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chrisxxx:
He started with some preambles and made sure he cornered me.
He asked, David killed Goliath, right?
I said yes.
He said the tunic was too heavy for David to wear wasn't it?
I said yes.
Daddy did you know that Goliath would also use a giant sword?
I was just answering yes to free myself.
I didn't know the small boy of six was up to something.
And the bombshell!
Daddy if David çould not wear the tunic because it was too heavy for him, where did he get the strength to use Goliaths sword to cut off his head?
Can someone help out with this question?

The word is "too heavy"!

Too heavy for what? For elongated fighting which is always a possibility, so it is not reasonable for David to lose by carrying on a heavy material to use for combat.

But to accomplish the figurative speech "fell by his own sword" Goliath's sword is not harmful to David but to Goliath. Simple.

See how your 6 year old is going to destroy your soul because of you are a false Christian!

Shame on you that you did not even know that Antichrist and Satanist put that thought in your child at school or in your environment.

Rather than you take the child to The Lord, it is the child who is taking you to Satan! Yet you would readily say "I a Christian", Shame fall on you!

Lord, Please Come Today and let all these evil souls be flushed away!

ThePlainTruth:
Jesus had the power to call down more than twelve legions of angels and instead Jesus decided not to, but to leave His fellow Jews to suffer under the Romans.

It is you who is wicked because your soul is evil, therefore, you think wickedness.

If you had good eyes you would have seen that this is as a Result of Moses Cursing them for their wicked disobedience to God's Laws.

So they suffer for their own wickedness and their own disobedience and it is not Good that they should be helped after all the Curse also Provided that when they return to God, enemies shall not over run them.

And they did not return to God!

See how Satan does not want to die alone?

He is calling on you to join him to be an enemy of The Lord of Hosts!

Common human enemy you no want is now enmity with God you wan carry?

As for me and my house
We will serve the Lord (oh yes)
As for me and my house
We will serve the Lord
We have counted the cost
We have made the choice
We will follow our God
And obey His voice
From this day
For the rest of our lives
We will serve the Lord: By Ron Kenoly!

FatherOfJesus:
Because an immeasurable solution was created

Because creations do not ask questions beyond their place!

FatherOfJesus:
The immeasurable solution s continues

Because creations do not Test their Creators! If you do not Accept the Available Evidence present, then it is unreasonable to request unavailable Evidence!

FatherOfJesus:
if religion is not a scam, how come none of them have testable evidence for their Gods?

Because it is not Right nor Possible for creations to Test their Creator exactly as your phone, car or shoe can not subject you to any Test!

FatherOfJesus:
You forgot to include pastorpreneurs.

I was certain you have put those Thieves in Suits and Cloaks claiming to represent God in their place!

FatherOfJesus:
1. Study the populace.
2. Create an imaginary problem.
3. Proffer an “immeasurable solution” at a price.
4. Blame the customers when it doesn’t work.

That's the religion of you evil people so that you can steal from people as MMM, MBA, Yahoo Yahoo, Fake Bank Alert, Banks, Insurance, Governors, President etc

Right now you are too scheming on how to steal another man's property, whether money or wife or property.

ThePlainTruth:
So why are those challenging my post so hell bent on quoting irrelevant verses to back up their own false claims that Jesus is coming back to be King in this world? .

BassReeves are you seeing this?

Do we say that He is Coming to Be King of this mad and evil world and its evil people which should be destroyed and He said He shall so destroy it? Or,

Do we not say that He is Coming Back to Judge All and To Permanently Dispose All Wicked and Evil souls, who have done evil, from His Sight?

If you did not get the memo it is because you are not one of us, for we already knew that He was King even before He Came to the earth as Man and He Remained Always The King after departing it.

So Kingship is not our problem at all!

ThePlainTruth:
...Jesus never promised the crowd and the people He preached to that He was going to come back for them.

Neither did Jesus tell the Crowd the meaning and interpretation of the Parables, Nor did He Tell the crowd to wait in Jerusalem for the "promise of the Father, which, saith He, ye have heard of me!"

