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FatherOfJesus:
Science does not have an anti-God bias. Remember, science depends on observation. Can one observe God?

I have answered you before and you could not offer any reasonable counter, for we can and yet can not Observe He Whom we call God, because a Creator is Always Separate and Distinct from His creation.

Your phone, torch car can only know some of you when you come close to them and touch them.

When you go away,. that's all, no further information!

For that is what it means to be A Creator and the creation, a creation,

FatherOfJesus:
Most religions of the world see science as a threat to their faith. Science depends on observation, data, asking questions, not assuming the answers in advance. So we test, we test again.

I am certain that you do not know that Science means "To Know" or "To Learn"!

Thus, it is about the acquisition of information of and about things in Nature!

But the observers of these started telling Lies by using The Truth to lie eg after teaching us the Truth of 1 + 1 and all the other Truths then they snuck in "Square Root" and thus when I ask what is the Square root of 7 or 3, they can not answer Naturally and Truthfully anymore.

FatherOfJesus:
Most religions of the world see science as a threat to their faith. Science depends on observation, .

That is why this thread is very important!

https://www.nairaland.com/6479051/why-did-white-man-bring#100249726

For all men have been deceived and the deception is quite very successful.

The Only Truth that is True is that which is seen and experienced in Nature!

Ilamina:
Even jesus

Is a son of a carpenter

David kept his father's flock, same as Isaac and Jacob.

Under The Law "Whatever thy hand findeth to do"

And "All labour, is good"

Ilamina:
Did the people in the bible even go to the school

They had Pure Natural Education which is not confined to what we call "School Environment"

Nature was their School and Nature was their Teacher!

To Destroy Us by cutting Us off from our Creator as they have done so that we could join their numbers to plan and execute an attack on Our Creator! (What foolishness, exactly like a Torch or phone or car planning an Attack on you! Hmmph! ,

To Deceive Us, Steal from Us our goods and belongings with our consent and permissions and we even bless and thank them for taking our things how funny! eg Banks and "Money"!

To Prevent Us from Knowing and Discovering that our Creator Empowers and Strengthens Us to Kill All Evil Persons while He has weakened them because they do wickedness and evil

As you can see, their plans is largely successful!

Many are deceived and know not The Truth, many are impoverished because they have foolishly given out their Natural Property and Gifts Given by God to Thieves simply because they Lied to them saying "the law said so" when The Law Never Said So.

And unfortunately many still do not know that they are labouring under these deceptions and Lies which is why they do not prosper and shall never prosper, for these wicked peoples have Secured and Guaranteed your poverty!

HellVictorinho:
A thief calling another person a thief.
You have not apologised for accusing me of not understanding English.

When we see a man wearing a suit sitting and eating in a dump site, that is a mad man!

Same as a Dada-Wiry haired head with broken brown teeth sitting in an office!

HellVictorinho:
Owing to pride, you ascribe understanding to yourself like budaatum and accuse others of lacking it.
You are filled with corruption.
You have lied but you deny it and expect me to not address your lie.
You're saying I am diverting because you don't want to accept that you are a liar.

hahaha
I do not "ascribe understanding to myself" I lay it down and none can validly rebut!

HellVictorinho:
You are a liar that denies that he lies.
I have told budaatum to expect what she gives.
If she says I'm lazy, I'll say she's lazy.
If she says I don't understand,I'll say the same.
That's what you and her deserve.

Kai! You have still not discerned that budaatum is a "He" neither did you know it

Now I am certain you are still a teenager, still yet to know many things you are supposed to know, No Wonder your target guiding system is not effective for you have none!

And the Too Much Fault Codes!

So, I give you askor!

HellVictorinho:
He is accusing you of having what you lack.
Dtruthspeaker accused me of not understanding English.
Ihedinobi3 did something and denied doing it.
They are all scammers.
They lie to you but they expect you to accept it as the truth.

You- Vehicle has Too Many Fault and Error Codes,

It misfires, overfires, blows fuses, burns bulbs brakes and quenches, accelerates on its own, starts on its own, quenches on its own, sluggish movement, too much rattlings and batterings, out of alignment, engine.revs wildly, men this vehicle is meant for the Fire!

truespeak:
Ha! I just see various and severe sparks all over the place kpa-kpoo, kakaa-kpakpo, katakata-booom!

This is Serious ooo!

hee hee hee

HellVictorinho:
So, it's your question.
I thought it was the Dtruthspeaker that asked me.
I don't answer stupid questions by people like Dtruthspeaker..

See, your soul needs Complete Replacement, like a bad ECU and transmission, it is irreparable!

So Park yourself at home, for you are completely damaged and irreparably damaged and A Danger to the Society and you do not really care about yourself, so no need to include you!

