₦airaland Forum

Nickshrapnel:
I think first time offenders should be made to pay fine and have their car impounded, while frequent offenders should have their vehicle crushed.

Rubbish! The government said they would take care of the citizens good welfare, destruction of personal property is not good welfare but wickedness.

They benefited from the sale of limited land and now it is time to harvest their products, they citizens are the ones to pay for their benefit?

If this is not Fraud, then people do not know the meaning of Fraud!

naptu2:
Judicial processes: My opposition to the practice stemmed from the fact that the state authorities were auctioning vehicles without going through judicial processes. Vehicles were impounded, the Task Force waited for 2 months and then they auctioned the vehicles. These processes could obviously easily have been abused..

Horse Sheet! The Law Can Not Be Used To Perpetrate A Wrong! The Law Can Do No Wrong is The Highest Law.

You have a Traffic Problem, it is your job to resolve it. In a small state as Lagos, Traffic Problems were created by the same Thieves in governance selling lands without care and putting a stop because road infrastructure was shrinking also.

Now, they are Stealing your property or you prefer the destruction of your property because they are overwhelmed with the problem, they created.

blamingthedevil:
It is the law of Lagos State.
Being wrong does not exist

It is not The Law of Lagos State, it is the law of the thieves who rule Lagos State.

naptu2:
However, I believe that vehicles that are arrested for driving against the flow of traffic should be crushed rather than auctioned.

I also believe that the government should put up more road signs like the Fashola Administration did.

What an Outrageous Judgement you gave there!

If that is the way, I move that anyone who does a Wrong thing, no matter how slight, eg spitting in a public place, Should and Must Be Killed!

naptu2:
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The "Mobile court" is Not a True Court, it is rather lawyers appointed by Thieves in Governance, to Steal Private Property through what they call "law".

The Law can never ever prescribe the doing of a Wrong! Never. But thieves will say that the law prescribed such!

OlujobaSamuel:
Yes, I think it is legally wrong.
No one should dispose off another party asset except through the order of a court(superior court) that is, high court or its equivalent with a temporary forfeiture and final forfeiture order obtained by the relevant agency.
This applies to cow, car, house, jewellery and any other item of value. But this is Naija, we operate by law of the rulers, so every ruler determines the law to follow, if Na lie, ask the Terrorist in Chief

A Court will not order that it is Lawful to "Steal" what Does Not Belong to You! (A Corrupt Judge will)

Blue3k:
Why do certain people feel its wrong for Lagos to auction seized vehicles but it's right for Ondo to auction Siezed Cattle?

Because it is Unlawful and Stealing!

ThePlainTruth:
@Dtruthspeaker
Who are the rulers in Nigeria? Some people have followers that does not make them a ruler over their followers. So why have you claimed that Jesus was a ruler because He had followers?

First, you contended among other contentions that Christ was not A Ruler, I countered and Proved it.

Now you have Changed Position to now Alter the Established Truth. "A Ruler is Only A Ruler because He has Followers"

And you did not object to this Established.Truth when I laid it!

"What does it take to be a Ruler?.

Answer, Followers/Subjects!

A person who has no follower, is No Ruler!"

Now you now wish to change a Truth to A Lie, yet you think you have done No Wrong and Worthy of Condemnation!

I leave you with these Truths as played out here in Nigeria, is it not said and reported that Bola Tinubu is the True Governor (Ruler) of Lagos State?

Yet, is he Truly the Governor (Ruler) of Lagos State?

Or who is reported to rule Nigeria, is it Buhari or is it the unknown and unverified persons who make what is known as "the Cabal"?

In Law, we describe this scenario and circumstance as De Facto Rule and De Jure Rule!

ThePlainTruth:
Jesus, knowing that they intended to come and make him king by force, withdrew again to a mountain by himself. John 6:15

Why are you just making up your own stories.

Because I have answered all your questions and you could no longer proceed reasonably, you have resorted to Fraud and False Accusation.

For the issue is Not About Christ Rejecting Kingship But rather you Wrongly said that "Christ did not rule at all?

See your statement below
"But Jesus did not rule Israel..."

Even by saying "Jesus, knowing that they intended to come and make him king", you have Completely Proven the Truth of all I said.

And now I have Shown you these things Contained and Recorded in the Bible, rather than receive the honour of acknowledging The Solid Truth of God, you rather chose to take up shame by perpetrating fraud and making false accusations, yet you would say that God should give you Eternal Life of Goodness when God has Clearly said He Hated Liars and False Accusers!

budaatum:
Do you see what you did there? I'll put it to you that you must be aware that your interpretation required some effort on ones part to see what it is you meant as opposed to passing a JUDGEMENT OF RIGHTEOUSNESS ON MYSELF and wrongeousness on you.

