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Christianity Etc › Re: How To Escape The Great Tribulation That Is Coming Into This World. by Dtruthspeaker: 8:49pm On Apr 13, 2021
AsherAmari:
Lol... Please don't remove it o.
Never my brother!
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Atheists Know The Bible Even Better Than Christians? by Dtruthspeaker: 6:24pm On Apr 13, 2021
PeaceJoyLove:
They absolutely do more than millions self acclaimed christians. I'm a christian, and I know what I am saying. Goodluck sir.
They need to do more than Christians now if not how can they successfully Annoy God, Destroy man especially the Followers of God by doing nothing?

So of course they must do lot of things with which you would applaud and then thereafter, you must listen to all they have to say.

The Weapon of Using Good Things to Lie and kill!
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Atheists Know The Bible Even Better Than Christians? by Dtruthspeaker: 6:14pm On Apr 13, 2021
EmekaBlue:
Most were good Christians before they stopped believing in God due to unanswered prayers or one thing or the other
True, save for the part of "good Christians". They thought themselves "good"

1) because they sat at home and did nothing; No play, No fight, No quarrel because they could naturally do these things.

2) because they nearly always did what mommy and daddy said, even if they suffered to accomplish it.
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Atheists Know The Bible Even Better Than Christians? by Dtruthspeaker: 6:00pm On Apr 13, 2021
FatherOfJesus:
The difference between a physics textbook and the Bible is evidence.
The Bible never provides evidence for anything hence rational people don’t believe it
How many times have I given you evidence as Supplied by the Bible and YOU COULD NOT ANSWER, rather you started hurling and howling Curses? grin

grin Answer! About 28 Issues spanning over 10 Threads, And On Every Occasion YOU LOST, as you Admitted! grin grin

Always Howling and Cursing as a wounded man! grin grin

Let me take Cover, More Curses Acoming! grin grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Atheists Know The Bible Even Better Than Christians? by Dtruthspeaker: 5:52pm On Apr 13, 2021
Because, like Satan they know that the best way to kill a man is use what he likes!

I knew one of you was gonna raise this issue. grin grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Job, Numbers: Bible Books That Swayed Supreme Court Ruling On Female Inheritance by Dtruthspeaker:
omonnakoda:
You are not communicating

You are talking to yourself
grin Translation! "I am speechless and I can not rebut"! grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Job, Numbers: Bible Books That Swayed Supreme Court Ruling On Female Inheritance by Dtruthspeaker: 5:03pm On Apr 13, 2021
Bekind123:
[color=#006600][/color] That is why it is called the oldest book with the latest news. BIBLE is good news simple, always current.
grin Never heard this before "the oldest book with the latest news" grin grin

Only The Lord can Do That! Only The Lord!
Christianity Etc › Re: Job, Numbers: Bible Books That Swayed Supreme Court Ruling On Female Inheritance by Dtruthspeaker: 5:02pm On Apr 13, 2021
omonnakoda:
The starting point is definition

What does that mean : Wicked , Evil?


What makes you think your notion of those things is shared by everyone.

How do we recognize evil or wickedness?
Discarding Definition and moving to real living, the simplest and fastest and surest test is, if Someone gives something to you, would you grab it with your hands with a smile, thanking the person?

Or would you Frown/Anger and reject it, cursing the person?

If you grab it with a smile and thanks, it Must be Good.

But if you Reject it with Anger and a Frown, Cursing the Giver of It, It must be Evil.

Practical! A Hungry man is given a Bowl Full of Cow Faeces to eat and Bottle of Goat Piss to drink Vs. A Bowl Full of Semo and Egusi with a Satchet of Pure-Water!

Everyone knows which of these "Delicacies" is Good for an Hungry man, for we have all been hungry at a specific period of our lives and we all know which Option we all chose and must choose.

Even a Wicked man who himself gave Cow Faeces to a hungry man, did not choose Cow faeces when he hungered!
Christianity Etc › Re: How To Escape The Great Tribulation That Is Coming Into This World. by Dtruthspeaker: 4:42pm On Apr 13, 2021
AsherAmari:
What the world is facing now will be nothing compared to the great tribulation.
So this one never great reach? No wahala I no go remove my Safety Jacket and Seatbelt!
Christianity Etc › Re: Job, Numbers: Bible Books That Swayed Supreme Court Ruling On Female Inheritance by Dtruthspeaker: 4:35pm On Apr 13, 2021
omonnakoda:
That is very Grand talk.

I do not think we have reached a point where everyone agrees on what is Good or Right Wickedness or Injustice.
Oh, no this is where you are wrong, it is Settled and this is clearly Seen in the Fact that No One likes to Receive a Wicked or Evil thing.

