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TheSourcerer:
I believe the question is upside down .

Are you subject to the laws of your car or phone or laptop?

No and never, thus, your belief is Untrue!

Calling to All Strong and Knowledgeable Followers and Lovers of God, SatanReed and his group of Antichrists have fled to do their work of swallowing up gullible souls in the Education Section of Nairaland

Their evil work should be and must be stopped and destroyed!

Therefore, I am humbly calling on all the lovers of God and Children of Righteousness, to come over and let us Tear the the-evils kingdom down before they destroy the souls of those tender young ones seeking knowledge and Truth in Education Section.

Calling Jeausngr, Righteousnes89, Truespeak, KNOWMORE forgive me if I did not call just needed to let you guys know where the-evil is now playing Anaconda!

LordReed:
It's a dilemma especially for the god believers. If the god is a able to over the physical laws of nature then it's hard to defend what it wants from humans who are less capable. On the other hand if the god is unable to do so, then the prestige of the god is diminished. Either way presents a dilemma.

There is no dilemma only Power and Right of Creator to do that which pleases Him with his creations.

TheSourcerer:
okay ..... Divine wisdom still follows or defy physics . is God Subjected to physic , or rather is YHWH ALLAH ODIN ,OGUN are subjected to physics to prove they exist!
I assert they do.

A Creator is Always Above The Laws that tie down the creation, therefore he can never be subject to it just as you can not be subject to the laws of your phone!

TheSourcerer:
He walked on water. (Matthew 14 22-23 )
He flew to space (without a helment )(.(john 6 :32 ,and the whole of revelation really)

So as to Show us that he is indeed The Creator and God of this world for Every Creator is Always Outside the things He creates!

TheSourcerer:
you read me wrong smh
2+ 2 = 1 this is your truth , nobody convincing thus guy in what he believes its the truth about the subject

2+2 =4 Fact !
There is in fact no God!

Sorry do not give me what is not mine for 2+2=1 does not belong to me and I made no claim on it.

TheSourcerer:
they made the money and got away safely? Good they survived. Then there is no bad or good here

See the kind of evil mind you have? If you were the robbed would you Truly tell them "bye-bye, come again next time or wish them dead?.We already know the True Answer so no bother.

Evil has been done to the robbed here

Now, they were caught and the driver said that he was not a member of the gang so he should not be guilty of Armed robbery.

Now evil has also been done to the driver, who one of the robbers later admitted and confessed that the dr9 was Truly not part of their gang!

TheSourcerer:
nature has proven the existence of Gid ?! Wow sir! I am not impressed by that assertion .

Not a problem, for It is Already Proven Beyond Debate that AS SEEN IN THIS WORLD and not Outside this world for we do not know much of anything outside this world.

But Presently in this world, The Truth which is SEEN is that "Everything created is Always created by Another thing which is different from it eg Ants and their anthills, birds and their nests, man and his toys!

TheSourcerer:
wicked is a bad word ,
People are wicked when caught
People make bad choices , no bad wicked human.
We define wicked.
Hope you're having a great day?

I am in business of dealing with bad choices and wickedness.

Following a wicked person to commit an offence is and may be bad choice for the Follower But The Doer of the Offence intended to do the offence.

Let me give you a real case.

A driver used his ogas vehicle for kabu-Kabu (cab) and picked up persons whose destination was a store which they robbed and used him for a getaway vehicle.

Surely the robbers are guilty for robbery while the driver is guilty of "bad choice of Association"!

TheSourcerer:
Facts .
Life is a mistake , death rectifys this .

Nope, Life was Good, Wickedness Destroyed the Goodness

Now we need another Life that is Good, which God has now promised that the Control of it shall Permanently remain in His Hand and No man shall have Any Authority Again, forever and ever!

budaatum:
You stick knives in the backs of those you love?..

In the Back? Never!

in their faces, shall I cut down ALL who hath pleasure in wickedness, doers of wicked and evil things, Liars, Deceivers and Unrighteous persons!

For The Law is on the Doing of Good and the Killing of All Evil to wit-

He that pursueth evil, pursueth it to his own death

The Soul that Sinneth Shall (and Must) Die!.

the face of the LORD (Law'd) is against those who do evil, to blot out their name from the earth

budaatum:
The person who wrote what you are about to read below is a definitely going to heaven Christian. But do not take my word for it for by his fruits you can surely hell.

everyone is allowed access to heaven and satansons are one of the most proficient visitors and users of it than ordinary regular folk, which is why you and all who think and say that you are going to heaven are already in ERROR, EXACTLY LIKE WRITING ESSAY IN A PHYSICS EXAM!

