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Ancestos007:
Why are you a Christian?

Deeeeep down in our sub-conscious, a lot of us are christians because they are afraid of where to spend eternity.

We've figured out the fact that if we live righteously, we will go to paradise and have and have eternal rest, which is part of the reason people label christians "judgmentals"

These so called christian that serve Christ out of fear will judge anyone that commits the slightest sin, the look down on you with indignity because the believe in their own self righteousness.

If you want to serve God, serve him out of a genuine heart and sincere love.

True! But God has handled their matter and they are the ones who turn atheist after God has dealt with them!

BluntCrazeMan:
You nailed it..
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And now, nobody fears anything.
Even the Juju too.
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So, they take the oaths, and still tell blatant white-lies

While they are able to do so outside Courts, however, in court they are aware Prison is just next door and it's very easy to enter it, hence witnesses do not stray too far from the Truth.

hakeem4:
why will his soul fear hell. the soul (which does not exists) does not feel physical pains so Hell sounds funny to me

"To you" is the word and the Op has already confessed that he fears hell, which is a sign of a living soul, for it is the living who fear.

Secondly, it is pointless arguing with you on the soul because you have a right to say any nonsense eg "that it is night in Nigeria right now at 2;29pm" and no man on earth can compell you to admit you are wrong, if you refuse to so change your opinion. So I would not like to try.

And if you do not feel beyond your physical, (which is a lie for example feel that war is coming to Nigeria) then one can say you are already "dead" just running on low battery.

But as I said, you feel the war coming and that feeling is not physical, yet you felt it.

hakeem4:
why are you scared of hell?

By romance, family, politics and even here in religion section people are crying to escape hell when it came visiting or when they put themselves into it.

And that is just little hell oh, yet souls are crying and are not able to bear it, is it now the Big One, Lake of Fire whom hell fears?

It is wise for him to fear as his soul has warned him to fear!

Only a Fool will attempt to not fear doom and perdition.

virginboy1:
If HELL is real.

I can bet 90% of Nigerians won't make it. 9ja
Hypocrite general of the World.

You are right here, Like hell, lake of fire is Real and I agree 90% of Nigerians will be inmates there.

Image123:
That copy and paste? May be in prison, who knows. Sinners will always sin and get themselves in one trouble or the other.

Always! It is even Guaranteed! Either they put themselves in Trouble or Trouble comes to marry them

BluntCrazeMan:
If I understand you well, you're trying to say (in other words) that the swearing with Holy-Books is just for formalities sake, and that it is not necessarily needed in the true sense of court proceedings?

Everyone has a duty to say the Truth in and out of Court but because lazy and unintelligent people do not want to work hard to catch Liars, they were hoping that the "Fears", whether God or Juju, would make people stay in line and speak the Truth.

ChiefSosa:
[b]Firstly, we've all got the right to religion, that's basically our Sec. 38 of the constitution. But, in this case, we're being LOGICAL. Let's say you're a judge, and I was brought to you for killing several people. And now I'm facing life in prison or the death penalty. Then two people came to you: One with a bible that I'll swear with and the other with a CCTV footage of me committing the crime! You'll DEFINITELY go for the footage because that's what is LOGICAL. That's where the Evidence is. Even if you ask me to swear by the Bible/Quran and I do, you'll still ask for the CCTV footage because that's what being LOGICAL is about.
Remember: it's Logic over Emotions. I don't think any criminal will be locked up now if they all swear or swore by the Bible/Quran and the judge believed. So, to answer your question:

You must be a student taking some law classes for Oath Taking and Making is not the same as CCTV footage Evidence and they are not related in any proceeding.

ChiefSosa:
YES, the holy books are not necessary. Swearing by the Bible/Quran is not constitutional, even in Nigeria.[/b]

Some lawyers will tell you that it is in the constitution, but I think The Law Prohibiting lying Anywhere and Everywhere covers all.

ChiefSosa:
They make Affirmations. They're simply asked to swear to tell the truth in the law court. They seem to comply 'cause there's punishment for whoever lies in/to the court. People still lie even after swearing by the bible or any other religious form. So, the court will still have to use other means to confirm statements made by anyone taking the stand, with or without swearing by the bible. Some courts don't even care if you swear by the bible; they consider it illogical. Imagine how life would be if Judges believed everyone that swear or swore by the bible.