Did He tell the Crowd too about the promise of the Father?

BassReeves are you seeing this! Is this man's slice and dice good?

Can Truth be one when it is sliced and diced?

shadeyinka:
I think it is you who hear or misinterpret what the gospel of grace is.

This is not right. I clearly showed you how I arrived at my conclusion but you have put it aside and ignored it while you rather chose to attack me personally. Alright!

ThePlainTruth:
Are the crowd that saw Jesus and believed all His Miracles not His disciples too? So why did Jesus not tell the crowd He was coming back soon to take them or be their King.

How come Christians today who never saw Jesus believed they are more of His disciples than the crowd that followed Him and Christains today know that Jesus is coming back soon when Jesus never told His disciples and the crowd He was coming back soon to be their King?

John tells you that His Crowd stopped following Him and reduced to the 12 He Chose!

ThePlainTruth:
Where did Jesus tell the crowd He preached to that He was coming back to take them or be their King.

I noticed you did not answer my question but directly proceeded to ask yours thereby avoiding mine! Ok.

Like you rightly observed, He did not tell the crowd these things, for they did not care to know neither did they ask Him.

But He Clearly Told His People, the Disciples!

And we want to be His Disciples of this day and thus we are privy to have heard all that He Told them.

So why I are we telling you all that He is Coming?

Because this time, He Does not Come Quietly and Peacefully as He did before, but He Comes in Great Anger and Vexation, upon all who did not hear His Plea for repentance from offences.

We could have kept it privately but the disciples did not keep it privately, hence it has reached us and we in turn do not keep it to ourselves because know what the disciples knew, that it would be good in the eye of God if people heard it also and perhaps, they change from doing bad things and wicked things!

shadeyinka:
You forgot to look at the TENSE which is PAST TENSE. The nature of sin was our nature before Christ paid the price for our sins. It is the power of Christ that changed us from being a sinner into a righteous personality.

Which is why I merely advanced a probe and no more upon any who sins yet claims to be "Born Again"

And as you said, which is my stand too!

shadeyinka:
A bad Tree CANNOT produce good Fruit neither can a good Tree CANNOT produce bad Fruit. This is the word of Christ. It simply means that anyone who is TRULY Born Again MUST produce good Character/Works. If you see the contrary, such is NEVER born again

So this is settled!

shadeyinka:
Some children live in fear of their parent disowning them because they do not know the power of love just like some Christian live their lives in fear of Gods rejection because they know not the power of God's Love.

The human parents are known to be Wicked so it is reasonable and understand for their little children to be afraid.

But God is the Best Parent any child will want to have and I am a witness to that for I had wicked parents but God took me up and I have been smiling ever since.

shadeyinka:
Finally,
If the true Gospel of Grace is NOT an indulgence to Sinning BUT a life of Righteousness lived through honour and appreciation of the costly Gift of God in Christ for our salvation, why should we STOP Preaching it?

Because of the receivers and hearers who are great sinners hearing and interpreting the wrong things by your teaching and thereafter going out to teach others, these wrong things!

They need to hear about Righteousness or Rightness first, for it is the Foundation upon which Grace is laid as my learned colleague Truespeak had earlier said "Equity (Grace) Follows The Law"!

And Righteousnes/Rightness is The Law!

Dayvidblue:
You are confused, according to your holy book all sinners will go to hell, irrespective of how little or how great the offence..

Because sinners will sin and must sin non-stop! And it is a pieces of toilet papers, pampers and pads which make a refuse dump

ThePlainTruth:
That's religion for you, plainliers will always pick the one they can use to deceive others who are gullible.
Ask yourself who Jesus was talking to in John in Chapter 14 verses 2 and 28.? It was His disciples and not the crowd He gave the good news to and Jesus did not tell His apostles they will be waiting for over 2000 years for Him to come and take them to the place He is going to prepare for them.

God did not promise a Messiah that will come back, The Messiah God promised will bring peace to the world once and for all.

So do you say that it is recorded that Christ came back to take them where He is, as He said?

Did He not leave them behind on earth?

