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Judybash93:
It's obvious evolution is something alien to you.

https://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/0_0_0/evo_08

Check the link out. It'll enrich your knowledge about evolution.

This is not an answer you believe in "Dem say" ( Hearsay Evidence) and it is Unacceptable as Truth Exactly as I say "You no know say Buhari don Die? see link.

We can test and ask "Dem Say" to see if what "Dem say" said is True.

But since you are dem say's representative what's your own say and are you ready to prove and defend your own say?

That is the process of ascertaining Truths!

Kennyking1234:
Hope the cold is gone. Please explain...

Yeah! This what happens after the sons of Satan have successfully destroyed our ability to discern and ascertain The Truths we used to know from babyhood till adult hood deceiving men with their square roots and cube roots, perimeters and history of Law and fractions.

Truth is in Nature and has Always been in Nature after all it is Nature that is either profitable to us or adverse to us

OtemAtum:
This is more common sense. How does it apply to this thread?

Shoo! See why I say you are must be of unsound mind?

How can you have asked a question and then I answered and then it is now you remembered that it did not apply to your filthy thread?

I bounce!

ooman:
It has been found that blacks and whites have the same number of brain cells, muscle cells etc. It has been biologically confirmed that both races belong to the same species.

But what then is wrong with the black man? why do they appear to be the least evolved, less intelligent, less developed etc?

It was found that it is only among the black community that you will find more than 99% of the population to be religious.

It was then concluded that the problem with black people is that they are too gullible, they will believe just anything. They are too religious. Religion was concluded to be the problem with black people.

Yeah! This what happens after the sons of Satan have successfully destroyed our ability to discern and ascertain The Truths we used to know from babyhood till adult hood deceiving men with their square roots and cube roots, perimeters and history of Law and fractions.

Truth is in Nature and has Always been in Nature after all it is Nature that is either profitable to us or adverse to us

And this is just maths alone oh, Primary school maths for that matter.

In Social Studies I saw in the textbook that children are not clearly told that man came to meet Law on the earth but they clearly suggest that Law comes from man saying man made laws for himself when in Truth The Law made the man!

When we were young, we were clearly taught that God made The Law and that Law comes from God.

First you are taught A,B, C and 1,2,3 no problem, you got it and you understood it.

Why?

Because you saw it in Nature and Natural Living! And if you checked it, your spirit was happy, therefore you knew it was TRUE.

Then they taught addition, subtraction, multiplication and division, sentences/spelling.

And you were smiling and enjoying learning and school for you saw the Truth of these teachings in Nature and Natural Living Too. Therefore, No Problem!

Then in primary school, Suddenly they slam you with Square Root!

And problem has started. You ask for explanation but Teachers simply says just do it like this and do it like that".

Mummy and daddy can not explain it!

Meanwhile unlike the other Truths you had learnt earlier which you saw were True because you used them in Natural Living, this Square Root does not make no sense.

Every other Truth was shown you in Nature by mummy and daddy and Teacher but everyone is unable to explain how Square Root works!

Mathematicians can not explain it either,(I have asked them) they just chew their mouth raising big big grammar, which they did not do for the other settled Truths in Nature.

Neither is Square Root seen or Used in Nature, So where did it come from?

I have told you before one of the most destructive weapons in this world is True-Lies or Lies-Truths or Half-Truths or Half-Lies.

That is why you do not know Truths because your Teachers and Schooling willfully destroy your ability to Ascertain Truths having Compelled you to Accept Lies, even from an early age!

I have identified Square Roots (I know Cube Root is in front and accoming), Area (Perimeter is True in Nature but Area is a Lie) and now my son just brought home the breaking down of Whole Numbers to Fractions in Fractions and Multiplication/Division of Fractions/Addition/Subtraction of Fractions.

What a Fraud and a Deceit in Life and Living, for we do not deal with Fractions but with Whole Numbers.

Which is why we have so much injustice and cheating and stealing in the world and one nonsense Satan lawyer and advocate would come to defend the thieves using this Tricks.

Meanwhile it has no ground or support in Life!

