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musicwriter:
This topic have many forms it could be based. So, yes, you may be right from your narrow RELIGIOUS point of view and not right from LEGAL, PHILOSOPHICAL, ETHICAL, etc point of view. Sorry, you don't understand what this topic is about.

It is you who seeks to wrongfully narrow it.

No matter what, no one in the world can reasonably and validly talk about evil, without talking about The Good nor about Rights and Wrong, nor about Law Full and Unlawfull.

They are an Inseparable Whole!

musicwriter:
This thread isn't about human rights. It's about good and bad from serious philosophical point of view NOT from political point of view.

I haven't read responses pass the first page but I have a feeling this thread won't be understood.

When you talk about evil, you must talk about Rights and Wrong, Good and Evil, Law Full and Unlawfull.

They are inseparable!

Myer:
...Today Christian's are the ones persecuting non-Christians.
So many scenarios where Christian's are the ones persecuting non-Christians now...

As I always say, Church goers are not Christians.

Christians do not do any of these things you allege.

So this is False Accusation. Channel your grievance to the proper persons

Myer:
.... Matthew 5: 10-12

"Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven...

What this means is that to be a true Christian you will face persecution for Christ's sake.

Correction! The Word for "Rightness aka righteousness Sake".

See, your foundation is already bad.

Myer:
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This was because Christianity was a minority in the days of Christ. He faced persecution from the established religion- Judaism. And even got killed for it.

Wrong!

This is because people Hate that which is Right, since they are children of Unrighteousness.

Which is why Step 1 in the Conversion/Transformation is "Seek God AND HIS RIGHTEOUSNESS". Not your righteousness which is Unrighteous when measured.

But God's Rightness is ABOVE PERFECTLY PERFECT IN RIGHTNESS WHEN JUSTLY MEASURED AND JUDGED.

That is what Christ Followers know and Defend, which is what you people attack and yet you expect us to keep silent and be peaceful.

You guys must be crazy!

Myer:
Persecution is one of the issues you face when you oppose any established religion(s).

You people are really crazy O. You attack us and you expect that we would not defend ourselves?

Then you call our defence persecution?

You guys are out ya minds.

CrazyMan:
You obviously missed the point I was trying to make.

By following God's direct instructions like Abraham when God told him to leave his father's land, was a blind Faith to people around him, because he had no idea where he was leading them.

But it wasn't a blind Faith to him (Abraham) because he was following the direct instructions from God.

People around you might not understand certain actions you take cos they're blind to the path way God has prepared for you...where the problem lies is when you're exercising blind Faith on man's instructions eg. Your pastor or spiritual leader.

Okay, you mean people were blind to God's Plan over Abraham and would have been stopping Abraham from obeying God.

But Abraham, knew! I get it.

abbey621:
You are just contradicting yourself, if we are to go by your definition nothing we do in this world matters at all since they are of this world and this world alone......

That is kobojunkie for you, the fountain of both bitter and sweet waters. James 3:11

LordReed:
LoL! Sticking out the tongue is evil? Bwahahahahaha!

excitement in being evil and for evil, is Evil!.

LordReed:
LMFAO!

PROOF OF THE LOVE FOR BEING EVIL!

Awoo88:
Our actions as relative. There is no exclusively good did or evil did. What you term evil might be good and beneficial to another. And sometimes, your intention no matter how noble, the result is evil towards some. that is why actions and results are judged, not the intention. Evils are not necessarily a bad thing neither is good necessarily a beneficiary thing.

Wrong the intentions are judged also.

Also, you do not know this, when a person any wicked act, he immediately loses many of his rights, which is why no one would ask him "what is your view?" But rather "Did you do so so and so?" "Why?" (his intention is now under judgement)

maiquel:
Y'all should understand that not everything that is bad is evil, some things are just not good morally wise...
And morality is relative.

So... my question is
What is evil?

This is where you learn the Grades of Things which are Not Good from the lowest to highest order

"Neither good nor not good" to "Not good" to "Bad" to "Very Bad" to "Very Very Bad" to Badness Infinitum (Evil)

Thus, what is evil?

Answer: That thing which is very very very bad such that you gave up measuring it's badness.

TheGift:
As long as you have called it evil, any justification of evil, is itself evil and a furtherance of evil.

Perfect!

Styluss:
I think one of the instance op meant is when you cheat someone because you want a better life yourself and your family.
Doing crimes and fraud as an avenue to escape poverty is evil... But justifiable because it's benefitial to the perpetrator.

I think that's an example

Justification means exculpation (Removal of Guilt) and not "Mitigation" of Punishment. (Allocution/Allocotus).

Thus, this is not a justification but "A Guilt with Reason"! Eg "I slept with the man so that I could get you the job" or "I stole to feed my family"

These are not justification but admission of guilt with reason.

BabaIbo:
Just as every human on earth have a certain level of envy in them, but the control is what separates them.

You can't justify evil. What is bad is bad and what is good is good.

More like a married man confessing to his wife about his sexcapade after he was caught red handed by his wife, "Honestly Baby, it is not what you think, I inserted my D into her hole because she told me she is cold and seriously feverish, so she needs heat and something to make her sweat, I volunteered to help her since there was no one around to assist her."

