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Judas1X:
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What is it now? Are you now going to moan on my mentions like a rejected widow?

You called me a m.oron without provocation, now I have demanded you twice and now will be the 3rd time I will be demanding why my opinion on know-ledge is bad or wrong and makes me a mo.ron?

Yes, Another one is when we say "yay , I don fall for e trap oooh?".

HellVictorinho:
How did you know that they don't post a jot?

there was a lady in romance section who cried out just last week or thereabouts, that she has been a member of Nairaland since 2014 or 2016 or thereabouts, and she has not had any follower.

And someone pointed out the fact that she does not make any post, to which she concurred and said she just preferred reading comments only.

And I have seen several others say the same thing!

HellVictorinho:
What evidence does your existence require except your unnecessary posts?
If you don't post on Nairaland,then you don't exist on Nairaland.

At the highlighted

You are Wrong!

The Proof that a person is in Nairaland is "the Presence of his Moniker in Nairaland, Not the fact of his posting".

For many exist in Nairaland, and yet they Post Not a Jot".

Judas1X:
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LMAO. Do you sincerely believe you made any sense with that juvenile description? Know and Ledge? Seriously? Perhaps you were trying to be witty? What a joke. Even a 3 months old can come up with a better explanation for "knowledge". That was the cringiest comment I've ever read on here.

You have still not shown how and why know-ledge is wrong, you are only repeating your displeasure at hearing it with No More!

Another Proof of spirit is as we say "eyes like Fire" or "Fire in his eyes" or "your eye don red" or "her eye don tear"!

Tamaratonye1:
Oh dear, I fear you may not understand the significance of my post. Though by now its' predictable. You appear to have missed the based on it's appropriate level bit.

Based on Google your Carl Sagan, like you, he too knew Nothing About Evidence!

And like you, he was only exercising his rights to exercise his mouth.

Judas1X:
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You're a tragic m.oron for this statement

Why the insult simply because you do not agree or for your own lack of knowlng? Surely, it can not be my fault that you did not know

And if you were confident of your knowing why have you not pointed it out, if you can, rather go to insult?

For it seen that people Insult when they are unable to Rebut an assertion.

is it not said among your kind that know-ledge is power? And he who has power has advantage?

And does advantage not place a person on a height over others?

shadeyinka:
I agree with you with respect to man.
But animals also are souls devoid of the spirit.

My understanding is that when God breath into man, man became an eternal being (because he now has a spirit). This is what the Bible calls a LIVING SOUL.

Animals are temporary beings. When they die, they cease to exist. However, because man is a spirit being, he cannot cease to exist at death. He only changes form from a Physical being to a Spiritual being.

I am unable to experience what animals experience so I really do not think that I am qualified to talk about them but the closest I will go is that The Lord Said this "Genesis 9:5

5 And surely your blood of your lives will I require; at the hand of every beast will I require it, and at the hand of man; at the hand of every man's brother will I require the life of man.

That dual law tells me that we are the same save that by Christ's Proclamation, the man is of higher regard.

Same as when The Lord said "Luke 12:6

“Are not five sparrows sold for two farthings, and not one of them is forgotten before God?”

shadeyinka:
I do not understand what you mean here. I don't know what the soul of either man or animal is made of. All I know is that
1. Man has a Physical Body
2. Man has a Spiritual Body
3. Man's Soul forms a bridge between his Physical and Spiritual Bodies.

I think that by the Authority of Ezekiel 37, The Lord Reveals how the man was made.

Verse 6 Flesh and Bones first, (Remember the earth was made before the man therefore, The Lord had already pre-made the dust).

Verse 9- The breath of God that puts in the soul (same as in Genesis 2:7)

Then verse 14- The spirit of The Lord is put in and the man lives! As Confirmed by John 1:4

shadeyinka:
I think we need to be careful when the bible speaks about the soul for it could mean different things such as PERSON, BEING, SOUL.

In this respect, in Genesis 1: "and man became a living soul" literarily means man became a living being. It doesn't mean that man's soul was dead until God breath into man.

