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truespeak:
In addition to the Defences available to the Lawyer is the Defence of Duty!

Duty to the Law and to the Court!

For Every Lawyer is Duty Bound by Law to Assist and Aid the Court in Arriving at a Just and Right Decision!

And as such, he Must Timeously and Forthwithly point out any Error or Wrong which would Interfere and Cause the Court to do a Wrong!

Further Every Lawyer is Bound to Uphold the Law even in the face of Injust-is and Wrongs with no exceptions whether to person, class or status!

For it is the Law that "the Law is No Respecter of Persons", and "All Are Equal in the Eyes of the Law" thus Any (irrespective of Position or Status or Even Judge) Who Does a Wrong, Must be Condemned for it, So is the Duty of a Lawyer to so Uphold the Law and Condemned Such a One!

It's mad oh, if Lawyers and Mr. Rights Do Not Know Rightness Fully and are rather fighting against it, how then can the ordinary man on the street, including churches, Pastors etc know about Rightness and Righteousness?

truespeak:
In addition to the Defences available to the Lawyer is the Defence of Duty!

Duty to the Law and to the Court!

For Every Lawyer is Duty Bound by Law to Assist and Aid the Court in Arriving at a Just and Right Decision!

And as such, he Must Timeously and Forthwithly point out any Error or Wrong which would Interfere and Cause the Court to do a Wrong!

Further Every Lawyer is Bound to Uphold the Law even in the face of Injust-is and Wrongs with no exceptions whether to person, class or status!

For it is the Law that "the Law is No Respecter of Persons", and "All Are Equal in the Eyes of the Law" thus Any (irrespective of Position or Status or Even Judge) Who Does a Wrong, Must be Condemned for it, So is the Duty of a Lawyer to so Uphold the Law and Condemned Such a One!

Oh ooh! Very Sweet and Right Views!

Even the Defence of Public Policy and Public Good that The Court should not be a place of Mistakes and Errors, At All!

Cc: AyakaDunukofia

AyakaDunukofia:
... Orderliness is the hallmark of Her Majesty's courts. Case laws, precedents abound on this. However, you are free to hold your opinion. Bye from me.

Aha I see now, you are still a slave of the Armed Thieves who plundered your lands and taught you to protect them.

Therefore, you do not know and neither do you want to know that Rightness and Goodness is the Honour of A Man as well as the Court.

And to do a Wrong, is not Right!

Thank you for the pleasure of your engagement!

budaatum:
You are asking buda to provide you with an image of God.

Nope, I am saying you are doing a circus performance and magic tricks being in 2 places at the same time defying The Laws of Nature!

Plus the Extra Magic Trick, you performed by taking ONLY ONE of my query, whereas, they were 2! clap, clap, clap!

AyakaDunukofia:
I want you to agree with you, but you haven't convinced me yet

I have not even started convincing you and I actually do not intend to for in online debates scarcely are losing opponents honourable in conceding loss than in physical engagement, so I really do not even try.

I just use them to test and verify the strength of my assertion to see if any can come up with a valid rebuttal!

So if an opponent is convinced, it is theirs to keep.

AyakaDunukofia:
I don't think we'd be wandering this long if you knew it. May be it's possible in your Nigeria, but could you mention a saner clime where an aggrieved party interrupted a court proceeding in his or her favour?

In Saner Climes, is the Corruption of their Judiciary at the Magnitude and Decaytude the Nigerian judiciary has sunk into?

No I do say, for I practice there also.

So as I said earlier A Righty and Goodly Conducted Person can not be Contemned but A Liar and a thief, a Fraud and a Doer of Wrongs MUST BE CONTEMNED!

[quote author=AyakaDunukofiapost=100200548]One of the seminal cases that dealt with contempt of court was Att.-Gen. v Punch Ltd [2002] UKHL 50

Again, it was ruled in that case that, “contempt of court is the established, if unfortunate, name given to the species of wrongful conduct which consists of interference with the administration of justice. It is an essential adjunct of the rule of law. Interference with the administration of justice can take many forms” Did the so called lawyer do anything different?[/quote]As I implied, "he who has done no wrong is generally beyond accusation". Thus, just as it is allowable to promptly notify the Judge of "Errors" he may be making on the Truth of Proceedings eg Dates, Times, Names, Places, Amounts etc which is of course in step with the Law that "The Court Must Do No Wrong" therefore his notification to the magistrate of an error is within The Law as The Court Must Do No Wrong if it can be Avoided.

