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Fiscus105:
Abi oooo, the way u don't know eve's gender but for you to foolishly assume her to be ""she and that she solely committed the simple instruction (obedience) that almighty asked both to obey.

It's like you are a mad person o. (No wonder your first comment was off and did not make any reasonable sense).Who does not know that Eve is a "her" and a :she"? Surely you are person of unsound mind.

Thorrn:
The reason you keep thinking I'm moving any goalposts is because you haven't thought through the implications of your own argument.

If you're trying to hinge your God's existence on your sweeping belief that nothing in this world created itself, then you haven't accomplished anything significant. Demonstrating the objective existence of your God can't be achieved using mere common sense. If there is a first cause, how are you certain that it is the God you worship and not some other deity.



In all you say you still move and depart from the point of the argument.

I said nothing about first cause and as i told you before, when you say "how are you certain that it is the God you worship and not some other deity" you have inpliedly admitted that it is proven that God exist, but are now changing
the post to ask a presumptive question of "WHICH GOD, created this world, which is not the issue, hence you a departure from the argument.

[quote author=Thorrn post=127219459]More importantly, the assertion that everything must have a creator also implies that your God must have a creator as well given that your God also falls into the category of things that exist in this world according to the Christians.

You really need to consider the implications of your arguments before you push them forward.

And I have continually stated that I did not say so about "everything must have a creator"

i clearly said
"no thing in this world created itself. For the issue of the existence of God is confined to this world that we know.

And it arises out of this world, and we are all using our knowledge and experiences in this world to make our arguments.

The bible, the first basis of our belief and the major cause of this debate also focuses on this world where we are.

Thus, "space" travel and diving into matters beyond the scope of the argument is a clear departure from the debate.

And the debate is proof of God which I have given and you have still not rebutted, but have rather impliedly admitted.

Thus calling for the proof of God's Origin/Beginning or proof of first cause or proof of your presumption of God/gods who created this world are all are changes of Post and departures from the argument.

The argument is simply proof of God which you have twice impliedly admitted.

SIRTee15:
....When did God establish his relationship with Israel, when did he announce the union.
he reiterated or emphasised the union.

Was the covenant of union of blood established when Israelites were ONE or when they were two...

Xactly what I told him.

SIRTee15:
Did u read what u wrote all. Paul is writing to the people of Corinth yet used singular verb to buttress their union with Christ.
Why didn't he write ' you are like pure virgins' instead of he wrote 'you are like a pure virgin.

Christ is married to only one church not churches.

U are just being unnecessarily obstinate due to ego. Mr Man , accept defeat and move on.

It's your business if u want to spend your inheritance money marrying more wives. But u won't find that leg to stand on in the bible.

Clear beyond dispute

MiddleDimension:
...So, you can see very clearly in Ezekiel, that he is talking a out two separate individuals and he said He MARRIED THEM BOTH!..

When did the marriage take place? Answer, when they were one wife, Named Israel.

So, it is like a case of a wife who had her torso separated in 2 because of a ghastly accident from the waist up.

The husband of the waist up is still the husband of the legs down even if the wife's torso has been cut in 2. Thus, it's still One husband and One wife with her torso severed in 2. It's as simple as that.

tctrills:
According to you, a child who is 6 years and 364 days is incapable of sin but then he begins to sin the next day he turns 7?
You are the same guy that says God's words ended with the book of revelations and yet you are adding strange teachings that God never revealed.

If you read more of my comments you would see that I explained how a person both children or adults are held guilty by Law and that no where in the bible do you see a single child either accused or found guilty by God.

NNTR:
Her name (i.e. the woman) wasnt at any time ever being Adam.

Genesis 5:2
Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam,

The origin of why wives take their husband's name after marriage.

NNTR:
Adam had no grounds to divorce his missus, and thats simply because he wasnt a saint either. Adam, at all and every level, was just a scoundrel as much as Eve was...

Every reasonable person can see that the only reason he fell was that he made the mistake of loving his wife too much to the point of doing her will even when her will was a disregard and disobedience to God.

For every married man knows wives powerfully harrass and pressure husbands into doing their will and that there is no rest or peace in the house until her will is done.

Which clearly means that make Adam did not intend to disobey God but because of the pressures the wife applied, he therefore commited the crime.

So God took cognisance of male Adam's limited innocence but for female Adam, Hedid not conclude her Judgment. He just have an interim Order which means her case is still ongoig.

Fiscus105:
Cain you mentioned, what was his gender ? And you should tell us his behaviour wen he was alive?

