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You don give me idea. Prison people hope say atheist no dey pray for prison? una suppose beat then for daring to pray. Dem no get right to repent when dey enter prison.

paxonel:
Jabez

1 Chronicles 4:9 And Jabez was more honourable than his brethren: and his mother called his name Jabez, saying, Because I bare him with sorrow.

The name Jabez wasn't honourable.
As a matter of fact, the name was a curse from his mother who bare him with sorrow

This is shit! The mother did not curse him she rather even confesses that she is the cursed one. Genesis 3:16

And this Curse was spiritual which controlled the physical of all cursed women.

So, you have even given us a case which proves the spiritual controls the physical

paxonel:
you know, there was a biblical character that was cursed, but he ended up becoming a great man through self awareness and the curse did not have any effect on him.
This has been proven to be true from other people's experiences.

Which biblical character was cursed?

paxonel:
Can you proof the existence of any spirit that is controlling or manipulating anyone today?

How do you think women get you to marry them? Or what do you think mind Bleep is? I pray you mary your ugly dirty housegirl,then you would know!

paxonel:
as a matter of fact, that is the simple truth

And you accept a witch's statement because she is physical and suits your wishes. Anyway, on Judgment Day we would see your results

paxonel:
From all indications and human Experiences, no spirit controls the physical.

Which physical woman controlled your penis to cum whilst you were sleeping?

Or how do scammers mannipulate you into giving them your possessions?

The evil spiritual is not stupid like the physical evil and they know the importance of SUBTELTY.

Kingsnairaland:
My friend there is no place in the bible that homosexuality is a sin that can not be forgiven

Show me the place in the bible

The only sin Jesus and the father can not forgive is when you abuse the works of the holy spirit.

I think you are an homo or you are guilty of one of the abominations is why you desperately block yourself from seeing the Truth. Deceive yourself no longer, you already foreknow that some sins and abominations cannot be foregiven

LordReed:
You like projecting your terrible behavior on to others. It is you who would always start shouting off point and change of post so once again you are castigating yourself. LoLz.

See as devil twisty twisty don start as he dey pretend say e no hear wetin i talk.

Kingsnairaland:
No the punishment is the same read ur Bible to find out

In fact fornication and homosexuality both have equal punishment it harms the body.

I said stealing not fornication.

Irupetepete:
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Serve God and not men of God, that's where we missed it in this country...

You don finish me finish! You are in order, brother.

Righthussle:
Allah , Shiva, Akal Murat , Yahweh

Which god do you want us to know amongst these foreign gods because I know you guys will never want to know any god in any African traditional religion ? ,

Face your wooden and iron god or. No one cares.

OndoRaph:
The problem is that even you don't know this thing. You only BELIEVE it; that's where some people need evidence of the senses. Religious believes are dogmatic; some need to ask questions.

This is not True.

People know Truth and that is why tgey believe same way we all know why people believe liars is because they love lies and have been looking for someone to lie to them.

HenryTimes:
The so called Holy books and common sense.

You are talking nonsense. The bottomline is that you do not want anyone telling you that you are an evil person that is why you hate the bible

Irupetepete:
I don't know but am almost tilting to it...
The religion we practice today is that of money making..
Churches today are all about immorality and making money,dem don monetize church..
The awkwardness like odumeje
The tithe preachers like oyedepo
The brainwashers like Baba adeboye (cos how can you people keep preaching of having faith in a country about to collapse?
And believe me, if prayers can change this country, the second most prayerful country in the world should not have a problem.
Have come to realize that people with great amount of wealth are people who used their brain and senses rather than jump from mountain to mountain

Sense users a.k.a brainwashers(pastors, prophets alfas etc)

Mumu and brainwashed idiots (the congregation).
Someone should tell me the business these MOG's have to amass the fortune they control!
The congregation is the enterprise

Aren't you a mumu brainwashed idiot paying attention to immoral business men carrying bibles?

Isn't God the opposite of immoral?

Why don't you just stop pretending and come out of your closet and be the God hater you wish to be. The association of God haters will love you and even take care of you.

LordReed:
Just like you always talking about cars when we are talking of human beings. LoLz.

While standing right in the very middle of the point of the debate else you and your children would have come shouting off point and change of post. But you all got my point and you all saw I was in the point, so no road! ; Hahahaha

Botragelad:
Basic sense not to believe in fairy tale.

No one believes fairy tales but we all know when Truth Speaks.

Plus, it is known that criminals never like to hear anyone tell them that they are criminals which is why they will always say shit about the bible calling it everything including fairy tales. Every reasonable person knows that.

Botragelad:
Basic sense!

Basic sense of finding sin snd evil appealing

Racoon:
https://www.charismanews.com/world/94003-worldwide-terror-over-160-christians-slaughtered-during-christmas-celebrations?utm_campaign=editor_charisma_news_organic&utm_medium=social&utm_source=fb_tw&utm_content=timeline_article_post&fbclid=IwAR3yjKU0SWMVixxfs1925Q4FkuU1j_gXDTRKntbiTp6PCYgujV4JACEaeBU nlfpmod

Stop being a serpent. The report did not say they were Christians

jaephoenix:
Stop it! You're making DTruthSpeaker to think and its making him dizzy

See fool who cannot even think, speaking!

jesusjnr2020:
Don't wait til it's too late like the founder of church of Satan, Anton Levey and Alister Crowley, another famous Satanist who both regretted their actions at the end when it was too late to repent.