Conscience: Eminem and Dre

"She tripped, fell, landed on his dee.k"l

musicwriter:
Nothing is good or bad. Good or bad depends on your point of view. It's your motive that creates the illusion of good or bad. Something could be bad to me but good to you.....and vice versa.

WRONG

musicwriter:
Let me give you few examples:-
From your point of view that would be a good thing, in fact, most religious people would go give testimony in church. However, from the point of view of the armed robbers, that would be a very bad day.

Wrong!

When you do an unlawful act, YOU LOSE YOUR RIGHTS.

Thus, the views of the armed robber does not come up for consideration at all.

Which is why no one asked the unlawful man "how do you see it?" No.

All that is asked is "Did you do so so and so...?"

That is what God has done.

musicwriter:
Another example:-

If you love a beautiful girl seriously but she doesn't love you back but instead loves your neighbor. Is that good or bad?

This is a Clash of Rights! There is no evil where rights are.

And this is where you mix up the feeling of pain and loss and disappointment and wrongfully elevating/downgrading them to evil.

This just shows that you are not yet able to distinguish evil from other unpleasant factors.

thebosstrevor1:
Evil is when you burn down police stations and roast alive police men all because you didn't get justice, that is barbaric

No, it is not!

It may be excessive but, it may not be wrong. For the house of justice can not be the place of injustice.

And if it would not do the justice it was set up to do, then it is law full that it be deleted.

Nature will provide another avenue of justice.

Gunboysavage:
One day I would buy a Gun.. any fulani that tries trash with me ehhh.. SMH! You gerrit?, if you don't get it, forget about ittt

He who exercises his law full rights, does no wrong.

GboyegaD:
What are you saying?

I believe you wanted to say that any person who attempts to justify evil, proves he himself is evil.

Like we can see and foresee, an evil man will not see anything wrong with the wicked act of his fellow evil man.

Acidosis:
The way we deploy that innate defence mechanism is what makes the difference. You can go to jail for doing the right thing.

You are not supposed to go to prison for doing the right thing, that is what The Original Law Said.

But killers have deceived everyone into not knowing The Truth of What The Law hath Said.

Which is "He who law fully exercises his rights, does no Wrong".

They never teach this Law in Law Schools or in Law Classes, so you can imagine my shock when I found it.

And it is because of this replacement of Just Laws with unlawful laws, that is why injustice is in the land, for people are taught that these unlawful laws are Laws whereas they are all unlawful and illegal and void.

But people do not know and most lawyers too for they taught these unjust laws as if they were True!

Hathor5:
Killing a person in cold blood and saving yourself are two different things. Defending yourself from your kidnappers is not evil so you would not need to justify any evil here.

Exactly!

GboyegaD:
It can never be justified and most times I see those who try to justify evil in whatever way as lacking integrity.

Speak the whole Truth, you wanted say that they are evil themselves.

Exactly as a thief will not be willing to condemn his fellow thief.

kinglaxon:
Good day fellow nairalanders, i really don't knw how best to explain this.

I have two friends who have been staying with me for almost a year. Mind you, they are very close friends, but I've been the one providing the most in the place we stay. First they wanted to try blogging as a profession because they saw me doing it. I had to take my time to teach them all they needed to know and we all started off. After a while, they weren't getting profits like I was. I had to give them my own site to take charge and Google adsense disabled my adsense account just after a month! But we had to try out something else. I thought they knew how affiliate marketing works. I had to make sure everything was fine and good, set up ads on Facebook, build a website, and all things were going fine till I had to travel for my elder sister's wedding and before I got back, they had the Facebook account I used to run ads taken down by Facebook. At that point, you can imagine the frustration on my face. I could go on and on, but the thing here is that I see the consistency in them when I'm around. They don't even know I'm watching, but it doesn't take much time for things to blow up and we're back to square one. I had to start doing this privately, so nothing ruined it. These, my friends, are Chronic Salvation Ministries members. I'm still trying to show them some other things, but every day I pray it works for them. 

Please, if this has ever happened to you, please share your experience and advice. Thank you.

Erm, my brothers in the markate will tell you that you are attached to Bad Luck (Cursed) people.

And your header is mischievous and very misleading and very bad

LordReed:
Nah, god needs to come and tell him specially to go but when people like us say we need god to come specially to speak to us we are evil. LMFAO!

You are evil because you love taking the evil option and almost never the good option which is also there for you to choose and take, but no, lover of evil must always choose the evil option.

XXXXTENTACION:
Bla bla bla bla bla...
if you truly serve a living God why don't you go and preach in sambisa forest...

STILL RUNNING FAR AWAY WITH THE POST .

Favfables1:
The same scriptures that tells you, "thou shalt not kill" in exodus 20:13, then tells you in exodus 21:29 that "any man who's ox has a habit of maiming people and the man having been warned refuses to keep the ox in checked, that man should be killed"
It also says in exodus 22:2 "that if a thief be found stealing and he is struck and he dies, the one who struck isn't guilty"

So do you see that what we term "evil" is circumstantial (ie based on circumstance)...

