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sonmvayina:
What is death?

This is Obviously A New Issue Departing from the Topic of this Thread!

But to put in a Quick One "death" is
1) Whatever A Creator of it calls it
2) Whatever The Creator of it Has created it to Accomplish
3) Whatever that has been created to Harm a creation which a creation is powerless to prevent!
4) Whatever that has been created to De-create or Uncreate a creation bringing about a termination and a discontinuation of the usual and normal living conditions which a creation is accustomed to living.

sonmvayina:
But you only need two parents to create a man?..the man provides the spirit and the woman the body...and it grows inside the womans body...that is why geneology is transferred from father to son.

I have settled this before and it ended up in you insulting me when you could no longer offer a reasonable counter and it is also a departure from this thread!

budaatum:
You might chose not to believe this, but not once has curses and insults ever felt like blows and slaps and kicks....

There in that Statement is the case I am proving and you have just Proven it for me in Admitted The Truth of my Assertion, which is that You Felt It, even if it is not as strong as a blow, slap.or kick as you say you felt.

But provided that you have admitted feeling a non-physical sensation, my case is made!
Thank you for your honesty, that is what this forum is about!

sonmvayina:
Did you miss the part that says " in our image after our likeness?..

Mascots Prove this for they are made in the image of man eg Ben 10 Mascots, Captain America etc.

But the Difference between man and mascot
is Very Distinct and Clear!

sonmvayina:
The earth supplied the physical materials while God supplied the spirit...who supplied the soul?

Who else is going to supply the soul? Can the man who is still being manufactured do anything?

No, he can not, So it is God his Creator who has all the materials at His Disposal to finish the manufacturing process of the man.

sonmvayina:
Like i said in my first post, soul = spirit + flesh.
Do you agree? If not where does the soul cone from?

I disagree this is the correct equation (Soul + Holy Spirit) + earth/flesh = "man"

sonmvayina:
What is jesus saving?..and when did God plan the human sacrifice fiasco?

I am not going into this again or now. Let's conclude on this issue first!

Ken4Christ:
Titus 2:11-13...;

You are just running across what you people wrongfully call new testament raising statements which merely repeat what has been laid to rest, searching for a place to stand and lay your tired feet, but finding none!

You have already clearly proven that you are unstable and it is Written "Unstable as water, thou shalt not excel;"

So I let me leave you with your runnings!

Kobojunkie:
Paul tried in his letters to use analogies in explaining concepts to people in his way. Problem is many people took what he supposedly wrote in his letters and built religions on those, ignoring Jesus's Christ's teaching instead.

Those letters do not teach the gospel so anyone leaning on that for the Truth of God is thoroughly deceived. Look around you at the over 2 billion so called Christans/Catholics out there whose very churches are built on doctrines derived from Paul's letters and tell yourself they are indeed of Christ.

Jesus Christ did not ask anyone to divide His teachings. He simply asked that you accept(trust) and obey it, but for many of you, thar remains an impossible task since your egos, you cannot let go of still..

I understand why you say this and the fact that over 2 Billion have misunderstood Paul's Writings yourself included, I respectfully say, however, I think it has still not gone unnoticed that even 2 Billion souls, if they speak Truly, they would say that they Truly do not Fully Comprehend Paul's Writings.

Just when they think they understand, another statement of his is in conflict with their original thought!

But the Settlement of his writings lies in the fact that it must be Read and Interpreted by Paul's own eyes which is by a Lawyer's Eyes or by A Legal Mind not an ordinary one which is were you too are in confusion as the other 2 Billion!

Kobojunkie:
Dividing what Law? And what facts? Placing each of what in their lawful place?

By reason of his Passion to Enforce The Law which was was what made him enter into the employment of The Lord, it was his job as a Lawyer TO KNOW THE LAW AND APPLY OR EXECUTE IT from case to case.

And every case is established by Facts thus, it is his job and call as A Lawyer to Apply The Relevant Laws to the Relevant Facts with Accuracy and Precision.

Because The Law is Precise and "Just is" Must be Precise, With No Margin of Error lest A Wrong is Done.

The Law will not Allow the Doing of A Wrong, thus, The Law Does No Wrong and further it's Handlers Must Do No Wrong!

Hence Lawyer Paul must carefully distill issues without doing a wrong, which he successfully accomplished!

budaatum:
If I slap you for instance, is it the spiritual you that feels the pain? Does the food you eat nourish the spiritual you or the physical you? How about the shelter you live in, is it for the protection of a physical you or a spiritual you? And what exactly is this spirit you?...