Because in Nigeria Lawyers do not Always prosecute Lying. But, I will prosecute, I do not tolerate it.

BluntCrazeMan:
Remember.....
They are not Christians, neither are they m
Muslims, nor do they have any religion for that matter.

They take an Oath of Affirmation! So they technical swear on The Law made by The Owner of this world (God) to say The Truth!

philfearon:
But, no one is compelled to do good anywhere...

Oh they are compelled and you said their words Confessing Compulsion "if not because of God...", And you have heard it so many times in your life.

And also You Saw the ones who did not say anything and how they did not wish to do their duty of giving you your right of good, but it was as if Someone "forced" them. And on that day you confessed the Truth that you saw that so so so person did not want to answer you but as you people always say so that you do not See God's Hand and Work you wrongfully say "it was as if "Something" Forced her/him to give me or to Answer".

That "Something" you people always say is Someone, God Himself! But you people love not to see God and there is nothing I can do about that.

philfearon:
People are expected to obey the law of the land for easy interactions with the rest of the society.

And Whose Laws do you think they are obeying? If you say Constitution and All you will be wrong for all man made laws had a time and day they were made eg American Constitution is only 233 years old and it is one of the oldest laws you had in mind today, and People where already Obeying The Law before they manufactured their Fraud laws and constitution, So your point falls!

philfearon:
What is good in Country A may not be good for Country B. What is good for me may not be good for you.

Under God's Laws what is Good in Country A is Good Everywhere eg Stealing, murdering, cheating, lying, there is no country in the world which says any of these things are good and acceptable in their regional

philfearon:
That notwithstanding, how did you know that the God you are talking about is the Source of your goodness?

You asked this the first time and I have answered you and you just now responded by attempting to deny what you have Seen and Experienced (as is your right, nothing I can do about that) and tried to rely on the Lie that people do good because of man made laws, to which I have shown you that people where Obeying The True Law before they decided to make their own false laws.

So repeating your question has no validity and weight.

TweezyR:
Pls nairalanders Christian. Help friend sister
Can a man who has foundational problem but an ordained man of God marry someone who has foundational issues as well. My friend is scared but wants to be careful before she says yes.

Please your candid advise is needed .

Can you travel long distances with bad tyres?

No, you will have an accident.

Mecka:
I'm sorry I don't understand. You said no and went ahead to contradict yourself

The art and science of creation Always requires putting substances together to form a thing but like your breath, can you rightfully and truly say you created it?

No you did not create it! It comes out from you. That is what "Begotten" looks like!

Mecka:
have been wanting to ask this question, was Christ created?

No He is not! He is "Gotten" from God hence the Bible said "Begotten".
Which means "Came Forth" From God.

NewSoul:
I actually stumbled on the popular post of that guy from 2016. "From pastor to atheist". It shook me. But I noticed he has been off for more than a year. Is he alive? Hope he's not dead and in hell.

I want to tell you something I noticed. You see those old thread that talks about atheism. I found out those people supporting the motion, their "last seen" is always like 3 years + and the ones trying to convert them are still active or is it me just imagining things?

I like the concept of atheism but I'm still afraid of hell because all my life I have heard things like "heaven and hell is real" "sinners shall burn in hell forever and ever"

Why did those atheist suddenly disappear? Did they die because God got angry with them?
Though I still see some from years back still active like HopefulLandlord (maybe God likes him and wants him to change)

and is it true the CEO of Nairaland is an atheist too. Because I'm sick and tired of religion, prayers, Bible reading and fasting and my life hasn't moved forward. I like the Idea of being responsible for yourself and getting things done without praying and fasting to an invisible being. I don't just want to die and wake up in hell and please I'm not looking for a way to sin. Morally without pride I'm much better than some pastors... I just don't want to die like a chicken and wake up as a roasting barbecue in hell. Help me get rid of this fear o have been brainwashed with right from birth...

All I will say is your soul is Warning you and rather than find how to do things right you are rather seeking to do a worse one.

And you have obviously noticed that you feel this way just when you are about to do a thing that you thought was a good idea at the time but you got into serious trouble.

That is your soul warning you once again that you are about to get into serious trouble.

