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Christianity Etc › Re: The Lord's Day Vs The Sabbath by Dtruthspeaker: 6:13am On Aug 14, 2021
PeaceJoyLove:
God poured out His Spirit after Jesus left this world. All what you quoted are while He was on earth.
Now you have Changed Post for you said it was not in the new testament to observe and obey The Law of the Sabbath.

PeaceJoyLove:
However, we believe that if God can pour His spirit on a Sunday, let us adopt the day. Simple.
And the counter is The Lord Himself has given you a Day Already, when you and Him should meet and can meet.

But now, man is dictating to his God, that The Lord should meet them on their own day, of their own choosing and adoption.

Shall the pot instruct the Potter? or shall man dictate to his Maker?
Christianity Etc › Re: An Honest Liar: The Amazing Randi - Expose Of Frauds by Dtruthspeaker: 4:59am On Aug 14, 2021
HardMirror:
WHAT EVIDENCE IS HE EVEN TALKING ABOUT? THIS GUY HAS NOT PRESENTED A SINGLE EVIDENCE SINCE. HE IS JUST RANTING
Just as none of you can differentiate the Hydrogen from the Oxygen in 2H2O, so also can you not spot that which is "Evidence".

So just as you are an illiterate in identifying the Hydrogen from the Oxygen in 2H2O, so also are you an illiterate in identifying that which is Evidence, which makes you all rant and stamp thy feet, as a child in tantrums, all the day long grin grin
Christianity Etc › Re: An Honest Liar: The Amazing Randi - Expose Of Frauds by Dtruthspeaker: 4:54am On Aug 14, 2021
HellVictorinho:
It doesn't matter since you are the one saying it.
grin I must be the one who says it because I am your opposing player who must watch out for when the ball goes out of the game so that I can claim my point. grin
Christianity Etc › Re: The Lord's Day Vs The Sabbath by Dtruthspeaker: 4:50am On Aug 14, 2021
PeaceJoyLove:
I am not going to say you are wrong with your faith. This is an issue of preference as far as I am concerned. And all you quote are in the old testament. If your faith is based on the old testament only, it is fine.
The New Testament Also Respected The Sabbath Day.

“pray that your flight may not be in winter or on the Sabbath” (Matthew 24:20)

(Luke 23:56) “and rested the Sabbath According To The Commandment” . Luke wrote this account at least

Christ Entered The Synagogues to Teach Regularly on The Sabbath Days.

PeaceJoyLove:
If you have to go against the first day observers, you will need to do more. You will need to go against the New Testament and prove beyond reasonable doubt that those who worshipped God on the first day are in violation of it.

I will give you a point I want yoy to counter in my next post. If you can counter this point and tell me that the participants are in violation of the word of God, then, I will accept that Sundays services are in vain.
I will speak sharply!

"The first day observers" have honoured the first day more than the Seventh Day which The God and The Law Commanded.

"The first day observers" have blocked the compliance with The Law of the Seventh, such that if you ask anyone on the street, that which day is the Holy Day? They shall answer, Sunday!

That is their crime and violation.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Lord's Day Vs The Sabbath by Dtruthspeaker: 4:22am On Aug 14, 2021
Bishopkingsley:
New Living Translation
So don’t let anyone condemn you for what you eat or drink, or for not celebrating certain holy days or new moon ceremonies or Sabbath.
As I told you the last time and you could not answer, this statement is for those who have attained Holiness and not for the ordinary sin full folks, for such people are Holy everyday and therefore, they have a lot of Holy Days and not just one day. But many

Sabbath is for sinners that they may learn to be Holy, one day at a time, in fulfilment of The Law of "Be ye Holy" if they will.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Lord's Day Vs The Sabbath by Dtruthspeaker: 4:11am On Aug 14, 2021
PeaceJoyLove:
If the apostles were in violation of the law of God, why would the Holy Spirit come upon them on a Sunday? Please, I need the Sabbath worshippers to come and counter this claim of mine. Anyone?