All you are saying is that evil is determined and Prescribed by Law in all situation aka circumstance.

Favfables1:
If all killings According to you is evil, why would God say that a man who killed another man isnt guilty of that evil

I never said that!

I simply described the Law Full places of the words conveying the lawful or unlaw full killing of a person.

TrajansKong:
This is a perfect point-by-point model of our fear-based African Slave-Mind and why we will never abandon it.

You are just repeating what you said earlier, which clearly means that you can not rebut, for it is beyond argument that FEAR IS ONE OF OUR RULERS whether you want it or not.

TrajansKong:
From one anti-religious troll to another, this is truly outstanding work.

I'm impressed and stand in awe.

I never insult a person who did not insult me, so you have to learn to the distinguish the difference between an insult from the description of a certain act. Eg when you see a man sitted at the dustbin, dressed in tatters making monkey sounds, it is not a troll to call him insane.

1Sharon:
It took slavery and colonization for us reach God?

Nice God.

Goodl, ought to come out from everything. As we say, "e no dey good if e bad patapata."

So definitely, this proves that God was Good.

emerged01:
Only God that can determine what is evil.

And He has set the difference between Good and evil.

emerged01:
I believe that is the reason God does not allow human to pass judgement.

We are supposed to check our Judgement with Him and we actually do, which have seen play out that in one case, a thief is whipped and burnt and in anoher case a thief is whipped and sent away with a warning.

Men think it is them passing and executing Judgement, But it is actually God Himself.

The people (judges) just felt and knew that was the right judgement in both cases and if you look closely, you would see that all who hear that judgement do affirm it was right even if they expressed their desire for other judgements to be added upon or taken away.

That is the Power of God in Action.

emerged01:
In some cases to human,we can determine evil but not in all cases. What seems evil to us may not be evil,hence it may be called justification of evil to human but not God who sees differently.
Above all,God cannot justify evil.

And this is where Moses and His Family, the Levites hold sway being Law,ers now Lawyers.

God taught Moses The Law and Judgments which he in turn taught His Family making them Law,ers as himself.

And all Laws all over the world come from Israel who had the best Laws Ever, so all law,ers follow after Moses (and ought to follow after him for their own soul's sake), which is why law,ers have the power and validity to determine evil, for Law Comes from God and It is He who taught law,ers The Law!

1Sharon:
...They didn't like you. Why would they show you the way to heaven is by believing in Jesus?

They actually did not intend to do that but God is Powerful and Used them to reach us.

LordReed:
And atheists don't have these things is what you are saying? LoLz

EXCEPT TRUE LOVERS OF GOD, NO ONE OR HOUSEHOLD HAS IT, ABSOLUTELY NO ONE.

"Shouts, shouts of joy
And victory resound in the tents
Of the righteous of the Lord
Shouts of joy
And victory resound in the tents
Of the righteous of the Lord

The Lord's right hand
Has done mighty things for us
The Lord's right hand
Is lifted high
The Lord's right hand
Has done mighty things for us

The Lord's right hand reigns on high
The Lord's right hand reigns on high

Shouts of joy
And victory resound in the tent of the righteous of The Lord!

XXXXTENTACION:
what of the noah flood..
what of sodom and gommorah..
your God is a weakling...
a weakling that can't even protect his own world...

CHANGE OF POST! you were stupidly thinking that God was your Father, but now that I answered you, you have abandoned it and continued to prove that you are in truth your father, Satan's Child.

To the stupidity you said up, that is what makes you people very stupid, you people are stupid enough to imagine fighting your Creator and expecting to survive.

The flood and destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah, was just a taunting and Toying, you ain't seen something yet!

There is more where that Came from!

XXXXTENTACION:
Name something that religious people have that atheists don't have...

Not religious people ONLY LOVERS OF GOD, TRUE LOVERS OF GOD.

Many! Joy! Unspeakable Joy, Unending Peace, even during plagues, we are unaffected, we can not be bothered (He is our Peace when Trouble Blows, Jehovah Sees, Jehovah Knows, Rest, Plenty Rest. (We do not work like headless chickens, 4 am to 10 pm, and yet we obtain full reward of the day), Success in everything (work, business, engagements), Sweet Marriage, Daily favours, whatever our hands touch prosper, the plans of our enemies both known and unknown are always crushed, (no weapon fashioned against us ever prospers ) and no matter what move we make that we later thought was a bad move, O, how they turn to become the very best move ever (All things worketh out for good Exactly as God Said)

WHICH IS WHY YOU WILL NEVER HEAR US LAMENT BUT HIS PRAISE IS CONTINUALLY IN OUR MOUTHS.

"Shouts, shouts of joy
And victory resound in the tents
Of the righteous of the Lord
Shouts of joy
And victory resound in the tents
Of the righteous of the Lord

The Lord's right hand
Has done mighty things for us
The Lord's right hand
Is lifted high
The Lord's right hand
Has done mighty things for us

The Lord's right hand reigns on high
The Lord's right hand reigns on high

Shouts of joy
And victory resound in the tent of the righteous of The Lord!