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I'm not a fan of Trump, but I don't see what good this does. Half the country wanted Trump do why alienate them? If Trump does something like this they'll say he's divisive but isn't this divisive? When I see things like this I just marvel at how people don't still understand why Trump won. Things like this don't affect Trump negatively, it helps him maintain his base and the neutrals who simply want to give him a chance to perform as president. We've seen how the NFL ratings went down since the players decided to take a knee, now the NFL is considering telling it's players to stand for the anthem. Threatening Trump supporters that are his fans doesn't help. Trump supporters can only be brought to the other side through debate and logic, not through insults and threats. Eminem is alienating half of America and basically guaranteeing that they'll vote Trump again in 2020.

Guestlander:
Can you please tell us his achievements in all those things he promises his gullible voters. He can't even repeal the Obamacare he cried about for four years.

The American economy is doing very well, and the stock market is at an all time high. Illegal immigration is at historic lows and almost a million jobs have been created since he took office. Not necessarily a Trump supporter, but I'm not a Trump hater either. You Trump haters and his supporters let your emotions cloud your judgement. While there's a lot Trump has to improve on, majorly his character, he's not doing as badly as painted. He's already fulfilled a number of his promises although he's never building a wall and Obamacare will never be repealed, but that's majorly due to the Republican senators.

schwarzkopf:
Rule was change by the dnc when they lost the majority at the Senate. Same reason while the nomination of Betsy Devos went through and other simple majority issues. Obamacare at the beginning wasn't as it's now but a modification to suit the ever blocking GOP it was so close to a Bernie Sanders single payer health care option. Couple with the fact that drumpf and his comrades promised to sabotage the Obama care, one of the major reasons for increment in premiums cos the insurance companies are operating under serious uncertainty. Plus if y'all GOP critize Obama care so much simple bring out your let the cob and other stakeholders hold a review on it.

http://www.dailywire.com/news/12146/11-biggest-problems-obamacare-aaron-bandler. Just read that article on the problems with Obamacare. Government run healthcare has its own peculiar set of problems, and Bernie Sanders single payer health care option is going to do nothing but increase the 20 trillion dollar debt the US finds itself in. There's nothing like free healthcare, you'll pay for it somehow and the government practically has your life in its hands. It can decide to ration spending on you, or decide not to treat you at all. Health insurance is very complicated but if you want the government to run your healthcare at least think about the disadvantages of it.

schwarzkopf:
Wrong!!! They need only a simple majority. Plus the drumpf care like we call it here is drumpf death. Removing 30 millions folks from the health insurance and reducing Aca coverage plus expunging coverage of pre existing conditions.

Sixty senators must vote to close a filibuster bro. Just read about it on Google. You need 60 Senate votes. The current Republican Bill still keeps most of Obama care, and millions of people are already without health coverage because of Obama care. Obamacare already has serious problems with higher premiums for middle class workers. It got more expensive rather than more affordable. Some months back a couple in New York commited suicide because they couldn't afford their health premiums under Obamacare and they were in serious debt. Obamacare is not as perfect as you think.

schwarzkopf:
How was DACA passed wrongly? When does presidential orders start to become unconstitutional?? Firstly the Senate can't come up with any comprehensive immigration law in six months, going by the experience with Bush, Clinton and Obama. He only wanna use the DACA as a bargaining tool for his dream wall thingy, little wonder the new cozying up to chuck schumer and Nancy Pelosi.

What are the details of the Iranian nuclear deal, first and foremost before saying its bullshit and how's it different from the Clinton npk deal?? Plus your submission on Iran is not only uninformed but rather naive. The new Iranian president campaign on moderation and repairing relations with the west. Trump is ignorance on all world political matter, little wonder he can't even speak brilliantly on his own health care reform program.

The U.S. Congress — the legislative branch of the federal government of the United States — develops and passes legislation, which the president signs into law, and federal agencies (executive branch) implement legislation. Copied from migrationpolicy.org. Whatever Trump's intentions are, congress is required to pass laws on immigration. Unless you want to argue with the US constitution. Secondly, it's been proven time and time again that Iran is a sponsor of terrorism. Iran is not a moderate country, as proven by the various Human Rights abuses that occur in the country. How moderate are the "death to America " and "death to Israel" chants? There's nothing uninformed and naive about calling Iran a sponsor of terrorism. Iran may comply with the terms of the nuclear deal for now, but what comes of it in the long run? Bill Clinton trusted North Korea and the long run it went to crap. The fact is that whatever prosperity Iran gains from the deal could be used to sponsor more terrorism in the future. And that's a best case scenario. Worst case scenario is that a future leader of Iran decides to build more nuclear weapons, just like it happened with North Korea. History always has a way of repeating itself. Time will tell.

schwarzkopf:
They can't even repel the Obama care even with a GOP dominated Senate.