No sir, at the highlighted, the only interpretation I said about passing Judgement On One Ownself whether you or I or anyone else is simply "Do Not Do It"! As The Law hath Said. And you got it.

budaatum:
...but when buda applies the same sort of reasoning to infer they might not have sufficient information to judge if one "Matthew+6:1-4NIV"Be careful not to practice your righteousness in front of others to be seen by them[/url]", its "off target by kilometres".

Mathew 6:1-4 is about "Giving" and not directly about "Judges and Judgement" which was the issue when you raised up Mathew 6:1-4.

"budaatum:
Who are those who "Shall and Must Judge Thee and Thy Works"?

budaatum:
Is it not true ("a law", in your lingo perhaps), that those from whom the things one does is hidden can not be the judge of one's righteousness? Their judgement should at least be suspected, don't you think? Especially when they pass judgement on what they have not first sought to understand?

A Good Judgment is Given and Based on A Specific Issue Relating to "Things Seen' and "Things, Seen to be Hidden".

And it is only arrived at AFTER understanding has been sought and obtained through questions having FIRST being asked ("Cross-examination" )!

Thattallgirl:
Based on what you quoted in John...is there where the scripture says "98%"? You know it's wrong to add or remove from the scriptures

If my Father is Spirit how then shall I not be spirit, if I am Truly His child?

Shall a goat birth wood or a woman, a ghost?

John was Stated The Law, Spirit births spirit, flesh births flesh!

kelvinkelvinkk:
This goes specifically to people who believe the Bible is the word of an omni-God. Books by their very nature requires interpretation. intelligent people could read a passage in the-same book and with very good intentions still come up with radically different interpretations of its meaning. Humans are flawed beings with abilities or perceptions limited to the subjective alone. Communicating through books would always lead to varying understandings and interpretation of that book.

Your Work Reveals who you are (by their fruits we shall know them," show me your friends and I'll tell you who you are".

The intention "men's rea" of a Writer is revealed in his Work and a Writer of Truth generally clearly expresses his Intention for communicating exactly as you have just done above which clearly says that

"You are wondering why God Chose to Communicate by Writing when written materials can be construed out His Purposes, Meaning and Intention" and to insult God.

Which in Law and Literature, is Called the "Object Clause"

So you see, even you clearly disclosed your intention for writing!

He Communicated in Every Reasonable Way, Talking, Dreams, Visions via Messengers, Signs and Finally Writing!

And all of this means are very much capable of being misinterpreted and Wickedly manipulated out of the intention of the Communicator!

budaatum:
But those "reasonable men" would not have sufficient information if I obeyed .Mathew 6:1-4

Wow, bad Bible! Matthew 6:1-4 is about "Giving" not about "Judges and Judgement", thus, you are off target by kilometres.

The Bible has already provided how a judgement must be arrived at and what a Judge Must Do! Eg Zechariah 7:9

"Thus speaketh the LORD of hosts, saying, Execute true judgment, and shew mercy and compassions every man to his brother:

10 And oppress not the widow, nor the fatherless, the stranger, nor the poor; and let none of you imagine evil against his brother in your heart".

Thattallgirl:
Lol but where does the 98% come in, in the scripture...that's what I don't understand

When you were born by your True parents, by how much percentage are you there daughter, blood group, DNA and all?

Those who study these things say about 99.9% you "resemble" Your True Parents, flesh bones, blood and all.

So if I resemble my fleshly parents by 99.9%, I must resemble my True Parent by at least 99.9%.

And since my True Father always says "spirit" "spirit", "I have no business with the flesh" I must be spirit for Him to be my True Father.

ThePlainTruth:
These were the rulers of Israel during the time Jesus was in Israel: King Herod the Great, who reigned when Jesus was born, installed and removed high priests at will. By the time of Jesus’ adulthood, the office went exclusively to candidates whom the ruling powers considered to be reliable. Source: https://catholicexchange.com/the-rulers-of-jesus-time

So how does this verse relate to Jesus as the ruler of Israel: Micah 5:1-2 But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting.

What does it take to be a Ruler?.

Answer, Followers/Subjects!

A person who has no follower, is No Ruler!

Mathew 21:8, clearly showed He had a "Multitude". Mathew 21:46

Blakjewelry:
I am wondering why atheist on nairaland decides to attack people's Faith as a hubby

Remember it is Written "there is No Rest for the Wicked"?

They think that they can stop the-evil which is coming after them by stopping the people who tell them that it is coming after them!

FOLYKAZE:
Incoherent.!

Guy goodnight

Translation! I can not Counter this, so I Flee!