You know his gender and you saw him murder.

Adam is not a murderer, so who is the murderer that fathered Cain?

topshore:
Scripture Text: Exodus 20:12

"Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee"- The fifth commandment Ex. 20:12

I believe that this word is for someone who needs to make things right with their parents so they can get the blessing of a long life. God says in His Word that honouring our parents will lead us to the Promised Land, where we will live for a long time and be happy.

What can we do to honour our parents?
There are different ways to honour our parents, whether they are still living or have died.

1. Forgiving them is the first step. Your parents may have hurt your feelings or made bad choices about your life that are now having a bad effect on your future. ....

How do you proceed in a case where your parents hated you from birth and have been trying to kill you both physically (but God always frustrated their plans) so they tried getting you to kill yourself by setting you up in different ways to kill yourself?

overcomersfaith:
Sincerely, I use to wonder why Eve fell. Why did God judged Adam in the manner He did too? Beloveth do you know that Adam would have save Eve… If he had pay attention to God’s simple instruction… “Do not eat…from the tree in the middle of the garden?”

Read more @ https://overcomers-faith.org/satan-utilized-four-strategims-to-entice-eve-into-sin/

Her name was Adam. It was after they had messed up that Adam technically divorced her and kept the name Adam to himself while giving her the name Eve.

And as a woman you already know why she fell for Satan.

buttlover:
I mean the urge to have sex and after relieaving yourself. That smile on her face and on his face. The fresh blood that rushes throughout the system due to the exercise. To me a sexful man is a happy man. And God wants us all to be happy with each other

Then be happy and continue fornicating, is it not you who is either happy or crying after it all?


That's why people don't care for the cries and wailings of fornicators and their whóres. If anything, it is sweet to laugh at them when they meet calamity.

saintopus:
It has never been a sin, it's religion and human rope sin into it

In the days of old, a fornicator was the scum of the earth. It is today's world where America has turned you all to fornicating dogs who are controlled and contrillable by their joysticks is why say this rubbish.

OctavianAC:
Can you listen to yourself, are you asking "if it matter what God is"? Maybe you are thinking that God is nothing. You are thinking of how earth should, for a question partaining to heaven. Is the earth heaven? Earth is earth which means dust and it is destructible. Heaven is a spiritual realm/home that is indestructible for the incorruptible.

I am saying what God is, and all the other side talk you are trying to raise, are not the issue of this thread.

NNTR:
Jude and Apostle Peter have lambasted people before you, who were perpetuating this foolery about demons having sex with females.

Look at you, not only misinterpreting, but even incorrectly and abusively juxtaposing Genesis 6:2 & Job 1:6 scriptures to justifying your twisted mind, foul heart and perverted mentality....

See denial.

I did not say demons having sex I clearly said
Genesis 6:2. Shows us that the Sons of God which includes Satan as shown by Job 1:6 are very much capable of having sex with women. So bury your head in the ground it won't change Genesis 6:2

NNTR:
One has to be ignorant, dense or dumb, if not all, not to know that, listed in Jesus' genealogy, are one whóre/hárlot and also one pretend whóre/hárlot...

One hàrlot who obviously repented of her whoredôm as God would want and commanded (Revelations 2:21) lineages 100 of centuries far away from Jesus's birth definitely It does not count.

You may have had a point if Mary or Mary's mother was a whôre but none was. So you are talking rubbish.

OctavianAC:
This maybe applicable on earth, while in the heavenly realm God can continue punishment till the forth generation, Deut 5:9. God is dangerous and wicked to those who are dangerous and wicked. Ps 18: 25-26

Your words is "can continue punishment" which means His Court and Trial took placr first before a judgement of guilt and punishment was levied.

So, the question is has a Child ever been taken and tried in God's Court? Check and see if you find one case of where a child was judged by God.

CJStarz:
I didn't get your left and right mixed up response.
Anyways,thanks for engaging.

The short version of what I said is that all men made laws eg constitutions, Statutes, etc all come from Natural Law., I once told you this and you could not accept it.

CJStarz:
See as you dey abuse me.
No wahala.
I won't respond to a mad man's stare with mine.
Udo!

You look your yarn, na normal talk wey person wey dey reasonable suppose say?

On top the fact say mad and wicked people full here, (like the one he own me to see pikin wey dey finger demself) and me i no like to engage dem. So, Ozugo. If you dey reasonable I fit respond and if i no fit, e no hard to talk say I no know dat side.

ELKHALIFAISIS:
u said 7 but some started fingering themselves from 3years does it mean they don't know what they were doing

You are the one who saw them doing so address it.

