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Jashub:
You speak like one who is devoid of wisdom. Let me give you an analogy : soap is the most common thing in the world, yet there are people who are dirty. But does that mean there is no soap? No. It simply means there are people who still want to be dirty and that boils down to choice.

Your choice to accept God and live a sinless life is a personal choice and God will not force you.

He is one of Nairaland Satanist so he must be absent and void of many basic things.

He is not a normal person and you Know God Specially Cursed them with more abnormalities in these last days which is what you see on display!

geoworldedu:
God is a big-time failure. Sending his son to die for the sins of the world but since continued like ever before. What a monumental failure.

It's you who is the failure, for I got all the things His Son Brought and Gave!

And because of the rapture which is The Separation, So Those Who are For The Lord and His Own have been Taken and put on One Side.

Thus, you and all your kind are On the Other Side which is what you see and Stupidly Called a failure.

You do not know that what the Germans did to the Jews as Prophecied, is been done unto you, even before your eyes AND YOU KNEW IT NOT!

Oh, God is Too Much, He Moves and you would not still see it or know it!

Oh, how unwise to make Him your enemy! You will surely be dead while still standing on your feet flexing for battle!

blazepascal:
yes.. the same question again why didn't God destroy Satan .well ..I felt he should have destroyed satan and the other other demons that rebelled against him but rather God chased them out of heaven if he had destroyed Satan then there would be no need of creating hell...

And the same answer is given "So as to catch all the would-be's Satans and Satan-sons and Santan-as, to Destroy All of them in and with One Single Process!

GeneralDae:
Then why do you still need the entire law? what is in the law that christ has not given us?

Have you abandoned your position?

"...but for me I am okay with the golden rule and the teachings of christ. I don't think I need the laws of Moses to serve God."

For I wanted to show you based on whatever Rule or Teaching you may raise which you erroneously attach to Christ, its equivalent Pronouncemet of Law.

So it needs be cleared that you have a abandoned your ground of Christ Teachings being Different from The Law, then I can proceed to answer the question up above which you posed.

So have you abandoned your "but for me I am okay with the golden rule and the teachings of christ. I don't think I need the laws of Moses to serve God." position?

keppler:
Therefore, I share your last statement (as advised by Dtruthspeaker earlier) that "you are not worth having a conversation"

He and his kind like being as ghosts, floating all over the face of the earth meanwhile, they are earth-men or ground-men and they start as one or represent that they are one.

But when they see that there falls-ground has been broken or shall be broken, they refuse to stand as earth man as they have represented but rather Transform into "ghosts" flee from their ground and completely abandoning it as though it was never their land and quickly scooting away into other places.

Evil spirits are they Truly and not earth-men!

IMAliyu:
Fair enough.

However I was looking at it from an individual level.

I understand, but the error here is, you are not the only one in the world so the consideration of the actions of others in that world can not and should not be dispensed with, which you have taken cognisance and shapened your view.

And on this china example view, I can not proceed because I prefer to deal only True Realities than fabricated ones.

IMAliyu:
Another thought. We wouldn't really need legislatures, courts, judges, and police if God was enforcing his laws on us, in this world would we?
(Just to clarify laws here mean, does and don'ts, and not physical laws like eg. Electromagnetism)

He has been enforcing it not like the old times but a different type and still much better than any Law Enforcement in the world and it is still been enforced even today and I can show you if you may want a peek at it!

sonmvayina:
You remember one of our old nursery school rhyme those times..

Row row row your boat gently down the stream. Merrily merrily merrily...life is but a DREAM


This life is a dream, the real life starts when we join our ancestors...(the spirit world)

Wake up Dtruthspeaker..You are the one who has been lead astray..

Aha! , first this above, then this below?

sonmvayina:
Those things are there for a purpose....discover it...

sonmvayina:
But in those, i define the terms...but christianity..nah...

You can find The Truth if you want, which is why I Cut Down Anything and All those things which are not True in Natural Living!

sonmvayina:
Religion is a scam no doubt...it comes from the root word meaning mind control. Religions like christianity and islam where created with the sole purpose of social engineering, power and money...

It is just for the poor massess..

You still do not know that so many things in this world have mind controlled you No 1) being your Constitutions, 2) Your Schools 3) your means of livelihood

Which is why the Bible clearly said that the world has deceived all the peoples of the earth.

HellVictorinho:
You are worse than a lunatic.

