole out at the private centers is a fraction, an infinitesimal fraction, of what they give in their primary place of assignment. Or which procedure can be handled in BU that UCH cannot handle? Do your lecturers answer to anybody? If your lecturers decide to skip the classes what will you guys do? No matter how good your lecturers are, their non chalant attitude will limit what you learn. Do we also talk about lecturers that accept bribes from students? 10k for A, 5k for B etc. Are those lecturers to be proud of? You dare not try this in a private school. Your lecturers that work part time here will come for all classes. They dare not miss any. So I don't agree with you. I don't think there's anything that can convince most of you to change your minds. |
Education › Re: Reason For High Fees And Turnout Of First Class Graduates In Private Unis. by Draxler: 9:56am On Apr 11, 2016 |
ReverseEngineer: I'll like to know your ideology and definition of quality. All the OP highlighted aren't alien at Unilorin which happens to be a Public school. Relatively speaking, those stuffs aren't quality but a celebration of mediocrity. We all know what we mean by quality here. WiFi network across the Campus isn't rocket science, it's at Unilorin. Round the clock power supply is a necessity and not quality as asserted by the Op. It's well obtainable at Unilorin. In the Nigerian context, I don't think there's anything Unilorin's Laboratories lack. Now, why is he howling quality even if we all know these mentioned stuffs are the necessities for a school to kick start? Again, private University students are short changed and lurk in the dark when academic standard is mentioned in Nigeria .. So using your logic, these things are a celebration of mediocrity. But they are lacking in unilag that's why they are rioting. So this unilag which is a public school is mediocre because they lack these little things you claim to be mediocre. Agreed? |
Education › Re: Reason For High Fees And Turnout Of First Class Graduates In Private Unis. by Draxler: 9:16am On Apr 11, 2016 |
haibe: Thats a good thing. Private schools I believe impact more knowledge using their lecturers. However public school students tend to go extra mile to learn and practice things since they do not really get much from their lecturers and have to practice and learn by themselves because they must pass anyway. In the end, this builds a sense of personal development in these students and help them struggle to improve in different areas.
However, if I have a kid, I will not take them to a federal university (except in well developed countries). I would rather take them to a private university for reasons best known to me. I went to CU, and let me tell you this. In the engineering departments many of us still worked hard and went the extra mile. You don't expect your lecturer to give you everything. I still went out to learn android development on my own and I became pretty good at it. So many others I know still went the extra mile to learn things on their own. Personal development is key. |
Education › Re: Reason For High Fees And Turnout Of First Class Graduates In Private Unis. by Draxler: 9:08am On Apr 11, 2016 |
ReverseEngineer: Is your point enough reason to give my child a low quality education even if I'm "well to do" and pay so huge? It's business, if they can't give me quality, I mean quality, then, it's wasteful. So looking at what OP has said what other quality do you feel you need? Have u at least visited the school's website to make your own conclusions? |
Education › Re: Reason For High Fees And Turnout Of First Class Graduates In Private Unis. by Draxler: 9:00am On Apr 11, 2016 |
ReverseEngineer: Lies from the bottom of a blast furnace. Such an ill informed statement. "Well to do parents", I mean "Well to do parents" who are very keen about a good standard of Education for their wards send their kids abroad. Private universities aren't an Option. The argument isn't even about Whether or not Public Universities are better, that's crystal clear. It shouldn't call for a debate. Private schools are far behind in terms of academic standard. The bone of contention is simply, "The amount private universities pay is unparalleled to what they're given back". At least, we know the result of privately owned schools abroad. We see how they're high flying. That's when you are free to say, "They're getting what they paid for". Until then, keep paying high and enjoying the rotten educational system of Nigeria. That's a bit weird to me. The private schools abroad are extremely old. Harvard university was founded in 1636. How old are our private universities? So you are trying to say that ALL well do parents send their kids abroad instead of private universities? I mean ALL o. |
Education › Re: Reason For High Fees And Turnout Of First Class Graduates In Private Unis. by Draxler: 8:46am On Apr 11, 2016 |
haibe: In this same covenant university u are mentioning, they pick our lecturers from public schools. An example is prof omolehinwa from unilag and Dr Mrs ajibolade. covenant university seek the service of this two in the accounting dept. So whats the fuse about insinuating that private unis get better education than public uni?
Like I said in a previous thread, if most people in pvt Universities got admitted into a public uni, they would dump the idea of the pvt uni, except of course they want a good grade by all means, they then result to pvt uni where that is easier And the same Covenant university picked Prof Eric Maskin, a Nobel laureate from Harvard university to teach as a visiting lecturer in the economics department. We can go on and on. |
Education › Re: Reason For High Fees And Turnout Of First Class Graduates In Private Unis. by Draxler: 8:41am On Apr 11, 2016 |
Funminicrown: What do you know about education? The fact that you were able to buy a first class cert with dough doesn't mean you're intelligent. Ask the founder of your so called advanced secondary school, he knows better. Like people in public unis don't bribe lecturers in cash or in kind in exchange for good grades. |
Education › Re: Reason For High Fees And Turnout Of First Class Graduates In Private Unis. by Draxler: 7:41am On Apr 11, 2016 |
ReverseEngineer: Please, NEVER you compare your type of private university to Yale, Harvard, University of Pennsylvania or even 'C' grade Private schools overseas. Such comparison is like that of the living to the dead . Before any further debate, do check out this thread and school yourself a bit.