God bless.

Esau regretted his sins, God did mot take him. So you are wrong.

sholikay:
Happy last sunday and last day of the year 2023...thank God so far for bringing us to the end of this year..

Now to the topic of this post...

sometimes I ask myself, what could cause people to disbelief the existence of God..
was it God that orchestrated it so, so as to create balance in the world, or he did so for those that already know him to value him, or these atheist are just ignorant of the supreme being, or they know there is God,but just trying to form hard and whatever..

As for me,there is God ooooo,big time....😀😀

It is not that they do not believe in God rather it is because they never liked God in the first place and the more horrible they become the more their hatred for Him grows.

And when their hatred is full enough the next thing is to disrespect and dishonour Him which is why their first attack on Him is to "wish Him away" exactly how armed robbers wish the police away. Mad people.

ReacherSaidNoth:
That guy is fantastically foolish, don't waste your energy on him.

When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser.'

Kingsnairaland:
First of all gay is a sin
And fornication is a sin

Yet the punishment for the sin of stealing is different from the one of blasphemy and homoshit.

Kingsnairaland:
No that is not what the word of God said

Any one who repents and accepts Jesus will be saved that is why Jesus is sweet.

This is so, but our spirit also warns us that there are certain sins that cannot be forgiven if we do them and homoshit is one of them.

And there is a difference between a repentant and a child of God. They are not the same.

Too many. All Hillsong
Starts and end, Resurrender, awake, erc

Every reasonable person knows that these propheciers are fake stupid idiots. Satan's prophets are they!

Wilgrea7:
We've had several disagreements in the past.. most of which happen because you insist on shouting "change of post" or "off point" to anything that slightly deviates from your preconceived line of thinking.

But nonetheless, I have no desire to argue who was wrong and who was right.

That is the essence of the rules of arguments and debates There must be an end to debates or arguments as people can argue forever rendering the point of talking and arguing silly since no one can know who is right or wrong.

So the rules of argument ensure that all forms of distractive, deviative and irrelevant arguments are not made and if made, they must cut out and quashed, so that the Truth and the Right can be clearly and undisputably seen which is the point of arguing hence The Law, THERE IS NO VALID ARGUMENT AGAINST THE TRUTH!

Thus, everyone must make valid arguments to be Right and everyone knows when a foul or infraction is commitrd so it is not based on my thinking but based on the fact that every reasonable person knows that you cannot be arguing about cars and then a debater is trying to talk about bicycle.

Wilgrea7:
Your analogy fails terribly here.

There are more than one entity that claim to be "the God"

Change of Post!

We are not talking about who and who is claiming to be God but that there is God!

Secondly, you have impliedly admitted that THERE IS God, with the only qualifier being that you think that there are contestants for that Position even though there is none as proven. But this is not the issue.

[quote author=Wilgrea7 post=127690279]While I'm not necessarily saying there should be a logo or something, it is clear that there is still no tangible proof that we were created by one or any of the entities that have claimed to do so

Tangible proof is that did you ever see a thing that and imagined that it created itself?

No, you did not!

Why?

Because, as we have seen in this world, it is impossible for a thing to create itself.

Lucifyre:
Damn! This convoluted mess of a response obviously doesn't deserve a coherent reply since you lack basic comprehensive skills, which is quite sad. Imagine being this confident and obtuse to miss a simple point and jump on a needless tangent. Anyways the cognitive dissonance u just displayed shows u are clearly not someone with enough brain cells to be reasoned with. Hv a nice life!

Of course you must say this after you have absolutely nothing you could say since your bias and unreasonability is openly splastered here and I have pointed it out.

So you really had nothing to say but to insult in proof that atheists are evil people.

hakeem4:
But if I ask you to give me proof of existence of god or Sango, you’d only be telling me folklores and different experiences how god healed you or fed you.
So you can see the existence of Nigeria as fact, whilst god is just a hypothetical being

Your topic is not proof of God. If you wanted to see the proof of God then you would have joined in the conversation that gave rise to my thread. https://www.nairaland.com/7952974/proof-god-see-how-atheists#127690279.

So off point!

Thorrn:
If nothing gets created by itself, then what created the creator?

Still out of Point! The topic is about how we comnect to God, our Creator. And not a focus on our Creator which is a Change of Post.

So, we understand if you are not able to proceed without your changing the argument which is proof of God and not Proof of whether God has a God where you are shifting the argument to in which you also forget that the implication means that you admit that God indeed exists and that your fresh interest is in finding out whether He was also created just like us or not WHICH IS NOT THE ARGUMENT, HENCE OFF POINT/CHANGE OF POST.

Then he insists on sticking on the outside of the post because he cannot refute my answer directly.

Thorrn:
Sounds like a non-sequitur to me. How does something not having the capacity to create itself provide conclusive proof that God exists?

It's not because it is seen and proven beyond every reasonable doubt that no thing in this world created itself.

Thorrn:
Going by your logic, God must have been created by something then?

This is goal post shifting for the topic is on proof of God and not on proof that God was created.