Thanks for the insult!

Righteousness2:
The Photo attached will be on every News and Newspaper.

It will be
On Every Newspaper!
On Every News Station!
On Every article Headline!
On Every Radio Station!
On Nairaland!
It's Gonna be the Same News all over the World.

No news will be able to carry it for as you said, "they will mourn" while being paralyzed with fear and shock and disbelief/unbelief!

GeneralDae:
Hmm, its okay. At least you are honest and now I know you are ready to completely go back to Mosaic Law, but for me I am okay with the golden rule and the teachings of christ. I don't think I need the laws of Moses to serve God.

And all the teachings of Christ are the Instructions of The Law, if you doubt raise up any Teaching of The Lord and See if I would not raise out its corresponding Law!

HellVictorinho:
Accusing me of insanity doesn't mean you are sane.

First, you have just admitted that you are. Secondly, I sought public consult on the reason for your incoherentness displaying signs of insanity and thirdly, I am not the one who displayed signs of insanity in making this Unintelligible and incoherent statement

HellVictorinho:
If you think I understand, you won't talk about people that don't understand.
The rest is false.

IMAliyu:
The people you care for, you don't just stop caring for overnight.
Your sense of fairness and justice (if you had one) doesn't stop existing.
Your desire for survival doesn't end either.
And your base personality hardly ever changes.

You are making the error of looking at the hypothetical situation with the situation you know NOW, NOT TAKING INTO COGNISANCE, Those things which must consequently change because of Absence of Authority.

That is what I am bringing to your notice.

I certainly will not be who I am now for the the Settings of the World which affects my responses has changed eg imagine that people it is the behaviours of people to attack each other, I do not think family and all those things will be of value for it is only the surviving living that can have values not a dead one.

IMAliyu:
From what I'm understanding in what you are saying, is for you in the op's scenario, is you would do a complete 180°.

At the bolded: I had not yet read this part when I started answering you and you have used the words of error which I said you had in mind.

No God means, No Laws and No Laws means the Settings of this world that you KNOW NOW, will not be the same!

TheSourcerer:
a child-ish ,irrational Creator we have then , who thinks these mean jokes are funny.
( The Rona, H.I V , mosquitoes ,germs )
Basically everything is meant to kill us

Our Creator did no such thing, He did as you would reasonably do, dispose bad creations Exactly as you disposed and destroyed your toys which annoyed and vexed you!

GeneralDae:
If you are a priest, and your only daughter all of a sudden played the LovePeddler, would you burn her alive? Just answer yes or no.

After all I said, is the Answer not obviously yes?

She is Actually His Daughter, I am just her boarding school!

Also, it is my willful intention to never ever commit Adam's Mistake, Same for Moses, Saul and many others which is the mistake of choosing their fellow man or woman over, above and beyond God.

NEVER, WILL I!

GeneralDae:
Interesting! What of this one:

Leveticus 21v9 ( KJV)
And the daughter of any priest, if she profane herself by playing the LovePeddler, she profaneth her father: she shall be burnt with fire.

Daughter of A Priest of God, commiting the Offence of Whoredom! (Let this weight sink in first)

Then consider this, The Direct And God Appointed Representative of God on earth, his daughter is a Wh.ore! (Let this sink too)

I am sure, you do not know that the implication is that HOLY God's Daughter is A Wh.ore! (You know I will say let it sink so I won't say it again after now)

Therefore, God's Daughter is A wh.ore and Shall it be Allowed that God did Nothing about it?

Surely, No, For The Lord must not be put to shame, scorn and ridicule.

For, if His Daughter is a Wh.ore and He did nothing about it, then how shall He be Just and Right to Command other people's daughters to stop whoring?

So why should any wh.ore anywhere be condemned for whoring, when God's Own Daughter Wh.ores and He Did Nothing about it?

Besides being A Priest he is Also A Judge, so on what basis will be have a Right to Judge and remedy others for their own Wrong Doing, when his own Wrongdoing has not been remedied?

Now, I am sure you can see how Great and Far reaching the consequences and effects of that Law and it's failure thereof!

And The Rightness of The Law!

HellVictorinho:
If you think I understand, you won't talk about people that don't understand.
The rest is false.

Now I do not understand your response here!

Interpretation:" I think you understand, I would not talk about people that (who) do not understand."

Please, somebody, does this statement have any rational meaning or has this guy gone insane?