No, Not One. Not even the Wicked or Evil man! It is even he who shouts the loudest that wickedness has been done to him.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Love For God VS The Love Of God by Dtruthspeaker: 4:30pm On Apr 13, 2021
Kingdomtruth:
Even the scripture you quoted up there talks about the SPIRIT too...Well, I'm not trying to impose my believe on you. I believe that it is by FAITH alone through the SPIRIT that we are put right with God. But it is OK if you have a different believe than this...This is what I believe in and I do not have any reason whatsoever, to believe otherwise... A quick advise: Just hold on to what you believe and I will do same...However, I'll continue to pray for God's TRUTH to be revealed to all of us in Jesus' name.
Yes it is Truly by Faith but I bet that beyond the Definition of Faith, you do not Truly know the Practical and Usufactory Application of it, just like Thattallgirl, or do you?
Christianity Etc › Re: Job, Numbers: Bible Books That Swayed Supreme Court Ruling On Female Inheritance by Dtruthspeaker: 4:19pm On Apr 13, 2021
WoundedLamb:
I'm not doubting you but when you start using religious books to make laws, you better be ready to accommodate the excesses of each of them including those of other religions. Trust me, you don't want this.
Man Needs Goods not wickedness; he needs Fairness, Equality and "Just is" not unfairness, inequality and imbalance.

Thus, every Court is Allowed to Go Everywher and Anywhere, including Space, grin to Find the Judgement that will Rightfully and Equally and Reasonably and Fairly Settle the issue of Contention, Coming Out with An Applaudable and Admirable Judgement!

It is not about the furtherance of a mode of "divine" practice but the Furtherance and Promotion of All things Good and Right and Fair and Just!

Through God, The Bible was Chosen by Him to be The Highest and the Best at Delivering the Most Righteous and Goodest Judgements and Laws Ever!
Christianity Etc › Re: Job, Numbers: Bible Books That Swayed Supreme Court Ruling On Female Inheritance by Dtruthspeaker: 4:14pm On Apr 13, 2021
Sagtop:
Just imagine if it was Quranic verse, the Judge would have been tagged as Shariah Judge & they would have screamed Islamization as usual undecided
A Right and Good Judgement is Always Applauded even if it was taken from a Cave man!
Christianity Etc › Re: Job, Numbers: Bible Books That Swayed Supreme Court Ruling On Female Inheritance by Dtruthspeaker: 4:11pm On Apr 13, 2021
[quote author=omonnakoda post=100759556
]Native/ Customary law only applies to a person who dies intestate i.e. without leaving a will or to property such as land e.g. that is Family/clan property
If you leave a will it should not apply[/quote]All Laws whether Native or Not Should be for the doing of Good and Right not Wickedness and injustice Will or No Will!
Christianity Etc › Re: Job, Numbers: Bible Books That Swayed Supreme Court Ruling On Female Inheritance by Dtruthspeaker: 4:09pm On Apr 13, 2021
mmsen:
You know a country is backwards when it has to use the Bible to justify that which should be common sense.
The world is destroyed because man is Very Evil!
Christianity Etc › Re: Job, Numbers: Bible Books That Swayed Supreme Court Ruling On Female Inheritance by Dtruthspeaker: 4:08pm On Apr 13, 2021
femi4:
Terrible culture, they will never agree that their forefathers ain't perfect.

Why will any sane tribe continue to encourage and promote errors from generation to generation in the name of culture
Because they are WICKED! A wicked man loves injustice!
Christianity Etc › Re: Job, Numbers: Bible Books That Swayed Supreme Court Ruling On Female Inheritance by Dtruthspeaker: 4:06pm On Apr 13, 2021
omonnakoda:
The Bible does not say what it is here being suggested that it says

Do women have equal inheritance rights as their brothers in the bible YES or NO ?

It allows women to inherit
WHEN THERE ARE NO SONS
God's Law and The Law is on Everyone who requires sustenance, that they should and must be sustained!

Thus, The Law recognises that a woman joins her man to and is sustained whil a man has to till his sustenance!

Therefore, more should not and cannot be given to she who has, but rather to he who has not!
Christianity Etc › Re: Job, Numbers: Bible Books That Swayed Supreme Court Ruling On Female Inheritance by Dtruthspeaker: 3:52pm On Apr 13, 2021
KingsCity:
It is actually unacceptable that 5 justices out of which none is Igbo can set aside an Igbo custom
That is how Wicked your Igbo man is.

If Righteousness can not be obtained at home, it must be obtained from your neighbour! Someone Must Do Right and Good.

And All men have Jurisdiction and Right to Do The Right and Good exactly as breaking a windscreen to free up a child locked up in a parked Car!
Christianity Etc › Re: Job, Numbers: Bible Books That Swayed Supreme Court Ruling On Female Inheritance by Dtruthspeaker: 3:48pm On Apr 13, 2021
WoundedLamb:
Nice, but do they need the Bible to tell them it's unfair to be biased? Leaning on religious books to amend the legal system could be very dangerous especially given the fact that we've got multiple religions in Nigeria.
Yes, for God is The True Source and Origin of "Just is" and Right and Equality and Fairness and Goodness, not man.