LordReed:
Because 2 people cannot give enough genetic diversity. The common ancestor was not a single pair but several groups of them, I think at least 18 females and 18 males have been identified as the mitochondrial Eve and mitochondrial Adam respectively. This makes way more sense than a fairytale about a talking snake.

Abokis physically prove you wrong, they create a society with only a gate man and his wife as historians have recorded.

One man and one woman is all it takes to have a country!

oluwaahmed:
Biological in the sense that man shares a DNA to the ape? Archaeological that bones of man living a million years ago were discovered. The question is this now, if man evolved in time from monkey to man, how come not all species of apes followed man to evolve? Are you also saying that in another million years man would have mutated/evolved into a different being? or the remaining apes would have evolved to join man?

Do you now see that he has abandoned apes and gone to "other living creatures"?

Do those other living creatures not have names so that we can check if we can reasonably come from them?

Simeonjoe1:
Hell is just a fragments of your imagination used by your pastors to instill fear in the flock. It's not real

Yet you all say "living with my wife, mother, father, etc is hell" or "working in a bank is hell"

That's just the baby hell sent to torment foolish disobedient souls which you have all seen, experienced and confessed, the papa-hell waits to receive you after death!

GeneralDae:
Still not making sense. So after counting and multiplying all these, how does the total equate to eternity? Even if you multiply them all by 100 or a 1000, would it give you infinity?

That is just the amount of One Adultery, committed at One Single Instance, in One Occassion.

Try counting a day's worth of adultery using your measurement, see if your computer can compute.

And that is just for Adultery Alone, the same thing happens in the case of stealing, Lying etc.

But anyway after all this counting and calculation, The Creator and King has Already Decided that When He has been made Angry enough by us His creation, he shall toss us to one Place of Pain and Torment to live there Forever and Ever!

And He is the Most High Justice of SUPREME Supreme Court, so it is Finished!

GeneralDae:
You write as though you know what eternity is or you can truly imagine it

Yes i do! It is as Simple as A Camry, Corolla or Lexus can never die but live eternally unless and until Mr Toyoda says "I wish them de-existed"

And the Creator of man has said He would not be De-existing any man but they shall live in either the House of eternal pain, suffering and torment or in the House of Eternal Joy, Happiness, Peace and Pleasure!

ThePlainTruth:
So why are Christians not interested in the Messiah that is still to come whom God has promised?

John 6:15 New King James Version
Therefore when Jesus perceived that they were about to come and take Him by force to make Him king, He departed again to the mountain by Himself alone.

John 18:36 New King James Version
Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, My servants would fight, so that I should not be delivered to the Jews; but now My kingdom is not from here.”

You are a proper example of seeing through log of wood in your eye.

The same John in Chapter 14 verses 2 and 28, The Lord Jesus clearly said He Would be back.

"I go to prepare a place for you.

3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I Will Come Again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.

Verse 28
"ye have heard how I said unto you, I GO AWAY, AND COME AGAIN UNTO YOU. "

But of course, ThePlainLiar seest not this!

GeneralDae:
What does this even mean? Explain in clear terms.

Whow! This is very hard in writing! Let me shrink it.

Eg You Cheated on your wife! Do you think it is only 1 person you inflicted pain on?

No, they are many!

Number 1 is God your Creator, Who warned you not to do it but you did not listen and He even went as far as helping you to by doing one or two things to scatter your plan on cheating yet you accomplished it, so measure, how pained will He Be that you Disobeyed Him and then you thwarted His Help and Assistance?

2 your wife! Movies have already shown you how angry she shall be

3 Then She shall still report you 2 God Again. Increased wahala!

4) Your Daughter/Daughters, how angry shall they be?

5, Your sons, 6, Your in laws, 7 your family,

So check it, how many people are crying and how many people have you wounded?

And I have not started counting oh, for remember the boyfriend or prospecting boyfriend of your slay mama too is also affected!

So measure the Pains on ground and.what quantity is it, if you can,

And count the number of persons who have a case against you, if you do not already have more than 20 Complainants Excluding God oh!

shadeyinka:
You referred me to Eph 2:1-2 and I explained exactly what it means.