The Counsel's further extra problem is his implied allegation of collusion which is A REASONABLE APPREHENSION because it is "Seen" upto The Level of Judicial Notice that judges are Complicit!

Thus, because he may not be able to positively prove graft, he is in trouble but if the Court were Fair, Just and Right, understanding would be afforded him!

For he has The Defence of Error of the Court, Reasonable Apprehension and Judicial Notice of Judicial Graft!

And I did notice that you did not answer the question I posed, but no problem!

...

MaxInDHouse:
So keep running away from your shadow!

Wow, how you have descended to such depths, even immaturity, such that you speak foolishness and you do not know it.

Now, you make me call you fool, for "The Shadow Follows the Object, not the other way round"

Men, this is terrible! What a Max Fall, oh MaxyDumbty!

Please stay away, we'll talk when you grow up!

budaatum:
I am convinced that Gods and Satans and heaven and hell and anything after death are figments of the imagination cooked up in the minds of some.. And even Jesus Christ might even be a fable created by Romans (though no evidence supports this position).

Is the above (God/Satan are like movies) not the opposite of the below (Lord Christ Who is God)?

budaatum:
Still, the Word is Lord, and whosoever understands what Christ taught will live fruitfully on this earth at least..

Anyway, no one lives on rolling stones!

TheSourcerer:
Let's say if we eventually get convinced of the non existence of satan or and God , what then will be your purpose in life ? How would it change you?

So the party has moved here!

Then there would be no difference between a man and a phone or car, they can simply sit down in one spot doing nothing and achieving nothing celebrating nothing just gathering dust and dirt!

MaxInDHouse:
Keep running away from your shadows! Isaiah 54:17

The Despairate and the mad are one and the same persons and to keep company with him is unreasonable.

MaxInDHouse:
As for all those soiling the name of Christ yet claiming Christians JEHOVAH will exterminate all of them after all He has separated his own by giving us a new GROUP name! Isaiah 65:15

But you have already Grouped Yourselves and Giving Yourselves A Name even long before the "grouping and naming" that is yet to come.

And your flinging of Isaiah 65:15 was laughable and pitiable, Clearly Showing Great Desperation.

You can have the last word for it is your bed and you are the layer of it, I don go.

FatherOfJesus:
If God who’s omniscience created a Lucifer who caused war and chaos in heaven out of jealousy and greed, what’s the guarantee that it won’t happen again with the kind of greedy Christians we have today who might finally make it to heaven?
Is that not an indication that envy and conflict is very possible in heaven?

No Greedy anybody whether greedy Christian or greedy Moslem or greedy naturalist or greedy pope or greedy Israelite will enter The New Territory which God intends to make for men, so no problem here for God is Separating (Rapture) All Types of Satans and Satanses and Satanas and Satanos everywhere in the world, to Cut them Out and Cut them off to become as firewood!

Just adding my own comment, I did not come for
quarrel or fight! Bye bye!

FatherOfJesus:
Evidence is not proof, get educated

Why do you continue to roll in pötö-pötö when you are not a pig?

See what Educators say, which you know already but you insist on swimming in excreta, Iyama!

Dictionary.com
1 noun
"that which tends to prove or disprove something;"

Evidence Meaning | Best 27 Definitions of Evidence

"Evidence meaning · Evidence is defined as something that gives proof or leads to a conclusion. · The definition of evidence is to show proof".

Evidence | Definition of Evidence by Merriam-Webster
"1 : a sign which shows that something exists or is true"

Please I beg you, let me not continue to see your "Shame and unclothedness" mbok, Bikô, ejô. Tufiakwa!

Usorohtheman:
Life is always balance, my brother.

As person dey fall, another person dey stand... Newton's third law

No be Newton get law e jus mouth wetin e observe!

KNOWMORE56:
[/b]"... you can not cross a river or bridge until you get to it!"[b]

Yes, before you can cross a river or bridge you must 1st get to it!

A certain bridge was described to some travellers: it is just one tiny pole lay across the river that is said to be a bridge...