Eviana, Dtruthspeaker, or anyone
Please refute my claim sirs and mas.

Why would God pour out His Spirit on a Sunday if He doesnt accept our worship on the day? Why would God honor the day if the apostles violated the law as claimed by Sabbath worshippers?
Firstly, The Law does not Restrict the Worship of God to any Specific Day, for the Love and Desire towards God always brings about your loving Him Daily, For Everyday, He is Always Good.

Psalm 145:2 "Everyday will I bless Thee; and I will praise Thy Name for ever and ever."

Neither does it COMPELL, the Worship of God.

So, Secondly, The Law Never prohibited the Daily Worship of God or the setting aside of a Day of Worship to God. No such Law exists.

Thirdly, the Worship of God on a specific day such as Sunday or any other day is not in conflict of The Honouring and Compliance with The Law of Sabbath.

For Worship can be done everyday including the Sabbath But Sabbath is not everyday.

And The Law of the Seventh Day Must be complied with so as not to violate it, no matter what goes on in the world.
Christianity Etc › Re: An Honest Liar: The Amazing Randi - Expose Of Frauds by Dtruthspeaker: 3:34am On Aug 14, 2021
frank317:
He is not able to identify evidence...
He refused to see evidence....

I think u are confused.
grin You are a meddlesome interloper, since you are not a Partee, in the trans action so you must be confused.

This is where you learn The Law of "Locus Standii" grin grin

You no locus to speak on the matter and since you have no locus, you must obtain confusion. grin grin
Christianity Etc › Re: The Lord's Day Vs The Sabbath by Dtruthspeaker: 3:50pm On Aug 13, 2021
Bishopkingsley:
Those who worship the Lord on a special day do it to honor him.

In other words
. Those who worship the Lord on a special day (etc every day) do it to honor him.
"If you Love Me, Keep My Commandments" is The Law!

To Obey God, is better than everything else!
Christianity Etc › Re: Do Atheists Believe In Heaven? by Dtruthspeaker: 3:46pm On Aug 13, 2021
1000Capacity:
What do you want to go and do in heaven. It's senseless living for ever
As it is always the poor who know that they shall never prosper, who say "wetin person wan do with wealth, so also it is the one who now knows that God has thrown him away as rubbish to Die forever, who must say "It's senseless living for ever"! grin

Eternal Living is Always for the Living, not the Dead or the "To be deads". grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Opinion: It's Senseless Living For Ever by Dtruthspeaker: 3:23pm On Aug 13, 2021
1000Capacity:
Why would anyone want to live forever, either on Earth or somewhere else, a place which cannot be proven to exist...
It Is Only people who live under The Curse of The Creator who will surely need their sufferings, failures, shame and disappointments to come to an end.

Only for them to still be going to another place of even greater pain and suffering (BECAUSE THEY ARE VERY WICKED AND EVIL), to continue living there eternally.

Surely, such a person will like to hope that this present living under these conditions, will have a permanent and deleting end.

But All those who are under The Blessings of The Lord know that the value of Eternal Living is an Eternal Living of Enjoyment, Joy, Satisfaction, Fullness, Unending Accomplishings, Unending Wellness and No End to Good, Gooder and Goodest Things!
Christianity Etc › Re: An Honest Liar: The Amazing Randi - Expose Of Frauds by Dtruthspeaker: 3:10pm On Aug 13, 2021
frank317:
U are insane if u say i dont exist after interacting with u. ..
grin That same insanity is on you for I know that I am speaking with John142 who exists but Frank317 does not. grin

frank317:
He refused to see it... What ever that means.
grin That's why you should not enter into what you do not know! grin

frank317:
... Is this how u prove ur so called all powerful existent God?
grin Change of Post.

