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kimco:
I hate answers like these. They don't progress anything. We all see the sky above and the ground below yet there are a 1001 religious bodies in the world. And even in christianity so many denominations. So what are youseeing that we too should be seeing. Help us see.

That is the problem with liars. They come to say the ground is above and the sky is below, now, I have stupid and unnecessary problems.

And then people like you come here, claiming not to know which is which, even when it can be seen that the ground is under and the sky up?

What a difficulty!

Seeing starts only when you have settled for yourself, in Truth, (even if you did not like the Truth) whether the sky is above or not.

kimco:
I am not agreeing the guy I am happy with the way he has reaponded. Truth be told I wish you would respond the same way that he does sometimes...not vague and wishy like you mostly do. U fortunately he too has entired into the realm of vagueness at this point. But I like how he begun. You on the other hand..wellll

I am not vague and you I am not being vague. You know that whilst I am speaking from my corner, I am not doing so as a person selling a product trying to ensure that you must buy my product, as he is.

I speak in the manner that you are capable of thinking, then think properly and see that which stands and that which falls.

And it is only Truth that stands. All Lies, Fall!

kimco:
So if you feel pain in your finger, that means the pain is processed in the finger right?

Why do you do this? Why?

The pain in our finger, stays on our finger and we know how the pain landed there and why the pain is there. And in pain, we hold the finger.

From the beginning of the pain in the finger to the end, we know and we see it is connected to the body that they call nervous system.

But how come the pain of disappointment and cheating and failure lands on our chest, which does not even have any physical contact with the cause of disappointment/cheating/failure unlike the finger?

Offpoint1:
Answer my question first, you don't see me mentioning names in the question I asked.

Who should take the blame, the child or you?

Give me honest answer

As I said, God never tested a child.

cosiocan:
That's if Yahuwah permits them to something worse. They are not even happy that I still walk the earth but I will continue to walk until it's time for me to go home.

Satan still walks the earth and has been doing that since and he is still going to get what he is going to get, so you are no different, nor the first nor the last.

FirstSon01:
No one invented the flying spaghetti monster too. I've had personal encounter with the great FSM

Invalid! You can not be your own witness

Therefore, you have no witnesses.

Therefore, you have ended up proving that it is made up and your personal fabrication.

Because

"Truth Exists (and always has histories), Lies are invented! George Braque

So, you see, by your own mouth you confess your fakeness and the Stupidity of your enterprise..

This is obviously a mad people's corner time for me to bail.

kimco:
So how do we see if your way is truth?

That depends on how you See!

If you are not able to see that truth that the sky is above and the ground is under feet, then it would not be easy for you to see the Truth which I Speak!

kimco:
You do know I am engaging him right? He has atleast offered a "religious logic" behind his thinking. This is the kind of engagement I want to see. Not...."God knows best". So relax yourself.

Reasons (logic) whose origin arises from personal wishes and desires are never valid and True, therefore unacceptable. Unless you like riding beggers horses.

kimco:
The bolded especially is factually wrong. But let me let you have your day...provide sources for this claim. If you need sources for my claim I will provide mine too

We have all experienced the pain of cheating and disappointment. And where is that pain located?

Answer: In our chest area. We all hold our chest when we have those types of pain. And Glory be to God, the brain, the headquarters of the nervous system, is not in the chest.

Ever8090:
Thanks, but your sayings dies not seems right for someone in my situation,you need to know Gods words that are suitable for different situations and conditions, this will help you be a better preacher.

Know the right words to console and those to guide and lead..thanks

God and His Word is not like your neighbourhood pharmacy that you order what you need saying "I need something for encouragement" then I would say "take one dose of Psalm 27"

It would not work and it has never worked and in fact that is what made churchgoers atheists. They know the words too, yet it was not effective in their lives.

And for saying this, you prove the Truth of what I always tell people, "you people really do not want God, you just want the goodies He has". And that is where you people become atheist because it is impossible for you people to get or take it from Him!

And I am not here to say what you would like but to say the hard solid Truth!

Offpoint1:
Answer my 2nd question, before I'll talk on your point.

If you have a year old child in your kitchen while cooking, ...

No where in the Bible did you see God ever test a 1yr old or 2yr or even a child. so your question is unreasonable and out of scope.

cosiocan:
I'm already dead...

And you think that nothing worser can be done to you. Smh

gideonjeta:
. But is that the will of God?

It may not be His Will, but most verily, IT IS HIS WILL THAT THE LAW MUST PREVAIL AND RUN ITS COURSE.

gideonjeta:
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So it is clear from what the Bible says, that bad people who continually commit willful bad acts without remorse will not burn in hell but will be destroyed.

When things are casted into fire, they are thrown in there to be destroyed!

sweetonugbu:
blasphemy

It's no blasphemy for I did not insult. I only stated what occurs and shall occur in nature. Spaghetti and Chicken/Pigeons/birds that is a bird's feast.

kimco:
I respect your take. But what gladdens my heart might not necessarily be the truth. Do you agree with this?

Ah! Good to see that you appreciate that Truth is not based on personal preferance and desires and wishes.

cornelboy:
Is drinking alcohol a sin? No
Did Jesus drink alcoholic wine in his lifetime? Yes

He clearly said

"NO DRUNKARD"

FirstSon01:
Your nervous system is not only what you feel in your skin, your heart break pain is passed from hormones to your brain. And this hormones are part of your Nervous system.

