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LordReed:
People who already believe in god stating that their god this and that without evidencing the god are not proof of said god or what his purported actions are. Someone can equally claim that FSM made all laws, does that equal evidence or proof? No it does not so neither do these.

You have departed from the issue for we are not talking about Supplying Evidence in Proof of God, but about "Records Outside and Beyond the Bible" which Corroborate Truths of the Contents of the Bible on Morality/Law, which I have just satisfied.

LordReed:
Human beings figured out how to do stuff therefore because god created them, he created the thing they figured out how to do? .

Haven't you heard "He Who owns the farm owns the harvest?"

So of course it goes without saying!

LordReed:
Like I said you are merely attributing things to your favourite mythological divine being, you have presented nothing closely resembling proof of your assertions.

Now You Have Changed it from "favourite book of mythology" to "favourite mythological divine being" Hence Change of Post!

So, Truly, No Road for you to go on!

IamPlato:
They don't take their lives, they give it away

Haha! And there is the sin! The man in the Parable of the Talent Returned the Talent and what happened to him?

Weeping and gnashing of teeth!

IamPlato:
Suicide is basically taking your own life. A quick question would be, will one go to hell for suicide?

In as much as we try to speak against it and try to stop it, have we tried to understand it? Why does it happen? Why does depression have a close relationship with suicide?

Trust me, a man can not go to hell for suicide, if there is one thing we all fail to understand, it is the way the mind of God works.

God’s justice is not necessarily defined by brutality or jungle justice as we like to picture it, every man is a part of God which makes it easier for God to understand every inch of pain and torment we go through.

Trust me, Telling a suicidal person that he will go to hell doesn't move them...

I am certain that you do not know that Selfcide is A Clear Proof of being Rejected and Cursed by God for being evil.

For it is The Law, EVIL ONLY PURSUES AND TORMENTS SINNERS ALONE Exactly as happened to Judas Iscariot, Abimelech son of Jerub'baal etc.

While Blessings and Long Life is Always in the house of the Righteous.

1Sharon:
Don't deflect.

I asked about verse 22-30 not verse 1.

A woman was gang raped and chopped up, explain what is moral and good about that??

I deflected not but answered the Whole Story and Neither is it Right for you to Cut Down the Whole Story to a part thereof, that makes your representation and thinking, A Lie and a Falsehood.

When you break The Law, You Do Evil.

And when you Do Evil, Evil comes to get you! Which is What Moral warns you about "Do Not evil, for Evil Pursueth after the Evil Doers"!

Nothing Moral to inquire Only Judgement Levied Upon Law Breakers.

Or is it moral for law breakers to go Unpunished?
I Say No, they must be punished.

The Long Arm of The Law went after them and caught them.

But your reaction is understandable for first you are a woman and secondly, you do what she did, so you are just simply shouting that is this the kind of Judgement God levies upon Whores, their patrons and customers and Specially upon Lawyers.

LordReed:
There is no record of that except what your fevered imagination cooked up based on your book of mythology.

Thanks for taking it well!

Here are a Few!

1) All Human Rights Books and for this Purposes, Preliminary Studies in Human Rights Law by O. W Igwe Take Notice of
American Congress of July 4, 1776, Declaration of Independence

"We hold THESE TRUTHS TO BE SELF-EVIDENT, that all men are created equal, that THEY ARE ENDOWED BY THEIR CREATOR with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness... in Clear Proof and Declaration of The Truth that it is He Whom we Call God Who Created us and Set in Us the Rights we have as men and not man! Page 24.

2) WHAT ARE HUMAN RIGHTS? Cranston M (1973)

"Human Right is A twentieth century name for what has been traditionally known as Natural Rights" in Proof that Nature Dictated Set Rights not man page 1.

3) CRIMINOLOGY: Stephen Jones (Butterworths,1998)

"INDIVIDUALS Agree to join together and form a Society" . Page 1

in Proof of God creating Individuals First as shown in the Bible before Societies were and are formed and can be formed.

4) Logic and Philosophy by Prince will I. Alozie credited to Don John Scotus (1266-1308) at Page 190.

"God willfully created the universe and willfully gave or commanded moral rule."