The Post is your brothers are not able to identify evidence even with their eyes open. grin grin
Christianity Etc › Re: The Lord's Day Vs The Sabbath by Dtruthspeaker: 2:56pm On Aug 13, 2021
PeaceJoyLove:
My position
I attend services on Sunday, but if I found myself in a city where services are only on Saturdays today, I would gladly attend as long as I am convinced the church is a spirit filled church. It doesnt matter to me if the day of worship is on Saturdays or Sundays. What matters most is the check inside me which is the discerning spirit. As soon as I feel the flow of the spirit, that is it.

What about you? Do you agree or disagree with me? What are your reasons?
My humble opinion is you are in Violation of The Law of God for He Severally and Repeatedly Commanded, "Keep The Sabbath, (the 7th) .

If you look carefully, you will see that God was very Angry with Moses for not teaching and compelling His Elect to observe the Sabbath. Exodus 16:28/29.

Complete Obedience to God is greater the "check inside you".

Obedience to The Words that Come Out of The Mouth of God IS SUPREME!

Further, The Count of A Day in the eye of The Lord is "the evening and the morning" and not morning and evening as you think. Genesis 1:5, 8,13 Exodus 16:8 etc.

The Lord, Jesus Christ Hallowed and Respected that Day which is why He Rose up on the Day After Sabbath.

And IT IS ONLY BY COUNTING THE DAYS Using The Law of the evening and the morning, that the Resurrection of The Lord would fullly fill 3 Days.

Therefore, Sabbath commences Friday Evening until Saturday late afternoon.

Now you understand why the evil put the religion of Clubbing and Sinning on Friday Nights.

It is meant to desecrate and defile The Holy-Day!
Christianity Etc › Re: The Lord's Day Vs The Sabbath by Dtruthspeaker: 2:48pm On Aug 13, 2021
PeaceJoyLove:
My position
I attend services on Sunday, but if I found myself in a city where services are only on Saturdays today, I would gladly attend as long as I am convinced the church is a spirit filled church. It doesnt matter to me if the day of worship is on Saturdays or Sundays. What matters most is the check inside me which is the discerning spirit. As soon as I feel the flow of the spirit, that is it.

What about you? Do you agree or disagree with me? What are your reasons?
My humble opinion is you are in Violation of The Law of God for He Severally and Repeatedly Commanded, "Keep The Sabbath, (the 7th) .

If you look carefully, you will see that God was very Angry with Moses for not teaching and compelling His Elect to observe the Sabbath. Exodus 16:28/29.

Complete Obedience to God is greater the "check inside you".

Further, The Count of A Day in the eye of The Lord is "the evening and the morning" and not morning and evening as you think. Genesis 1:5, 8,13 Exodus 16:8 etc

Therefore, Sabbath commences Friday Evening until Saturday late afternoon.

Now you understand why the evil put the religion of Clubbing and Sinning on Friday Nights.

It is meant to desecrate and defile The Holy-Day!
Christianity Etc › Re: An Honest Liar: The Amazing Randi - Expose Of Frauds by Dtruthspeaker: 2:30pm On Aug 13, 2021
frank317:
Ur God does not exist, but u sure know how to rant and decieve urself.
grin You came to salvage your shipwrecked brothers ? grin You are already headed to the same rocks that have drowned your brothers. grin

I can do equally say "You do not exist" but that does not mean it is True.

frank317:
U say he refuse to believe in ur evidence
And then say he does not know how to recognize evidence...
grin I did not say "he refused to believe in my evidence" I said "refused to see it, as is your power." grin

So you see, you are the one who does not function properly. grin

And now you are caught on the rocks and sinking!! grin grin
Christianity Etc › Re: An Honest Liar: The Amazing Randi - Expose Of Frauds by Dtruthspeaker:
LordReed:
LoL, keep fooling yourself. You are now an expert in chemistry. LMAO!
grin when you were in Secondary School did you not meet students who were good both in the sciences and in the arts?