So also did you feel the blows, slaps and kicks when a person curses, insults and wounds you, even without saying a word or when you were sexing and smooching a girl and you knew she felt it even though you did not "physically touch her"!

sonmvayina:
I think i have finally proven beyond every reasonable doubt that jesus is just a roman invention and has got nothing to do with God or man. He was created as an insult against God. And to deceive those with feable minds..

I don't know where you Proved this or whom you proved it over but I do know that 3 Times you sought to establish it with me is the 3 Times you Failed and rather resorted to insults.

However, this is not the issue now but I do believe that someone ought to tell you that what you said here is NOT TRUE!

sonmvayina:
Read it again..the spirit is Gods spirit....

What is the wisdom in God destroying his spirit?..

First it is Clear and Settled that the Raw Materials which was used to manufacture the man is from the earth, hence hu-man which means "humous-man" which means "earth man" which as you have said all the tribes of the earth agree and concede that man is from the 'earth,"

But where your problem lies is in understanding the Second Material Used in making the man which in my opinion is 2 materials which are not earthy but "Unseen Materials which we call spirit, which were Bound as a Single Unit at Creation, which is what we call Soul and I call the Second One, The Holy Spirit of God Himself.which I reasonably deduced from Genesis 2:7, Genesis 6:3 Ezekiel 37:14, John 1:9 and Romans 8:9.

As I have explained to you in the past, by The Laws of Creation, "A Creator Always has Great Power over His Creation and The Creator can do anything which pleaseth Him to Do To and Over His Creation with limitation ONLY to the Intention and Will of The Creator.

Thus, in the case of man, it pleaseth God to Put Himself and Join Himself with the soul of man exactly as man has created his cars and joins his car to power it.

And just like a car, man can remove himself from his car yet the car is Powered.

This same Application is what The Lord has done over us.

Now, like the car still being Powered even after removing yourself from it, you the man still have further power to
1) kill and dispose of it or
2) dispose of it without Killing it or
3) dispose of it in such a manner that it shall be killed.

And after you have done any of these things, does the man the creator of the car not continue with his Life while his car is dead and disposed of?

Same is what The Lord God our Creator can Also Do Unto his creation called the man!

bmdmix1:
I think lots of Christians speak in tongue when....

they run out of words to say.

BMD

Yes, they speak at least English, pidgin, babble like babies and 1 or 2 or 3 local dialects!

Preshcater:
Are psychic powers real??

Man is more than skin, blood and bones, he is "spirit" and by his spirit, he can do many many things both good and very wicked.

And wicked people are the most proficient in it and women are the most devilish users of it!

While those who want to do right and good are the least users of it.

Thus, you already know the answer to your question for in you being a woman, you have therefore noticed your "psychic" abilities and you just wish to increase it, as a witch, for of course, you will use it for your own profit without care who it wounds!

budaatum:
He's far too advanced for believers, lol, and work must be done to understand him.

That is how the Language of Law is to lay-men, the direct literal English meaning is not the same in Law Speak eg Justified, Consideration, Deed, Consequence, End, law, Consent, Bonds etc have Needle Prick Definitions in the Language of Law.

And all of Paul's Writing is in the Language of Law not Use of English Texts!

Kobojunkie:
Really? Then why weren't Adam's sons, Abel and Seth, listed as sinners, like their dad?

You went raising a 2 Year Old thread?

Kobojunkie:
If Paul's "teachings" were so hated, and rejected, according to you, why is the church with a population of over 2 billion, built on his doctrines?
Jesus Christ addressed this by telling you to stay away from all doctrines and traditions of men that do not conform to His teachings. He warned you against feeding yourself such teachings.
_{** substituted from another Bible translation for better understanding of what is impacted}
Paul's letters were written to an audience of BELIEVERS so what he wrote of was not the Gospel as taught by Jesus Christ since, obviously, that teaching is meant for those who do not already know it.
Instead, Paul wrote of His views and ideas concerning the Gospel of Jesus Christ and the concerns of the people of his time, and that view should never replace the actual Gospel of the Kingdom of Jesus Christ as preached by Jesus Christ, the Word of God, Himself.

The Gospel of the Kingdom of God remains as it is written in the 4 Gospels. Paul's letters, which He wrote, again, to BELIEVERS of his time, were his ideas/views/opinions from his experience on issues(cultural and personal) that his audience may have had at the time. His opinions should never be used to try to explain or circumvent the acceptance(trusting) and obedience of the teachings of Jesus Christ Himself.