They need 60 votes to repeal Obama care and there are just 52 republicans in the Senate. No democrat will vote for any of the Republican health care bills so their hands are tied. Most of the health care bills the Republicans have been proposing actually keep most of Obama care. Besides republican senators like John McCain and Rand Paul have promised to vote against the Republican Bill, and that just makes things difficult. I think Obama care will stay for a long time.

schwarzkopf:
Your ignorance in world politics is not only mind boggling but at best elementary. First, you wrongly said Obama unconstitutional instituted the DACA, false Obama instituted the DACA when the GOP dominated Senate fillibursted a comprehensive immigration bill, same way they did to the Obama supreme court pick by Obama. Obama didn't give the Iran nuclear deal but the g-5 agreed to it as a solution to the Iran nuclear debacle, little wonder Angela Merkel is calling same solution for the north Korea situation. Plus macron said at the unga, you don't throw away a deal because of the Obama name pinned on it. Drumpf is brainless vindicative man child with sole aim of distruping all Obama gains. Little wonder he wanna end customer right protection laws, global climate agreement, laws against rape on campus, daca, environmental regulations and Obama care.

Actually Obama passed DACA wrongly. The president is not the one to create laws on immigration, it's the job of the Senate. It's in the American constitution. What Trump is simply doing is telling Congress to do their jobs and he gave them six months to do it. There's really no big deal in this. Trump did nothing wrong here and if anything goes wrong, congress should be blamed and not Trump. Are you sure Angela merkel is calling for a deal with North Korea? Because in 1993 Bill Clinton signed a nuclear deal with North Korea giving us similar promises like Obama did with the Iran deal. I'm sure you know how that turned out. The Iran nuclear deal will eventually come back to bite the US, because Iran will eventually destabilize the Middle East in the future because of it. Whatever Iran gains from it will be used to sponsor terrorism, and there's the possibility of them getting nuclear weapons in the future.

In other words, Nnamdi Kanu is going to be arrested for exercising freedom of speech. I don't like the guy or his ideas, but he has the right to say whatever he wants. Arresting him is disgraceful.

cescky:
shes refereing to the child

MJ had vitiligo yes

i guess he also had vitiligo of the nose and hair right?

go and read up on his inferiority complex

His inferiority complex is not the subject of this discussion. He had vitiligo and bleached his skin white. Nobody is talking about his nose or hair. Everyone in the Jackson family did a nose job.

Fabulocity:
Yeah sure, he had "vitiligo". Lies that y'all believed. Have you ever seen a victim of vitiligo? It occurs in pale patches over the skin and over a period of time but MJ had a pretty smooth and even transition to being light skinned. That aside, even if he actually had the vitiligo, doesn't still change his negro genes. Those aren't MJ's biological kids. Can't believe people aren't actually saying anything about this.

His autopsy report showed he had vitiligo. Unless you still want to argue with the doctors that did his autopsy.

ivolt:
If an article that stated that CNN fired 3 staffs for airing a false news is the evidence that CNN is fake news,
then I have just wasted my time debating.
I generally don't debate anyone who takes Trump's tweets as facts
especially those made against his perceived oppoonents.

CNN rating has not fallen, just because Trump said it doesn't mean he is right.
Peace!

Google project veritas and watch the videos of what CNN producers were saying behind the scenes. Two of them said that the Trump Russia stories were a "nothingburger" and they were pushing it to increase ratings. It's on video on YouTube, just type project veritas. Now explain to me why anyone should trust CNN after their producers are admitting to lying to push ratings. This has absolutely nothing to do with Trump. Not a Trump supporter.

ivolt:
If an article that stated that CNN fired 3 staffs for airing a false news is the evidence that CNN is fake news,
then I have just wasted my time debating.
I generally don't debate anyone who takes Trump's tweets as facts
especially those made against his perceived oppoonents.

CNN rating has not fallen, just because Trump said it doesn't mean he is right.
Peace!