HellVictorinho:
budaatum also accuses people that condemn the Bible of not understanding English.
Then she denies it before accusing them of being lazy.
You belong to the group of Bible Defenders.
But your defense is ridiculous.
Ihedinobi3 is another Bible Defender who also makes baseless comparisons.
There's one that calls me a beggar in defense of the Bible too.
But Hell will still condemn the Bible because you guys can only accuse.
You guys can't determine why I shouldn't condemn the Bible.
I hereby sentence the Bible to eternal condemnation since its defenders have failed to state any reason why I shouldn't do so.

There you go,.being a missile flying wildly and out of control and OF TARGET, exploding mid air, hitting nothing! Even your falling.debris could not harm a snail.

First, veering Off Topic is not a Valid Counter!

Secondly, when will you learn, that when you say foul, Back it Up with Authentic Established Fact, (AEF). for it to be Valid?

Thirdly, Making allegationis is not a valid counter!,

In the end you have said Nothing only made empty allegations requiring proof.

But I understand, A Bitter man has much grief and always speaks from great pain!

HellVictorinho:
The Bible has similar crap.
Examples:
1....Love your neighbor (even when he or she will rather watch you die than spend 1/10000 of what he or she has to save you).
2......Pray without ceasing (even when prayers never work).
Ultimately, life is absurd.

it's a terrible thing to not understand!

1. Love your neighbour (even when he or she will rather watch you die..) why,?

So that you remain guiltless while he retains his guilt, if not 2 Wrongs make 2 Guilty Souls not the lie which the world teaches saying 2 wrongs make a right! What a lie.as many have seen.

2 "Pray without ceasing!" Prayer properly done takes you to heaven, heaven you'll rather be for all the evils are on earth while all the good things you are looking for are within reach in heaven. Thus, pray without ceasing means live in heaven, and abandon the earth.

Heaven means "spirit"!

He that hath no rule over his own spirit is like a city that is broken down, and without walls.

Life is Very Sweet and Pleasant for he who getteth wisdom and understanding and knowledge!

TheSourcerer:
5 You cannot prove the existence of the Devil

I can show the Proof of this one for we have seen him .. and her.

His name is...

And her name was..

Let me check their names tomorrow!

HellVictorinho:
1+5=786
Do you understand the above?
That's how the Bible is.
An understanding of failure is different from a failure to understand.
Stop accusing humanity falsely!!!!!

That is not True and no where did the Bible ever present such a calculation, it is you who has falsely accused the Bible!

sonmvayina:
... YHWH does state over and over in his word that He alone is our Savior...So He is the only one who saves and provides eternal life, not the messiah? That seems to be what His word says when we are looking only at the Tanakh and NOT at the new testament...A lot to think and pray about.
What do you guys think?

Simplest shortest statement "If you love me, keep my commandments" and TWICE Did He Say It!

What people wrongly call old testament say "he that keepeth The Law, happy is he!"

The First mistake is does sin belong to man?

When a man offends his fellow man surely the mode of cancellation and remedy for the offence must come from he who is offended.

So also when a creation offends its Creation, the remedy of it always lays at the instance and pleasure of the Offended Creator!

And The Law of the wedding at Cana is Good Law To Wit -"Do Whatever He Tells you to do"! (If you like yourself)

TheSourcerer:
do I smash my windscreen for been untidy? (Sodom and gomoroa etc)

surely it is because you can not make or easily repurchase a car or the windscreen but that is not a problem for Mr Toyota as you can already see many of his creations are destroyed during tests and even for entertainment purposes eg movies and stunts.

But for your level let's take a torch that does not work properly or at all, you Certainly Smashed it and Dashed it into a thousand pieces!

Or as reported one footballer did that early this year or late last year, he Smashed his Super car because he was angry with it! Yeah, that's what it means to be a Creator!

THIS THREAD TOO HAS RELOCATED!

truespeak:


Word Nicodemus
Present tense Nicodemusing
Past tense Nicodemused

hahaha!

Plural- Nicodemuses!

See oh, OP THIEF HAS RELOCATED THIS THREAD FROM EDUCATION SECTION BACK TO RELIGIOUS SECTION AFTER My call!!!

So that is possible eh? Ok

keppler:
Like you said, I joined because I see how wannabe atheists misuse the word "science" in contrasting science from religion. And I notice that many Christian folks are not thoroughly informed in such war of worldviews, hence they resort to ill informed arguments. This in turn raises the suspicion that the atheists were right all along when they are actually wrong in many cases and their use of logical fallacies and intentional deception, with few folks (such as Grandmeister, Image, Papparseventy. etc) to expose such tactics.

Keep up the good fight as you put 2 Cor 10: 4 in to action.
God be with you

Thank you for your encouraging words, may The Lord continue to give us His Strength to tear the-evils kingdom down!

budaatum:
Good. Now provide evidence for the above assertion of your's please, because, as a lawyer you must know that just stating something does not make it so.