Watch Out! Stop and Think and Measure.

If it's not in Nature, it is not True!

BeLookingIDIOT:
If you're referring to the big bang,then you should know it reached a stage of cooling and bringing of matter together.

Then it is not the big bang that put matter together that is Another Process exactly as Evaporation is not Condensation!

They are different processes

Evaporation scatters matter Condensation causes matter to be put together.

And no I did not really have big bang in mind though I thought you did. However, I am following through using The Law that A Tearing can not and can never create.

It is only by putting together a creation is forned.

So AntiGod should find Another Lie that may slip past omniscient deficient us, to sell to their devouts.

First you are taught A,B, C and 1,2,3 no problem, you got it and you understood it.

Why?

Because you saw it in Nature and Natural Living! And if you checked it, your spirit was happy, therefore you knew it was TRUE.

Then they taught addition, subtraction, multiplication and division, sentences/spelling.

And you were smiling and enjoying learning and school for you saw the Truth of these teachings in Nature and Natural Living Too. Therefore, No Problem!

Then in primary school, Suddenly they slam you with Square Root!

And problem has started. You ask for explanation but Teachers simply says just do it like this and do it like that".

Mummy and daddy can not explain it!

Meanwhile unlike the other Truths you had learnt earlier which you saw were True because you used them in Natural Living, this Square Root does not make no sense.

Every other Truth was shown you in Nature by mummy and daddy and Teacher but everyone is unable to explain how Square Root works!

Mathematicians can not explain it either,(I have asked them) they just chew their mouth raising big big grammar, which they did not do for the other settled Truths in Nature.

Neither is Square Root seen or Used in Nature, So where did it come from?

I have told you before one of the most destructive weapons in this world is True-Lies or Lies-Truths or Half-Truths or Half-Lies.

That is why you do not know Truths because your Teachers and Schooling willfully destroy your ability to Ascertain Truths having Compelled you to Accept Lies, even from an early age!

I have identified Square Roots (I know Cube Root is in front and accoming), Area (Perimeter is True in Nature but Area is a Lie) and now my son just brought home the breaking down of Whole Numbers to Fractions in Fractions and Multiplication/Division of Fractions/Addition/Subtraction of Fractions.

What a Fraud and a Deceit in Life and Living, for we do not deal with Fractions but with Whole Numbers.

Which is why we have so much injustice and cheating and stealing in the world and one nonsense Satan lawyer and advocate would come to defend the thieves using this Tricks.

Meanwhile it has no ground or support in Life!

Watch Out! Stop and Think and Measure.

If it's not in Nature, it is not True!

BeLookingIDIOT:
What exactly are you meaning by "destruction"
Chaos is merely random activity.
That's what I was trying to demonstrate here. How randomness over time can create order.

An activity is Either Positive (Construction) or Negative (Destruction).

So Positive Chaos creates and negative chaos destroys.

And everytime there is a destruction, particles that make up matter (substance) is torn apart.

And tearing apart does not create and can never create for every creation requires the putting together of matter particles and not the tearing apart of them!

That is The Law!

OtemAtum:
This isn't in your holy book, or is it? Give me a passage from your holy book to back this up

"Can a man take fire in his bosom and his clothes not be burnt?

Can one go upon hot coals and his feet not be burned? Proverbs 6:27/28

OtemAtum:
I am a part of God Almighty and my soul is a part of the soul of God. My soul is indestructible.

So is the clothes on your body and therefore you should be put in a washing machine for washing and pressed with iron.

And you are the maker of the soul to know that it is indestructible.

OtemAtum:
You couldn't have said it better. They worship and fear a particular being because of propaganda heaped up in their holy books.

A man who does not fear fire and an Okada man fighting with Dangote Truck is a Fool and loveth death!

OtemAtum:
it's the exact truth. We have souls which are spiritual and it is a more reason why we don't need worship. Worshipping belongs to the fearful.

And it was you, the soul, who made your own soul for yourself!