https://www.nairaland.com/3040194/private-universities-facilities-analysis Who is comparing sir. I'm just using the same criteria you public uni people are using. Since suffering more makes you a better graduate, why can't the schools abroad copy some of your characteristics? Let them lack basic facilities and have ill equipped labs with frequent Strikes and wicked lecturers and let's see whether they will still be rated as highly as they are. I don't need to read your thread. I spent 5 years in CU so I know how great our facilities are. You should go there and inspect the facilities before making judgements. That's actually the best thing. |
Education › Re: Reason For High Fees And Turnout Of First Class Graduates In Private Unis. by Draxler: 7:32am On Apr 11, 2016 |
linsa01: One day during my undergraduate days, I asked one of my lecturers why has my dept not produced 1st class and his response was... how many profs have taught us? He said until we pass through the hands of 6-10 profs and still maintain our good grades. That is what I'm made to believe in public unis. So my question is that how many profs are there in private universities?
Private university students get grades cos they pay so much for their education, so your little must be rewarded. I don't blame them for the high fees. at least they will pay their staff and maintain the school. Because you haven't met people from private universities that had 6 extra years. Your little must be rewarded ko. Go and read little in any of the engineering departments in CU and see whether you won't fail. |
Education › Re: Reason For High Fees And Turnout Of First Class Graduates In Private Unis. by Draxler: 7:24am On Apr 11, 2016 |
ReverseEngineer: Dear Op, I understand your grievances especially after reading and digesting the thread: https://www.nairaland.com/3040194/private-universities-facilities-analysis But consider this excerpt from the thread:
The fallacy that private universities are well equipped has to stop. It's sheer mediocrity. I can tell you they are even less equipped than public Schools. Would you compare the Medical program of Unilorin to that of CU (If any)? Or UCH to Babcock's? Severally, we've even seen these schools come to the so called Ill equipped schools to lend some apparatus when some of their programs are to be accredited. These "Outdated" schools produce students who shine internationally at quizzes while the "up-to-date" ones are beaten flawlessly by the former. Concerning how equipped they are, tell that to Iranians who have no idea how things are done here.
Thank you. God forbid that CU would come to any of your schools to borrow anything. OP leave these people. They will hate us forever. Nothing you tell them will convince them. Let them keep suffering strikes and lack of basic facilities and be making noise that it's the hardship that makes them total graduates. I'm very sure graduates of Harvard and Yale suffer hardship in their schools that's why they are the best. |
Education › Re: Reason For High Fees And Turnout Of First Class Graduates In Private Unis. by Draxler: 7:20am On Apr 11, 2016 |
Silvofitz: Just be consoling yourselves. So, doctors trained in Igbinedion University are better than University Ibadan trained doctors? See mumu talk. Lwkmd. Have you been to BU's medical school? Have you seen their programme? Can any of your federal schools take you abroad to India and the Us to learn? Stay there and be living in past glory |
Education › Re: Proliferation Of First Class Degrees In Private Varsities The PUNCH by Draxler: 6:57am On Apr 09, 2016 |
Icekyng: are u bleeped up ? Oba Awon University ?
go to bed!! Well to be fair they are both among the best in the country |
Education › Re: Proliferation Of First Class Degrees In Private Varsities The PUNCH by Draxler: 9:32pm On Apr 08, 2016 |
Nusaf: That is a product of private uni boasting. Can u beat that? I'm very sure your public uni products are so perfect. All of them speak perfect English. They never ever make grammatical errors. |
Education › Re: Proliferation Of First Class Degrees In Private Varsities The PUNCH by Draxler: 5:04pm On Apr 08, 2016 |
OneManLegion: It IS something. But it's not enough to place them on a pedestal above those of the federal schools. But achievements like these are what schools like MIT and Harvard have used to distinguish themselves from others over the years. Why can't we use advances in research as criteria for comparing schools? Not silly things like the amount of first class graduates. |
Education › Re: Proliferation Of First Class Degrees In Private Varsities The PUNCH by Draxler: 4:42pm On Apr 08, 2016 |
shehuolayinka: First class or no first class, no Nigerian graduate have come out with a good innovation to help the country in terms of development. Even though I see nothing in the glorified secondary school, (private universities) I still qaaprefer them than public school. Moreover, Nigeria public school system is in utter Comatose. But you know there are some brilliant minds that have actually done great things in terms of inventions in this country but the government we have doesn't appreciate such people unlike the governments of advanced nations |
Education › Re: Proliferation Of First Class Degrees In Private Varsities The PUNCH by Draxler: 4:40pm On Apr 08, 2016 |
OneManLegion: Claiming Covenant Uni is equal or superior to federal schools because they practicalised reverse engineering says a lot about how you argue and sally your points forth.
When I boldly stated that federal schools are better, did I say it's because they've produced someone's who's won a Nobel laureate as opposed to the private Unis?
Btw, Reverse Engineering: the reproduction of another manufacturer's product following detailed examination of its construction or composition.
Impressive. But nothing Unilorin can't replicate if they really want to. True but they are the first to practicalize it in Africa and that's something. |