Christianity Etc › Re: God Introduced The Law To Reveal How Lifeless Humans Are. by Dtruthspeaker: 6:15pm On Apr 04, 2022 |
Ken4Christ: You are just displaying your ignorance. It would have been better you keep quiet. I back up every statement I make with scriptures. But you choose to ignore them and remain in your darkness. No one listens to people who do not know! Ken4Christ: Go back to the scripture attached to my last post and refute them line by line. Otherwise remain silent forever on this subject. Your second line "It wasn't God's original intention to guide the Jews by laws" did you in and put you in the grave, proving, you know nothing! I can't deal with people who know nothing and who refuse to accept that they know nothing, despite their instability and several falls and changing posts. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Must We Suffer Before Our Prayer Is Answered? by Dtruthspeaker: 5:46pm On Apr 04, 2022 |
KnownUnknown: Natural born loser talking about winning? From ear to ear, I can’t stop grinning Feeble minded, lucidity fleeting Makes as much sense as a sheep bleating Losers will always Lie, even when it is trite, that records never Lie. But what else shall a loser do in his wail? Thats his business dude, he can kick the pail! |
Christianity Etc › Re: God Introduced The Law To Reveal How Lifeless Humans Are. by Dtruthspeaker: 4:49pm On Apr 04, 2022 |
Ken4Christ: Humble yourself and learn. It wasn't God's original intention to guide the Jews by laws. Complete Departure and Change of Post! Just a short comment: Now, even by your little Knowledge of Law, your words here clearly show YOU DO NOT KNOW ANYTHING. EVERYONE ELSE KNOWS A COVENANT IS THE LAW. And unless you say Abraham, Isaac and Isreal is not the father of the Jews, then you have nothing valid to say. So, as I have always said since the beginning, You do not know what you say and do! So, I leave, for we have reached the end of our dispute. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Must We Suffer Before Our Prayer Is Answered? by Dtruthspeaker: 4:41pm On Apr 04, 2022 |
LordReed: So adults are not born? Why would I be talking of a child, what does a child know? The first stage of adultness is Childress and from your words, one can not tell which you would be interested in, whether adult or child. And remember, I would be wary of you because you are very shifty. Secondly, adults are first children and it is the matters of their childhood that shapens and directs their adulthood. Therefore, it is unreasonable to skip the childhood and just head straight to adulthood, as if, an adult is straightway born an adult. Which is not so. Therefore, I am right to talk about the child for it is the child that makes an adult by virtue of his birth. Excluding the first adults who were not born, by the natural process of what we call borning and birthing, no other person is or was born an adult. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Suffering—is It Punishment From God? by Dtruthspeaker: 4:21pm On Apr 04, 2022 |
plaetton: Human history lays it bare for us to see that anytime humans imagine, they create. Whatever they create changes their destiny for good or for bad. No Gods required. And you are saying the same thing in proving God, for He (The Creator and A Creator) commanded (The Law) that man should be created into something that is resembles Him and also having powers that He has. Therefore, just as God creates and created, man creates and created, in line with The Law! And as you already see and history has proven, man's creations do not create unless and until man commands (Law) them to create. Exactly like what God has done to man So, you are only proving what God had Done already.  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Must We Suffer Before Our Prayer Is Answered? by Dtruthspeaker: 2:32pm On Apr 03, 2022 |
KnownUnknown: Now that this has been seen, I must say your whole being is a sin. Trash fit for the bin. O my play thing, why make a ring when you don't have a ding? Well, do fare unwell, cos I always Win!  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Suffering—is It Punishment From God? by Dtruthspeaker: 2:25pm On Apr 03, 2022 |
plaetton: The destiny of man is not by the machinations of imaginary gods in the sky, in the ground, in the sea or in any fire. History is our best witness.