Your stagnancy is as a result of the fact that you are not God's Child and Only very few people are able to Make His Adoption, that is the problem you have.

Solution! Become an Expert at keeping God's Laws in Truth and Wholly not selectively and partially, even in inconvenience while praying for Him to have Mercy on you.

That is the Only Way to Break out if not, joining atheism is simply transfering from Class A to Toilet Room while still attending a School that is to be demolished. It makes no difference.

OKOATA:
Guy have you been to hell before? Tell me one man on earth and with proof, if you can't proof it sorry I won't indulge you.

You have fled from the issue you raised to calling on me to prove hell and as I said if your cousin slept with your wife, you would wish him even 7 hells.

And you have seen that hell visits people even here on earth, go and make a prostitute your girlfriend or marry someone's wife or cheat on your kind wife and see whether you would not join the people in romance, family and crime section in Chorusing the Confession "I am in hell o, what do I do to get out of it"

OKOATA:
So God will burn someone in hell forever for sleeping with someone's child

When you sleep with someone's child, you also Lie and Deceive and Steal (because she belongs to another man) and you would have stolen so that you may be able to sleep with her.

Then you will kiill (because you will dump her and "kill her off" after taking her substance) and then Lie Again to cover your crimes from your wife, or parents or her family and then you will Falsely Accuse another to cover your crime and prevent yourself from being caught.

And when the heat becomes too much you may even get her and her family arrested and prosecuted over Falsehoods etc

And these are just the crimes you commit on one person alone and of course you did not sleep with one person but many, some of whom you would have made to commit the murder of Abortion.

And after this, you must graduate to married women.

So judge for yourself see all the crimes that you have committed and all the souls who will be like you when your loved cousin slept with your wife saying, "it serves you right bastard! You should be in all the number of hells in consonance with your number of crimes.

OKOATA:
I guess you worship an evil being,

Just as you never called a Court evil, so Also is God not evil for "Just is" requires Pain for Pain or Pleasure for Pleasure, exactly as you too cried for when your cousin slept with your wife.

so also will God give "Just is" to the families and souls who will complain about your wickedness and that has never ever been evil.

And of course it is only an evil man who sees A Court as evil.

OKOATA:
sorry that's not the kind of God I worship or pray to.

See nonsense, We are not begging you to worship and pray to God, the best we are doing is Warning One Day your cup of evil will be Full and Due Process will Catch you.

philfearon:
How did you know then that the God you are referring to is the source of your goodness?

Simple! When we were born into this world, what conduct and action did we meet and see was acceptable, world over, which if we comply with, we did
not get into troubles and problems?

Ans= The Doing of Good Things and Good Deed.

So Who made it so that world over, All men are compelled to openly do Good Deeds (while they sneak in hiding to do bad deeds hoping that they are not discovered)? Is there A Law Commanding and Compelling the Doing of Good Deeds?

And this is where the Bible Answers both Questions for
1) it Shows The Law of Laws Commanding the Doing of Good and

2) it disclosed The Who, Who Issued and gave forth such Law, Backing it up with World Wide Powerful Power and telling us He Who Did that, is called God!

It's as simple as that!

bottlewater1:
With what you have learnt from your religion and what is happening to you now, do you still believe in God for anything?

Please contribute

Again?

Based on what is happening, God said it shall happen and it is Done and you think it wise to go against Him?

Okay O, I no dey dia!

olayiwola4u:
Are you sure you read the article?

Didn't you read this in the post: "However, the devil is going to take some people with him. The people, who will go with him, are the perpetual sinners. They are the people who refused to change their sinful ways and turn over to God."

I only wanted to point out that you missed the word "Originally" in your headline. Remember the headline is everything you wish to say.

So since you agree that all who are married and aligned with Satan shall be cast into the Lake of Fire, then the word "Originally" would aptly and Truly convey your message with Accuracy.

OKOATA:
God bless you, let's say you make it to heaven and you ask God you like to know what happened to your brother or cousin and you found out they are in hell in pains and anguish will you like such a God?

If your cousin has slept with your wife, or he is the reason why you did not get that Job, tell me whether you would not say "serves you right"?

That is what judgement Day is about, you will see all that your cousin did which many of them you saw but you did not care because you were not the one he wounded or killed!