Traveller A: let me get there 1st...

Traveller B: my heart is made up, I must get to my destination....

Traveller C: I will not come and go and kill myself...

Preparation for any thing we want to undertake plays good roles

Yes, but this is where another wisdom counters "Do not count your eggs before they are laid or hatched"

All you can reasonably do is prepare for the laying and the hatching!

FatherOfJesus:
You can only prove a mathematical equation, you need evidence for a claim.

See how you ridicule yourself? as a student that you are, have you still not learned that Evidence is "Proof" and means always means "Proof"?

Hence The "Proof" of Sight is Description, The "Proof" of hotness is the "Ouch" or "Burn". The "Poof" of Wetness is the soaking or presence of liquid, The "Proof" of Creator is the creation!

I am sure you know this, you are only just trying to check if your mouth still works!

Alright, we confirm, it still works!

FatherOfJesus:
You evidence is so wack that you can even conclude that the Flying Spaghetti Monster is real because of nature. FSM created everything you see.
Yeah, that’s how silly and deluded you sound

It was already obvious even before now that you did not have anything substantial to say but you just must say something, even if it is Stupid and Void of any good thinking, just to attack the messenger, since clearly you could not find fault with the message! It is you people's way when you fail and lose and are not able to supply any valid rebuttal

Just sleep, for I was not expecting any answer from you, thinking you would be mature and sensible enough to know when to shut up.

When you have something substantial some day, you could always bring it up again.

AyakaDunukofia:
There is a reason for the maxim!
The King or the court can do no wrong is a foundational principle of the Common law. IT IS DELIBERATE. And one of the factors that has defined the success of the Common law is CERTAINTY. 

There needs to be certainty not only in the law but also in the principle of the administration of justice, so said King Henry II. If a court ADMITTEDLY does wrong, it ceases to be a court and consequently loses power to hear and settle a matter. Hence the process of an APPEAL to another court.

do you know the reason? For you did not state it? (I do, but I wish to hear you if you shall say anything beyond what you learnt in school )

AyakaDunukofia:
Nope, that is why the appeal process exists. A superior court could have reviewed the point of law in contention and address it. He could have valid reasons but his action, for whatever reason(s) constituted contempt of court.

The Court Must Do No Wrong is The Absolute Law hence, errors, mistakes, untrue representations and misrepresentations when spotted, it is allowed to draw the attention of the Court to such Wrongs Immediately to Prevent the Court from doing a wrong.

And in this case it is reported that the lawyer's objection was on the basis of wrongful and untruthful representation which must not be allowed to pollute the Judgement of the Court on the basis that "A Court must do no wrong".

And not on the ground of the "lawful" opinion of the Court which he could appeal against if he thought it was Wrong.

But Untruthful Representation is a Prima-facie Wrong Ab Initio that can not be allowed in any Judgement at all!

And if it can be timeously prevented, it must be so prevented!

AyakaDunukofia:
"Contempt of court, often referred to simply as "contempt", is the offense of being disobedient to or disrespectful toward a court of law and its officers in the form of behavior that opposes or defies the authority, justice and dignity of the court".

I understand the purpose of the Contempt Law but It not contempt when a Wrong is Committed by an Authority and it is immediately pointed out to them that they have done a Wrong!

The Contempt Law is based on the fact that The Court ALWAYS DO RIGHT AND ARE BEYOND ACCUSATION OR FAULT!

But a liar, a fraud, a cheat, a thief and a corrupt person MUST BE CONTEMPTIBLE and Disdained!

KNOWMORE56:
People sometimes try to bring predestination stuff to this matter but I don't think it's applicable to our eternal abode.

This world was our First Eternal Home, but the man Blew the "Eternity" and the Home!

Thus, by the blowing thereof, 2 Different New Homes to the man shall be The Destination of the residents of this present House.

Therefore, good reason suggest that you can not cross a river or bridge until you get to it!

KNOWMORE56:
The best and simple way to know anything
genuine is to consider and take note of all it's detail characteristics.

...KJV

KNOWMORE56:
"[/b]For instance, under the Law of Moses, you don't do anything on Saturday. You will be stoned to death if you try it. How many of you trying to defend the Law keep the Sabbath day Holy? "[b]

This is why Dtruthspeaker called it "a perverted version of the law"

cc: ken4Christ
Exactly what is happening in Nigeria as exhibited in this thread https://www.nairaland.com/6473354/abuja-magistrate-orders-lawyer-handcuffed/3#100160241.