5) Nichomechian Ethics by Aristotle,

"Natural Justice is that which everywhere, has the same force and does not exist by the people thinking this or that.."

6) All Philosophy Books Prove that Philosophers Studied what was created whether Ionians or Milesians or Thales and Prove that they came to meet things already on ground eg the earth, the seas, the skies, man, animals, Law!

1Sharon:
Please explain what is so good and moral about
Judges 19:22-30

First there are many things in this case but The Good and Moral Law was Did not Cause it, rather, it was Defied and Broken from the Beginning.

And the beginning of This Transaction started from Judges Chapter 19:1 not from verse 22 as you presented.

In 19:1, we see A Lawyer and A Judge (For A Levite is both A Lawyer and A Judge) Breaking The Law, for The Law had Already Prohibited "Whoring" (Verse 2) see. Leviticus 21:7 and 14.

A Levite is Holy unto God and He is Not Allowed to Break The Law, "Woe unto ye Lawyers"!

Thus, Judges 19 is about the Woe which shall fall upon Lawyers and Judges and their Accomplices, when they Break The Law!

Therefore, this Story is About God Upholding His Law and Giving Judgement, Morality and Good is not attacked.

LordReed:
There is no record of that except what your fevered imagination cooked up based on your book of mythology.

2 Times have I Declared it and now 3 Times have I said these Truths are Recorded in Law Books, Sociology Books, Philosophy Books, History Books,

But I understand you, (I am not attempting to insult you but I pay attention to souls and I know what type of soul you are, which is why you are the way you are, and yes I remember you hate boxes, but hate the box all you want, you are still in a box and going to always be in One, that is what it means to have never created yourself but be a creation and therefore, what I am describing). you Already know that your Sins and Offences have reached Unforgivable Proportions and Heights and therefore you have been Marked for Destruction, Exactly as Written, Thus, it is Finished For You and Nothing like Eternal Life matters for you for as Christ Says "You have No Part in it". John 14:30.

Therefore, Truth Does not Matter to you, but Truth is Only For those who have A Chance of Acquiring Eternal Life and Not for those who have Already been Condemned to "death", as their Soul has reported to them (John 3:18-21)

So it's Finished for you but it does not have to be so for other souls!

You of your own will chose and elected to commit suicide with your own soul, it is Wrong and Wicked and Satanic for you to Murder other souls thereby further committing "Murder-Suicide" as Suicide Murderers aka Suicide Bombers!

LordReed:
You didn't offer a reasonable counter in the first place, only a fevered imagination based on your favourite book of mythology. I can claim any old imaginary being did whatever, there's no way to substantiate any such claim.

I did answer as the records up Show but rather than rebut, you fell silent and Made Allegations

Re: 4 Reasons Why I Don’t Take Christians Seriously. : 7:39am
"Dtruthspeaker:
Yes, they Wrote Down their Laws before most nations were formed as reported, But They Are Not The Source, Creators Or Originators Of Moality (Law) for No Man made them, which is what we are saying.

The Creator Whom we call God, made Law (Morality) and The Law, made the man.

Therefore, Law (Morality) was already established on the earth even before man or the Sumerians or the Egyptians came to be. (My Counter!)

Then you failed to rebut but rather Alleged and attempted fleeing by saying

LordReed:
You guess so from your favourite book of mythology. Got it.

Making An Allegations is Never a Rebuttal!

Besides I have further countered that that these Truths are Also Contained in Law Books, Sociology Books, History Books, Philosophy Books and you still want to falsely represent that I am standing on on One Book, when I am Clearly Standing on 4 Other Books Separate and Distinct from the Bible, which Corroborate The Truth as Proffessed and Contained in the Bible and you have still not rebutted rather you are throwing tantrums that "your favourite book of mythology." therefore repetitions because you have reached a Wall you can not go through nor Break!

There is no shame in staying silent when you can not rebut.

FatherOfJesus:
Why do you waste a lot of efforts arguing with The Dtruthspeaker?
That dude reasons like he’s a primary 2 pupil

And yet none of you can Validly Answer this primary 2 pupil!, therefore you are all still sucking breast on your mamas lap, being carried around like a bag and not able to Accomplish Anything except to eat, piss, sheet and cry for everything and about everything!