Man is Too wicked and Evil to do and give these Good things in their Right Proportion and Distribution! Man is very very wicked!
Christianity Etc › Re: Job, Numbers: Bible Books That Swayed Supreme Court Ruling On Female Inheritance by Dtruthspeaker: 3:43pm On Apr 13, 2021
Islie:
Job & Numbers: 2 Bible Books That Swayed Supreme Court Ruling On Female Inheritance
dailytrust.com/how-scripture-aided-supreme-court-decision-in-female-inheritance-case
The Bible has the Best, the Most Just, the Most Balanced, the Most Fairest, the Most Righteous and The Most Goodest Laws in All the earth!

No Other Body of Laws Comes close at all!
Christianity Etc › Re: The Love For God VS The Love Of God by Dtruthspeaker: 3:37pm On Apr 13, 2021
Kingdomtruth:
And by striving to become perfect and sinless, you think you can do it by your STRENGTH without the HOLY SPIRIT?
You said it, "we have His nature in us" Exactly as Written "God with Us", "In him was life; and the life was the light of men." therefore, I can Love The Lord my God, With All My Heart, And with All My Soul and WITH ALL MY STRENGTH including using the Strength of The Lord!
Christianity Etc › Re: The Love For God VS The Love Of God by Dtruthspeaker: 2:53pm On Apr 13, 2021
Kingdomtruth:
Yes, we are christ like already because we have His nature in us. But In the very comment you quoted, I told you that: while our salvation is IMMEDIATE, our becoming PERFECT like Christ is not IMMEDIATE but GRADUAL
The highlighted is what I have been hammering on, for in it you have clearly admitted that we are not Perfect, which was what I have been going on about, thus let us all strive to be Perfect and Sinless as Christ!

Good afternoon brother!
Christianity Etc › Re: The Love For God VS The Love Of God by Dtruthspeaker:
Kingdomtruth:
Note at this point that: though, we are freed from the FLESH and have received the nature of CHRIST (HOLY SPIRIT) because we share in the DEATH of CHRIST on the CROSS by that, we still carry our OLD HEARTS.
And this is your K.O at the highlighted "The Nature of Christ"

Are we not supposed to be Christ-Like not just only receiving and having his nature? (Be the perfect as your heavenly Father is perfect is The Law)

If you "carry your old hearts" how can you be like Christ?

Did Christ have any of your old heart fruits?

Is your "old heart" compatible with Christ?

The Law is "Be Perfect as thy heavenly Father is Perfect"

You have the duty and obligation to Be Perfect in Following after Christ and not resting on your bums!
Christianity Etc › Re: The Love For God VS The Love Of God by Dtruthspeaker: 6:46pm On Apr 12, 2021
Thattallgirl:
Lol it's fine. You're in denial. I ask questions based on what verses you quote but when u feel like you're in a corner, you try to avoid it by bringing something else
No sis, it is because those ancillary issues go into another set of Lenghty Disputes which will certainly take us very far away from the issue at hand.

And if this is issue has gone this long already, I certainly will not be willing to go into another lengthy dispute today. I know that in another day and another thread we would have course to examine them on their own force.

Thattallgirl:
. Andr this last two verses... even you said that the Holy Spirit in us produces fruits in us. And I asked u if it's fruit of works or flesh that the verse wrote but you didn't challenge it either. And yes the Holy Spirit makes one perfect in Christ Jesus only.
I know you are very well aware of the works of the flesh clearly elucidated in Romans and Galatians, which you summed up and referred to in the words "due to our human nature, we still fail/it isn't perfect cos we still make mistakes."

And this is where the division is for the fruits of the flesh and the fruits of the Spirit are Opposing and Contrary.

But man is the one fountain that I have have seen bringing forth both Sweet and Bitter waters or bearing both good and evil fruits, which is Against The Law - "A good tree beareth good fruits and an evil tree, evil fruits"

Thus, this is the issue, Shall a fountain bringing forth both bitter and sweet waters from the same place be Acceptable by God?

Thattallgirl:
And this last verse? cheesy thank God it's written there that God's law is in his heart...not on paper or by someone telling them do this or do that. And Romans 2:13 that I explained,I asked you that if they didn't hear the law but know the law, how did that happen but u couldn't answer cheesy

And you're welcome...had a good time in our conversation.
This is a departure from the issue and you verily know the answer but you wish to use me to raise up what you imagine is a d'fence in Hebrews 10:16-27, which is not, it is rather your condemnation!