Surely, you are mad!

urchcoded:
exactly, infact even if daddy freeze dies in his sleep they would still mock his death. You sabi these people well well

So did we respond to Olumba Olumba, Abba Kyari, Pastor Bimbo or Pastor Ighodalo's wife when they died!

We respond to anomalies!

We are waiting for Pastor Chris, (the 2 or 3 Chrises) Tinubu, Boohuri, OBJ etc if they shall get a spectacular departure!

IMAliyu:
This conversation has diverged from the original topic into the many sub topics, and now we're discussing fallacies.

Yes, that's why I tried to answer those side topics as briefly as possible but you pursued them!

Knowing that you are like that next time I will let you know know that I would not be departing from the issue at hand.

IMAliyu:
Clarification.
"An argument containing a fallacy doesn't always mean the premises is false."

See! You have still Admitted The Truth of what I told you with the Key Word "False" which is that WHICH IS NOT TRUE!

Whether premise, body or conclusion, once there is UNTRUTH/UNTRUE or FALSEHOOD, in any statement or allegation, it becomes fallacious.

The Rules of Fallacies are The Laws Prohibiting Lies and Untruths

IMAliyu:
Which I understood as, you stating "everything that exists was created by a creator, because it's self evident."
Which is a preconception I didn't hold, something that's not self evident to me.
That's why I asked does this logic apply to the creator (God) which many view as an exception to the rule, to which your reply was roughly "it's unknowable"

The Bolded! And this is where the twisting lies, you do not have to hold my opinions for it is your Natural Right to Accept or Reject my views and i knew that.

But remember, you demanded my own Truest opinion which is what I have supplied whilst reserving the right to reject it, even if it is founded, as you have so exercised.

It is your absolute right and I never interfered with it.

IMAliyu:
My entire point was that the comparison doesn't hold water for me.
Would you accept if I described a screwdriver and a video game as being comparable, or the same because they are human creations?

At the bolded! That is one of the great difference in being a Lawyer, I do not have an opinion until an Allegation is either Proven or found to be Unproven therefore, I would ask you to make the comparison for me to see if it is so comparable.

A Lawyer deals ONLY with Proven and Established Allegations which become Facts which I call Certainties! Not make-beliefs, conjectures and daydreams.

Which is why I am very angry and hatefull of Lawyers who say that they are Christians and are here on this forum yet they elect to stay silent on these matters which are begging for Proof of Facts and Evidence to be given!

IMAliyu:
Would a creator owe no responsibility to a conscious life it's created, To treat it the same as a tool?

Thanks for the fall here!

Do you not maintain and cater for your inanimate tools eg car whose food is oil and fuel is its drink, it poos and defecates like you and you clean it up!

You give it a bath with sponge and soap and rub Vaseline (car wax) on it!

You take it to the hospital (Workshop) when sick and you protect it from harm by avoiding okadas and danfos and parking it in its own house (garage).

Are all these functions and activities you have done over your car not responsibilities?

IMAliyu:
Interesting, seems to be about what constitutes a fact or evidence in (legal) law.
I know zero about law stuff, so I'll read up on this later.

Do read up you would see that everything in this world is both fact and Law, even the word "legal".

That's what makes Lawyers so great!

IMAliyu:
For crypto/bitcoin the tech is code that runs on hardware. It requires this hardware to keep running to function and exist, therefore it's not from a void. It's monetary value is abstract,

The Bolded: That's the Word!

Free Legal Advice!

When you hear and see the word "Abstract"! RUN!! IT ALWAYS MEANS VOID!

And it's voidity always comes out when you need it the most!

IMAliyu:
Quite prideful for someone reaping the fruits of such enquiry.
Using a technology built on this process to mock the process that gave you that technology, and other modern conveniences.

Their mistake they should not have given it to me among other things I wish to say but won't say but have you stopped to wonder why very good things are Burdensome to Acquire like good and decent food, reasonable housing, reasonable wages and decent work hours, all being very hard and expensive to acquire while useless piece of filths have good but cheap variants eg phones, watches, ?

Why is there no good cheap meal, or good cheap housing or even good cheap vehicles?