I never ever quoted Trump. And did you ever See me tell you that I took Trump's tweets as facts? I was talking about CNN, I never ever mentioned Trump once. Read this article about CNN's rating. https://www.google.com.ng/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.dailywire.com/news/18181/just-how-badly-cnn-collapsing-look-these-numbers-james-barrett&ved=0ahUKEwj7z5-Yq97VAhXqLsAKHfp_CsUQFgghMAA&usg=AFQjCNGnz5nx9iQoV39iY_H9knQYsYHBXg

ivolt:
I don't agree, your conclusion isn't based on evidence.
I am yet to see a data which compares CNN confirmed not rumored
false news as a percentage of total news item with those of other
media and found the difference to be significantly different.
Please you can cite a source if you have such data.

What I found is that an average joe can now make a firm statement
that a news is fake just because of its source even if the news is quoting
a tweet, I don't blame them because it is easier to stick to cliches instead
of viewing a news item based on its own merit.

I remember the Fox news of Obama years and how they retract stories
after being shown to be false, even this year.

Will I then conclude that fox news name should be fake news, of course
not, because that will be a naive conclusion on my part.

Conclusions should be based on evidence and comparisons, not cliches.

There's evidence. I posted it to you and you refused to accept it. And yes I understand you saying that most of the things they report on are true, but even conspiracy theorists have that kind of record. Where do we draw the line? Alex Jones is a conspiracy theorist with infowars and has a huge following despite his conspiracies, because they later on turn out to be true most of the time. But I can't cite Alex Jones to be a credible source, because even though most of his claims turn out to be true, a lot of them are baseless and untrue. Are we going to give Alex Jones the same treatment that we give CNN because most of his stories turn out to be true? You mentioned Fox News and yes they have retracted several stories even this year, but they haven't done it nearly as much as CNN. Fox News is still the most watched news station in America along with msnbc. They still have public trust. CNN is losing viewers as we speak. If a news station reports stories that are true even 81 per cent of the time, they are not trustworthy, because 1 in 5 of every news story they release is false. So if I'm listening to them today, I can't be confident that they are saying the truth. If CNN is now having the same news standard with Alex Jones, then CNN has fallen badly and their ratings show it. People want to trust you, and it's OK to make a mistake once in a while, but when you're doing it over and over again within the past six months, surely you can't blame people for losing trust in you. If you disagree that's fine, but I believe that people who don't trust CNN have good reasons not to. That's my opinion.

ivolt:
You don't understand.
It is okay when you say someone did something wrong
but it becomes a travesty when you substitute "wrong" for
that person, "oh that guy is terrible, he once did this", especially
when those you prefer are even worse.

The first post I quoted stated that "god will save Trump from CNN"
even though the news came from twitter not CNN, this implies that
the author thinks every negative news about Trump is plain wrong
and CNN is the source of all such news.

This isn't calling out CNN for airing a particular false news(this is
a twitter quote from Obama not CNN), this is implying that CNN news
are not credible because they have been caught lying.

If we are to apply the same standard to all news media, then no
news source is credible. I hope you understand the difference.

I fully understand you. I understand left wing media bias, everyone is biased. I also understand that false reporting can be inevitable. Where I have a problem is when the false reporting is seemingly deliberate, and has happened again and again over a short period of time. How many stupid things have CNN done this year alone? Too many. MSNBC, ABC, NBC and CNN are all biased to the left, but CNN are the only one that have been blatantly lying over and over again this year. Would people continue to patronize you if they discover that you've been lying severally? CNNs reporting got out of hand, and they are the only left wing station that fully deserve the name "fake news"

tianshie:
First, touche on the Obamacare thing. Secondly, you can't get food stamps unless you have a dependent who is a US citizen. So, the food they give you is to take care of the American citizen child. tRump did not criticize the others. Read his tweets. Where are you getting your news from? Here's where I get frustrated with you, and think you're a tRump apologist.

tRump survived as a businessman because the banks that leant him money employed him to sell off his businesses, CNN did a documentary on that. And tRump hasn't come out to deny what the documentary uncovered.

I had a Mexican student a couple of semesters ago who told me she couldn't vote for Hillary because of moral issues, and she was a lesbian. Turns out she was just following Daddy's orders. I don't dispute that some Mexicans feel that illegals compete for jobs with them. But I do not believe it adds up to much. When I lived in Texas, I used to see these Mexican folks line up at construction sites to take on menial jobs that nobody would do. Is that the competition these other folks are talking about?