Also what Supreme Court Justice is reported to have said in this thread https://www.nairaland.com/6472227/rhodes-vivour-some-supreme-court-decisions#100117945

"He said the doctrine, in effect, means “stand by your decisions and the decisions of your predecessors, however wrong they are and whatever injustices they inflict”.

Meanwhile The Law is The Court Must Do No Wrong, yet a Judge of The Law Proclaims Otherwise, so how shall The Righteous Law not be put away and the law in force not be a perverted and subverted one?

7wonder:
... In respect of the law being a cardio surgeon and must not make mistakes, how does that apply here? The courts will always make mistakes.

Lies!

You and all Wrong Doers NEED (like Air to man) the Courts to make "Mistakes" so that your Wrong and Wicked Doings would not be Spotted and Condemned.

Therefore, promoting an Increase in the Doing of Wickedneses and yet having the validation of a certain judge or Magistrate!

Cursed indeed are you Lawyers and Judges and further cursed are you, for cursing yourselves!

7wonder:
I hope you are contending by reason of sufficient experience but I make bold to say 'i dont think so' Hmmm..I don't know why you said a judge cannot be allowed to make an error.

At the bolded!
Simply because you do not know the things which you are supposed to know since you are been led by Deceivers and Snakes, and have been completely deceived and yet you still do not know it!

And from your continued statements, you have so many "you do not knows," So when would you start knowing?

livingchrist:
You simply an ignorant man, that is puffed up by his fleshly mind.
What paul says cannot be understood by fleshly mind,
The law of God is not your man made law that requires the training of a lawyer to understand.

You can be carnally knowledgeable like bring a lawyer but spiritual ignorant, go and ask nicodemus.

1 Corinthians 3:19
For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.

Thanks for the ridicule, for by it you have clearly shown that you can not answer.

So, since you were not able to kill the message, hence, the messenger Must Die!

For which I am happy to be murdered!

So, Thank you very much!

7wonder:
Lol. I am clearly wasting my time. You are not a lawyer and won't bow to superior arguments because of pride. Take care.

you wish!

Clearly, you do not care about being Prosecuted by Another Greater and Higher Court who shall find you Guilty of the same Offences wherewith you have convicted others even in your and by the standards of your corrupt courts!

Any lawyer who hates conviction and damnation would steer away from it!

7wonder:
No, you are certainly not in the practice of law because you have stated things that a practicing lawyer even though one year at the bar would not.

I do not conform to things which are Not True or Just or Right or Good! Nay, I will never follow!

Even if this world explodes, Right Must be Done and not wrongs, The Court Must Never be Allowed to Do A Wrong!

7wonder:
Don't be so sure and confident. The position of the law is clear. If there is any perceived wrong or injustice, APPEAL!

Not when a harm is being done by The Court, in the Presence of All Parties concerned.

Consider this, if the Court can accept corrections for dates, numbers and amount, in the face of the Court and in the Presence of the parties concerned, therefore it can be guided at material times to prevent the occasion of harm.

The Court Must Harm No One is Ultimate Law!

7wonder:
Don't confront the bench or make it obvious to him that you suspect connivance with opposing counsel. That is how it should be done. The law provided avenues for ventilating your grievance when faced with such situations. That principle you of Tenants of law bla bla you quoted is of no moment in the instant case and does not apply because the law is clear, APPEAL. In respect of the law being a cardio surgeon and must not make mistakes, how does that apply here? The courts will always make mistakes. They will always err and when they err what do you do? You use another avenue to correct that error. Look for an experienced lawyer close by to school you. I can see you are not contending from experience but from hearsay. It will be of no use to reel out judicial authorities here because it's only a fellow lawyer in the business that would understand. I can understand you don't want to concede to the fact that you do not know how the law works so as not to be seen to be ignorant but please do not pass on that knowledge you acquired.

All those beautiful judgements you applauded in school, where did they come from?

From a court that avoided the doing of a wrong! Denning said "When a man's house is burnt, he shall be homeless, and he suffers more than his initial suffering. Therefore let's prevent his house from being burnt that he may be protected from the elements" on Just is Delayed, is Just is Denied!

