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johnw47:
you very confused and of course cannot stop lying:

1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

Says the one confusing himself by twisting and turning like a broken record

johnw47:
most dum Dmythteacher

why would i be discussing your myths which i am not interested in
you as dum as they come, aren't you


attack you, funny, you think truth about your myths is attack

Therefore proving that you can't refute them.

johnw47:
but you are dum, you teach myths

Right now, you have shown yourself dum all by yourself.

LordReed:
Really? What is the logic in "sacrificing" your innocent "son" for the "sins" of others?

Simply, its a clean thing we use for wiping a dirty thing

LikeAking:
Correct!

What else would Satan like you say before?

Kepukepu:
According to Oxford Dictionary: noun. /rɪˈlɪdʒən/ /rɪˈlɪdʒən/ Idioms. [uncountable] the belief in the existence of a god or gods, and the activities that are connected with the worship of them, or in the teachings of a spiritual leader.

Do you have a different definition?

Yes.

"religion
/rɪˈlɪdʒ(ə)n/
noun
a pursuit or interest followed with great devotion.

johnw47:
..."i'm not interested in your extra biblical imaginations" etc...

Is there a better proof of nothing tangible to say than this?

Clearly, you have nothing but insults and ridicule Because

Insults are the arguments employed by those who are in the wrong. Jean-Jacques Rousseau

johnw47:
truly dum one, your lies, false accusations etc. are not sound presentation

you are so full of gibberish, aren't you

Yet since morning till night you could not refute them rather you choose to attack me.

Typical case of
"When you have no basis for an argument, abuse the plaintiff." Marcus Tullius Cicero

Kepukepu:
Whether or not you are religious or not, we can all agree that in religion, logic does not really work but belief. You cannot apply critical thinking to explaining religious tenets, else you will start questioning most of them.

This is why religion will almost always attract least thinkers among us. Religion does not like critical thinking, if you apply critical thinking you cannot believe and religion is base on beliefs.

This is not to say that beliefs do not have some personal benefits. Thank you

Rubbish! Christianity always had Law and Logic in it.

Kepukepu:
What is the logic behind conception without fertilization in humans?

The same as making a car to run on electricity or water instead of fuel. That is the power of a Creator.

johnw47:
Dmythteacher
why would i give rebutting proof to your extra biblical beliefs which i have said more than once that i am not interisted in:

2Ti 4:3  For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; ...

The records here show you not enduring sound presentation.

johnw47:
funny, where are you? are you here?

oh duh your lies are like a broken record

You are the one repeating yourself like a broken record since you got nothing tangible to say

FRANELCLINIC:
...Really, no one is innocent in God's eyes. Children has sin imputed into them as a condition they were born into.
Imagine that I destroyed something very antique and probably one of the last remaining of its kinds, plunging my entire household into debt and servitude to the government—until an exact replica of what was damaged can be found and put in place of the original.
Any child born to me will automatically be born into servitude and debt, through no fault of their own though. Much the same way that some diseases are caused by genetic defects, and are passed down filial generations....”

Would anyone ask your child to pay a debt?

No!

Debts are paid only by adults.

You are mixing up God's standard of purity with Judgment of guilt.

And a judgment of Guilt always follows culpability and no child can be held culpable.

So, as Christ would say, if evil us have never held a child criminally responsible up to even recognizing that God made a law that a child under 7 is not criminally responsible, how then can Good God do such an injustice?

Aemmyjah:
Those who go to heaven are disciples of Jesus and they will rule with God as kings and priests
Babies don't go to heaven

When babies die, they go to hades (Greek), Shoel ( Hebrew) or Hell (English) which is the common grave of mankind...

Aren't they going to join the other deaders to get up from the grave?

johnw47:
Dmythteacher

don't run away, i will be back soon

You are the one running since the only thing you got is abuse and denial.

johnw47:
tormented lying false accuser like the devil,
talk about badmouth, you are hypocrit as well:

Dmythteacher
Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

Your abusing me has just proven me right and made you a person who hates the Truth and loves to live in denial.

"People can choose between the sweet lie or the bitter truth. I say the bitter truth, but many people don't want to hear it. Avigdor Lieberman

Thorrn:
You're the one derailing the argument with tasteless word salads.

Your argument is essentially this: nothing in this world created itself, therefore God created everything.

Yes or No?

Which I clearly stated and you moved the debate from the proof of God to the proof of God's Origin which is not the debate.

Martinez39s:
The presence of mystical beliefs and assorted deities across many tribes that were not in contact with each other does not prove the existence of a deity, supernatural entities, or supernatural dimensions.

These beliefs and imagined deities arose from certain aspects of human nature and the harsh environmental factors during our crude early beginning. Let me explain:....

Be reasonable. We know things imagined in the past e.g. man flying from one place to another, travelling faster and doing things faster and better.

But no one wishes to imagine a God. It is adverse to man.

And while you say harsh environment, as evidence of God's Curse, clearly Africa was not harsh but blessed and Africans respected God until the white devils came with their Curse. And now Africa is cursed with harshness and suffering and all the things the cursed Whiteman devil used to suffer.

jaephoenix:
1. Not everyone has a god[/quote ]

Off point.
You are talking about todays rebellion and apathy towards God whereas, the post was talking about how the people of the past recognized and acknowleged the presence and existence of God in their languages.