So I am your elder brother in primary 2!

Pastorjohn2:
Shut up your sinful mouth

Truth is Always Always Unpleasant to He that Doeth the Wrong!

petra1:
There may few bad eggs as in every institution. 99 % of pastors are volunteers who have their jobs . They rather use their monies to attend to church and brethren needs. Take Redeemed for example. Most of the pastors a Lay volunteers. And those who are full time pastors how much is their salary.

Few bad? No, sir, they are not few bad, they are almost all bad.

I am certain you have never heard this Principle of Law, "A thing is Only Good if Every Single Element of it is Good. It is bad if One Element of it is bad"!

And this is based on the Principle of Law found in Ecclesiastics 10:1

"Dead flies cause the ointment of the apothecary to send forth a stinking savour: so doth a little folly him that is in reputation for wisdom and honour.

Same as the Principle of "You Break One Commandment, You Break All"!

LordReed:
You guess so from your favourite book of mythology. Got it.

Not a guess Rather, it is ALSO SEEN and Proven, which is why you are not able to Offer any Reasonable Counter, for there is None!

And not Just the Bible alone, But The Law (Morality) Books, Philosophy Books, History Books, Sociology books Also Absolutely Show and Prove The Truth of this Fact.

uchkochi:
Good morning, Do you know that betrayal is what people do against you. Bitterness is what you do against yourself. Bitterness is worse than betrayal. Please forgive.

Men are wicked thus they do wickedness one to another and even do wickedness unto themselves.

Yes, that's how wickedness is, it makes people foolish such that after they have killed others, they shall also kill themselves too.

Win - Win for Satan, the-evil!

Preciousgirl:
Luke 10:22

All things have been delivered to Me by My Father, and no one knows who the Son is except the Father, and who the Father is except the Son, and the one to whom the Son wills to reveal Him. ”

Until Jesus reveals the Father to you, you can't know Him.

This your arrogance and pride about knowing the Father, who revealed HIM to you?

Is it not Written, "No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me Draw him:" John 6:44?

And is it not further written "he that hath seen Me hath seen the Father"? John 14:9

Arrogance and Pride is great foolishness and great offence to God and such as have these things are not sons of God and therefore, Do not Know God.

For every son of God is very much aware that God Hates, Arrogance and Pride.

LordReed:
The Sumerians and Egyptians had their laws written down well before you favourite book of mythologies was.

Yes, they Wrote Down their Laws before most nations were formed as reported, But They Are Not The Source, Creators Or Originators Of Moality (Law) for No Man made them, which is what we are saying.

The Creator Whom we call God, made Law (Morality) and The Law, made the man.

Therefore, Law (Morality) was already established on the earth even before man or the Sumerians or the Egyptians came to be.

FreeSpirited:
But when young girls like you fvvck married men, the preeq no carry curse da time abi

Women dey under Curse Already, so to add Curse on top their Curse be like tanker wey dey put water for ocean.

Married man na blessing to dem while dem go give am Curse!

Lessonteacher:
I have been thinking about that of recent

Man did not create existence so it is impossible for him to decide the end of it when the beginning of it, he did not also know either.

Femzaremz:
U forget that there must be an element of divinity or spirituality involved before a concept can be termed religion! You cant just ascribe religion to everyday happenings or mundane actions!

No, sir, spirituality and divinity is just A Special and Notable Practice which is above other Regular and Usual Practices, but, it is Still A Practice which can be undertaken or disposed with exactly as some people are very dedicated to work but some others abhor work!

LordReed:
People were practicing various forms of morality way before even 1 book of your bible was written. Stop kidding yourself that Christianity is the source of all morality, that's pure bunkum.

God is The Source of All That is Right and Good (Morality) as Evidenced and Irrefutably Proven by His Laws and Commandments.

No Other Group or Society in the World had a collection of Laws as Good and Right and Perfect and Balanced as The Law of God!

No, not one, anywhere!

So, yes people were practicing morality before the Bible as Evidenced by Abel, Seth, Enoch Abimelech etc, but the highest and acceptable standard of conduct and morality comes From God and His Laws!

petra1:
Pastors are men of sacrifice for the congregation. It is ademanding responsibility.