The Place to be is The Exclusive Kingdom of God with a New Heaven and A New Earth and A New Man. All these things that we know will be wiped out completely and permanently!

Now, be Truthful, shall he who said these wicked and false Accusations Against The Owner of The House, that is to come?

LordReed:
... he is the most immoral being in existence because he doesn't even follow his own rules.

LordReed:
...Your god according to your bible, lies or uses deception, he kills, he fornicated, he watches people having sex (porn), he doesn’t care about people starving or suffering even though he has the power to prevent or end it (not in the Bible per se, more of an inference from human experience), etc. These and more show that if your god exists, he is immoral or maybe amoral.

Shall such a false and very Unreasonable Accuser enter?

I think you know the True Answer Already!

budaatum:
Oh, look. You've added buda lol...

I do love them but neither do we bear the sword, Shield, amour and helmet for decoration!

budaatum:
This just shows how little understanding you have. Please tell me, are you not a lawyer? Do they not teach the 'History of Law' as part of the course anymore?

Common wiki will teach you if you can not be bothered to read a book, so there really is no justification for this ignorance!

I am Very Much Joyful that I am in My Natural Habitat of Law and being in my habitat I know even more than wiki can teach. I even went back to challenge my former Lectures of Law and they All Fled before me and bowed to Greater Knowledge.

I have found The True Origins and History of Law and NO ONE CAN REASONABLY, FAIRLY AND RIGHTLY FIND ANY FAULT TO THEM,

I AM SO CONFIDENT THAT I PUT THE SUM OF N10,000. to anyone who can reasonably and fairly and Justly take me down with no cheats, change of posts and all the rules of fair argument. (Offer ends at 6pm 26/03/2021)

So attacking me personally (ad hominem) instead of the rightness or wrongness of my assertion laid before you is not A VALID REBUTTAL.

FIND ANOTHER VALID WAY IF YOU CAN!

Next person!

Pelecius:
Thanks

First of all, making distinction between GOOD and BAD could be vague. One will have to ask, who defines what is GOOD or what is BAD? That is, what do we call GOOD?
Secondly, who decides that a certain BEHAVIOUR is GOOD or BAD?
Mind you, since you seem to be in the atheism camp, it'll be great if your answers are consistent with an atheistic WORLDVIEW

The answers for those above would determine if we can talk about HUMAN WELL BEING even in an atheistic worldview.

Thanks for being nice

Watch Out Pelecius, the guy you are talking to is Truly a Snake as The Original LortReed in Game of Thrones, He Is A Satanist and A Hater of God not an atheist.

He is Nairaland's Satan come to devour and swallow up the souls of foolish people who taught they were wise eg CAPSLOCKED, Budaatum, even Muttleylaff at a point and many others who no longer speak on nairaland.

He fled from Religion Section were his work has been destroyed to come over here to catch foolish souls who do not know The Truth and Law of Life and Death but think they do.

You would be well advised to stay of from him for sake of yourself and your soul, if you love yourself.

He is very very knowledgeable and very intelligent,Twisty and Beautifully Winding with words and spirit (evil spirit that is, and if you do not know spirits already, you are dead prey already), as A Snake,

He would swallow you up (as one) if you do not take counsel and stay away from him,.

He is only reasonable when he can beat you, but grounded lying and cheating is always in his hand to use when and where necessary, and he accurately uses it too.

If you do not hold your life, he will eat you up as he has done others here that's what he is here in this Section for!

You already know the popular warning "Fly wey no dey hear word"

LordReed:
Don't be a dummy this early morning. I'm speaking as if the god was real not as if I believe that to be true. If you want to continue being a dummy then kindly Bleep off, I will not entertain your stupidity this time around.

And He was so real that you PRE-JUDGEDLY HATE Him, without affording Him a Fair Trial, shows how unfair and unreasonable a man that you are, "In Judging a Person without the benefit of a Fair Trial!"

Stop hiding in the darkness, declare it and be proud of it, that you are A True Hater of God, even if God has Good and Justified Reasons, you will never alter your view.

Which is why you chose and adopted the name of Evil Personified, seen in the Movie Game of Thrones as your moniker, for you love him and his ways which clearly and undoubtedly means that you love all things evil like him and Satan.

And like Satan, you both Hate God beyond every good and just reason.

Therefore, you are A Satan-son!

And if I see you acting as though you are a reasonable man to any audience other than your usual company, do take notice that I would be coming to interject to them that you are Satanist/ Satanson!