[quote author=jaephoenix post=127146025]2. Worship of deities stemmed from man's ignorance about his surroundings. Like floods, rains, fertility. The ancients attributed gods to such phenomena.
So such worship is borne out of ignorance not the existence of such deities

Stop talking ignorantly. From the past till tomorrow both in Georgia or Zimbabwe and in Gboko, farmers, fishermen, hunters pray for a good harvest.

It is because you have a job as a doctor is why you can be a God rebel.

LordReed:
LoLz. So I inspired you to examine your faith in a deity, interesting. Some day you should walk us through your process.

Why do you see me throw capslocked and co to your face?

I was like them and they gave the exact answers I wanted to say. Only for you to puncture holes in them.

And that was when I decided that I really did not know God for I wondered how David, Paul and of course Jesus would have answered you.

And that was when I knew that I did not know God.

So, yeah, you in Spirited me, that's why I like coming here.

Martinez39s:
The presence of the worshippers of a supposed diety does not prove the existence of the diety. People can be deluded, brainwashed, and indoctrinated to worship a nonexistent being or human...

The fact that people, everywhere, of thousands and thousands of years old, who saw how the world was in what we would call the beginning where worshiping a deity, is proof that there is a Deity.

For all people everywhere can not be brainwashed and deceived at the same time and in fact mass brainwashing only became possible with the advent of the television and radio.

LordReed:
Which quite easily can be shown to apply to you.

It can't because this is naturally very unpleasant and like most people I would have preferred to hide in the security of ignoring to continue in the security of not knowing

But, I have been bitten too many times by facts I chose to ignore because I wanted to hide in "I did not know" security. And it did not work as millions of people should have learned but they don't

But for me, I choose to face the painfull Truth, no matter how very bitter it is, i have found out that it is much more better and even profitable in the end to go through the painfull Truth.

Like I have told you before, I came to nairaland because of you in 2019 because it was around that same that a colleague showed me nairaland and then I saw all the wicked but hard and very hard questions and attacks which you used to assault Christians and churchgoers which definitely made me question my belief in God.

But because I faced the truths I saw how God had proven Himself to me and to the world and therefore I started finding all the answers that answered your wicked queries and thus was my faith and trust in God strengthened and that was when I jumped in here and came after you.

So, no one can spin it on me because where Truth is unpleasant everyone finds it unpleasant.

Thus I found what Lewis said here

"If you look for truth, you may find comfort in the end; if you look for comfort you will not get either comfort or truth only soft soap and wishful thinking to begin, and in the end, despair". C. S. Lewis

Templee333:
A newborn baby has more knowledge of heaven than a pastor, bishop and a pope. Heaven isn't a place you go to when you die. Heaven is always present with you but the hatred and jealousy and all manners of vile things in your heart does not allow you to become conscious of it. Your little baby is experiencing heaven until you start corupting it's pure mind with your worldly "wisdom". Parents and grown up are stumbling blocks to newborns, closing the door of heaven before them and introducing them to suffering.

Exactly.

Amotolongbo:
The question is where is heaven?
Does heaven exist?

All na scam

Yet when okada pass you wey you no see, you dey die troway as you don see hell finish until you get yourself kon see say you never die yet, so na curse you kon dey curse the okada man.

Dey deceive yourself. You go soon enter the hell wey dey make you die wenever you dey see am.

CoronaVirusPro:
Oh! So all are going to hell?

Sigh…..

Which baked god do you people serve? A baby going to hell cos he/she never accepted Christ?

Sigh….

He misses the fact that before the carrying away to hell, first comes Trial under God's Law Stating that no person can be punished without a fair Trial, as Adam (male and female) the first lawbreakers got, which is what Judgment Day is about.

And since babies have not yet reached the age of accountability, they can not be charged and tried

AwokenVawulence:
Probably not , everyone is born into sin and must first accept Jesus as his personal saviour before he can be saved

Wrong

Age of liability starts at 7 years which is why Natural Law says that a child under the age of seven is not criminally responsible for any act or omission which is why bandits called govt included it in their unlawful Law called Criminal code. (Whereas even that criminal code makes them criminals also)

Naijaplos:
There is nothing for which they can be punished, they cannot go to hell.
Infant gain heaven thru God's mercy and grace, they seem to escape hell by virtue of merit. ps 127:3, isa 65:8, rom 5:14

Section 30 Criminal Code and God's Law called
Natural Law: a child under the age of seven is not criminally responsible for any act or omission. This means such a child is deemed to be incapable of committing a crime in the eyes of the law.

Hence, No Trial (Judgment Day) for them.

It is churchgoers who support isreal and not Christians for Christians know that their is nothing to support other than a country dealing with its own boko haram terrorists.

johnw47:
and i certainly do deny your myth that eve had a daughter or daughters before she had cain, again funny

It is not enough to deny but to give rebutting proof to the facts asserted, which you flee from doing, but I understand. Truth is sometimes too bitter to swallow.

At least everyone can see God's coutenance and distance towards women and can carry out their own investigation as to why.

johnw47:
Dmythteacher is truth which you call badmouth, funny

All myths are refuted by reasonable arguments and here the only rerefuting is to say myth.

And when I say investigate it, you run away claiming you are not interested, so clearly, you are badmouthing it because you this very unpleasant.

The case of
"We swallow greedily any lie that flatters us, but we sip only little by little at a truth we find bitter. Denis Diderot

johnw47:
Dtruthspeaker Dmythteacher

and now you have seen what i said here

It's allright. For clearly you cannot refute it, so you badmouth.

Hohenheim:
But did God lie about the tree of knowledge?

And did Adam not die according to his eating of the tree of Knowledg, abi you know dia address where dem dey live?