Osei Yaw Ababio, P.N Okeke and Modern Biology are still parts of my Library. grin

And I was good in chemistry, I still remember the first 20 elements of the periodic table by heart, acid, base and salts, metals etc. grin grin

Damn, I had very good education!!! grin grin
Christianity Etc › Re: An Honest Liar: The Amazing Randi - Expose Of Frauds by Dtruthspeaker: 12:21pm On Aug 13, 2021
LordReed:
Stop talking nonsense, you have provided no evidence, you just like to fool yourself.
A person Like you who does not know hydrogen and oxygen can never identify and separate them in a container containing 2H20, how much more distilling evidence from argument.

You are shipwrecked on this rock.
Christianity Etc › Re: An Honest Liar: The Amazing Randi - Expose Of Frauds by Dtruthspeaker: 11:47am On Aug 13, 2021
LordReed:
Nonsense. I know how to drive is not evidence my wife knows how to drive.
If you knew what evidence is, you would have known, and in Truth, you do know that "I know how to drive", Is Always Evidence And Proof Of Ability to Drive and a further evidence and proof of a drive which has already been executed by another person, in this case, your wife BECAUSE A CAR CANNOT DRIVE ITSELF AND SOMEBODY MUST DRIVE IT,
IS THE ISSUE


LordReed:
An argument can can be put forth that I could have taught her but it is not evidence it is an argument. Professor of logic indeed. You have not presented evidence stop deceiving yourself.
Change of Post and Out of Issue. The issue is not "How did your wife know how to drive" But "Who took the car away?"

Learn to stick to Topics and stop flying off points.
Christianity Etc › Re: An Honest Liar: The Amazing Randi - Expose Of Frauds by Dtruthspeaker: 8:05am On Aug 13, 2021
HellVictorinho:
It's because it has to do with God

I may not disregard your thinking on other things
grin Admission of "Out of Pointless!" grin
Christianity Etc › Re: More On Giving Alms To The Needy by Dtruthspeaker: 8:02am On Aug 13, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
..So you prefer OP's advice to that of the world's most Wonderful Counselor of all time {Isaiah 9:6}
You have even gotten crazier in insanity.

First you did not see that the Op did raise any issue about Christ giving money

Now, you Change Post and Veer Off Topic like a lunatic driving..

Then atop all this, you directly pour lies into streets.

You have now ascended to the seat of sonmvayina as the Baale of Mad Lunatics of nairaland, plate number, Insane2dMax exactly in fulfillment of the goals of jw.
Christianity Etc › Re: Being Greedy Does The Opposite Of Giving You An Unlimited Supply! by Dtruthspeaker: 7:36am On Aug 13, 2021
AdventHero:
No one cares about the bigger picture any more. All they are concerned about is that which they want and will never be patient in the process to getting it - THEY JUST WANT IT NOW!...
It is Written,"As the partridge sitteth on eggs, and hatcheth them not; so he that getteth riches, and not by right, shall leave them in the midst of his days, and at his end shall be a fool.
Christianity Etc › Re: An Honest Liar: The Amazing Randi - Expose Of Frauds by Dtruthspeaker: 12:10am On Aug 13, 2021
LordReed:
It is not evidence because you are not the god in question...
Change of post!

The issue is, I presented myself and my ability to create as evidence, unfortunately for you, you do not have the True Knowledge of determining whether I can be an evidence or not.

So you are stuck with no valid place to go.
Christianity Etc › Re: An Honest Liar: The Amazing Randi - Expose Of Frauds by Dtruthspeaker: 11:57pm On Aug 12, 2021
HellVictorinho:
You think I don't know.


Does your thinking matterhuh??


I say NO

What you think doesn't mean anything to me
Out of point.
Christianity Etc › Re: An Honest Liar: The Amazing Randi - Expose Of Frauds by Dtruthspeaker: 11:57pm On Aug 12, 2021
HellVictorinho:
You are meant to present.

But you keep repeating like a terrorist.


