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francotunsco:
Your point is clear. But, we as parents naturally starts punishing these babies long before 7 years old when they err or does something wrong. Does that make us guilty of doing the wrong thing? Since age of liability starts at 7 years as embolddened. Please react.

You punish them as they know and according to their knowing. Which is why we teach them saying "do you know this thing you did is not good? If i do it to you, would you like it? Then do it again you hear. REMEMBER (the knowledge) if someone does this same thing to you, you will not like it and be crying.

A good parent does not punish them for things you know that they do not know and that they are not capable of knowing.

It is always about the things you know, that they know or have known or are capable of knowing ((mens rea), that is what a good just and fair parent does.

ALAGOGO007:
THE HIDDEN TRUTH
Genesis 3:2-3

2 “And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:

3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.”

This word “touch” is Strong’s 5060 and it means, “to lie with a woman.” When you “lie with a woman” it means you have sex. ..

The touch angle! Wow

I indeed felt something about the "Do not touch" but couldn't grasp it. But now it's clear. The bible and it's secret codes. Wonderful.

Another one!

Since the thread pains devil's and lovers of fornications and adultery, it should be brought back

NNTR:
What in exact terms, is it, do you know, coupled with 'someone else saw this too as far back as 2007' sic...

Without ever hearing about this, the Law "by their fruits (seed) ye shall know them/A good tree bears good fruits and an evil tree, evil fruit" drew a line to cain, which goes to his mother which lands on the question "Where did she get a Killer from because Male Adam is not a Killer, and God did not make her a Killer,so where did she get a Killer from?

And the fact shows that she is familiar with Satan, howbeit too familiar. so we have only 2 suspects and make Adam has been eliminated for he is not a Killer.

But, Satan, the serpent, is known to be a Killer for he even got them Adam killed,

So, isn't the fact clear that Cain is Satan's seed and this is a clear case of paternity fraud?

https://www.nairaland.com/7807521/see-another-reason-why-god#125184514

And this was my own investigation that led me to this conclusion of which i remember during my investigation i asked Image123 his thoughts on it, and he said I was talking rubbish, but the evidence kept coming together.

So, it's very refreshing that some other people saw this same issye, even when i never heard of it.

So, insult me all you want but these facts are still there and are going to be there whether you wish to know or not and God Saw them all and they explain His Silent anger and hatred and stand offish attitude towards women which people have now seen that women are evil and woman and Satan are 5 and 6.

NNTR:
What in exact terms, is it, do you know, coupled with 'someone else saw this too as far back as 2007' sic...

Without ever hearing about this, the Law "by their fruits (seed) ye shall know them/A good tree bears good fruits and an evil tree, evil fruit" drew a line to cain, which goes to his mother which lands on the question "Where did she get a Killer from because Male Adam is not a Killer, and God did not make her a Killer,so where did she get a Killer from?

And the fact shows that she is familiar with Satan, howbeit too familiar. so we have only 2 suspects and make Adam has been eliminated for he is not a Killer.

But, Satan, the serpent, is known to be a Killer for he even got them Adam killed,

So, isn't the fact clear that Cain is Satan's seed and this is a clear case of paternity fraud?

https://www.nairaland.com/7807521/see-another-reason-why-god#125184514

And this was my own investigation that led me to this conclusion of which i remember during my investigation i asked Image123 his thoughts on it, and he said I was talking rubbish, but the evidence kept coming together.

So, it's very refreshing that some other people saw this same issye, even when i never heard of it.

So, insult me all you want but these facts are still there and are going to be there whether you wish to know or not and God Saw them all and they explain His Silent anger and hatred and stand offish attitude towards women which people have now seen that women are evil and woman and Satan are 5 and 6.

So it is cool seeing others made their own connection

PeterObi4Presid:
NO......I MEAN AFTER THE DEVIL SAW MY STEADFASTNESS AND REALIZING I AM RESOLUTE IN GOD--- HE TERRIBLY ATTACKED MY FINANCE FEW MONTHS AGO ----BUT I KNOW ITS A MANIPULATION ----INSTEAD IM GROWING STRONGER IN MY FAITH

Grow ooh! That is the only way you can overcome them all and live. It is a grow or fall and die life and it is always a grow or die life.That is what Satan has set up for anyone who dares him to follow God.