When your house is razed down let us see how you shall be willing to go through another process of acquiring a house, when you know that the burning down of your house could have been PREVENTED!

Arkmanbuddy:
What you've just shown is a kid knowledge of the word of God. Why didn't Paul speak on tithing?

Must He Comment on ALL subjects of The Law?
Anyway does this commentary not cover tithing?
"Giving thanks, Always, For All Things, Unto God and The Father, in the Name of our Lord Jesus Christ" Ephesians 5:20

Arkmanbuddy:
Why did he talk down on the importance of circumcision, though it's a key part of the Jewish law?

Is Romans Chapters 2,3 and 4 not enough commentary about circumcision?

Arkmanbuddy:
What the passage you quoted is really saying is that the belief in Christ has replaced the law -- no more sacrifices and physical activities to obey the law.

Get knowledge and stop being ignorant. Truthspeaker indeed!

Interpretation of simple ordinary folks and Paul was not an Ordinary Folk, he was a Lawyer, even a Lawyer's Lawyer, hence the need for Legal Interpretation!

7wonder:
You wouldn't understand. You just wouldn't understand except you are in the business.

I am in the Practice and I have been burnt like him, so I think it just that ALL BE BURNT!

For This is No Law and This is No Court!

Exactly as the people of Israel did with God's Laws and His Courts!

Let's have a Fresh New Good Law and Court!

7wonder:
La wa o! Which principle? Where did you learn that one from? That is not within the framework of our legal jurisprudence. They are many persons on this forum who are here to garner knowledge and it is better we do not say a thing we know nothing of. I can see that you are not a lawyer.

Continuing Legal Education!

Is it Not The Law that The Courts can do No Wrong? The question is why?

The Falls Answer promoted is that it is because The Court is Attached to the King and it is said that the King can Do No Wrong! Another Partially Untrue Answer for we have seen Kings do Wrongs!

Therefore what is the True Position? The Answer Lies in the Nature of A Court that is to dispense "Just Is" and Rightness.

If it is to dispense Rightness and Rightness Only, therefore, it can not dispense Wrongness and of course it can dispense wrongness but it must be aided by all the parties to prevent the doing of such.

7wonder:
The magistrate is the one with both the yam and the knife. If he erred and refuse to correct the errors or mistakes even when his attention is drawn to it, you go upstairs. Have you heard of the saying "To Err is human?" I would quote Lord Denning at this juncture "God forbid that I know all the law." Please desist from misleading people. Bless.

The Court is like a Cardio Surgeon, it must not make mistakes, mistake injures another and when another is injured wrongly, The Law is breached.

And how is conceivable that the place for the Remedy of Breaches itself is an Offender as the People it Judges?

I am sure you have not heard this Principle "The Tenets of The Law are to Live Honestly, to Harm No One and to Give to each His Due" hence why the judge holds "the yam and knife" as you said!

7wonder:
What cogent reasons?

you heard the reason the first time! This is the beginning of many Accusations to be flung at the bench for that is what it means for the Judiciary to be Corrupt!

They No Longer have the Protection of Rightness but are Open to Accusations.

7wonder:
Is he practicing law in the 80's? He was in a good position to know the likely outcome of his acts. There are instances where a counsel can ask a judge or magistrate to recuse himself from a matter because he believes as a fact that the justice of a case is not being done..even the foregoing should be done with caution. He could also write to the Chief Judge and have the matter re-assigned or continued before another judge but not to interrupt or interject during ruling or accuse the bench head on. Go and stand before even an ordinary Area Court judge and tell him he is corrupt then you will know whatsup? Even when they know they do not have jurisdiction to entertain criminal matters, they can mess you up summarily. Let's be guided.

Every way has its consequences however The Court must do no Wrong is The Law, it is not Governors Office or Theives Assembly but A Court of Rightness and this Court did not do Rightness!

livingchrist:
This is why I said what you are saying does not make sense.

Exactly why Peter said it is difficult for the Unlearned to understand for even where I have laid all out, you still do not understand or rather you Truly understand but it is hard to accept.

Well, that is Law for you, for it does not stand on small knowings but on many.great ones which is unable to enter the mind of simple folk!