ICE should not act like a government deportation outfit in an East European country, or an African country, because the US is supposed to be the moral adjudicator of the world, and America likes that image, because it buys a lot of travelling Americans cultural currency.

I just called Trump an idiot and you called me a Trump apologist. This is a problem I have with people. It's possible to defend people you don't like. And it's possible to put your feelings aside and make rational arguments. Trump is embarrassing. Plain and simple. I blame the Republican Party for his rise, dropping values because of winning. He insults people of all races and genders in the most disgusting way possible. He doesn't seem to know what he's doing on a lot of issues. He's incompetent. What I don't believe is that he's a racist. Like I said, I'm not with Trump on the whole taking jobs back from Mexico, because 85 per cent of manufacturing jobs are lost to machines, not Mexico. Criticizing a black man doesn't make you a racist, you can just use racism as your default setting when you see a white man criticizing a black man the same way a woman could insult me today and it doesn't mean she's sexist. And it's not new for a businessman to borrow money from banks to survive. Is it illegal? Finally, the fact that you think I'm a Trump apologist is the reason America is divided right now. Nobody wants to drop feelings and argue facts. And once you disagree with someone politically then the person must be evil. I think it's very immature. I despise Trump, but I have nothing against his supporters. They made their decision and some of them are good people. I get you, you're probably a liberal which is why you use the moral argument with the ICE, but it's not illegal for them to deport people. And those who voted for Trump didn't do so because of wickedness, some of them had good reasons to. Trump Vs Hillary was an impossible choice in my opinion, and you shouldnt demonize people who disagree with you

ivolt:
Did you even read my post ?
I said you should name just 1 media house that has never been involved in false reporting ?

Just because everyone is doing it doesn't make it okay. So many have reported falsely, from Fox News to msnbc. However, CNN has done it too many times in a short period for people to ignore. Are you saying we should give them a free pass because everyone has done something bad before?

ivolt:
Name one media house anywhere in the world that have never been guilty of false reporting,
A liar isn't someone who tells a liar, a liar is someone who tells lie majority of the time,
same thing applies to an honest person being someone whose statements are honest majority
of the time, not just once or twice.

Some people seem to think that admitting a mistake makes the organisation the worst offender
while those who deny making mistake even in the face of glaring are seen as honest ?

You are repeating what some ill-informed folks do, what ratings are you talking about ?
Can you please break it down and cite your sources ?

You objectively compare ratings by doing this Year vs Previous Year or this Month vs same month
in previous years, then you now check if the changes are positive or negative overall when previous
year changes are examined and if those changes are unusual.

here's CNN's false reporting. Just a few examples in this article. https://www.google.com.ng/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://thefederalist.com/2017/06/29/cnns-latest-retraction-just-tip-fake-news-iceberg/&ved=0ahUKEwic2ube_93VAhXhAMAKHTvNBpkQFgg1MAU&usg=AFQjCNGWMYq_IPfYOdb9_NcAEfT4qG54iQ

ivolt:
Name one media house anywhere in the world that have never been guilty of false reporting,
A liar isn't someone who tells a liar, a liar is someone who tells lie majority of the time,
same thing applies to an honest person being someone whose statements are honest majority
of the time, not just once or twice.

Some people seem to think that admitting a mistake makes the organisation the worst offender
while those who deny making mistake even in the face of glaring are seen as honest ?

You are repeating what some ill-informed folks do, what ratings are you talking about ?
Can you please break it down and cite your sources ?

You objectively compare ratings by doing this Year vs Previous Year or this Month vs same month
in previous years, then you now check if the changes are positive or negative overall when previous
year changes are examined and if those changes are unusual.

CNN has been guilty of false reporting several times this year, I can cite examples of them to you. And it's been happening too often to ignore. CNN is a liberal news station so I understand their bias, what I don't understand is the blatant false reporting, stories that have no evidence and are untrue.Also most times, CNN doesn't retract the false reports. Here's CNN's ratings https://www.google.com.ng/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.dailywire.com/news/18181/just-how-badly-cnn-collapsing-look-these-numbers-james-barrett&ved=0ahUKEwjFkYS3_t3VAhUIElAKHeCpAWYQFgghMAA&usg=AFQjCNGnz5nx9iQoV39iY_H9knQYsYHBXg

tianshie:
Yes, racists hang out with blacks. It's called tokenism. I-don't-want-you-to-see-me-as-racist-even-though-I-am. Because it's fashionable to be liberal. And tRump's shown it recently by attacking the black CEO of Merck, who resigned from his manufacturing council, but failing to berate the other white people who left the council. I'd concur and say the media has been complicit in the making of donald tRump, holding him up as an American business miracle in spite of his 6 bankruptcies. The media is mad now because he wouldn't stay in his place. But it doesn't make tRump any less a crook or racist.