For I have reasonably engaged you in several threads Reasonably Proving to you That God is Blameless and Righteous which you could not rebut but still, you go on Accusing Him Unjustly and Wickedly, Exactly as Satan Does!

So you either raise your banners of Satan-ness since people appear to foolishly forget who LortReed is AND ARE DECEIVED BY THE APPEARANCE OF YOUR CALM REASONABLE DISPOSITION or I will cause you to reveal yourself!

IMAliyu:
Laws on the other hand are a set of rules created and enforced by people, because guess what? When you have a large number of people living together they need to create a bunch of rules for how to behave towards each other and punishment for who ever breaks that agreement, to maintain a sense of fairness and calm, because the only other option is anarchy and constant fighting...

And this is Another Truth you did not know (I too, until I started examining and following the leads already on ground), Law Came Before Man, therefore, even a man living on his own is Already Under Law eg The Law of Eating and Drinking, The Law of Sleeping and Working, The Law of Joy and Sorrow, The Law of Pleasure and Pain, The Law of Life and Death!

It is based on these Greater Laws that he relates with other men and Because of These Laws especially The Law of Life and Death, he negotiated an agreement between himself and his neighbour so that they do not harm each (since both of you can harm yourselves in line with The Law of Life and Death) which you erroneously think is the only law in force.

Which is why you are again wrong for there is The Greater Law which No Man Made, Which rather is The Maker of man, To Wit- "Let the man be made!"

Where the Bible puts it as "Let us Make man" Exactly as we say "let us make a flying car"!

IMAliyu:
I'd like to know what I said to lead you to that rationale?

"You are equating God and law?"
God as I understand it is the abstraction for all things outside human capabilities."

Good! You got my view! For this was your True and little opinion when The Sourcerer asked

"TheSourcerer:
Let's say if we eventually get convinced of the non existence of satan or and God , what then will be your purpose in life ? How would it change you?

And you IMAliyu answered

"I've ran the mental experiment.

Nothing changes really.

Life goes on, man must still survive, find ways to be good, take care of family etc.

It's like of what consequence is it if I choose to believe that unicorns exist? Me believing or being convinced of there existence, doesn't change how I should act in the world or treat people, at least based on my personal philosophy.

That's why I've humbled my self for this religion matter, though I continue to practice."

what you did not know.was that if there is No God, there would be No Laws, Exactly as when Daddy or Principal has Traveled, the Children Do whatever they like!

LordReed:
I am an atheist so I don't know where or when we settled anything about a god's existence.

Your god according to your bible, lies or uses deception, he kills, he fornicated, he watches people having sex (porn), he doesn’t care about people starving or suffering even though he has the power to prevent or end it (not in the Bible per se, more of an inference from human experience), etc. These and more show that if your god exists, he is immoral or maybe amoral.

Even your Paragraph Stands Against You and Betrays You saying you are not an atheist for see how quick and short your claim is, compared to your Lengthy and Very Emotional and Passionate allegation against A Person who you say does not exist.

It is not possible for anyone to hate what does not exist. HATRED ALWAYS COMES FROM DIRECT AND PERSONAL CONNECTION WITH A THING IN EXISTENCE eg hatred for Snakes, Buhari, height, darkness etc.


So your words Show and SAY YOU ARE A LIAR for you Already know personally that God Exists!

Further Your passion indicates very high and unreasonable levels of hatred for God and even after I have severally shown you the reasonableness of His Conduct and you could not offer any reasonable counter, you have still Refused to drop the False Accusations which is what ONLY a Satanist Does and Must Do.

So there you are, even your own words and passions call you A Liar!

So seeing all these past engagements that you can never be reasonable on the matters of God, you are an Unreasonable Unwavering Hater of God, As your Passions and Traditions Have Betrayed you!

LordReed:
Morality is principles concerning the distinction between right and wrong or good and bad behaviour.

The basis of my Morality is human wellbeing, I measure morality by the effect it has on human wellbeing.

Morality is that which is Good and Right including The Laws in Furtherance of Good and Right.

It is not a distinction or separation, it is A Clear Position or Stand or House or Ground of Right and Good.

The measurement of Morality is Seen when a Right and Good subject matter is applied to a person, whether in truth he shall embrace it like a Soft teddy bear or whether he shall flee from it in rejection as one which bringeth a red hot knife to the skin!

LordReed:
If you can't point out the lie or deception then kindly Bleep off. I have no time to devote to your inanities.

First in saying "If your god exists" even after I have settled this with you previously

Secondly, in Falsely Accusing Him of immorality in saying "then he is the most immoral being in existence" when He has Never done one Wrong ever, which I have also settled and pointed out to you.

