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NNTR:
No but please. The Spirit has been known to leave or depart from people in the Old Covenant dispensation, but the Holy Spirit, in the New Covenant dispensation, came here to stay, not leave.

And yet we see it depart and marriages are even easily broken these days, and people are greatly struggling to hold on to theirs, yet you claim "New Covenant"!

Well, am thank ful that I am not among their numbers.

Janosky:
False claims & empty tantrums of polytheists worshipping 3 deities.

See falling! unable to vallidly defend, change of post, a sneaky attempt to opponent on trial because you can not validly defend your accusation. So now, you are desperately throwing everything.

You have a right to join or form any association even if it is an association of self deciets as fueled by personal and collective Wishes.

AdventHero:
...But to claim that "the green pastures on which we will lie (i.e. grace)" will mean a perfect world.

Perfect world ONLY for those who are the sheep of His flock!

AdventHero:
Remember, even Christ was persecuted, as were the apostles - but the amazing thing was that even in difficulty, they had set their heart on something greater - someplace greater.

That was just a performance for our sakes for us to know that persecutions are not a bother. If you reread, you will see that He was unaffected by the persecutions and it is even that He submitted Himself to them.

Yes. As Don Moen sang "No thing can harm you, o no thing, no thing can harm you."

Janosky:
Empty tantrums.
Pls Continue deceiving yourself.

Sorry dude, We know you people and the truths you hide and would never publicly admit.

NNTR:
2 Timothy 1:7
'For God did not give us a spirit of timidity or cowardice or fear,
but [He has given us a spirit] of power and of love and of sound judgment and personal discipline
[abilities that result in a calm, well-balanced mind and self-control].'

1. What sort of love, do you understand is being talked off, there, in 1 Corinthians 13:4-8a?
2. Is 1 Corinthians 13:4-8a talking of agape love or it is talking of eros love, just to mention one sort of love, thats, at variance with agape love?


I have no qualms about whatever opposition you have about anything not being based on love but based on the persons attempting to love. I can see that clearly, which is why I asked the questions, you seem intimated by and so ducking and diving from answering

Now what I honestly, sincerely and humbly expect from you is just to actually answer the above easy, simple, direct and straightforward three questions. Are you?

I am sure you are aware of John 3:16. Juxtapose Psalm 127:1 with John 3:16.
Is there a new bible printed with John 15:51?..

In other words, these are your own interests and not mine.

And I am sorry I would not be answering them as you would expect for my answers are based on the what we see in this world.

No.3. If people, according to 2 Timothy 1:7, really and truly had received the spirit of love given by God, is it possible then for such thereafter, to defile the marriage bed?[/quote]We see that when people have the Spirit of love, they do not cheat nor defile the marriage nor do any wicked thing AT THAT TIME.

But after Spirit departed, their usual evil returned. We all saw this.

And as you can see, there is no need to answer nos 1 and 2. because the real living which is the issue of this thread is in no 3.

Cutehector:
Na only man dey cheat on wife? Iffa woze all of una slap now.....

Na only man remain to die finish. Woman don die her own.

sidonlook:
Please can we talk more about her cheating on me.
Why every thing against men.
Woman slaps man, the man must have caused it. But man Slaps woman the man must have caused it too and tagged violence against women.
Life no balance atall.

She is dead already. Eve sealed it

It is you the man whose dying is not yet complete.

But it is in your hand to complete the death or escape from it.

Acehart:
On what grounds can a contract be nullified?

Fraud, lack of consent, misrepresentation, conduct intolerable to live with, wickedness/evil, imbalance and exercise of a right to terminate the contract by any or no reason.

MaxInDHouse:
Before you said:
But after i've opened up the scriptures to show you how faithful Nicodemus proved to be you changed your mind and said:

Yep and you surprisingly proved what I know faith is

MaxInDHouse:
So if you now agreed with me that Nicodemus had faith in God and Christ, do you think he can be saved without leaving his former group to join Jesus' group? READ Luke 18:22

To "join Jesus".

You did not say "faith in God and Christ group". You said "faith in God and Christ".

And having faith in God and Christ is just but a little step IF HE DOES NOT LIVE IN accordance with God and Christ.

As many church goers have shown, they know God and Christ, but they do not wish to live accordingly.

The separation occurs when you put away your former living and live according to your new Guider!

And as you see, No group here. Just a solo switch and change of living standards.

And the Bible does not record whether Nico lived according to God and Christ.

"I will lie down in green pastures." This is surely better than a bed of roses because roses have thorns in them. But laying on lawns, is very very sweet!

NNTR:
1. What sort of love, do you understand [b]is being talked off, there...

I have explained that my opposition is not bases on "Love" but on the persons attempting to love.

Psalm 127:1/ John 15:51 is A Law.
"The Lover loveth in vain if The Lord doth not Love with him".