As a man thinketh, so he lives. As a man soweth, so he reaps. Surely you know that it is not man who made these laws you recited but that man came to meet them here on ground, waiting for him. That clearly tells you, you are under control. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Suffering—is It Punishment From God? by Dtruthspeaker: 2:21pm On Apr 03, 2022 |
gideonjeta: Some individuals have this mindset that their present suffering or sickness or any other bad situations are as a result of punishment from God for their past deeds or sins. Some may also wonder, does God really use sickness to make people suffer for their sins? What does the Bible say about this? Yes! Genesis 3:16 for the womb man and Genesis 3:17-19 for the male man. gideonjeta: Suffering is the outcome of something else. Yes! As an outcome of the Curse upon the something else |
Christianity Etc › Re: Church Rats Will Never Like This Thread! by Dtruthspeaker: 2:16pm On Apr 03, 2022 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Must We Suffer Before Our Prayer Is Answered? by Dtruthspeaker: 2:13pm On Apr 03, 2022 |
KnownUnknown: I could have sworn they were trained to be spleen, or maybe it’s clean.  As long as eaten and death and all bad things to them are removed, they wean, I mean win!  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Must We Suffer Before Our Prayer Is Answered? by Dtruthspeaker: 2:10pm On Apr 03, 2022 |
LordReed: I didn't change anything you are the one changing and I was not talking about a child, I dunno where you got that from. I showed you. LordReed: Really so a BELIVER BORN with a silver soon who has never faced any adverse circumstance in a socially stable country has completed their training? Where, in the womb? A believer born is an adult. He is a child. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Must We Suffer Before Our Prayer Is Answered? by Dtruthspeaker: 2:04pm On Apr 03, 2022 |
Uprightness100: As a man thinketh in his heart, so is he.
To walk with GOD, you need Knowledge and Faith. Nobody has seen GOD but we Believe that HE Exist. That is faith. You also need a Knowledge of ALMIGHTY Being you believe and act according to HIS Way not your way ,Not your feelings, Not your thoughts.
If you wanna Enjoy Christianity, you must walk with GOD according to HIS way and HIS Word. Outside that , you will struggle and be a reproach even as a Christian. And none of what you said is the issue. The issue is you saying "you cannot see yourself as that." Which is that when you are suffering you recommend that a person should not think that he is suffering, even though he suffering but that he should lie to himself that he is not, even though he is suffering. That is not The Way! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Must We Suffer Before Our Prayer Is Answered? by Dtruthspeaker: 1:53pm On Apr 03, 2022 |
ENGINEERG: There are different between: Short term suffering Long term suffering Permanent suffering Generational suffering Short term can become long term, long term can become permanent, All are Sufferings. And man is not made for sufferings neither does he like it. So, what is man going to do about them? That is his choice to make. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Must We Suffer Before Our Prayer Is Answered? by Dtruthspeaker: 1:50pm On Apr 03, 2022 |
LordReed: So we have a healthy wealthy believer and now you've added something else to the mix, he is suffering in some other way. So it's no longer about being healthy and wealthy? Why are you always snaky? You clearly asked LordReed: Really so a beliver born with a silver soon who has never faced any adverse circumstance in a socially stable country has completed their training? Where, in the womb? That, clearly is a child. Which prompted my accompanying answers. But now you are Changing Post and making sound like you asked about an adult healthy wealthy Liver and Follower of God, which was not the case. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Church Rats Will Never Like This Thread! by Dtruthspeaker: 1:38pm On Apr 03, 2022 |
Stephenmoka4: One can't satisfy everyone, one may give and another not knowing. The commandment says "there should not be any poor". Thus, any person who has in abundance, but has a Lazarus and lazaruses and lazarinas around him, especially those claiming to represent God, such a person has a case with God to Answer. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Church Rats Will Never Like This Thread! by Dtruthspeaker: 1:28pm On Apr 03, 2022*. Modified: 1:56pm On Apr 03, 2022 |
truthCoder: You are simply a liar.
Look at the screenshot below. We were talking about God you responded that he left and would come back later. Now you are trying to twist it to the Christ narrative as if you meant the ascension of Christ.  Your CPU is completely broken. Nothing in my response says anything about ascension neither can it be stretched so.  It's your damaged CPU and your guilt of being caught Lying that is not letting you process information well!  Go for repairs instantly, if you like!  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Must We Suffer Before Our Prayer Is Answered? by Dtruthspeaker: 1:16pm On Apr 03, 2022 |
LordReed: At which point did this person's training complete seen they never experienced any suffering? I be live this is regarding the child born rich. Under here, his suffering may not be food and expenses but a different type of suffering eg hatred, abandonment, Alone-ness, failures, laziness, lack of friends and family, use of narcotics etc. Thus, everyone suffers and has his own type of suffering and slavery and hardship which he has to overcome or make worse by whatever living recommendation he chooses to take up. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Must We Suffer Before Our Prayer Is Answered? by Dtruthspeaker: 11:17am On Apr 03, 2022 |
LordReed: Really so a beliver born with a silver soon who has never faced any adverse circumstance in a socially stable country has completed their training? Where, in the womb? A person is not made a Begin to Live (Be-Liver) because he is born. The choice of how he chooses to live is one which he forms himself or takes up to himself as he becomes aware of his surroundings. And based on whatever choice he chooses to take up, he is therefore Trained in it to become master in it. It is exactly as no lawyer, doctor, mechanic, carpenter is born so. So, Be- Livers are not born to be-livers, THEY ARE TRAINED TO BE LIVERS! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Church Rats Will Never Like This Thread! by Dtruthspeaker: 11:08am On Apr 03, 2022 |
truthCoder: You simply dont know. All these repertoire is just a bamboozle.