You're going off at the mouth again with the taking back thing. He made the taking our country back statement in the context of his attack on Mexicans, go check the videos. So, are the Mexicans the so-called globalists? Recently a man who emigrated illegally and has been in the US for 20 years, without a criminal record, was abducted by ICE as he drove his daughter to school. What's the moral justification for that? And when I say legal, I mean LEGAL, because there are judicial procedures to be followed in a deportation.

And I'll tell you something you obviously don't know about America. No illegal immigrant can get a job, because...newsflash...they don't have a Social security number, so they're not taking jobs, they aren't getting social security benefits, so genius, how exactly are they burdening the economy? Y'all sit in your kpangolo chairs, read sh*t off the Internet, and spew it on here to act bright.

Firstly,dont tell me that I'm acting bright by reading shit off the internet. I never said that to you and I feel that we are engaging in a reasonable debate. If you want to insult me then we can just end this right now. I'll tell you one way illegal immigrants burden the economy. Obama care. Universal healthcare covers illegal immigrants as well. When the government is also paying for their healthcare, then they're a burden already because universal healthcare is expensive to maintain . They also take food stamps. 1/3 of Hispanics voted Trump. When they were interviewed, they said they voted him because a lot of their competitors in their businesses were illegals, and they went through great pains to become legal immigrants, only for someone to come through the back door and compete with them. Don't you think they had a right to be worried? If both of us are competing for something and Im doing it illegitimately, would you be okay with it? Again, this is where I think Trump is an idiot, because 85 per cent of US manufacturing jobs were lost to machines, not Mexicans or China. I'm not a Trump supporter, just so you know. And Trump stupidly saying they are losing jobs to Mexico doesn't mean he's racist. Oh so because Trump was angry with a black man for resigning, he's now a racist? Trump has actually criticized the others for resigning too, and he has dissolved his manufacturing council. Oh so Trump has been bankrupt 6 times and he came out of bankruptcy every single time, so he should not be regarded as a successful businessman? You have no proof that Trump was hanging out with blacks because he wanted to look good to them. Can you show me your evidence? The ICE is in charge of deportations and so far they have not broken any laws in deporting illegals. What laws did they break? I would love to know. Again, stop with the moral justification narrative. Facts don't care about your feelings. If someone is an illegal immigrant, then he came into the country the wrong way. And please stop with the insults.

Laid2001:
hate speech and Hate is actually a crime in US.
Trump has been able to camouflage his hate and racism so far as nationalism. But the issue at hand now is his tacit support for the hate mongers like the Fascists, the KKK and so on.
The civil liberty organization are those fighting for the freedom of those the KKK wants to deny their right and hence can not be on the same pedestal with KKK as you want us to believe just like Trump.

trump refused to categorically condemn the Fascists and the KKK and he seems to be standing alone on this as far as the American politics is concern today.!! every other politician that is worth their onion has condemned him for that.!!

No, hate speech is protected by the First Amendment. There's a Reason it's called freedom of speech. Speech includes all forms of speech including hate speech. The white nationalists have a right to speak, that's what makes it free speech. What becomes wrong is when you actually start rioting and beating people up and destroying public property. The white nationalists got a permit to protest from the state government and it was granted because it's their right. Antifa and black lives matter destroy public property and beat people up on the streets calling it "punch a nazi". When did it become okay to be violent? Do you support violence? Aren't there civilized and peaceful ways to protest? And on YouTube Trump has condemned white nationalists since the 90s long before he ever became a politician. Videos don't lie, it's on YouTube. Trump also condemned them several times during his campaign. It's also on YouTube. On Saturday he condemned violence on ALL sides, white supremacists,and Antifa. Every side has to be blamed, and violence should never be encouraged even against despicable racists. It's not okay to beat people up. When they go low, we go high.

tianshie:
No, the media has been calling him out for his racism. If NTA news hasn't brought that to you, you can't make a blanket, generalising statement. And the MSM has called out his misogyny, his borderline pedophelia, sharp business practices. But until he came into the public eye, speaking of politics, he was considered an attention-seeker, a showman, and his past criticisms were low-key. It is naive and callow to say tRump is fine with black people because he's hung out with a few successful blacks.