Paul Wrote as the Lawyer he is, Dividing The Law and Fact, Placing each in their Respective Lawful Places!

Ken4Christ:
You said nothing. Please, go back to school and read English language. You don't even know what it means to be justified.

Thank you for the insult!

Clearly means, you can not offer up Any Reasonable Opposition!

Google says
adjective
1.having, done for, or marked by A Good or Legitimate (Law-Full) Reason.

Under Law it means,
Justified!
"A Legal (Law-Full) Excuse for the performance or nonperformance of a particular act that is the basis for exemption from guilt.

HellVictorinho:
Bla Bla Bla

Sheep! Have you any wool? No sir, No sir, None at all!

Donspicey:
I have encountered many Wealthy Business men with series of Investments but once you ask them for financial assistance they will start telling you about how many people and financial institutions that they are owing which leaves me with many thoughts...

Is it possible to work,save up,and start Businesses with out debts and still be Wealthy?

Lets Discuss..........

The Law is "Sufficiency is the evil thereof!"

Melst:
Please if you can help and advice me on what to do as regards subject, kindly indicate and I'll send a dm. I'll give details then. Please only legal practitioners that can help. Many thanks.

Intestacy Laws means that you are referring to the Unwritten Personal Laws of the The-Ceased (now called Deceased) First or the The Agreed Family Laws covering the Dead!

livingchrist:
Paul's message is the Lord's message, just as Jesus was opposed on earth about his teachings so his apostles teachings are opposed.
Jesus said a servant can not be greater than his master, if they rejected Jesus teachings so would they also reject his disciples teachings, paul who is unarguably one of the greatest apostles of Jesus suffered most for the gospel, some tried to twist his teachings, others denied it outright.

But why was paul's teachings so hated and rejected? It is because paul presented the gospel in its raw form, [b]because the gospel does not allow human pride or achievements neither does it involve applauding man's ability but exposes man's evilness as well as declaring God's goodness.

Because lay men can not comprehend Legal Writing and Legal Language!

HellVictorinho:
Physics is a wide subject that deals with the relationship between matter and energy.

Physics is a wide subject that deals with Physicals, Seens!

HellVictorinho:
I think the development of deifying tendencies in the first set of religious humans or the first set of humans that deified objects(imaginary or real) happened by chance.
Since that development occurred,some other humans have been exposed to their deifying practices or works.
Since that development occurred,these deifying practices/works have been
addressed by other humans in different ways.
So, I also got exposed to bla bla bla concerning different Gods after I was born without faith in any God.
Owing to the superiority of the effect of my exposure to a particular God over that of other Gods,I developed faith in that particular God instead of the other ones.

The Truth is Always in the Past, Not where you want it to be.

For The Truth is Very Much Older than you!

HellVictorinho:
Humans just exist.
The increase/decrease in population just happens.
There's no reason why there's competition for bla bla bla.
There's no reason why there are people with bla bla bla.
Life is absurd.
There are infinite ageless indivisible objects.
The arrangements of these objects are structures/patterns to an observer.
There is no reason why an observer gets exposed to these things.

You wish, however you are entitled to have wishes!

HellVictorinho:
I once wrote a letter towards that God expressing my thoughts concerning the identity and abilities of the God.
Later,I disposed the letter because there wasn't any response.
After disposing the letter,my curiosity about life increased.

Your Camry can not use its radio to talk to you, so also can you not use a letter to Speak to your Creator!

You can not expect it to work!

BadRadio:
why is there no life in Jupiter and the rest... why is venus burning red hot? What for?

Every House has Decorations!

And children are normally prevented from playing with the Decorations!

budaatum:
Maybe the other planets are in reserve for when we completely mess up earth or become too many and need to migrate.

I mean, imagine earth's population hits 1 Trillion and the date is 1^st January 2,000,021, and Jupiter just might appeal.

Nah! Every house has decorations! They form part of the decorations of this our House called earth!

Eyiwunmi33:
If that is all about the Law of Thought, I think it is so simple that someone needs not having a hard time to comprehend it.

Stop! Hold your soul! Do you remember when they were teaching you 1 +1= ?

Do you remember it was easy to drink in?

Now, watch out for here comes the "Soul Control" by Using the Truth to Deceive and Mislead and To Lie!

Logic is a Course of True-Lies which is meant to destroy your soul from knowing Truths and Being Confident to Rely On Truth and To Prevent you From Knowing The Mighty Power of Truths!

For Anything and Everything that is Not True in Nature is A LIE and A DECEIT and "Soul Control"!