GeneralDae:
In my opinion, the law is not totally just concerning rape victims ( who can marry the rapist afterwards), slaves, women, etc.'

As you can see yourself, you do not understand The Law and Its Perfect and Accurate Just-Is!

GeneralDae:
Deuteronomy 22:23-24 If a man happens to meet in a town a virgin pledged to be married and he sleeps with her, you shall take both of them to the gate of that town and stone them to death—the girl because she was in a town and did not scream for help, and the man because he violated another man's wife. You must purge the evil from among you.

Understanding is the Key to unlocking the True Meanings and Interpretation of the words of the Bible.

And the Primary Understanding is (against everyone else's feeling or thinking, God CAN NOT AND NEVER COMMAND THE DOING OF A BAD THING!

If you hold this thinking in mind, all the messages in the Bible will be Settled!

Also, the Use of A Good Bible (KJV) is most Necessary

For what The Lord Clearly Commanded was
"If a damsel that is a virgin be betrothed unto an husband, (whom we call boyfriend today) and a man find her in the city, and lie with her; (Another man oh, not her boyfriend)

At this point is she not guilty of the offence of whoredom and cheating? what you people today call "a hoe, slay mama, these bitches ain't loyal?" And all those shiits!

Which boyfriend will not be happy to see that bitch killed and say that just-is has been served on her? Please do not bother lying here for our guys in romance section are witnesses)

Then ye shall bring them both out unto the gate of that city, and ye shall stone them with stones that they die; the damsel, because she cried not, being in the city (Because she did not resist and therefore she was NOT RAPED!); [Judgement 1] and the man, because he hath humbled his neighbour's wife:[Judgement 2] so thou shalt put away evil from among you.

As I said the guys in Romance Section Prove the Justness and Rightness of this Law!

And as you see No Rape Occurred!

And as you see, The Lord does not Command The Doing of Any Bad Thing!

inegbedion30210:
Well, you've managed to put a few words down... Thanks to Education.

We were communicating and transacting with our fellowmen long before what you erroneously call "Education" came!

HellVictorinho:
You are guilty of accusing me of not understanding English.
budaatum is guilty of accusing me or/and my understanding of being lazy.
The constitution is wrong if it says anything different.

First, Know this, The Constitution is A Fake and Evil Law, which I have put in my fire-place with great hatred for it and I hate that people do not see it is Fake, Powerless and Useless! Fit only to govern phones and slippers as it's subjects.

Secondly, I never accused you of "not understanding English", I said "it's a terrible thing to not understand!"

And it is a natural thing that affects every person since they were born till they depart thus, I meant know harm for I thought it was easy to understand but I still undecided that there are those who do not understand, so I said no more but simply presented the True understanding to the 2 Reasonable Questions you posed!

That's all!

Oh, so that's why you went off on me!

HellVictorinho:
You are meant to stop instead of test.
You are meant to convince.
Your defense of the Bible is meant to stop the condemnation.
You can't test what causes you to defend.

It is The Ultimate Law "if you can not Prove The Guilt of A Man, Do not Accuse him, else you, the Accuser is guilty of False and Malicious Accusations!

It is the Further Law, that Any who has not been Proven Guilty, is therefore Innocent!

And It is Against The Law To Convict a Person without A Fair and Just and Balanced Trial which is why I am Defending Innocent!

GeneralDae:
My man, jesus gave us commandments in the new testament. If we keep them, we would have fulfilled the purpose of the law. So why do you want to keep all of the law, such as stoning raped victims, having a temple to make sacrifices for sin, etc. Aren't some of these laws backward and outdated?

First The Whole Law is about doing of "The Good Alone" and The Right, No one must be willfully injured in any way and manner. Which is summed up in the words of Legal Practice as

"The Tenets of The Law are To Live Honestly, To Hurt No One and To Give To Each his Due!"

Biko, where did you come by stoning of rape victims? God can never ever command the doing of a bad thing at all please check again and please revert

HellVictorinho:
You guys can't determine why I shouldn't condemn the Bible...

Any condemnation that does not come out from Hot Tests, is a Smelly Fart and "mess"!

FatherOfJesus:
how does this provide evidence for the existence of your god?

You did not ask about the Evidence of God up here for my comment was directed at the history and change of Science

FatherOfJesus:
You just committed the fallacy of “whataboutism”, this fallacy is a form of tu quoque logical fallacy where you try to discredit an opponents proposition by charging them for hypocrisy without directly disproving their argument.