And when did Mexico become a race? How old are you? Hispanics can be any race. Some of them identify as black. White people do not consider Mexicans as white, they consider them a different mongrel race, and that's enough justification to call that racism.

And stop with your two-a-penny pseudo-intellectualism. tRump isn't talking about taking America back from globalists, he is talking about white people with a narrow, hard view of race, taking back America from liberal minded people. And talking about illegal immigration, Obama deported more illegal immigrants than any president, and he was not a racist. He did it legitimately, compassionately, without vengeance. Throwing out criminals. Not separating mothers from their children etc.

Oga, racists don't hang out with blacks,successful or unsuccessful. Do you know what a racist means? And please don't even tell me Hispanics are a separate race, because it's simply not true. There are some of them with white skin, and others with black skin. Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz have the same skin colour with Trump, and they are Hispanics. You called Trump a misogynist. His campaign Manager Kelly Ann Conway was a woman. Which misogynist would put something so important I'm the hands of a Woman? Don't dodge this question. Weren't there enough men for him to pick from? Trump was mostly celebrated by the American media, there were a few criticisms,but mostly praise. The young American was looking up to people like Trump. Barack Obama in his younger days said the American dream is to be Donald Trump. Trump has said so many disgusting things to white men too. He goes on insult rants against anyone in his way, no matter the color of skin or gender. Trump has even been a democrat all his life, and just became a republican two seconds ago and suddenly became a racist misogynistic bigot to the American media. When Trump says he's taking America back, he's talking as a populist who is against the globalist establishment which consists of both democrats and republicans. Open a book about politics and read about Nationalism. And please, they are called ILLEGAL immigrants. They broke the law, else it wouldn't be illegal anymore. And so far the illegal immigrants who have been deported have been the ones with a criminal record. Illegal immigrants are a burden to the economy, especially the ones who are criminals. There is no such thing as legitimate deportation of illegal immigrants. If you come into my house from my window and steal from my pot, I will kick you out. And it doesn't make me a wicked person.

tianshie:
In the 1970s tRump's company was indicted for refusing to rent apartments to people of colour. So, there, that's how we know he is racist. Please provide me a link to the videos you're talking about. I watched all tRump's campaign rallies, and right from the first day, he's talking about Mexicans being rapists, and saying, "We're going to take our country back!" If that isn't racism, then I can't help you.

and despite that the American mainstream media never called him a racist until after 30 years when he decided to run for president. Over the years we have seen Trump hang out with black people, from Michael Jackson and his family, to Snoop Dogg and now Omarosa, Kanye West, Ben Carson and Steve Harvey. Did his racism exempt them? What kind of racism is that? And about Mexicans, please I would like you to tell me when and how Mexico became a race, and how putting American citizens ahead of illegal immigrants or taking your country back from globalists, became a racist thing to do.

ZianaJordana:
Black Lives Matter have not murdered any cops. Black Lives Matter are NOT comparable to white supremacist groups like the KKK, who in their hay day, were responsible for the killings of thousands of innocent black people. Obama refused to put the KKK on the domestic terror list, which I find problematic. But other than that, I do not see him as any better or worse than any other US president. Well, better than Bush.

A black lives matter member murdered 5 cops last year. The guy who did it confessed to being a member of BLM. The "WE WANT DEAD COPS " videos of black lives matter rioters are on YouTube. They kept chanting it until one of them decided to actually do it. The KKK has just 5000 members today, they barely have any power and influence. When last did the kkk do anything influential? These guys are hasbeens. And guess the party that started the KKK? Yep, the democrats.

ZianaJordana:
Obama isn't even the president anymore, yet you're foaming from the mouth over a tweet?
Black Lives Matter is an organisation, and nobody from that organisation has ever murdered any police officers. A supporter does NOT equal a member! A community crime in deprived areas of Chicago, which is not unique to Chicago nor America, has absolutely nothing to do with organised white supremacy and hate crimes. You're using one issue to deflect from another which is ridiculous.

