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Kingzrocky:
This is a very delicate topic.
Let's thread with caution.

Nothing delicate. It's plain common sense that if you love a person you go visiting Him.

Time for anothe ban its like reciting the names of Adam"s first 10 generation of progenies who killed no one listed, in Genesis 5 is a bannable offence in response to the questioneer whose name has to do with blood.

This proves that cobra must born a cobra and it is reasonably known that a sheep can only begin to give birth to a cobra when it marries a cobra

Thorrn:
Notice the two highlighted parts of this paragraph. As you can see, this passage from which you quoted the SECOND highlighted remark, was focused on the meaning of your claim: nothing [in this world] created itself. Do you see anything to do with the definition of the world here? Are you that dyslexic that you can't see that you just goofed ? Simply put, you're jumbling up unrelated issues in the most unsophisticated attempt at sophistry I've ever witnessed .

All these are just noises from a broken silencer The point is that you lied that I did not give clarification whereas, you got my clarification.

And since you got it, which you have even judt confessed to below, l have been waiting for you since to say something VALID against my point to which you have given none only noise making and deviation from post. Point cliosed.

Thorrn:
You've already clarified what you mean by the "world" in your claim. And I've accepted your definition. However, you keep insisting that I've derailed whenever I point out the fact that your argument about nothing creating itself suggests the existence of a first cause, and that is why I still need you to clarify: You've said that nothing [in this world] created itself. What are you trying to suggest here if not the fact that everything has a creator?

Suggestion is not a Truth that is why you have not pleaded any thing worth been giving any clarification. And that is why you lost

Thorrn:
So in the absence of any actual proofs for your claim, you default to consoling yourself with an imagined victory, trying to cover up for your obvious failures and inadequacies in this discussion...

In the absence of your valid rebuttal you lost for if I have not given any proof you won't have had the burden of rebutting nor you struggling to find a valid rebuttal

That's how I won fair, square and round because IT IS THE LAW, THERE IS NO VALIE ARGUMENT AGAINST THE TRUTH!

jaephoenix:
Your points are useless
About the insult part, please ask people in religion section, who is the most insolent person? I mean ask Muslims, atheists and your fellow christians who is the most toxic? Its YOU!

Rubbish! Everyone knows you atheists are liars and the most toxic and obnoxious people on earth always creating useless and stupid unending arguments.

. Quora even got you.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.quora.com/Why-are-atheists-on-the-Internet-so-toxic&ved=2ahUKEwiOnaP5k7aDAxXBV0EAHV5gCL4QFnoECBAQAQ&usg=AOvVaw0n1dsgV5x3fVg9vThVtahU

InfectedEmbryo:
She's short



She makes sense being rape material

See evil generation oooh! see rapist! I pray you be raped to death.

This world deserves to be burnt with all of you in it.

Meddymeddy:
I have seen plentiful post about failed marriages on the Internet. Most marriages only last a couple of years before divorce comes up. Although there are few happy marriages. The ratio for happy marriages and failed marriages is 20:80. There are many factors that contribute to failed marriages which include cheating, unfaithfulness, finance etc. Some just wake up and realise that their wife is no longer attractive ( did they force her on you? ). Back in the days marriages were pre set up whereby couples barely knows themselves. Nowadays you see couple dating for 6-10years and when they finally get married issues will start poping up.

Maybe marriage should be like a contact after some years it will be terminated depending on how long the couple want it to be

It proves how stupid and evil this generation is. Common buying and selling/services contracts you people are scheming ways to cheat the other party is it now marriage?

This is just a pure reflection of the type of wild and untrained animals you people have become today.

I fit still talk?

Okay o. Imagine Person go ask question den e go kon ban me make I no fit answer.

Thorrn:
You know you've lost an argument when you can't help but repeat yourself incessantly without offering any new insight. Please don't go the dark route of Aemmyjah. As you can see, he's now languishing in the dark corners of Nairaland hell. Blind and stubborn assertions will not save your position here.

You lost the argument since, l was just waiting to see if you would raise any valid thing that would make me seek an adjournment. But you got no thing.

Thorrn:
Simply clarify things for me. You said that nothing [in this world] created itself. What are you trying to suggest here if not the fact that everything has a creator?

We call it res judicata. You can't litigate (reargue) what has already been litigated. sorry!

That is why IT IS THE LAW, THERE IS NO VALID ARGUMENT AGAINST THE TRUTH!

Thanks for the debate, it was very intellectually stimulating

Thorrn:
You're not actually addressing the paragraph you just quoted with this rejoinder. My primary focus in that paragraph was the meaning of your claim nothing [in this world] created itself in its entirety, not the definition of the qualifier you took the liberty to employ. Allow me to ask the question this way.