Assuming that your position about manipulation in science is right, and you see that as a hypocrisy, has that proven the existence of your god on basis of providing testable evidence? No

So you were hasty up here!

FatherOfJesus:
ok thanks, your opinion is well acknowledged.

Glad to help!

FatherOfJesus:
Whether or not I have sufficient information about the creator, it doesn’t in any way address this statement “everything must have a creator”.

Then A Nursery school student should not ask his fellow Nursery School Students about JSSCE it is not reasonable and neither can he get a True-Full Answer nor Should Any Fellow Student Come to give Lies about it, since None of them can Truly Know!

FatherOfJesus:
The purpose of argument is not to be right but to find out what is right.

It doesn’t matter what you think is right. You argue like someone who wants to be right and does not want to learn. I don’t engage in such arguments of the blind.

Not just Right Alone but Right and True like the Ground Under and Clean Healthy Water to be Drunk.

I do not care to be Right but I Need my Food and Drink Pure, Clean and Healthy. Cockroaches and Dirt renders it to be thrown in the fire.

I will never eat or drink them and I will so caution others not to eat and drink them

FatherOfJesus:
As much as I don’t believe in the existence of God doesn’t mean that I believe everything in science.

You have an unfettered power to believe that the ground under your feet is an ocean while the ocean is the sky, but when I hear it, you are going explain the Truth of it and immediately I see it, that's I will follow you to call the the ocean, sky.

Like the Americans call that glass in front of a car "Windshield", I call it "Windscreen" but we are both Clear on What The Truth is!

FatherOfJesus:
The reason for not believing in god is because there’s no evidence

I compell no man, it is after all it is your bed but if you keep your bed in your house, it would not be a subject of comment.

FatherOfJesus:
for it, people like you distort facts, deduce conclusions before providing evidence and then ignore vehemently any form of evidence against what you believe because you only want to be right irrespective of what’s right

Before a thing is consumed, it is very wise to inspect and examine it and if you have the opportunity to test it, do so for it is a fool who buys and consumes a thing that he did not properly examine.

FatherOfJesus:
I’m not in for that abeg, I would attend to other mature opponents who are interested in sharing and accepting ideas instead of wanting to be right.

I have reasonable presented the errors of your position and if you are unable to provide a valid counter neither are you able to accept the difficulty experienced in countering it, then that is not my fault, it is your burden which you have to resolve!

FatherOfJesus:
So who created the creator, since everything has to be created .

See, Over, Over-reaching!

You have not yet obtained sufficient information about your Creator, yet you still attempted to go beyond Him.

Exactly as a child who has not yet written and passed common entrance and yet he is asking about JSSCE, Every Reasonable and Responsible Parent Screams and Shouts on him saying "go and pass your Common Entrance Fool!"

FatherOfJesus:
If no one created the creator then it means it’s possible for the universe not to have a creator.
.

"If" that word if is your death for if means "Fabrications and imaginations" Not Solid Truth, meanwhile you said you you just wanted Truth, so it falls.

And clearly you are still operating and running on very old operating system, get the updated version, which is "since we did not even create ourselves how then can we know all about our maker?"

It is asking us to do the impossible!

FatherOfJesus:
Every single statement you make is one fallacy or the other. You need to learn how to avoid fallacies before arguments. It’s a waste of time engaging someone who can’t identify and avoid them.

I’m not here argue for argument sake, I’m here to learn and you obviously have nothing to teach

I have laid no fallacy because what I say is Natural True..

AND OF COURSE YOU CAN NOT ARGUE BECAUSE YOU DO NOT HAVE ANY VALID COUNTER ARGUMENT AND CAN NOT HAVE ANY!

You are trying to go beyond the limits of your capability like your phone trying to go get a Visa and escape from your hands.

You are Over-Reaching!

FatherOfJesus:
If god has to exist then there must be a testable way to measure that and that’s why I would always tilt toward atheism and believe science most of the times...

Can your torch put you in its lab or can your car pour acid on you or can your phone put you in fire or in water to test and measure you?

That is what it means to be A Creator! You are Always Above and beyond the reach of your creations just as you will NEVER SUBMIT YOURSELF TO BE EXPERIMENTED UPON BY YOUR BIRO OR PENCIL OR TOY CAR!