The Scripture above means that it is the Power of Christ that has empowered US who used (in the past) to live in sin and lust to live a NEW life of Righteousness!

It is NOT even about whether or not a Christian appreciate the Grace of God in Salvation.

Meanwhile, we are talking about the sinner and his proclivity to sin which is also contained in the same Ephesians 2:1-2 and I highlighted it but you chose to ignore the highlight and talk about the Power of Christ which was not the issue of dispute. Is this not what I presented up above?

"First you did not pay due attention to Verse 1 and 2 of that Ephesians 2.

"1 And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;

2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, "

The key words "trespasses" and "sins" and "walking" thereto are the central keys of all my statements and I the Power of Christ was not in dispute at all.

shadeyinka:
I didn't emphasize only good works: I emphasized WORKS!.

Your words expressly and directly stated "good works"

shadeyinka:
Our good works actually give us our reward in heaven

Mat 16:27:

Now you see, up here you said "good works" precisely, "Our good works"

shadeyinka:
The Scripture is very clear on these issues
1. If a Christian's name is blotted out of the book of life, it is impossible to get it back again.
[i]Heb 6:4-6:

As I said earlier, I am not going past the fact that my Name can be Blotted Out and I do not want that at all, so i really do not care if it can be blotted and rewritten. For me, I do not want it blotted out at all.

shadeyinka:
As a child of your parent, you don't go about living your life in fear of them disowning you for your imperfections:

Now you fall here, for the Fear Must Come when you go Against their Will and Commands!

shadeyinka:
Because as a true son of your parents, you honour them so much that it makes you live your life to please them.

And this is where the Judgement is which resides with the Parents, not the child and Surely it is the Parent who Truly knows whether the Child has honoured them!

shadeyinka:
Same as a child of God. He is not in fear of being cast out of God's presence because he honours God so much to effortlessly live his life to please God

As I said, it is God Who Shall Judge if such children in Truth did Honour Him and not the child or children!

shadeyinka:
[i][b]Some Christians Don't know that they are Gods children through Christ and not slaves hence, they are always living in fear of rejection by God if they are not perfectly perfect.[/b]

Some Christians Don't know that they are God's children through Christ? Then they are not Christians or have not completed their walk on becoming Christians.

LordReed:
I don't do belief. Belief to me is a useless proposition or more accurately a tentative position held until you arrive at facts/knowledge.

Yet you Be-Live on Land and not on the sea, you be-Live on your car and aeroplane, you be live on nature (biology) and on biologist called archeologist, whose favourite game is to play with Nature (sand, stones, dirt and rocks) which when children do so, you scream on them to get out of the dirt.

But I am happy to see you clearly admit that you be live on Nature, which I have put to you severally but are unable to change. But I understand!

WibusJaga:
Sometimes I can't help but wonder how one will be made to burn forever & ever & ever & ever.... in HELL on account of mere 100 years or less he lived here on earth.

It is meant to for you to pay for Each and Every drop of Pain and Suffering you gave to each and every soul, both God and man, maybe Angels etc multiplied by the number of Souls, multiplied by the number of offences, multiplied by the number of times those offences were committed, multiplied by the time, days or weeks those offences were running, multiplied by ... You get it as Michael Bolton sang "Forever isn't long enough!"

Or on the flip side, do not take death for granted! It is worse than what you think or know!

The same Law of No Eye hath Seen Also Applies here too!

shadeyinka:
The Scripture is NOT about any backsliding Christian

Oh, that's your view on the matter "backsliding Christian" I do not see "backsliding Christians" I see people who do not Know nor Appreciate the Great Gravity and Impact of The Gift of God through Christ.

They think it a small or little weighted matter and thus, I was not addressing this matter from that perspective which of course as I have stated above "They Do not Appreciate The Great Gravity and Weight of The Gift of God nor do they fully appreciate the great weight of Judgement of Pain and Suffering which awaits them if they Do Not Diigently Take Hold of the Gift of God, which is my own perspective on this matter.

shadeyinka:
Are you saying that God doesn't know the End from the beginning?