How you people always say these things simply because it is your cousin and you are not the recipient of his wickedness but when it is some other person like Buhari who did these same things to you, you would cry for "Just Is"

OKOATA:
God isn't hate, God is love and he's our father, how can a father burn his son or daughter in hell forever because of fornication, the Bible said before I was formed in the womb God knew me, if God knew I would go to hell for fornication why create me?

Breaking News! You are not God's Child.! God's Children can never fornicate ask Joseph and co.

Fornication is Proof of Satan's child. Satan slept with Eve and had a child with her Cain. Eve cheated on Adam and pinned Cain on him. (Just learnt this).

So God is not burning His Children but the children of His Enemies together with His Enemy.

olayiwola4u:
...,

You Missed the word "Originally".

Lake of Fire was not prepared for man because man was not Anti-God.

But now, men have joined Satan to be Anti-God, so how shall they not follow him to lake of fire since they are also doing the same things he has done and does?

bottlewater1:
With what you have learnt from your religion and what is happening to you now, do you still believe in God for anything?

Please contribute

Look at it, based on what is happening, God said it and it is Done and you think it wise to go against Him?

Okay O, I no dey dia!

Obas101:
I don't mean Northern Christian. Read the text again this time more slowly.
Have you ever been to the east before?

Do the east not have a legitimate grievance for the North and Muslims?

If my brother kills you, your family has a right to kill him if his Killing is unlawful.

But it is certainly unlawful to attack his village and cities that clearly shows that you were not after "Just is" but pursuing some other evil purpose.

jmoore:
It's ridiculous when atheist try to force ...

Have you seen how you subjected God to ridicule by making this post when no one asked you?

kingxsamz:
Last time I checked, Santa Claus is the one In charge of the spiritual realm, not your sky daddy. Santa Claus is responsible for your existence. If you say I'm wrong, show me your sky daddy.

Prado can never show Corolla where Mr. Toyoda lives or is, so stop making unreasonable demands!

HappyPagan:
If God wasn't created, then He has no purpose.... No meaning. Just empty space.

Even your neighbours purpose you do not know, (even your own purpose you do not know) is it now God's own you would know?

Do not let madness overtake your reasoning.

HappyPagan:
What is God? You who know him or claim to know Him are the most confused about Him. Something that has no defined form will take the form designed by the mind that accommodates it.. it's why there are as many variations of this God idea as you go across the globe.

That is why we are no different from mannequins and cars, we do not know and can not know All about Our Creator, Only the Parts that He Has revealed which we have Seen. Exactly as the Mannequin and car does not know all about you and can never know so.

That is what it means to have been created!

You can Never know Your Creator and like your car and mannequin, you exist to make Him Happy exactly as a Toy

HappyPagan:
Update in progress.

Come to think of it, are you not the one who is running Mad on Sundays?

Or is it the Sunday that is making you Mad?

Oh! I get it, you are confessing your Madness on Sundays or that on Sundays you go Mad!

Jahzrockballer:
Just as the title

Christianity Contains All The Laws which Every Nation needs to do that which is Good and Very Good.

But the sons of Satan and Eve can not endure Good, so like Cain and Lamech, they have to change Times and Laws and the environment so that they could live in it!

Good kills evil people, so evil people have to prevent Good from Ruling.

Jahzrockballer:
Just as the title

Christianity Contains All The Laws which Every Nation needs to do that which is Good and Very Good.

But the sons of Satan and Eve can not endure Good, so like Cain and Lamech, they have to change Times and Laws!

Image123:
i have said all that i need to say, may God be with you.

I know!

They are being stupid which is because they know "create" and foolishly wonder that since The Creator created, therefore, they think it good thinking (not knowing it is foolishness) whether the Creator, Who created "create" is Himself created!

Exactly as a mannequin must think that since it was made of plastic and iron, it's Creator too should be made up of plastic and iron! how funny their thinking!

The Bible says "He Made them male and female" and not male and females nor males and female not males and females.

But "He made them male (One) and female (One)". This is The Law of Marriage!

And you see, Son of Satan, Lamech, the son of the son of Satan Cain, was the first to break The Law!

Family of Lawbreakers exactly as their father Satan was a Lawbreaker!