MaxInDHouse:
Nicodemus was a prominent member of the Sanhedrin (Jewish High Court consisting of two major religious group known back then as Pharisees and Sadducees) this man believed all what the prophets said about the Messiah (Christ) when other members of his group were furiously against Jesus of Nazareth being the Christ and ready to expel whoever profess faith in Jesus out of the synagogues even plan to kill him, Nicodemus visited Jesus to have a one on one discussion to learn about God's Kingdom from this same vilified Nazarene, not only that Nicodemus tried to defend Jesus in the Assembly of the Jewish high court!

Surely Nicodemus had faith in God and Christ...

This is Correct.

MaxInDHouse:
but if it's about salvation through a unique group that is indisputable otherwise the Scriptures won't emphasize on a group name "CHRISTIANS" in the midst of several religious groups in the first century Jewish community!

Now this is not correct.

Salvation cometh not from any group. It cometh from The Lord.

And it is those who have understood that the Salvation of God is that they should live as Christ lived, therefore they are like-Christ or Christ-like thus, dubbed "Christian"!

Christ-likeness is a character a person takes up, it is not a group.

Image123:
Lol, that would be impossible.

he knows that but the Desperation makes him think it was a brilliant dea.

MaxInDHouse:
How i wish this is true?
Then i would have remained a Muslim, believe in Jesus of Nazareth and continue worshiping God with what i believes about all His prophets. But it's a lie!

You mean you would have mixed Moha with J.C?

We know you love JW because they uphold your common wishes, else you would not have miss-construed his statements into your personal blindness.

MaxInDHouse:
Salvation can only be attained through a group ...

See, False Group! Even when the Bible has clearly stated from WHOM salvation comes from!

MaxInDHouse:
Nicodemus was a Pharisee and he believe in Jesus but can he be saved based on his faith alone without WORKING with Jesus' group?

Nicodemus did not even have any faith!

MaxInDHouse:
Paul latter accepted Jesus as Lord and Christ, but can he gain salvation without joining Jesus' group to WORK with them?

The Bible clearly shows that Paul Joined Jesus, not group! But like Satan did, Truth must be used to lie.

SPTruth:
Concerning the death and Resurrection of Jesus, the Bible says, in Matt 51 - 53;

At that moment the curtain of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom. The earth shook, the rocks split and the tombs broke open. The bodies of many holy people who had died were raised to life. They came out of the tombs after Jesus’ resurrection and went into the holy city and appeared to many people.

And after this performance of Proof of Power that the dead can re-live, they died again or I should say "re-died" for the final resurrection we are looking forward to.

So, he is wrong!

Image123:
Who cares, just be with God. Is it not better to be anywhere with God?

He is wondering if after death he can do "Prison Break".

slickbak:
No one knows anything about that. Anything you hear is a theory or POV

We know. The Bible was very clear when it said "the dead shall awake unto judgement"

Jakes122:
This is a question so many of us have in mind but finding it difficult to get an answer. Finally, here is David Jeremiah’s answer on this.

He is wrong! When people die, they go to "Awaiting Trial Custody".

Kobojunkie:
Why do you believe in the first place that there exists conflict between God and the Satan to begin with?

Because he is not as stupid as you to think that Satan works for God.

We saw the 2 Employees God sent to Sodom and Gomorrah. God never spoke against them.

We saw the one sent to Balaam. No complaint.

We saw the one sent to Egypt etc

Severally has The Lord spoken against Satan even promising to "deal with him".

But as usual with you, you can not bear The Truth.

doncartel:
The ultimate reconciliation that would end all problems in the whole universe...

That Mad and desperate? Talking politics yet you have forgotten "Just is"!

Rubbish! God's Plan is Best.

On Judgement Day everyone would have their day in Court, Cases would be made, Satan go talk e own, and all the guilty evil things shall be thrown into the Fire, never to work their wickedness forever!

Simple Solution, Just Is Served, The Law full Filled!

NNTR:
2 Timothy 1:7
'For God did not give us a spirit of timidity or cowardice or fear,
but [He has given us a spirit] of power and of love and of sound judgment and personal discipline
[abilities that result in a calm, well-balanced mind and self-control].'

1. What sort of love do you understand is being talked off there, in 1 Corinthians 13:4-8a?

The first qualifying factor is who is the "us" who gets this blessing? ( For that is where I am speaking from and the difference between God Lovers and others)

For as the passage says, the Word I also captured, is the Gift of "Given Us".

Without God's Gift, misery and failure is what awaits all, even if they genuinely love.

People really do not know that Psalm 127:1/ John 15:51 is A Law.

The Lover loveth in vain if The Lord doth not Love with him.

Felimax:
I will not argue with you. My understanding of principles are rules that guides and even though they do, some can be broken with little or no negative effect. With Laws or commandments they are not meant to be broken.

You have said the winning numbers "rules that guide".

The extra phenomenon is
1) "Who is the guider and maker of the Rule, Law or Commandment? (Is it yourself or your neighbour/brother or Someone greater than all men?