Which is why people can not reason properly NEITHER can they Accept Truth when they hear it!

Yet, they say logic is meant to teach you how to reason properly like we were not reasoning before we came to meet it!

What A Mighty Big Lie!

sonmvayina:
Got this from a jewish lady of facebook...happy reading..

Jews do not recognize the god of the NT, and it seems that #for_some_Christians, #they_do_not_recognize_the_Elohm_of_the_Tanakh. And here’s why.
~ by Sara Finegan

They did not even abide by what is wrongfullly called the "old testament" neither did they even want to keep to it.

So, now, whether they accept it or not, it has now been taken out of their hands and their thoughts and opinions of it has been completely dispensed with since they themselves never Truly Kept it or Wanted It, in the first place!

See yourself, after you have made me carry a Trailer Load of Cement now you are back to one, one bag of cements!

Ken4Christ:
You are a spiritual fraudster. Let's take some of the Scriptures one after the other. Interprete the Scriptures below;

Galatians 2:16 Knowing that a man is NOT JUSTIFIED BY THE WORKS OF THE LAW,..

My Answer is Still Not going to change!

." If you do not Abide, Follow or Obey The Law, how is it possible that you can or could be Defended or Protected by it? (Justify means "Defence" or 'Protected')

If you do not obey the law on Insurance, how can you claim the benefit of insurance?

Or if you have not fulfilled the requirements of being a Doctor, how can you be Defended by The Laws of Medical Practice?

Simple, He who does not obey The Law can not be expected to be Protected or Defended by it!

Ken4Christ:
...but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that WE MIGHT BE JUSTIFIED BY THE FAITH OF CHRIST, and NOT BY THE WORKS OF THE LAW: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.

Justification Comes From Righteousness or Rightness isn't that what The Lord Jesus taught?

"Seek ye first the kingdom of God AND HIS RIGHTEOUSNESS

Not your rightness or my rightness or any man's rightness but God's Rightness!

Now Where can you find God's Righteousness?

Only in His Laws! Not man's laws which the descendants of Israel upheld.

Where do you find His Laws?

In The Original Laws Given and Taught Moses, who further taught them

Ken4Christ:
Romans 3:28 Therefore we conclude that a man is JUSTIFIED BY FAITH WITHOUT THE DEEDS of THE THE LAW.

The word "WITHOUT THE DEEDS of THE THE LAW" answers you, for "Deeds" means "Doings and what was the Doings of The Law, was it Righteous or Unrighteous?

Malachi 2:6 and Your Romans 3 Already Answers you particularly Verses 9-19

1 What advantage then hath the Jew? or what profit is there of circumcision?

2 Much every way: chiefly, because that UNTO THEM WERE COMMITTED THE ORACLES OF GOD.

9 What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin;

10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:

11 There is none that understandeth, THERE IS NONE THAT Seeketh After God.

12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; THERE IS NONE THAT DOETH GOOD, NO, NOT ONE.

13 Their throat is an open sepulchre; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps is under their lips:

14 Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness:

15 Their feet are swift to shed blood:

16 Destruction and misery are in their ways:

17 And the way of peace have they not known:

18 There Is No Fear Of God Before Their Eyes.

19 Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.

And These Statement Is A JUDGEMENT As Given By A Court! A JUDGEMENT OF LAW!

And Who on earth is NOT UNDER THE LAW OF RIGHTEOUSNESS Whether given to Moses or Not!

Are we not all already under The Law of Good/Righteousness and Evil/unrighteousness and are we not Already going to be Judged Under These Laws?

This is what you do not know neither have you Considered that, No Man is above this Law and can Never be!

We are all Judged and are going to be Judged by The Laws of Rightness (Righteousness) vs. Wrongness; Goodness (Righteousness) vs. Evil!

Psalm 9:8
And he shall judge the world in righteousness, he shall minister judgment to the people in uprightness

debaj10:
lol
u mean it didn't occur to u that people have a life outside of nairaland?
SMH
lemme congratulate u again-
enjoy your victory.
heh

To be Relieved of Guilt is Great Solace!

debaj10:
lol
man just derailed my thread for absolutely no reason.
well, my fault for joining issues with u

Certainly your fault for joining issues with me, when I only merely advanced an irregularity spotted and then you decided to conduct a cross-examination on me!