Would you readily use that logic for white supremacists? If it turns out that the guy who murdered the innocent woman was not a KKK member but a kkk supporter, would you remove blame from the KKK? The man who murdered those cops was a member of black lives matter, and black lives matter has been caught on tape and on videos chanting "WE WANT DEAD COPS". Someone who was a member decided after that chant, to kill 5 innocent police men and black lives matter shouldn't be blamed? Both must be condemned. Racist white supremacists, and racist members of black lives matter. Some members of black lives matter are racists who hate whites and use the platform of BLM to channel their hatred. Hatred must be stopped on BOTH sides, the left and the right.

tianshie:
You're being foolish. (I'm pretty pissed.) Now listen to someone who LIVES in America. In the fight against evil, we must always take sides. The white nationalists, and neo-Nazis, and all the other dregs of the alt-right are scum. Period. People got a permit to hold a rally supporting PREJUDICE, and you blame right-thinking citizens for countering them? The mor.on who drove his car into a crowd has been proven to be a white nationalist. I saw pictures of him on twitter in front of a confederate flag. His mother was interviewed on CNN, and sounded terrified of her son. Investigators found out the woman had placed TEN 911 calls calling for help because the piece of sh*t son was threatening to hurt her. That shows you precedence. The fool was violent.

tRump showed his racism during the election. He'd say stuff like: "They used to beat the hell out of them in those days. That's what they used to do." Meaning that black people used to be attacked in Jim Crow America. Saying both side were at fault is absurd. If armed robbers get a permit to hold a rally on your street, screaming, "We will take all your money!" "We will rip out your doors and take your hard-earned sweat!" Dude, you'll be justified to attack them. These racist filth were shown on CNN shouting, "Jew will not replace us!" "Whose streets? Our streets!" Inflamatory words in an already racially charged America. Watch the Vice video and inform yourself. Stop coming on the Internet to type nonsense.

Yes racism should not be tolerated, but we should not join people who call themselves Antifascists and yet use fascist tactics to shut down free speech. Yes, even the white supremacists have freedom of speech, and we should use our freedom of speech to condemn them. Antifa and black lives matter will go in there with masks and clubs to beat people up and you guys cheer them on. When did it become okay to cheer people who beat people up wearing masks? If you think I'm lying, go on YouTube and watch the videos. You see black lives matter chanting that they want dead cops and go beating up Trump supporters on the streets. Why don't you condemn them too? And about Trump being a racist, trump has continually condemned the kkk and white supremacists right from when he was a businessman. It's on YouTube, go watch the videos. He has been in the American public eye for decades and was hardly called a racist, until he decided to run for president as a republican. Liberals will call anybody they don't like a racist.

ivolt:
When Trump says something, the gullible blame CNN for reporting
that his words.
Even when his tweets are quoted, the gullible blame CNN instead
of blaming the author of the tweets(Trump).

CNN have been guilty of false reporting this year and their ratings have been going down because of it. There are so many instances of this. Just do your research and you'll see.

cescky:
i guess your a monkey or have the brain of one

so because people have permission to protest, gives them the right to take a life?,

you the kind of person the white supremacists were referring to as being inferior to caucasians...

if a hate protest/crime against your race and kind cant stir you up...well your a typical nigerian, so i cant say more, sad that a white woman died so that people that have your skin colour can be seen as human beings,

And is it OK for Antifa and black lives matter to beat people up even if they are racist? Does beating hateful people up make them less hateful? What happened to "when they go low we go high"? Blame exists on both sides. White supremacists are disgusting human beings and should be condemned, and Antifa and BLM should not assault people no matter how disgusting and racist they may be.

Alright so let the OP answer this, since you have financial standards. Nobody stays at the same financial level in a capitalist society as people move up and down the financial ladder. What happens when your man in the process of moving down the financial ladder drops below your "financial standards"? What do you do then?

osinbanjoisaliar:
No, it means that Trump has picked Nigeria for destruction. Trump smiled and kissed the erstwhile FBI director, and 3months later fired and destroyed him. That's how orange Jesus operates

The Attorney General recommended that Trump fire him. Let's not forget the FBI director found Hillary Clinton "guilty of wrongdoing " but decided not to prosecute her. The guy needed to go and Trump fired him.

Rayfield:
It maybe impossible for Juventus to keep a Clean sheet on this one.

In Turin? Juve's defence is three times stronger at home.

This L is for all the pastor haters on Nairaland

Funny people on this thread. Who told you that CU graduates are children of the rich? A lot of parents borrowed money to send their children to that school. Some of them don't have the connections you think they have. Learn to argue with facts. A lot of people just hate the school so they belittle any achievement of the school.