2) Shall the guider/Maker do any thing if you disobey or break his Rule/Law/Commandment? (Of course, where you are the lawmaker, you most likely will not punish yourself; Where it is your neighbour/brother, it depends on how he wishes to respond to it. Same for He/Those greater than you, where they are the Law Makers.

Yet, the common factor remains unchanged which is "that which guides"!

Hence, in David's case, you see The Law Maker, dealt with David when and how He wanted to.

Parents are usually the law makers and guides of their children and therefore they can deal with them in any manner they please.

Felimax:
When Jesus was here both Him and His disciples were queried several times for going against the law and in His wisdom He was able to define very clearly that some may just be mare principles.

He said man was not made for the Sabbath but the Sabbath for man,..

In Truth, did Jesus go against The Law? I know you know that the Answer is "No" for when you first read the story, you did not think He did any wrong until His enemies accused Him!

That clearly tells you, The Guide was unchanged but the people who were supposed to uphold and enforce The Guide were an unfair and unjust and even Disobeyed of The Guide.

Felimax:
...till date a lot of people do go to the market and engage in other things when they are suppose to be resting.

I bet you have not seen this Guide:
"Because sentence against an evil work is not executed speedily, therefore the heart of the sons of men is fully set in them to do evil." Ecclesiastes 8:11

Punishment for break of Law always depends on Who is The Law Maker and Ruler!

Surely, if you are your own ruler, you would not punish yourself, or not be able to justly punish yourself! That is all.

As you have seen, there really is no difference between rules, principles, laws and commandments FOR THEY ARE ALL GUIDES!

OLAADEGBU:
is the Watchtower Organisation a Trustworthy Interpreter of Scripture?"[/size]

See how they have identified themselves collectively as God's prophet

Reasonable people know that jws are a group of people who operate on the Wishes and Desires people already have in mind only that reasonable people are aware that they are just personal wishes and not something to be relied upon.

However, jws operate and fuel on wishes.

NNTR:
A lot of men sensually love (i.e. eros love) their wives exactly as some do and that's the reason why they arent restrained never from defiling their marriage

This is not True! Many a men did love this way however, they relied on the Spirit of Love which fell on them to do so, not knowing that the Spirit came for a period to teach them.

paxonel:
To have eternal life knowing that I'm not a perfect being. John 3:16

Knowing that you lost it. God never really complained about perfection. But He certainly did complain that man is evil.

paxonel:
Jw says thank God they are better than others.

Inferiority complex at work.

paxonel:
Born again people says Catholics are worshipping images.

People! Not just born again but many groups of people (Muslims, satanists, fence sitters) have observed this fact and there is nothing wrong in pointing out an observation.

Truvelisback:
I do. I guess, the reason u could easily do what u did was because u have been in deep relationship with the opposite sex b4. If u have, u will understand. This is not to say soul ties cannot be broken.

He does it because he is the one powering it. I can see how he struggles daily to keep powering it lest he fall as others before him and alas he shall say "I am not a principled man"

2) Soul tie is certainly not broken by man, after all the man is not the tier, so it certainly cannot be untied by him.

Felimax:
The moment I got married I cut all ties with my exes. Till date, till tomorrow. I am a very principled man. Let me quickly confess this to you very confidentially, no matter the kind of woman outside, the love and feelings for my wife can NEVER be compromise by the grace of God that is sufficient in my life.

A lot of men love their wives exactly as you have done but that has never stopped them from defiling the marriage.

Felimax:
Life is built on principles and a deep understanding of some of this principles is what differentiate every individual.

Regardless of your religion or believe you get the same result from the way you respect or adhere to some of this principles that is why you can easily see a very rich Christian and a very poor Christian, a very rich Muslim and a very poor Muslim.

Would have love to give some critical examples but I will not, i see a lot of people failing simply because they are ignorant or disregard these principles. Note, I did not say commandments.

I will not say more than this

Do you know principles are Laws and Laws are Commandments, even if you might be the commander in your case?

Kobojunkie:
Oh come on! That's ridiculous!

The reasons are psychological, with absolutely nothing to do with one's soul.

And you did not know or have forgotten or have put it out of your mind that "psychology" is the study of the spirit thing called soul

NNTR:
Fornication is the act of two unmarried people having sex together...

Same thing for and in marriages. The couples should not be have been married before they have sex and that is not fornication.

AdventHero:
What is the Motive behind your decision to follow Christ?

To Live, as is The Creator's Plan and Will for His creations.

AdventHero:
Many Christians have been deceived by their pursuit of selfish gains.

Correction! People and Church goers are deceived and not "Christ-likes".

OtemAtum:
Pls tell me more

They are out there for you to see, if you want to see, no hearsay.

OtemAtum:
Have you been to the hospital? Most of them dying there die silently.

Of course you are a stranger looking in or walking by.

You obviously have not been near the dying.