The onus is on you.
Change of post!
Christianity Etc › Re: More On Giving Alms To The Needy by Dtruthspeaker: 11:49pm On Aug 12, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
Yes Jesus did good but never gave anyone a penny as in what OP is saying! smiley
I did not see where the op raised any issue about Christ giving money.

The op was simply giving advice about giving money online.
Christianity Etc › Re: An Honest Liar: The Amazing Randi - Expose Of Frauds by Dtruthspeaker: 11:44pm On Aug 12, 2021
HellVictorinho:
You just keep assuming that I don't know Bla Bla Bla...
If you knew, you would have presented long before now. So chill!
Christianity Etc › Re: An Honest Liar: The Amazing Randi - Expose Of Frauds by Dtruthspeaker: 11:40pm On Aug 12, 2021
HellVictorinho:
You are not capable of determining what I don't know or what I know.
grin i have already determined that you do not know what evidence is or can be. So chill.
Christianity Etc › Re: An Honest Liar: The Amazing Randi - Expose Of Frauds by Dtruthspeaker: 11:38pm On Aug 12, 2021
HellVictorinho:
I made use of living things in my illustration.

You are using compounds
I had wanted to say sugar and salt but I liked the obvious difficulty a non science person will experience when dealing with a subject he knows nothing about which is my point as your confession here has proven, hence my play for for specific knowledge of certain elements like Hydrogen and Oxygen, which the ordinary man like you will not know the difference, therefore it would be impossible for you to identify them and separate them, which is my point grin
Christianity Etc › Re: An Honest Liar: The Amazing Randi - Expose Of Frauds by Dtruthspeaker: 11:30pm On Aug 12, 2021
HellVictorinho:
You are not an evidence because there's nothing about you that shows there was ever a construction of you by anyone.
cheesy You do not know what evidence is nor how to identify one, so you can not validly point out whether I am not an evidence or not.
Christianity Etc › Re: An Honest Liar: The Amazing Randi - Expose Of Frauds by Dtruthspeaker: 7:17pm On Aug 12, 2021
LordReed:
That is called an argument, if A therefore B. That is not evidence.
grin This is where the scantiness of your knowledge of evidence fails you and must fail you. grin

I did not say if A or B (which is Logic, i am a Professor of Logic also).

I gave evidence and directed you that I and all like me, on the ability to create, are evidence.
Christianity Etc › Re: An Honest Liar: The Amazing Randi - Expose Of Frauds by Dtruthspeaker: 7:14pm On Aug 12, 2021
HellVictorinho:
You keep claiming that you have given the evidence even when nobody has agreed with concerning the definition of the evidence.
No one has asked me what "what evidence is" and therefore, I can reasonably presume that they know what it is, so it is not in issue.

Secondly, Agreement is not made to Agree what the Definition of Evidence is or shall be.

That has been done already which is what The Law of Evidence has Settled.
Christianity Etc › Re: An Honest Liar: The Amazing Randi - Expose Of Frauds by Dtruthspeaker: 7:07pm On Aug 12, 2021
HellVictorinho:
If you can't distinguish between me and LordReed,then you can never see or recognize me as a separate or distinguishable entity.
Yes, that is the problem Reed has! You have TO KNOW EACH ELEMENT IN THE MIX VERY WELL before you make a distinction.

It is exactly as you need to know Hydrogen and Oxygen very well before you can make a distinction between them in the Compound 2H2O.

I did not accuse you of anything, I was only pointing out your error.
Christianity Etc › Re: More On Giving Alms To The Needy by Dtruthspeaker: 7:01pm On Aug 12, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
Just give an instance as in just one example where a servant of God gave alms (Cash) to a beggar from Genesis to Revelation. Period! wink
The Law is not on Giving Cash BUT ON GIVING GOOD.

AND THEY ALL GAVE GOOD THINGS.

CHRIST SPECIFICALLY GAVE, LIFE, HEALING, JOY, FOOD, GREATLY GOOD COUNSEL AND KNOWLEDGE, GOOD EVERLASTING LIFE.

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