Hemeshemeheru:
You always sound like a senseless person on this forum.

If you were indeed a sensible person then you would have known that it is a sensenone person who attacks a person rather than his argument.

OctavianAC:
You are talking about natural law. Is God natural or supernatural?

Does it matter what God is or is not as long as the earth is His and therefore, He has dictated and set how His earth and all that is in it should be?

Your deviation will not work. If you do not have any readonable hing to say on the topic, then stay silent.

NNTR:
God communicated with Mary directly about His plan of salvation, which was promised in Genesis 3:15,..

And wasn't Mary a Virgin therefore she was not a whuo.re/herlot whom we see God hates in women to the point that He Commanded all whuo.res/herlot be put to death? Deuteronomy 22:20/21.

Why is the world crying that women are whuores and devils?

They are certainly not the kind of persons God will ever Speak to.

OctavianAC:
I thought you wanted to quote Canon law. Because we are discussing something canonical. Quote Canon law for us too na, since you know law well well.

Canon law is still the same as Lugard's law called statutes and shit. They are all men made.

I speak from God's own Laws called Natural Law which was The First Law in full force over every place of the earth.

Before men became eviler and bandits therefore had power and took over the land and started imposing their own version of laws called legal.

Now the bandits calli themselves government where before they used to call themselves kings.

NNTR:
Give your answers to the following please:
1. Do you agree and accept that Satan is transcendental and incorporeal? Yes or No?
2. Do you agree and accept that Satan is incapable of directly and physically participating in any form of human procreation? Yes or No?
3. Share bible verse evidences (i.e. your alleged 'the evidence kept coming together') suggesting Satan humping Eve nah..

Genesis 6:2. Shows you the Sons of God which includes Satan as shown by Job 1:6 has shown you that they are able to have sex with women.

And Secondly. The Law of After his kind. An evil tree must bear an evil fruit A murderer (Cain) (must birth a murderer (Lamech who murdered 11 people). So who is the Tree of Gain?

Certainly not male Adam for he was not a murderer, so who is Cain"s Tree (father) by vurtue of The Law of Evil Tree, Evil fruit?

Expanse2020:
Is this also inside Bible because this is just white man law not God and Jesus law according to what bible said once you are born from a woman automatically you are a sinner

If read my comments you would see I addressed this.

maasoap:
That's because he's probably still enjoying life. That doesn't mean that he is afraid of imaginary hell or heaven. You die, your chapter is closed. Jesus coming only in your dream

You are just deceiving yourself. We see how fear dey hold una anytime una see say death coming. If nothing dey inside death una no go fear am exactly as person wey no know say lion dey inside house no dey fear to enter d house.

Bliztzer:
I did nt read that part. Thanks for pointing me back to it.

Just making my honest contribution

CJStarz:
Bia,oga,where u get that one from? Na who be d author of dat book? God? Una just dey talk anyhow.

Who you think say make Natural Law and Justice where all una fake and incomplete constitution and criminal code wey no dey do justice finish come from? Na you or bros Lugard and e white family?

No be dem. Na God make am and set am for ground. Dat na why d only way wey bandits way dey call demselves govt fit hold rule, dem need to use Natural Law take protect denself and to take rule una. Dat na why dem make dia own unlawful and fake law make e take resemble Natural Law wey dem call "legal" eg constitution, Act, edict etc

And I don tell you before and like dis you take kolo vex when I talk am.

Bliztzer:
That law doesn't hold incase of intellectual maturity. Some 6 year old has the intelligence of 30 Yrs old.

A child that knows how to tell lies under fear or theat is bound the law of sin.

If you read my comments further you would see you have used the magic word I said brings guilt and qualifiication for punishment which is KNOWING/KNOWLEDGE (mens rea)

5ThChild:
But did they accept christ as their personal lord and savior? If no, then it's hell straight

Read the bible and think for yourself and stop listening to hearsays. It Said you are judged for your dones and doings and about to dos

And not that the Books were opened to see those who accepted christ as their personal lord and savior"

CJStarz:
A 7 year old is part of the electorate,as in a 7 year old is eligible to vote?
A 7 year old, though a genius,can be admitted into a university?
A 7 year old can be tried and sent to jail?
No,a 7 year old can as well marry and impregnate his 7 year old wife!

Anakogheli

You are the one talking rubbish, only a mad person would allow a 7 year old to vote/be voted for, or go to the university or be allowed to marry. Only a mad devil like you can do that to his children. Ediabali