When asked this question I have always answered that there is A Difference between Knowing Everything from beginning to End (or End to beginning whichever you prefer) and Can Know Everything.

And God Exercises these 2 Options at His Will.

But from Scriptures, He often adopts the "He Can Know" Option" Genesis 2:19, Genesis 6:5, Exodus 16:4.and many other examples in the Bible!

So, As A Creator, He surely can know Everything but as A Father, the Pleasure is in being Pleasantly Surprised and Giving Blessings or the Pain in being greatly disappointed and giving Curses!

shadeyinka:
Our good works actually give us our reward in heaven

Mat 16:27:
"For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works."

1Cor 3:8:
"Now he that plants and he that waters are one: and every man shall receive his own reward ACCORDING TO HIS OWN LABOR."

Rev 22:12:
"And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be."

Note, you emphasized "good works" but the Bible said "Works", which is All kinds of Works including good, bad, ugly, beautiful, wicked, evil etc according to the passages you Stated above.

Not just "good works" as you said and I said earlier "it is The Court that will decide these things and not you nor I!

shadeyinka:
We both know that once a person's name is deleted from the book of life it cannot be written their again.

I stopped at the "Blotting of a persons name from the Book of Life, where the Scripture Stopped and I do not take up on myself nor will I be taking up such enterprise in presuming to know what happens after a person's name has been so blotted out from the book of Life.

Nor do I concern myself with these things. I am happy to concentrate on ensuring that my name is not so Blotted Out!

shadeyinka:
If we agree on this, when does a Christian loose his salvation through sin? Is it whenever he commits a sin OR at the point of death?

Which is why I said, it is for the Court to Decide for I am Not Judge of the Sinner!

shadeyinka:
Any such Christian permanently and irrevocably forfeit his salvation.

As i stated before, it is for The Court to decide these things, we do not have jurisdiction to pass judgement on these things, God did not appointed us Judge to decide over these things!

shadeyinka:
Eph 2:8-9
8 For it is by grace you have been saved through faith, and this not from yourselves; it is the gift of God, 9 not by works, so that no one can boast. 10 For we are God’s workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance as our way of life

Mmh, long argument coming up.

First you did not pay due attention to Verse 1 and 2 of that Ephesians 2.

"1 And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;

2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world,

If a person is still in trespasses and sins and he walks accordance with the course of this world, can such be a partaker of the kingdom of God?

I am certain you know the True Answer to this!

shadeyinka:
If a person claim that he is Born Again but living in SIN, will you say the person is Born Again?
Jesus described those who are Born Again by the kind of Fruit that they produce. The reason why they produce good fruit is because their Tree is GOOD

Judge ye, can a Tree of Sin be good? Or Shall the Tree full of sin bear Holy fruits or Sin Fruits?

shadeyinka:
I think that your position is that a GOOD Tree can Produce BAD Fruit!

No, sir, I have never ever made such representation, it is IMPOSSIBLE for me to do so, for I Stand on the Law of being a Holy (Tree) so that your Fruits will be Holy and Must be Holy for it is A Tree that bears the fruit and not the fruit, the Tree!

shadeyinka:
Any Preacher who INDIRECTLY preaches indulgence to sinning OR INFER such in the name of GRACE is SATANIC.

Agreed!

shadeyinka:
Any follower who claims to be Born Again AND is NOT transformed to a NEW CREATURE is of the Devil.

Agreed

shadeyinka:
Any Preaching of SUCH is NOT the Gospel of Grace. It is a devils doctrine.

Agreed

shadeyinka:
The Gospel of Grace simply put is:
1. Jesus PAID the full price of our Salvation
2. We are not saved because we MERIT the salvation but by God's Mercy
3. Anyone who is SAVED becomes a NEW Creature (old self of Sin is Passed Away, he has a new nature of Righteousness)
4. Our Fruit betray whether we are truly saved or not: He who delights in sin has NEVER known Christ

Agreed

shadeyinka:
5. Our good works earn us our reward in Heaven

In Law, we say, it is The Court that will decide this, not you or I

shadeyinka:
6. Our Salvation is NOT an AFTERTHOUGHT, it was prepared by God before the foundation of the World (Rev 13:

Agreed

shadeyinka:
If ANYONE associate directly or indirectly indulgence to SIN with the gospel of the Grace of Christ, such is an Agent of SATAN!