But don't worry about giving me your answer!

IMAliyu:
Just a suggestion you can ignore if want, but you may want to tune down some of that ego of yours. Such as involving money and behaving as though my initial interaction with a different user, was somehow a challenge to you.

With that, Good day and Goodbye.

Forgive my tone it is not ego nor arrogance or pride rather it is Genuine Passion born out of Absolute Confidence backed with my whole soul up to the point of being tested with death.

Hence, I am saying I am Absolutely Certain of what I am saying even on the pain of death!

Therefore the tone is that of my being Deathly Sure!

BeLookingIDIOT:
How is it proven?
Monkeys randomly hitting a keyboard would compose the works of Shakespeare given enough time...it's not something impossible.
Yes randomness can create "order." Simplicity can birth complexity.

Monkey hitting a keyboard is not a tearing apart matter, but putting matter together.

A keyboard is supposed to be keyed, which is exactly what the monkey is doing, therefore he is "creating" and not destroying to create.

Destruction does not and cannot create because destruction tears matter particles apart but creation puts matter particles TOGETHER!

urchcoded:
...Well I'd say she's a christian because she normally went to church as reported...

Thank you for confirming as I told you, that "you are the one who is Judging her "a Christian" and Not Christ, The Father of Christians, Who Knows His own children and More Absolutely Certainly Who Should know His own Children!

My case is at rest!

Thanks for the respectfull dispute.

budaatum:
Please see the guiding law for the above below.

Respectfully, i did understand but you I was not certain how you would have responded if I had said that telling him that he is a church of his own does not address his problem for he is an outside church man who has just perceived that God has left the "Churches" he used to know.

The idea of him being a church will kill him rather than save him as you intended.

Sorry for the way I hit at you!

Hashabiah:
Imaginary records...? Puhlease...tell that to the little children out there.

Are this simple do you not know our conversations here are also records?

You can do last card and check up with the last word!

IntersexSherry:
All my dreams, everything i ever wanted in this life, things that made me happy, people i really loved..

You really did not know the gravity of "hereinafter I will not talk much with you"

Then all the things you described are consistent with persons living under the Curse of God.

Believe means "Live It" that is Live on the words of Christ!

Truly live The Life of Righteousness and perfect it, as Xproducer has told you and see if you would not begin to see God Move!

It is must be done Truthfully and Honestly, remember you can not deceive God!

Hashabiah:
You don't need to peddle your falsehood bros. I have confronted you with hard truths that your fabricated knowledge knows nothing of. And very soon you'll meet a brick wall.

Res ipso loquitur!

The Records Speak!

urchcoded:
I haven't deviated, I just gave u an example to show that christians die "bad deaths" too if there is any such thing as that while atheists too die in their old age too after living a nice life. That's all.

It's bad because you are the one who is Judging her "a Christian" because she died in church which you did not say for the other women like the Akwa ibom girl who was killed in the same circumstances outside the church.

However, I was aware of those facts you pleaded up there which is why I said that there are certain Noticeable Deaths which fall into one side or the other beyond the normal pertaining to certain persons of some special quality of goodness or wickedness! That's all, too!

Hashabiah:
You're just lying to yourself. Anyway continue to shy away from the reality.

See yourself rather than stay silent you rather chose to Accuse me of lying suddenly. No presentation of the fact where I lied!

Yet you wonder why evil and calamity pursues you Exactly as God hath said!

Anyway, I understand it's because you have run out of reasonable queries and you could neither reasonably rebut!

Hashabiah:
I doubt it. And I'm sure alot of people reading this thread will also agree with me. Christianity is hard...super hard. And it takes the last bit of determination to continue because you're dealing with a God that does as He pleases irrespective of how faithful you are to His commandment

So was learning 1,2,3. And A,B,C but with patience and perseverance, we are today the experts and even teachers of those same 1,2,3 and A,B,C which we once thought was very very hard!

So it is with Righteousness. If you really wanted it, you will accomplish it!