Now you are lying for you clearly said "Since you wilfully declined to make any further clarifications, And now that I have shown you that you were truly clarified, you are now changing your mouth.

Thorrn:
How does the notion that "nothing [in this world] created itself" suggest that God exists? Can you give a direct answer?
You and I already know where you're heading with your argument, but keep denying and pretending to be none the wiser .

You got it when I said "no thing in this world created itself. You verily got it exactly as you do not imagine that the mounted created itself.

So you are trying to create an opportunity to reargue seeing that the way you first argued is lost! which is why "THERE IS NO VALID ARGUMENT AGAINST THE TRUTH".

Thorrn:
You didn't give any proof my guy. You just presented a rendition of the Kalam Cosmological Argument, but dressed it up in a tattered manner, as opposed to the elegance with which more competent apologists usually portray it. And the KCA has been widely trashed and destroyed in all forums of philosophical debate throughout modern history.

Permit me to rephrase your last sentence here:

"THERE IS NO VALID ARGUMENT AGAINST A NON-ARGUMENT"

Safe to say, the case is closed. And you have been dismissed.

Next!

Wrong! I gave the proof, you saw it and then you in your bid to raise a counter you went off point or change of post which clearly means that you have no valid argument to make thereby proving "THERE IS NO VALID ARGUMENT AGAINST THE TRUTH "

Thorrn:
You offered the claim that nothing [in this world] created itself as a response to my query to prove your god's existence. Given the context of my request, it is safe to assume that your belief that nothing created itself means that everything [in this world] has a creator, according to you. Since you wilfully declined to make any further clarifications, I simply inferred that you were suggesting that there is a source from which everything that exists [in this world] was created. In which case, you would simply be rehashing the cosmological argument for gods, also known as The First Cause argument...

You clearly asked what "in this world" means asking if I meant "this "WORLD" consist of the earth alone in which humans are one of the inhabitants"

And I confirmed it saying :The bold! this "WORLD" consist of the earth alone in which humans are one of the inhabitants. That's why I kept saying that we are all arguing using our knowledge and experiences in and from this world to make our arguments..

So you got it and you have nothing valid to say against it

Thorrn:
I have asked you (repeatedly) to present your proof that God exists. I have not asked you what the topic is.

And I have given it and the only way you speak against it was to CHANGE POST AND GO OFF POINT.

Since these past weeks I gave my proof and answer, all tou have done is try to raise issues that are outside the argument and you have not been able to get back into the argument.

So, clearly you have nothing for I have given proof whilst you are unable to counter it as off point and change of posts arguments are invalid arguments.

That is why it is The Law that "THERE IS NO VALID ARGUMENT AGAINST THE TRUTH"

jaephoenix:
You're just too dishonest in your arguments. Sometimes its no use arguing with you

Hahahahahahaha Stupid Losers! You are too stupud to even make an argument.

jaephoenix:
So what else is the essence of branding?
If at all u r a lawyer, u r the dumbest of them. The way u gloss over arguments without debunking them is risible. Do u actually do courtroom battles? U go fail tire.

If you were not a stupid illiterate child deluding himself that he would be a native doctor you would have known that you branded your books and things because some one can steali it by claiming ownership. Everyone knows that but you are definitely too stupid hence your stupid questions and responses.

LordReed:
Dliespeaker just likes fooling himself. LoLz.

Says the LyingLoserReed. Hahahahahahaha.

jaephoenix:
Which god is that? Thor? Amadioha? Flying Spaghetti Monster? How did u know his name if he didn't brand any of his goods, Mr. Lawyer?

Stupid people will always ask stupid questions.

jaephoenix:
Did you read the other points I made?
Spider-man videos are acted. These videos aren't.
Are you usually this idioticc in real life

As long as you have just admitted that your point on videos and photos is dead then your other points don't exist.

Baolak:
Sir, your IQ is obviously below mine just run along!
Thanks 🙏🏾

Child, you are too evil that you have no mind to measure anything at all, so be quiet like a statue. Thanks

Muyiwabiggy:
Sharrap there! Sex ko sexy ni. If sex ws the forbidden fruit why then did God tell them to multiply and be fruitful, I mean how are they supposed to fulfill that ordinance? Bongo tea! And pls don't tell crap about unlawful sex between Adam and Eve cos last time I checked they were already married immediately Eve was made from him abi wetin Genesis 2 vs 21 - 24 say?

Shut tap there! Even when you got your wife natural sense told you not to have sex with her until you have gotten the permission via lawful marriage.

So, clearly they were still at what we call the dating and relationship stage.

Temiel:
Okay... What happened to the other parts of the scriptures you didn't highlight?

Is it also implying that sex makes one wise?

Cos you cleverly omitted that part.