Agreed

shadeyinka:
Can you please answer these questions:?
Does God know Dtruthspeaker even before He created Adam and Eve?

Hmmh! I do not think that this question is valid for you are demanding of me to supply the Mind of my Creator, as though I was there when He decided to Create Adam and Eve, wherein I was not Truly there, so it Impossible for me to validly and Truly Answer this question.

shadeyinka:
Did God know that Dtruthspeaker will become Born Again and Live his life to Please his saviour Jesus Christ?

Ah! This one I can answer! He Knew I Ought to Change my Birth and He Knew that I will See His Hands in and On my Life and He knew that I Ought to See it, which I verily do Confirm that I did see It and He Knew that after Seeing it, then He knew that I Ought not Flee from Him but Rather Flee Towards Him for He has given me the wisdom to Know that if I want to Live and have a Healthy Good Life which I very much want and like, then I must Follow Him.

shadeyinka:
Is Dtruthspeaker's name already written in the book of life or your name will be written immediately you die?

The Bible Clearly says that our names are Written in the Book of Life BUT IT CAN BLOTTED OUT or Expunged/Struck Out as we say in Law!
Revelation 3:5

"He who overcomes will thus be clothed in white garments; and I will not erase his name from the book of life

Psalm 69:28

"May they be blotted out of the book of life and not be listed with the righteous"

shadeyinka:
Can God mistakenly write a person's name in the book of life?

I answered this above!

shadeyinka:
If a person loses his salvation, can such a person get it back again?

Mmmh! what I have seen both in the Bible and in this world is that if After God has Approached a certain Person and the Person Fails to Follow Him or Walk with Him, As Soon As God Departs from such a one, it is Finished for that person Eg Saul, Solomon, Hezekiah etc

truespeak:
And the Law is
1. Equity (Grace) aids the Vigilant and not the Indolent!

2. He who comes to Equity (Grace) MUST come with Clean Hands!

3. He who seeks Equity (Grace) MUST do Equity (Grace)!

4. Equity (Grace) FOLLOWS the Law!

Sweet! Law the Beginning, Law the Journey, Law the Judge and Law the End

shadeyinka:
I think you seriously err in your comprehension of the gospel of grace.

Are we saved by Good Works or by Grace through Faith?

1) We are Measured and Judged by Works, Preferably what God would call "Good" not what you or I or any man calls "good", but whatever God calls "Good"!

2) Then we are Further Measured and Judged by the Truest Contents of our soul ("thoughts" ) were No Lie, Falsehood or Deceit is, which is incapable of entering in. And God Sees and has Records of All our Thoughts Contained therein!

3) it is If and When He is Pleased with our Results Contained therein, then He can exercise His Option and Power of Waiving Away any Infraction Which He Finds in Us, (Which He shall and Must Find in us, For His Standard is "Absence of Sin or Wrong called Holiness) But because He is Pleased with our result so far, As A King and Judge He can therefore Exercise His Power and Prerogative of Granting the Grace of Mercy and Clemency upon a Guilty Accused!

It is this Grant of Mercy (Grace) which saves us from condemnation BUT THIS CAN ONLY BE GRANTED IN A COURT AND NOT BEFORE YOU ARE ACCUSED AND TAKEN TO COURT.

AND THE COURT IS STILL IN FRONT OF US, As the Bible says, So we are not yet saved.

ON THAT DAY, We shall All be Accused and Taken to The Court to Stand Trial for our Offences and Sins and it is on that Day we shall know our Respective Fates, whether we shall be Granted the Grace of Mercy.

Which is why the Bible warns that "SCARCELY are the Righteous Saved" because "All have Sinned!"