Hashabiah:
You're still in denial. So let me pressure you some more hard facts : in the story of Job, it was recorded that he was a faithful man who feared God and shunned evil, yet God destroyed all that he had by allowing Satan have his way. Now does this not prove my point...?

In the Story of Job we were told that God was very Pleased with Job such that He wagered him Against the-evil himself!

The-evil Lost and it and it was well with job at the end as it was in the beginning, so your arrow did not fly!

Hashabiah:
You need to stop talking about what you don't understand. Reading the Bible and beliveing is quite different from the realities that meet a believer

I have clearly told you that I am walking in those same shoes and therefore I know what I am saying!

studentofTruth:
I told you earlier how they reason!

In other words you can not refute meanwhile bad and faulty reasonings never ever stand.

So it is you who has unresolved problems, hence this complaints and not us!

Hashabiah:
You're still in denial...? Okay look at the recent case of Enoch Adeboye. Can you say that God was not faithful since it is written in Psalms 91 "...that with long life will I satisfy him and show him my salvation "?

Brother, answer this or is Adeboye not a true servant of God?

Did I not tell you that Christ knows His Own? Am I the Christ that I should know who belongs to me?

Further, these are the days of the fulfillment of the Prophecies, the days of death; Saints shall be slain and death shall be plenty but Death is not adverse and a Calamity to the Righteous!

That is a certainty!

Hashabiah:
That's a lie. Calamity befalls even those who serve God. John the Baptist was beheaded and God look upon it and did nothing . Another case was that of the prophet Isaiah when he killed for prophesying in the name of the Lord.

P. S : Don't defend what you know nothing about

They do not! I am a Direct Witness of this fact.

No evil thing comes near the dwelling of the righteous, No Evil thing at all.

Only Blessings and More Blessings!

The Prophets and saints killed were set to be killed and it was not adverse to them

Dying and death is not adverse to the righteous so it is not a calamity!

livingchrist:
The devil is powerful he controls the unsaved world but certainly not more powerful than the saved people.

Ephesians 2:2
Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:

The truth is satan rules the world by controlling men.

Ephesians 6:12
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

This verse is very clear, who are christians wrestling with, fellow humans or demons who rules over the affairs of men?

The devil is called the prince of this world,

The prince that controls the disobedient people.

John 14:30
Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me.

Ephesians 2:2
Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:

Why did Jesus say his kingdom is not of this world?

John 18:36
Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.

Every kingdom has a kingdom, if Jesus kingdom is not of this world, it means this world is not Jesus kingdom, than whose kingdom is it?

Of course the devil.

That is why there is so much evil, pain, sin, problem that is because satan rules this present world.
This present world is called evil, because evil rules this world.

Galatians 1:4
Who gave himself for our sins, that he might deliver us from this present evil world, according to the will of God and our Father:

Seconded

Hashabiah:
... Let me ask you a question: why is it that so many Christians lack, yet the bible expressly says that seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness, and all these things shall be added unto you?

Simple!

Because they are not Christians!

They can deceive you but None can deceive Christ, or would He not know His Own?

urchcoded:
well, christian virgins are raped to death right inside the church, so much of a good death considering the fact that she obviously was calling out for God to save her and he silently whispers to her, baby girl take these deeks, if you can't withstand them, die and come and meet me in heaven because I said so. Very good death.

U guys have really lost touch of reality.

Now you have departed from the issue but I understand, you must put in a last offence, which I am happy to be killed for!

IMAliyu:
Fallacy (an argument based on faulty reasoning.)

I have a Degree in Philosophy also and I am An Authority on Fallacies!

The Law of Fallacy is to Safe Guard Truths and Whole Truths. Half-Truths and Partial Truths are Also Prohib6i do not qualify to be Accepted as Truths.

Examine all the types of fallacies identified, which ONE of them Condemns a Whole Truth? (I will give you N5k if you find ONE!

IMAliyu:
What fautly reasoning am I talking about here?
It's the "what I'm saying is the true" why is it true? "Because it's the truth" why is it the truth? "because it's true".
It's called circular reasoning.