Thirdly you Falsely Accuse Him of being immoral and not Following His Laws in saying "he is the most immoral being because he doesn't even follow his own rules" where you could never Truly find any one time that He Did Something Not Consistent with His Reasonable Rights Exactly as you do.

IMAliyu:
At the bolded that's your own personal view, isn't it?

No, just the resultant analysis of your answer!

IMAliyu:
Meaning comes from the internal story we tell ourselves.
If you believe you are and act as a waste, useless and unprofitable person. Then you are.

At the bolded, where a hungry man tells himself that he is had a Feast and is Filled, so he does not need food, is this Valid and TRUE?

A person who carries out the his plan of being useless will Guaranteedly Achieve it!

IMAliyu:
If you choose to be productive with your life by working and taking care of family as an example, and live by the philosophy "do to others what you would like be done to you", then wouldn't the optimal/logical choice be to be good or at least avoid causing more harm and suffering in the world?

Nah, you did not know the far reaching implication of the Ops Post which also includes No God, No Law.

No Law, therefore you and everyone else can do whatever you have power to do, therefore the question why do something when you can also do nothing?

And what would be your reason for doing that thing most especially as you know that others can do something in direct opposition of your act. Eg you want to eat but your wife delights in throwing your food away, oya, solve it!

TheSourcerer:
call me main streamed , close minded , but religion again is a con word , in fact a weapon of mass mental destruction and manipulation throughout history , no matter what a dictionary says dear budda

The peoples of this world before you were born have already put their deceit and manipulation in place into EVERYTHING.

From your family to your school to your neighbours and friends workers and co-workers, course of study and education, they are all injected with Lies and Deceits.

I say as soon as a baby is born he is giving injections of Wickedness, Lies and Deceit.

TheSourcerer:
or has no power at all.

Or He is just Silently Watching to see if man shall limit and stop himself from proceeding into the depths and depths of decay while still complaining about the decay, and climb right up back to the land surface.

IMAliyu:
I've ran the mental experiment.

Nothing changes really.

Life goes on, man must still survive, find ways to be good, take care of family etc.

Then why choose to do good or do anything at all? After all your existence is a waste, useless and unprofitable.

TheSourcerer:
sadly satanists (Satan worshippers are not welcomed at all in these region 21st century)

Wickedness and lovers of wickedness are generally not welcomed anywhere in any century.

Even wicked people do not truly want wicked people near them!

TheSourcerer:
Dtruthspeaker I suspect your moniker may be bred from seeking truth , which of course may again not be the case but know there is clear line brteween truth and fact
It is your truth to decide 2 +2 = 1 who are we to deny that . it is your truth
But the fact is 2 +2 =4
Jesus is Lord is truth yes
Allah is the only God yes this is truth
But the fact it there is no God god or dieties.

Truth is Always Naturally Provable for it is Always Naturally Evidenced!

Hence there is No Evidence for.2 + 2= 1 therefore, I do not subscribe to it, (same for Square Root i add)

But the Truth of 2+2= 4 for it is Proven by Nature itself!

And Nature has already Proven the Existence of God and even you, in the past, waa stopped when I Prove it to you and you could not reasonably rebut or offer up any valid counter!

TheSourcerer:
too long , God is undesiring of a title worthy to form a group .
Though we are tagged Atheists, Unbelievers ,Satanists (who are just a mockery of christiaindom by the way )
I prefer a freethinker , yes .

Too long? A statement containing 5 words is longer than your header containing 17 Worda?

Wonderful reasoning 5 is more than 17!

True Atheists have always maintained that they truly do not Hate God which is where and why they are different from Satanist.

For Satanist Clearly, Unabashedly and Insanely Hate God!

TheSourcerer:
hell yeah to consume and be consumed . and ensure the gene moves up the next generation .

Please op eh, change your header to party for haters of God!

LordReed:
If your god exists then he is the most immoral being in existence because he doesn't even follow his own rules.

Is there no end to your lies and Untrue Accusations?

Even if it was proclaimed by God that Scoffers and Liars would rise up in the last days of this world, must it be you?

Even after putting down all your lies and accusations until the point you had no further reasonable issue, you still go about laying again your former lies and Accusations?

How would it not be right to call you the son of Satan the Father of All Lars?

The you would cry now that I have insulted you meanwhile you have First Insulted Another, Who is Too Big as to stoop so low to defend Himself before His creation, just like you going to explain yourself to your phone or car, what madness that is!

If you guys do not want those who believe in God put a Clear Notification that this is A Party for the gathering of Haters of God, so that we can all stay away and only interested parties should be in attendance!