The Law of "He who alleges must prove" !, I already did that but you chose not to see it, so I am happy to duplicate what I said earlier which sent you into disarray!

"Law Came Before Man, therefore, even a man living on his own is Already Under Law[b] eg The Law of Eating and Drinking, The Law of Sleeping and Working, The Law of Joy and Sorrow, The Law of Pleasure and Pain, The Law of Life and Death![/b]

Man shall eat herbs and meat not stone and wood; man shall not live under water as though he was a fish, The man with womb shall bear the child in her belly and not the man without womb!

No Man made any of these laws and neither could he make them!

It is based on these Greater Laws that he relates with other men and Because of These Laws especially The Law of Life and Death, he negotiated an agreement between himself and his neighbour so that they do not harm each (since both of you can harm yourselves in line with The Law of Life and Death) which you erroneously think is the only law in force.

Which is why you are again wrong for there is The Greater Law which No Man Made, Which rather is The Maker of the man, To Wit- "Let the man be made!"

Where the Bible puts it as "Let us Make man" Exactly as we say "let us make a flying car"!

budaatum:
You've presented nothing to show laws are not man made or that they came from Gods.

You can simply quote yourself if you have.

hahaha you want to change your line of counter by feigning lack of knowledge! you will still not have any valid counter for this is where your attempt at objecting began as an Extract from my Fuller Statement to IMAliyu

Dtruthspeaker:
what you did not know.was that if there is No God, there would be No Laws,

budaatum:
This just shows how little understanding you have. Please tell me, are you not a lawyer? Do they not teach the 'History of Law' as part of the course anymore?

Common wiki will teach you if you can not be bothered to read a book, so there really is no justification for this ignorance!
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Oya, take another route and see if you would still be able to come up with a valid counter!

Pelecius:
I sincerely appreciate your concern and love. To a small extent, I'm a battle scared fellow in this type of worldview war. And my aim is not to win (as that's the work of the Holy Spirit), but to ensure that others are not taken away when there seem not to be an answer for the reason of the hope we have in us (1 Peter 3:15)

He is one of the reasons why I joined Nairaland for I prefer face to face engagement so I did not know about nairaland till I saw my colleagues using it for their cars and other problems, only for me to go round up to Religion Section then I saw his damage and slaughter there.

And I saw people who had earlier resisted him, Fall!

So I jumped in and I live to spoil all his wicked works and prevent him from swallowing up any unwatchful soul!

He is Satan in the flesh. If a person wants to see Satan, all they need is to see him and read his posts!

budaatum:
...tttb

That's my Favourite Law!

budaatum:
And by the way, its a bit too late for you to be crying that you are being attacked personally when almost every contribution of your's to this thread has been personal attacks. If you can't take it consider not first dishing it out.

without a valid attack of a claim or position, you have done nothing.

budaatum:
Sorry Dt, but you really do know nothing about the History of Law,

Yet I have presented it and you are unable to shake it, not to talk of even finding a fault as a result of your testing!

budaatum:
..because no credible teaching will inform you that laws were made by Gods

Ever since I discovered many things Contained in Many a Law books which lawyers ought to have been taught but were concealed, I always go digging to uncover and discover all and what things are hidden from my sight!

budaatum:
despite that being what the masses the laws are imposed on are made to believe. And if you do not know something as simple as that which you ought to have learnt as part of your legal education, then I can't exactly pressume you'd know anything at all, especially since your fruits do not even at all match your words.

Attacking the man rather than the assertion IS NO REASONABLE REBUTTAL! And clearly, you have searched on how to reasonably rebut but alas, you find none!

Rest and let another person try!

budaatum:
Will one be standing at the gate with The Owner of The House judging who shall enter?

Is it not written that one should mind one's own forest instead of anothers mote?

Will you enter dt or will you be gnashing your teeth?

It is because He is Standing by me and I see His Anger therefore I am warning and crying out Wow Is Coming! Wow is Coming!

Any who is not The True Friend of The Lord Shall be found Guilty by Law and shall be Condemned to a horrible horrible dying!

truespeak:


I was not aware the party has relocated from its previously known venue (Religion) to this ground

See midnight change of venue

Thanks for the invite

A Nicodemusing!

TheSourcerer:
and man is special because........? It was breathed in the breathe of life?
Haha mice breathes the same air I do.the same you do...

Man is special because His Creator says and treats him special just as you treat your car specially if you want!

truespeak:
See how you Contradict and Oppose yourself?

You say "have to follow or defy"

The two cancel out themselves!

For if you follow, you cannot be said to have defied and if you defy, you have not followed, thus you have cancelled out yourself and your question!

Therefore I can not be reasonably expected to answer that which you have verily cancelled and killed from the beginning!

Next living question please!

his processor is contaminated!