Check your statement up there, DID YOU EVER CONTESTEDTHAT WHAT I SAID IS NOT TRUE OR DID YOU DEMAND
"WHY IS IT TRUE," at all?

IMAliyu:
You give no sufficient reason as to why it's true, only repeating that it's true.
"it's not a fallacy because it's true"

You never asked!

IMAliyu:
And the thing I was calling you out on was your equivocation of People with cars and phones (tools), because as you believe humans were created, and tools are creations, therefore both are the same.
It's like saying plants are a form of life, and cats are a form of life, therefore both cats and plants are the same. Ignoring the obvious glaring differences.

The highlighted is wrong and Truly fallacious and I never made such a connection.

I have clearly premised and presented that "we are creations" and the only reasonable evidence that I could provide In proof of this fact and premise is to point out other known items that are also known to have been most certainly created, so that you can see by comparing if both are the same, Exactly as we have to compare if Honda Accord and Honda CrossTour are the same.

IMAliyu:
Something my Prof said, "Just because someone is unable to make enquiries about your work, doesn't always mean it's correct.

He's wrong, for when you enter an office or bar and no one complains, it clearly means you are permitted to enter therein. That's why Law is the greatest Profession, For All these things are Covered by Law.

"In the Absence of An Objection, Truth is Seen and Established" exactly as you see in meetings and gatherings.

IMAliyu:
So by Independence, you mean that unlike a tool, no one is operating a man.

See, I hear a question of clarification here but you chose to carry on as if this was my True Meaning (Fraud) which I gave, whereas I gave no such meaning!

IMAliyu:
Therefore a tool and a person are nothing alike as you keep asserting.
Also if man is not really independent then accountability is waste of time.

See, what I complained about? Running with what is not mine yet you have ascribed it to me! (Fraud)!

Meanwhile, you got my Truest Meaning but because you wiggle yourself out of the fix you are in, you are feigning misinterpretation and changed my meaning into some other meaning I did not give. (Fraud)

IMAliyu:
Accountability for ones actions. This is also something that would make your tool and man comparison invalid...

How can you join them when I have separated them already on this fact already? (Fraud)

Did I not clearly exclude this fact?

Cheating will not get you out of this box!

IMAliyu:
And how is this will communicated, where do I go to find it?

Not the topic of discussion

IMAliyu:
And I also said "I appreciate a more clinical and organised manner of unconvering things of importance"


If not everyone will just invent there own standard/definition for what counts as truth and what constitutes as evidence for them.

As undertaking by other persons other than you. I love to run my own trials so that I know that which is True First Hand!

And The Law of Evidence is the Highest Authority on what constitutes Evidence in the whole world and there is No Second!

You should study The Law of Evidence!

IMAliyu:
"The creator is unknownable" but somehow you know the reason for why he/it creates.

Did he communicate this to you?

Am I not a creator myself? Shall a driver not know another driver and shall a doctor not know a fellow doctor?

I see you are running out of reasonability!

IMAliyu:
Since you don't, being humble and a simple I don't know is more than sufficient.

I have already answered

IMAliyu:
When speaking of inventions, I'd agree with you. We created the tools we use from things around us. And also true we've not witnessed anything spontaneously create itself, neither have we witnessed a creator(MAN or deity) create something from a void either

At the Bold! Wrong Again. Man has done that "Cryptocurrency, Bitcoin, Shares, Ponzi Schemes, are all Voids which became real things that people saw to be real!

IMAliyu:
...You are free to fill in the gaps with a creator, however people that do that seem to assume they have complete knowledge.

Which is why we mock on and ridicule while they dissipate serious time and energy doing a foolish thing that has no end. Exactly as using a fork to empty the sea!

And funny enough you are not doing that foolish work oh, but you are ready to praise sing the fool who did that.

Anyway, it's your right but I also have a right to mock a foolish enterprise, when my attention is drawn to it!

IMAliyu:
Anyway I'll entertain only one more reply before I call it a day.

I think we are actually done for you have not said anything new save for some Frauds and misrepresentations

So Aluta Continua for you, but thanks for being substantially reasonable and truthly as you possibly could!