Of course you cant say any extra rubbish on top of the hallucinated opinion that your god went on a vacation. Trying to justify such a pre-ponderous posturing will only show the world your immense lack of depth on such matters. So you rant on with the failsafe ‘you dont care’ bark.  NO ROAD! Only a Fool opens his mouth to talk about what he does not know and can not know!  And I hate being foolish, so I am usually not a Fool  truthCoder: So your own god is on vacation. Many christians would say their own god never goes on vacation. So which god version is yours? Christ likes (Christians) know He clearly told us He was Leaving to Come Back. Plus, they know the reason why He was leaving and what He was leaving for. It is church attendees and the rest who do not know what is happening, plus what is happening and what is Coming!  But my fellow Christ-likes are just sitting down wherever they are, relaxably watching all that is going around and thanking God that they are not part of it, seeing how they would have been like, if they had not followed Christ.  So, No Road here!  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Must We Suffer Before Our Prayer Is Answered? by Dtruthspeaker: 10:54am On Apr 03, 2022 |
paxonel: Proverbs 29:2 When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice: but when the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn
There is no amount of prayer that can change this rule, so God shouldn't be blamed for anyone's misfortune Yep! This is also there. But at least if the churches did their jobs, the mourn will not include hunger and homelessness. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Must We Suffer Before Our Prayer Is Answered? by Dtruthspeaker: 10:50am On Apr 03, 2022 |
Uprightness100: It does not Matter the number of people. Walking with GOD is a Personal thing. It's not a Community or country race. There will always be Poor people anywhere But If you Personally Understand, Believe and Trust in GOD, you cannot see yourself as that. And that is why I wanted to say you are Wrong! A man who suffers lack and desperately wants lies and deceives himself when he says to himself "I am rich"! No, he is not rich, he is poverty struck. And that is The Truth. And did God not say He is looking for Truth? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Must We Suffer Before Our Prayer Is Answered? by Dtruthspeaker: 10:46am On Apr 03, 2022 |
LordReed: So a believer who is wealthy and healthy has no need for training? A believer in a country with good social services that alleviates any challenges he has, has no need for training? Is this training social circumstance dependent? A Be-Liver, is a Liver (One who lives according to The Word of God) who is healthy and wealthy has completed his training! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Must We Suffer Before Our Prayer Is Answered? by Dtruthspeaker: 10:41am On Apr 03, 2022 |
Uprightness100: When you don't know or understand GOD , you will see yourself as suffering.
But one who knows , Believes and Trust in GOD indeed, will see such times as training. And will wholly and Joyfully follow the Lord.
Before Gold comes out as Gold it passes through fire to be refined. If you are a Genuie child of GOD, forget your Matter and focus on Pleasing GOD with all your Might. GOD is mindful of HIS own and at the appointed time, he will fix u up. I wish to say na lie, but this is also true. However, the question is do people finally get purified? Answer: No. They always flee from the Process! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Must We Suffer Before Our Prayer Is Answered? by Dtruthspeaker: 10:39am On Apr 03, 2022 |
ENGINEERG: This always bother me, our God is a loving God , is our father, and he knows the best thing that we want. He can't want us to suffer.
But must people suffer before their prayers is answered? Or its the country and environment that we live that determine most answers to prayers. Nope! You must suffer first because you are in the WRONG PLACE! Exactly as a person in the desert or bush will have to suffer delays and everything before provision and supply reaches him. And by the time it reaches him, port rats have pinched it, customs have pinched it, ndlea has pinched it, police has pinched it, armed robbers may take it all away or pinch it and by the time it reaches you, it is too small!. ALL BECAUSE, YOU ARE IN THE WRONG PLACE! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Church Rats Will Never Like This Thread! by Dtruthspeaker: 10:32am On Apr 03, 2022 |
Stephenmoka4: . I can speak for myself. As for me I can't satisfy everyone, I give to my capacity, say bless you and everyone go their way. Nobody will know unless someone is spying on me or the person can't keep his/her mouth shut.