Now I have passed and you have failed, so therefore, you seek opportunity to Re-argue that which you lost!

debaj10:
lol
all ur silly claims of breach of rights and being slighted

on top thread wey u dey philosophize since
amazing...
since u didn't want to suffer inequity on my thread, u should've just done a "jump and pass".
after all, in how many threads do u go demanding answers of the op?

instead, u both REFUSED to participate AND demanded that I must give my own answer, lol-
as if THAT DEMAND doesn't breach MY OWN right to keep silent on the issue; as well as presuming I have any idea of the goings on in a church.

go ax d pipu wey ansa d kweshun, weda my lack of ansa dey pain dem as e dey pain u.
anyway, I've given u advice I feel u need.
take it or leave it.
blessed

After 1 Week of your Silence and Admission has passed, you now CHOSE TO CHANGE YOUR ARGUMENT, at this time?

You are Today's Definition of the word, "Afterthought!" Even as Long As 1 Week!

Please rest and stop the continuous embarrassment of thyself. Cease quoting me!

Ken4Christ:
11. Galatians 3:10-13
12. Galatians 3:17-18
13. Galatians 3:19,21, 24,25
14. Galatians 4:4-5
15. Galatians 5:1-6
16. Ephesians 2:15
17. Colossians 2:14, 20
18. Hebrews 7:12
19. Hebrews 7:18,19
20. Hebrews 8:6-8

11. Galatians 3:10-13
- "...no man is justified by the law..." If you do not abide by The Law, howcan you be justified by it? (Meaning, how can you raise it up as your Defence?)

Impossible!

13 "Christ has redeemed us from the curse of The Law (in that since you do not continue in all that is written in the book of Law to do them, YE ARE CURSED!)

But Since Christ has Restored the Righteous Law, if ye do them, ye are escaped from the Curse!

12. Galatians 3:17-18
Another Self-cide for it clearly says "Christ is The Law". Now shall Christ Abolish Himself.abd and commit Selfcide like you?

Never!

13. Galatians 3:19,21, 24,25
The Law was our school master to bring us unto Christ. Did I not say this earlier and you affirmed it? See

Ken4Christ:
Romans 7:4 For Christ is the END OF THE LAW for righteousness to every one that believeth

Dtruthspeaker
Interpretation: Christ is The Goal of The Law (End in Law means Goal, Aim or Destination!!

14. Galatians 4:4-5
"To redeem them that were under the (Perverse) Law!"

15. Galatians 5:1-6 - same as No 11. "He who keeps not The Law can not be defended by it"!

16. Ephesians 2:15
"Having abolished in his flesh, even The Law of Commandments contained in ordinances; (The physical and Corrupted Versions of The Law)

17. Colossians 2:14, 20 Repetition, of No 11 and 16

18. and 19. Hebrews 7:12/ :18,19
See how you are Unlearned? You know not The Law nor the difference thereof!

This Statement pertains to The Law of The Priest and Priesthood Not The Law Of Laws which you erroneously contend with me

20. Hebrews 8:6-8
8 For finding fault with them... (What fault? The pervasion of it! Malachi 2:6

All is now TOAST!

truespeak:


"He that Keepeth the Law Feareth No Condemnation"!

He that keepeth The Law Feareth No Accusation!

Ken4Christ:
There is no redemption for you. You are lying against your own conscience.

Further Peter Answers you for he clearly told you what I had even told you earlier, That Paul is A Lawyer and Wrote As one, Exactly as The Lord, The Most High Lawyer spoke

2 Peter 3:15-16
"15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;

16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.

All the writings of The Lord and Paul are Exactly in the Clear and Precise Language and Speech of Law and Every Law,er ought to understand the meaning and interpretation of those Writings, being 'learned' men!

Ken4Christ:
There is no redemption for you.

See, Exactly what the Subverters and Perverters Said and Taught in Acts 15:1

Ken4Christ:
You are lying against your own conscience.

If I lie, you and others here would not waste a second to point out that I have lied!

But I understand, you are saying "let me go my way", so I indeed let you go!

sonmvayina:
Psalm 104:29-31
New International Version

29 When you hide your face,(A)
they are terrified;
when you take away their breath,
they die and return to the dust.(B)
30 When you send your Spirit,(C)
they are created,
and you renew the face of the ground.

31 May the glory of the Lord(D) endure forever;
may the Lord rejoice in his works(E)—

Dtruthspeaker and kobojonkie...

No insults...

Please, how does jesus feature in this equation?

Verse 31 has Already Answered You, "The Lord" is The Same Who is Called "Jesus, The Christ!"

Raise up this Question as thread of its own Exactly as it is here, I too will export/import my Answer here to that place and we can proceed in an orderly and tidy manner over there!