LordReed:
LoLz. A fireman allowing his son to go save people is not killing his son for their sins so yeah you are the one with the fallacious analogy....

Exactly! God never killed His Son. case closed No Road! Inspite of all your twisting and mad overstretching, you still lose.
Satan'sseed! Hahahahahahahahaha.

Aemmyjah:
https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/w20090415/Questions-From-Readers/

This "Is there any hope of a resurrection for a baby that dies in its mother’s womb?" Is not the question.

But if you are telling me you stop here, then I understand.

But I do know that God does not waste, so those cannot be abandoned and by virtue of His Law, they souls that cannot be held guilty by Law since they are under the Cover of The Law of The Defence of Tender years by their lack of mens rea

LordReed:
LMFAO! If killing newborns in place of the guilty is absurd and unreasonable and thus illogical so is "sacrificing" your innocent "son" for the "sins" of others. So glad you can recognise the absurdity, unreasonability and illogicality of such a proposition. Bwahahahahaha!

Overstretching an argument to a point of absurdity is fallacious and most unreasonable.especially as by your argument, you are the devil kiilling babies.

whereas No reasonable person has ever thought it illogical for a Father to send His Son, to die, in saving others. E.g. like the father of a fireman who allows his son go into WTC to save people.

Your twisting and fallacious Reductio ad absurdum" and extended analogy. Can never work. No Road devil. Hahahahahaha.

Kepukepu:
Religion is based upon dogma - therefore one is encouraged to have faith in the unexaminable.

“Faith”, by definition, is the acceptance of a concept in the face of conflicting evidence or no evidence at all.”

Does that sound like “critical thinking” to you?

Is it not faith power you used to get a job? Or to travel? Or to believe that you won't die on the operation table?

Every man uses faith even devils too.

LordReed:
Bwahahahahaha! Thus we prove the central premise of Christianity is absurd, unreasonable and illogical, thanks to Dtruthspeaker. QED
LoLz!

Your twisting and fallacious Reductio ad absurdum" and extended analogy. No work. Everyone saw it No Road, devil! Hahahahahaha

Aemmyjah:
He will put babies on trial?

That is what the thread is asking, what's your thought?

LordReed:
LMFAO! If killing newborns in place of the guilty is absurd and unreasonable and thus illogical so is "sacrificing" your innocent "son" for the "sins" of others. So glad you can recognise the absurdity, unreasonability and illogicality of such a proposition. Bwahahahahaha!

Your Reductio ad absurdum" and "fallacy of extended analogy and twisting. No work.

It can't be twisted devil. No Road!

ToyBoyAaron:
2 Kings 3. It was prophesied that God would hand over the Moabites to Israelites. As far as the story went before this, it seemed like a sure victory. But this human sacrifice by the king of Moab managed to drive off the Chosen People even as they were being backed up by God to win this battle.

Your weed is the real mad shit else you would have seen

24 And when they came to the camp of Israel, the Israelites rose up and smote the Moabites, so that they fled before them: but they went forward smiting the Moabites, even in their country.

Or is it that you do not see and understand that Moab killed his son because of his disgrace and shame?

Aemmyjah:
We leave all that in Jehovah's hands

By His Hand and Mouth He has told us that all deads will rise up to go to His Court for Trial, so we can safely take a look at what would happen in that Court on that day.

And even among us evil people, Children are not meant to be brought to court, thus, it is seeable that Holy and Just God would definitely not want little children to be in His Court.

LordReed:
They don't apply. My statement was exactly the same as the question I posed to you, kill an innocent for the guilty and you recognised the illogicality of such nonsense when you saw your own reflection. LoLz.

An absurd and unreasosonable extension of an analogy is illogical and fallacious. So, No e no work. No Road!

FRANELCLINIC:
It's interesting to hear your perspective on this issue.
Okay, now think of this: every child demonstrates selfishness, greed, and envy, leading them to sometimes beat up one another. Some might see these traits as cute, but in reality they are proof that everyone is born guilty of sin...