And why Christ came to Show Us the Way that We Might Escape Judgement of Condemnation and The Way is Through KNOWLEDGE, UNDERSTANDING AND FEAR of God, which is what I have found "Faith" to be and it Truly Is!

shadeyinka:
Anyone who preaches that the gospel of grace mean having an indulgence to commit SIN is nothing other than Satanic.

The gospel of grace simply means that Salvation is by Grace through Faith: it doesn't mean that believers have been given the grace to wallowing in sin and iniquity as erroneously thought by some.

Under this notion, the preachers never directly say, "indulge in sin" but it is inferred, in that they always say and emphasize in different ways to the same point that "when you sin, Christ Covers you, as long as you are born again. We are in a dispensation of grace" they say.

(As if God was not gracious before or has never been gracious but now He is being gracious, all of which are not True, but this is just an Obiter Dicta!)

And look at the quality of souls who are excited and jump about that "false grace doctrine", are they not whores, thieves, liars etc?

And look at how angry and agitated those same lovers of this false grace doctrine get when you directly tell them do not W.hore or pursue W.hores, Lie, Steal, Kill, or do any bad thing, are they pleased and did they rejoice to receive this Doctrine of Rightness and Goodness?

No, they Do Not!

And yet are they happy to come and report that they are "Christians" and they even open threads "preaching" and also I do see them attempting to preach outside nairaland saying "I am born again"

But one hour after their enterprise, they have returned to their whoring, lying, cheating etc

And after this also, they still return to preach some more, and they think that God would accept them. Okay oh, after all I am not going to be Judge on that Day.

But I am happy to Know The Laws and to Follow Them!

But the hearers too love the message and know that it may not be True but, nonetheless, they love it, therefore, they choose to deceive themselves thus, their blood is on their own heads.

elated177:
El Elohe Yahshrael!

Eph 5: 1 Follow God’s example, therefore, as dearly loved children 2 and walk in the way of love, just as Christ loved us and gave himself up for us as a fragrant offering and sacrifice to God.
3 But among you there must not be even a hint of sexual immorality, or of any kind of impurity, or of greed, because these are improper for God’s holy people. 4 Nor should there be obscenity, foolish talk or coarse joking, which are out of place, but rather thanksgiving. 5 For of this you can be sure: No immoral, impure or greedy person—such a person is an idolater—has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God. 6 Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of such things God’s wrath comes on those who are disobedient. 7 Therefore do not be partners with them.

Teach and obey the Ten Commandments of YHVH Almighty, which his begotten Son, Yahushua the Messiah, embodies.

Do not say "grace" has granted you the freedom for a life of wickedness and disobedience. If you do, then you don't know what grace means within the context of the Scriptures.

2 Peter 3: 14 So then, dear friends, since you are looking forward to this, make every effort to be found spotless, blameless and at peace with him. 15 Bear in mind that our Lord’s patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him. 16 He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.

How else would anyone be spotless, blameless and at peace with the Creator outside his Ten Commandments?

2 Peter 3: 11 Since everything will be destroyed in this way, what kind of people ought you to be? You ought to live holy and godly lives 12 as you look forward to the day of God and speed its coming. That day will bring about the destruction of the heavens by fire, and the elements will melt in the heat. 13 But in keeping with his promise we are looking forward to a new heaven and a new earth, where righteousness dwells.

Only those who walk in Righteousness will dwell in the new heaven and the new earth where righteousness dwells.


El Elohe Yahshrael! Hallelu Yah!

Seconded!

LordReed:
The reason for asking for extra-biblical sources is to provide evidence. Like my 2 year you seem to be missing the rules of the game.

Evidence of Morality/Law not Just "Evidence" so this is perversion and craftiness and Change of Post!

LordReed:
Simply claiming something means nothing if you can't prove it. I am sure you are familiar with a document called Cof O, that document will win any loudmouth claims of ownership.

more deviations! There is No Way you can Reasonably and Properly Continue here at all

LordReed:
You really should come to school with my 2 year old and her friends, I am sure that's the appropriate level for you. LMAO!!

Now, the ridicule flies in, Clearly Showing No Road for you to Escape!