And you forget that Nervous system includes one of the sense organs being stimulated but in heartbreak, NO PART OF THE BODY AND SENSE ORGAN IS TOUCHED, so, no nervous system.

Offpoint1:
Stop contradicting bro...
He new and punt on it, so how's that our fault?

Imagine me knowing well, Nigeria would lose a match against Argentina, then I went ahead to placed a bet on Nigeria to win... When the result of whom I've already knew comes, I decided to blame/punish Nigeria for it... Dude does it may any reasonable sense to you? Be honest

It is exactly as you know and knew (omniness), Nigeria can beat Argentina (if they will to) PLUS, Nigeria can loose to Argentina when not serious, and you bet on whatever is your preference.

But, the whole view is that YOU KNEW BOTH OUTCOMES AND THE REASON FOR EACH OUTCOME!

Which is why when Nigeria loses, we always blame them saying "they were not serious enough"!

Very very reasonable!

Offpoint1:
If you drop hot oil in a room with a 2 year old child in it, if they child crawl and dip his/her hands inside... Who's fault is that

Man is not a 2 year old baby, and no where did you see in the Bible a 2 year old write an exam.

Therefore, this is about grown ups and as life has proven it is only a stupid grown up who shall fall into a hot pan of hot oil, only a stupid one.

englishmart:
Heaven and hell are [b]states of being, not places. [/b]

And your "state of being" prove that someone has gone to a Place

kimco:
Good take... Do christians believe in this though?

Nope!

As your response to him reveals, you like this answer because it is wrapped in your very wishes and desire that YOU HOPE you would not feel the pain when you are thrown into the Lake of Fire.

Christians face the hard pain full Truth while jws raise Wishes as their fence.

FatherOfJesus:
Flying spaghetti monster was not invented

Your Confession and Admission of Truth

FatherOfJesus:
..So if your objection to the Flying spaghetti monster is that it's ‘made up’,..

Every soul must confess The Truth whether they want to or not!

AntiChristian:
Why regret if he's omniscient?

Omniscient means "knowing all".

Therefore, GOD KNOWS you can pass if you want and He shall respond with happiness and HE ALSO KNOWS that you could fail (if you do not want to pass) and He shall respond with Pain and Anger.

Thus, Omniscient.

AntiChristian:
God is supposed to know for sure what the future holds. So why would he regret what he knows will happen except he doesn't know?

I have answered this question. Even you know the future of your children for you have a similitude of His omniscientness you know the one that will be a weed smoking agbero and the one that will be working in a respectable place, and you shall regret over one and be joyfull over the other.

RealEzee:
why u talk dis tin abi u chop breakfast from one Catholic babe hand ?

I bin dey eat for Catholic house.

Offpoint1:
Then the "omni" title is null

He Knew, therefore His Omni is very well intact.

kimco:
This post is atleast trying.

But unfortunately I am talking about physical pain.

Unfortunately, lake of fire is not Turkmenistan's Darvazar gas centre aka "door to hell".

kimco:
And who told you emotional pain does not involve the nervous system?

Emotion has always been beyond physical which is why it is even called emotion meaning "energy in motion". And it is not based on the nervous system.

The nervous system only picks it up but no one knows where the energy comes from.

And that is the place and truth of Spirit, for if it could have been found, then it would not be spirit but physical, therefore based on the nervous system.

kimco:
You still need the brain to process the pain...

Till today, the pain of cheating and disappointment is not processed in the brain but "in our chest area."

sweetonugbu:
mugu my prayer for u today is for " his noodly appendage touch you" ur life will no longer remain the same.

Indomie, ọ́kuko would eat your noodle god finish the second he comes out of the pot.

Offpoint1:
Lol, so what you're saying is "we were being punt with? A 50/50 chance of" they'd do it, no! They won't "?

Actually 98/2 with 98 = they won't fail and 2= only an evil person will fall here.

So, you can see how great the fall and the accompanying disappointment is.

AntiChristian:
So why did He regret what He could have stopped? Wasn't He aware of the future outcome of all events?

Regret follows the pain of disappointment, which means that He also knows that they could have done very well of they wanted to, (like when our children fail at thing we know that they could have done very well) with the future outcome being, "Hey, this is one of my sons with Whom I am well pleased."

minks:
Well, the only reason Christians worship on Sunday is because Jesus resurrected on Sunday and the early church leaders thought it wise to celebrate the resurrection of the Lord each week rather than stick to old Jewish traditions and ways of worship.

Yet in church on Sunday, you say "Show me the Ancient Paths. Lead me as you did in the days of Old".

Yet, you have abandoned the Old!

AntiChristian:
Illegal sex is forbidden truly!

But why was the biblical God unable to stop his sons coming to earth to have sex with humans in Genesis 6:1-4?

Same as He did not stop Satan from being evil.

Same as He did not stop Adam from being Satan's agent.

You have a right to exercise your power, and God too has a Right to exercise His Power.

Alexgman1:
HOW CAN ONE SIN AGAINST THE HOLY SPIRIT?

Is this your first time in NL? Do you not see the how here? Even yesterday, there was a thread here.

Or you are just trying to get people to commit this sin exactly as Satan does.

Alexgman1:
Really?

You are happy to receive learnings from a Muslim?