But, if you want to see that imagined d'fence fall raise it up a thread tomorrow evening when I and other lawyers here can burst it wide open or establish it.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Era Of The Law Was Also Era Of Grace: "But Noah Found Grace In God's Eyes" by Dtruthspeaker: 3:43pm On Apr 12, 2021
Supported!
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Did God Allow Job To Suffer? by Dtruthspeaker: 3:34pm On Apr 12, 2021
FatherOfJesus:
That is a psychopath. Egoists and nonexistent mofo
grin As Usual, No Reasonable Rebuttal grin grin
Christianity Etc › Re: The Love For God VS The Love Of God by Dtruthspeaker: 3:31pm On Apr 12, 2021
Thattallgirl:
Exactly. You're not getting what I'm asking. I'm asking you that didn't the disciples have a different life apart from following Jesus to places? Didn't they have wives or homes to rest before following Jesus the next day? And the answer is yes, cos even the Bible didn't record other days of Jesus. The whole 3and a half years He used for ministry wasn't all recorded there. There's one part of the Bible that says the world cannot contain all the miracles of Jesus. So if the Bible doesn't have the complete detail, who's to say the disciples didn't sin? Cos their lives from following Jesus wasn't recorded.
Now you are hiding "in the darkness of the Bible not containing the complete details", you can raise it up against me who does not have the True details of all that transpired but in A Court of God, it has never been A D'fence that "I sinned because, Peter Sinned, if not ask Adam/Eve, Ananias/Sapphira or Israel and the heathens.

Thattallgirl:
You're saying they were perfect cos they obeyed all the laws, how do you know that? Do you know whether Peter shouted at his wife one morning? Or had a quarrel with his children one afternoon? Or other disciples too?
It is Written "better the end than the beginning thereof"

Mark the Perfect man and behold the Upright; for the end of that man is Peace." Psalm 37:37.

With this I know this conversation has come to a proper end!

Thank you for at least engaging me!
Christianity Etc › Re: The Love For God VS The Love Of God by Dtruthspeaker: 3:02pm On Apr 12, 2021
Kingdomtruth:
Nice. Lastly, so how did you receive the SPIRIT in you? what and what exactly did you do to receive the GIFT of the SPIRIT?...Thanks
Respectfully, I do not think that I should give you the answer here in Public for now you have delved into Private Matters that are not for Public Consumption!
Christianity Etc › Re: The Love For God VS The Love Of God by Dtruthspeaker: 2:59pm On Apr 12, 2021
Thattallgirl:
Or if the disciples were so perfect, how come Peter denied Jesus 3 times? Didn't Jesus say whoever disowns Him will be disowned by the Father? Didn't Peter sin? Was he still perfect?
Again, you have departed from the Issue for you verily well knew that An award is only given at the end of a matter and I was speaking from their ends hence why I earlier said

Mark the Perfect man and behold the Upright; for the end of that man is Peace." Psalm 37:37.

"The Law of his God is in his heart; NONE OF HIS STEPS STEPS SHALL SLIDE! verse 31.


And you did not challenge it.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Love For God VS The Love Of God by Dtruthspeaker: 2:48pm On Apr 12, 2021
Kingdomtruth:
OK. so do you believe in the SPIRIT of God. if yes.
Do you then believe that you have it in you as a Christian or a child of God?
Yes, I do!
Christianity Etc › Re: The Love For God VS The Love Of God by Dtruthspeaker: 2:04pm On Apr 12, 2021
Kingdomtruth:
So, in essence, you are saying that: one can be saved and eventually live in RIGHTEOUSNESS by obeying God without necessarily becoming DEATH to the FLESH? is that your position?
I am saying One lives Righteously ONLY BY Obeying The Laws of God which when done properly and Truthfully, shall further make you Dead to the flesh and in the flesh!
Christianity Etc › Re: The Love For God VS The Love Of God by Dtruthspeaker: 12:23pm On Apr 12, 2021
Thattallgirl:
They know His law even though they've not heard it. So how? Cos don't they teach law back then? How did they know it without hearing it?
Now we are getting way out of the issue.

Thattallgirl:
So you believe if we have a change of mind by the Spirit, there's no way we can still fail?
Yes! And my fastest answer comes from Kirk Franklin's song where the Spirit is

"Where the Spirit of the Lord is
There is liberty
Where the Spirit of the Lord is
The captives are set free
The wounded are made whole
I'll find rest for my soul

Where the Spirit is
There is liberty"

Remember The Law "By their Fruit ye shall know them"? Thus,

But the fruit of the Spirit is [b]love, joy, peace, Longsuffering, gentleness, Goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance[/b]: AGAINST SUCH THERE IS NO LAW. Legal Interpretation, (There is No law which says that you should not do these things, NEITHER can there be Any) Galatians 5:22-23

So as you can see, there is No Failure or Mistake provided here or Any where The Spirit of The Lord is! None at All!

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