When you are solving a case of adultery or cheating you can't put the issue of school fees or bad cooking inside.

Newbielearner:
I think if it's actually a forbidden fruit, it shouldn't be accessible in marriage except if marriage is also a forbidden institution.

When marriage commences (boyfriend /girlfriend stage) sex isn't allowed even where it is accessible. And that is the essence of fore-bidden (Fore-Commanded)

advanceDNA:
Lol ...U are still cherry picking and dodging...

Many men born by Adam sinned as well, including murder......so Why are u fallaciously claiming it's the seed of the serpent in Cain that made him kill...??
And the bible gave account that Adam slept with his wife and bore cain and Abel......

U are ignoring scripture to establish ur sexually driven interpretation.... It's fine anyways ...wateva rocks ur boat

You are the one fallaciously arguing and even going as far to ignore clear facts. You already know that murder filled the earth because people related and married into Cains blood. Therefore, the murder spirit would definitely be passed to everyone who relates and married Cain. Which is why we say "bad company corrupts"

So you are deviating from post for the argument is on the source of Cain and not on the works of the children and grand children of Cain.

So it's you, looking for a way to deny the Truth you have seen

advanceDNA:
U just cherry picking to suit ur narrative...one fruit is sex...but the others are peace and co??...

Go read the bible you would see that love, peace and kindness are also types of fruits.

advanceDNA:
Now this is my question...all the children Adam and Eve bore after Cain and Abel still committed sin generations later right?? so the idea that u are trying to link the evil heart of Cain to the serpent is flawed.....all men sinned .. not Cain alone....

I did not link sin. I linked murder. The same murder hint we are given in John

We all sin but not all of are murderers.

Also, have you considered the sin status of a child and grandchildren who were born before they ate the fruit, if that had happened?

Surely, unless their line was corrupted and tainted by the other corrupted lineage, then they would have been pure.

Baolak:
As a prophet, with similar experience like yours a whole lot is required of you to be able to overcome this challenges.
Firstly you need to be born again.
Subsequently you need serious and continuous fasting and prayer.
Alms giving should be practiced too.
Listen more talk less.
You will need to stay away from your parents vicinity, just put out phone calls to them when necessary.


If you think you need my guidance, feel free to call or chat me up on 08050390079

You are talking nonsense for if you have experienced it then you would know that such a person is not even in the state of mind to know what born again means MOST ESPECIALLY AS THEY ARE THE RECIPIENT'S OF EVIL AND WERE NOT EVEN GIVEN THE FREEDOM TO DO SOMETHING WRONG FOR WHICH THEY CAN BE BORN AGAIN FOR!

Naira2Man:
I suspect you are a grown man whatever problems you have with your parents pls move out of your parents house, the world is big and wide and there are many places you can settle down, from your talk, your thinking, you are sounding like a person with some form of psychosis or schizophrenia these are real medical conditions pls seek help, I hope you dont take hard drugs pls keep away do not lose your mind. Human beings are spiritual animals that is why we go to church go to mosque, we pray and believe in the almighty creator so do not you deluge yourself thinking you know better, people should get emotional, physical peace of mind from their worship, not a mental conflict affliction story which you have built for yourself. yes you have problems with your parents but if they wanted to kill you they could have easily done it when you were a helpless child, pls seek help

You are the one who is mad and definitely on drugs to say this. You probably an evil parent as already proven by your "you don't careness". Or the child of one and you probably were enjoying yourself and having a normal life whilst your parent was slowly and silently murdering your sibling.

I pray you that one day soon enough your parents die and then you fall into this evil via your family members till you for.

Or you say this to a sufferer and the person stabs you in your face while you sleep so that we all would meet in God's Court. Idiot

xpressnow:
Thank you. There are four groups of people as far as this issue is concerned.

1. Those in the know and admit it if/when necessary.
2. Those who are ignorant of the true workings of life.
3. Those who are clueless.
4. The gatekeepers.

The gatekeepers understand that the world is spiritual and some of them are even perpetrators. But they'll want you to remain in the dark by keeping you out of the at gate to light (understanding/being in the know). Some of them will be on this thread and comment rubbish so they can gatekeep.

Some people try the logic of why would a parent who doesn't kill you at birth harm you. They've forgotten that humans rear chicks into chickens so they can feast on them during festive seasons. That's the closest analogy I can give.

Exactly!

And the bottomline is that people are very very evil, including people we call out parents.

advanceDNA:
If u claim fruit is sex...and therefore the fruit that God told them not to eat is sex......so what are the other fruits they were allowed to eat??

You read it

Fruits of love, peace, kindness, patience, if I say laughter, play, rest, good conversation you might start an unending argument.

NNTR:
A touch of madness is liberating, tonic and invigorating. It

So continue being a mad person.