In other words, one may give without sounding the trumpet, people will judge if they see or didn't see. First, you are not the one on trial unless you are one of the Pastors being complained of. Secondly, all God's Pastor know the mind of God, which is, if everyone else fails, they have the duty and obligation of ensuring that their is none that is poor in their land. So, having a jet whilst people are hungry and homeless in their midst, is certainly a Crime and a Transit Aggression (Transgression) against Against God! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Church Rats Will Never Like This Thread! by Dtruthspeaker: 10:23am On Apr 03, 2022 |
truthCoder: Goal post shifter.
Who asked if you care or have care?
You said your god left. I am asking when and where did he leave to? Who asked you if you have provisions. And I clearly answered. "I DON'T CARE HOW, WHERE OR WITH WHAT VEHICLE HE TRAVELED WITH. So you see, you Lie. It is even you who shifts the post saying "I am asking when and where" WHERE YOU SAID truthCoder: Insults like these dont move me and only show your irritation..
Simple question.. where and how did your god leave? See, You Lie! No "when".  So, you are the True Goal post shifter!!  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Church Rats Will Never Like This Thread! by Dtruthspeaker: 10:13am On Apr 03, 2022 |
Stephenmoka4: Not really. Capability and as an act of love/faith is something to look in to.
Remember the event at the beautiful gate, "silver or gold I have not". Both are good and I wouldn't say either is better than the other. At least, we see the Truth that, they did not have. But can a private jet owner say he has not to give the poor? It is not for him. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Church Rats Will Never Like This Thread! by Dtruthspeaker: 10:05am On Apr 03, 2022 |
truthCoder: To even do a basic research is too uphill a task for you.
You that your grand parents were sold a religious scam by the invading colonialists still bask in the euphoria of limited understanding of the concept of religion many years later.
Old man, open your aged sinuses and let reason enter.  As you see and cannot counter, I already know what they are about and that they have no profitable use. I'm all about profits and gains and goodnesses and happiness ONLY. Which I have obtained and happily kept and smilingly enjoying. Life and living is very very good and swwet for me.  So, son, do take note that you are using an imported phone, maybe you have a car and other imported stuff, BECAUSE THEY ARE PROVEN TO BE GOOD, SWEET, PROFITABLE AND DID NOT CAUSE TROUBLES.  So why would I ever want to do a foolish thing to have the miseries and pains and sufferings and lacks and Curses others like you have? I Love Blessings.  And living has shown that blessings are definitely better than Curses.  Only a Fool Chooses Curses!  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Church Rats Will Never Like This Thread! by Dtruthspeaker: 9:54am On Apr 03, 2022 |
truthCoder: Insults like these dont move me and only show your irritation..
Simple question.. where and how did your god leave? That was not an insult!  Secondly, in response to your question, my Answer is "I DON'T CARE HOW, WHERE OR WITH WHAT VEHICLE HE TRAVELED WITH. AS LONG AS HE HATH LEFT PROVISION FOR ME AND MY FAMILY BEFORE HIS TRIP, AND I HOW I COULD ALWAYS REACH HIM WHEN I NEED TO, I AM FINE! DIDN'T CARE FOR NONE OF THOSE SHITS!  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Do You Know That Judgment Day Is Coming? by Dtruthspeaker: 9:47am On Apr 03, 2022 |
Maynman: Take your daily dose of curse, .. The curses of the Cursed are just the signs that they are crying out in great pain! Even madmen know this but I guess, for the first time in the world, the peoples are seeing a madness worse than mad! So my Curses have taken hold and given effect already! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Should Christians Take Antidepressants? by Dtruthspeaker: 9:37am On Apr 03, 2022 |
ReacherSaidNoth: You are right, just like people with HIV have to combine their drugs with prayer otherwise they perish like those fools who only depend on drugs. You know what the really wise people do? They don't take any drugs because Jesus promised that with faith we can move any mountain  People with HiV are already are already fools usually. To have HIV means you are Cursed and Out! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Should Christians Take Antidepressants? by Dtruthspeaker: 9:33am On Apr 03, 2022 |
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