I know that there would be 1 or 2 Righteous Pastors but they are largely unknown, unrecognised, rejected, despised and hated thus, they will be considered non-existent, therefore, you are defending a group of people who have been caught on camera and are as guilty as politicians!

Femzaremz:
whats this? How are those things u mentioned above religion ehn?!

Your Google gives you 3.Meanings and 1 of them Covers the other meanings

religion
/rɪˈlɪdʒ(ə)n/
noun
1) the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods.

2) a particular system of faith and worship.
plural noun: religions

3 A PURSUIT OR INTEREST FOLLOWED WITH GREAT DEVOTION.!

Meaning 1 and 2 are inside and under Meaning 3! Thus, social media use is a Religion Also!

Kobojunkie:
You registered a brand new moniker about 30 minutes ago so you could post this?

He does not know that you can change clothes but it will always be the same evil spirit, called FOJ, aka HiddenDude now the knownunknown!

what a BIG FOOL!

KnownUnknown:
Miracles are staged performances or outright lies. I don’t care what Jesus said, my point is that the only difference between these pastors’ actions and Jesus’ alleged actions are that the latter’s are recorded in the Bible. Viewed without the bias of religious beliefs, Jesus was a scammer.

So.Did China stage their own Sumsong, Panonic, Guccci, Tomy Hilfinger etc?

Everyone can obtain a Degree Certificate but those who are Truly Qualified Are Known and can be Ascertained!

Femzaremz:
mehn! Attitude like these shows that religion is truly a big problem!if this idiot can say something like this,it means religion needs to be eradicated as soon as possible!

Then you would need to eradicate yourself for you are the source of religion, or did you forget that binging, smoking, sexing, working, are religions too?

FatherOfJesus:
Because you don’t know what the definition of evidence is. Whatever you said is your opinion and cannot be tested under any standardize method

shall a pencil test you or shall your phone put you in a lab?

Creations can not Test their Creators, that's the Proof and Evidence we have given you and you could test it, TEST OF WHICH IS EVEN VERY EASY FOR ANY TO DO IN ANY PLACE OR AT ANY TIME, BUT THE RESULT IS THE SAME AND IRREFUTABLE!

FatherOfJesus:
Finally there’s no reason to become a Christian, it’s a scam just like any other religion

There's 1 Reason, You Really Do Not Want To Live in Eternal Pain and Suffering at the Full Discretion of Your Creator like a phone kept alive on a gas cooker in a non stick pan, melting forever but never and Cursed to live in that Condition.

And finally, all the others things you said directing them to Christians missed their mark, for a Christian is none of those things, rather you are describing those who are Truly your brothers but they are applying for Christianship, but they have not been approved yet!

amrichy:
@ the bolded:
Do you really believe that or you just want to defend "your" religion?

As an interferance to her answer and your query here, the correct answer is, there was a Time when the Prayers of the True Children of God altered the course of this nation eg, Pre-1999 military dictators, but ALL THAT IS GONE FOR, NOW.

True Christians are not praying for this country, For We Know and understand What is happening, why it is happening and why these things Must Happen!

So, No we do not pray for this country, We Are rather Praying that The Lord God of heaven and earth should come Soon and Speedily to Give Judgements and to carry out His Plan!

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Your brothers have been playing Nostradamus and Prophets and they were all Turned out WRONG, Because they have no eyes to see and did not take heed The Word of The Lord!

"The Flesh Profiteth Nothing"

ThePlainTruth:
I have noticed that it is mainly people in poor countries that are very optimistic that Jesus is coming soon and now is over 2000 years.

Understandable! It is the poor who need 'Just is"

XXXXTENTACION:
so am putting this question up does the bible encourage genocide

No, it does not!

The Bible is Simply Warning you stupid creations, what Judgements shall befall you, when you fail to do your Creator's will!

Jittery! When they were attacking us folks did they complain,.

So Boko Haram would be fair to attack them too.

Krismas:
Most food we eat is self extermination slowly. Fast-food, soda, fried food, greasy food. lack of balance diet, lack of adequate hydration, late eating, overeating, etc. Yet u do not feel u are committing sin.

"Thou shalt not kill even thine ownself"!