FOLYKAZE:
Yes

Now, you are a Liar, for Porcelains, Plastic and Fabrics do not have pores!

FOLYKAZE:
How can God be better than his inventors? We made him who he is..... Look at his builders arguing like they know minds aside theirs. This prove they made him

So your phone, cars, laptops, pencils are better than you?

Good to note, I'll rather employ them then!

FOLYKAZE:
Does he has a diccck?

Does your mascot, mannequin have skin pores?

FOLYKAZE:
Who is this owner?

What is the location of the garden?

1) Their Creator is their Owner.

2) Do you not know Out of Reach means end of information?

Also, we have exhausted the Course of this thread and is there no end to your questioning?

I do not subscribe to the foolishness of philosophy, which is the asking of questions beyond Profitable Use, into eternity, thereby keeping a person busy with foolish Ponderings and Thinkings.

When I am hungry, I eat, Once I am satisfied I stop eating and put away the food.

I believe I have satisfied your real hunger by reason of this thread, therefore, I believe your hunger has been filled, thus, you are now pursuing another delicacy!

kingxsamz:
Lol... I love how Christians compare their god to manufacturers of cars and generators. I thought your god was supposed to be better.

Surely, you did not forget that we were made like Him?

FOLYKAZE:
With God? Is Garden of Eden in heaven or physical earth?

I said their "Owner"and I also said Garden of Eden is Out of Reach!

FatherOfJesus:
It means Jesus would have to ride to multiple planets on chariot of horses to rapture believers.

Another problem is that humans would have invented floating space colonies and warp speed spacecraft to other galaxies. I wonder how Jesus is going to reach these people using horses.

When will you learn that creations are ALWAYS were the Creator put them while the Creator is free to go to places the creation does not even know exist?

Exactly as your phone, laptop, toothpick do not know any kitchen or first floor or town or local government where they are.

All they know is the table, cupboard or box they normally live in!

So like you, Movement is not a problem!

FOLYKAZE:
Where are the primordial animals and plants?

With their Owner and Out of reach from us!

FOLYKAZE:
Adam and Eve were outside the garden before Cain and Abel appeared in the scene.

Where are the primordial plants and animals of Eden today since you claimed they were untouched?

As you said, they were outside the garden and we too are outside the garden, so Eden and all its inhabitants are out of reach and out of scope!

budaatum:
I can not go about yelling, "I am righteous"? Damn!

You can't, but your works can and do speak for you

Remember The Law, "By their Fruits...?"!

budaatum:
Who are those who "Shall and Must Judge Thee and Thy Works"? Are they righteous?

You used the word "those" while I actually said "Another" and I Had The Most Supreme Judge in Mind when I said "Another".

But by The Law of Proverbs 27:2, Other Reasonable men can also Judge you and your works too!

FOLYKAZE:
If we were to go by the emboldened, do we still have those plants and animals that were untouched? They should be hale and healthy till date.... Shouldn't they?

They would have been Except that Adam gave birth to Cain who Defiled and Polluted the ground with blood and Cain gave birth to Lamech another killer and finally many hamargedon's
and hamargedonesses were born and they soiled the ground and animals with their sperm and squirt and, viola, all is polluted!

Thattallgirl:
98% Spirit? Bible verse pls? Lol

John 3:6 "That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit."

And Who "born", us? Is it not God Who is Spirit?

FOLYKAZE:
The principal offender has already been served punishment for disobeying God's instruction. The serpent, woman and Eve were severely punished accordingly. We weren't told the innocent animals, insects , and plants would share from the fate of the real offenders.

If plants and animals weren't the real perpetrators, why then do they share from punishment of an offence they didn't partook? Isn't that injustice?

That is the First Principal Offenders, the plants and animals were untouched, but their children too became barbaric offenders and this time they included plants and animals in their Offences eg if harmagedon pours his evil sperm on my corn seedlings, would you want to eat my corn at harvest time, if you knew? Iyama!

No, you would not, for it is exactly as a bedsheet he used to wipe his sperm from having sex with Tony's wife. You would never want to lay on it or even on the bed!

Same for a cow which he penetrated, (iyama), surely you would not touch any of these things.

Why?

Because they are Polluted, Corrupted and Defiled!

harmargedon:
Abeg let's hear word, you've been brain washed with nonsense. So plants and animals that died committed the same sin abi, or animals that cry during child bearing sinned against God. You need to educate yourself more often, it helps.

See the-evil oh! Did I say plants and animals died because they committed sin?

Did I not say "Like the Clothes of a Leper or Ebola patient, they were IN CONTACT with a Sinner!"?

You who is educated yet can not read and understand because of your.evil filled soul.