That's what I am saying. On the quality of Pureity that is Sin none (Holiness) vs. sin fullness, all in the world are sinners.

But for the computation of a declaration of a guilty verdict, every person acaused of an offence/Sin MUST HAVE THE KNOWING that it is wrong to sin. "Mens rea"

Which is where children under 7 are not liable until THEY KNOW! Which is why we even begin judging and when we find them guilty, punishi them FOR THE THINGS THEY KNOW

johnw47:
myth teachers that's of course a lie, cain was a male is why ..."

No where did I say Cain was female, so off point.

johnw47:
eve certainly would not have said concerning cain: "i have gotten a womanchild with the help of the LORD"...

Nature has shown no one says that. Off point.

So abuse and go we already know that you cannot counter the presentation

johnw47:
how dum can one be

eve said : "i have gotten a manchild with the help of the LORD"
because eve got a manchild with the help of the LORD...

See how dum you are not to see that there isn't any issue here other than the fact that you are blind to see or choose to be blind not to see that, nature has shown that no woman says this unless when she had been having girls?

That's why you ran away declaring that you are not interested so rest in dumness and no interest which I told you since the beginning as you began insulting me it is not by force.

So, since abusing me makes you happy, drop your abuse and leave. God will Judge all as you said in the beginning.

johnw47:
false accuser Dmythteacher

your latest myth: " johnw47 is the devils father himself"

2Ti 4:3  [b]For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; ...

Pro_26:11 Like a dog that returns to its vomit Is a fool who repeats his folly

johnw47:
Pro_26:11  Like a dog that returns to its vomit Is a fool who repeats his folly

Says the dum dum who has been repeating his folly all day long

FRANELCLINIC:
Did God make any law about a child under 7 not being responsible? I find nothing to that conclusion anywhere in the Bible, except that one begomes responsible as soon as he knows how to do what is right.—James 4:17;
Proverbs 20:11 says something similar too.

And nature shows us when a child becomes responsible which is tagged around age 7, hence why every nation has section 30 in their fake laws called constitution/statute.

FRANELCLINIC:
However, to reply your post, why do you think God commanded in Ezekiel 9:5, 6 that everyone should be killed, including the ‘little children’?

That is why I said you are mixing up God's standard of purity with Judgment of guilt.

You already know all who die are going to wake up to find themselves in God's High Court for their Trial.

So, the question is shall God's Prosecutors lay a charge on a baby or child saying like "that you, named Nia, on the 12th day of your march 200 BC did break one toy car property belonging to your neighbour, named Wai, thereby committing an offence of malicious damage to property, contrary to The Law"...?

I don't think so. A child though a sinner does not make the requirements and standard of sustaining a guilty judgment. Which is he lacks
Guilty Knowledge.

That was what God was keeping from Adam by prohibiting him from eating the fruit that give knowledge of guilt.

LordReed:
First off there no such fallacy. Second I did point out your illogicality by holding up a mirror to you and you immediately recognised the image. LoLz.

First. there are. They are called Reductio ad absurdum" and "fallacy of extended analogy".

Secondly, these fallacies made your response illogical.

johnw47:
such a girlie, to be expected from a myth teacher

As said by dum dum

johnw47:
Dmythteacher

Joh 8:44 [color=#990000]You are of your father the devil,

Says the devil's father himself.

LordReed:
Then you are also illogical, it's that simple. LoLz.

Tu quqoe does not work. If I was illogical you would have pointed it out immediately but because you couldn't you resorted to the fallacy of unreasonable over extension and stretching. E no work.

johnw47:
false accuser like the devil:

Says the false accusing devil who ran away from addressing accusations.

johnw47:
just more of your continuing dum gibberish, but to be expected from a myth teacher

As said by dum dum.

LordReed:
Ahhh, great so let's wipe some dirt by killing newborn babies.

Clearly, illogical and you are proving how illogical atheists are. Not to talk of the fallacy of unreasonable over extension.

johnw47:
oh duh, i don't teach myths dum dum

Yeah, you give dum dum

johnw47:
cannot stop lying Dmythteacher...

Says the one lying.