I think the SOUL itself is what gives life to both the Physical Body and the Spiritual Body. The soul seems not to be able to exist WITHOUT a body (physical or spiritual).

It seems that even though the soul cannot exist without a body, it is what gives the bodies life and identity.

I am beginning to think that Genesis 2 was limited to AdamEve, because whilst AdamEve were perfect at the time of manufacture/creation, AdamEve the Sinner became different because of Corruption and we are all children of the Corruption, therefore I think we must be different from AdamEve.

And another distinct difference is the gravity and weight of their own punishment which is clearly different from ours, in that whilst they turned to dust, we shall live forever in either the Kingdom of God or Lake of Fire!

Tamaratonye5:
You're just trying to reverse the burden of proof - ....

See, Another Classic Example of the Proof of spirit as Tamaratonye has unknowingly supplied, is "Burden of Proof".

Every soul knows it, uses it, yet no one has ever seen it! .

Why?

You guessed right, because it is a spirit!

Tamaratonye5:
For your edification, Dtruthspeaker - there are many types of evidence. However, ALL evidence is accepted or rejected based on its' appropriate level. Guess which of the following your halfwit assertions ticked:

HIGH: High confidence that the evidence reflects the true effect. Further research is very unlikely to change our confidence in the estimate of effect.

MEDIUM: Moderate confidence that the evidence reflects the true effect. Further research may change our confidence in the estimate of effect, and may change the estimate.

LOW: Low confidence that the evidence reflects the true effect. Further research is very likely to change our confidence in the estimate of effect, and likely to change the estimate.

INSUFFICIENT: Evidence is either unavailable, or does not permit a conclusion.

Allow me to clue you in: there is absolutely nothing you have written here that has risen above the INSUFFICIENT category. You can prove me wrong though, by presenting proper EVIDENCE for your numerous claims.

hahaha whoooo!
When I was warning did your stony heart hear? When I counseled you did your soul listen?

Now after making a Full Mockery of yourself with All your Verbosity and Self Importance, Grand Standings and Posturings, Inflammatory Statements and Uninformed Judgments you still went on to do what I had respectfully counseled that you ought to do at the first?

Your case is res-judicata!

Tamaratonye5:
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Can Dtruthspeaker offer no objective evidence for this claim?? Tsk, tsk, tsk

You're just trying to reverse the burden of proof - a dishonest debating tactic you keep employing whenever you're out-thought and outgunned.

Your obfuscation of the meaning of "evidence" is only a way for you to run away, as you always do, from your claims like a whipped pussy lol. No rational person here is fooled by your trolling evasion. Though they may find your random capital letters, and remedial grammar a bit baffling.

Thank you for Running Back to your Seat, it is appreciated That You Yourself Know That You Know Too Little About Evidence and that you are Truly Not Worthy To Pronounce on it.

That Same Lack of Knowledge, still Swallows You Up Here, For you still do not know whether I have pleaded Evidence or Not!

So please take your seat and let the True Judges of Evidence Speak About Evidence, while you listen with your legs crossed!

johnhood:
Nice write up. So because we don't believe in the existence of God so that liken us to roaches?

No sir, not your disbelief, it is rather those who see that which is True, even if temporarily, yet they elect to see that which they have always seen and are accustomed to seeing.

They are right in what they see, this is True, but we have seen them see that which is also True but not prevailent and yet they return to that which they commonly see, and then they expect to have a different result other than the common result.

A typical case of a person doing the same thing and yet expecting a different result each time.

It is from this view I speak!

sonmvayina:
I am God covered in flesh..

Yeah the one wey mosquito dey bite, rottweiler dey pursue and hunger dey kill!

shadeyinka:
Whenever the body cannot sustain living, the soul/spirit leaves.

Your answers here were sweet and accurate but on this point, I think it needs to be brought to your attention that it is the Spirit of God that "powers" both the soul and body of man,

The soul of man which The Lord Also made is also spirit like the Spirit of God only separate and distinct and not physical like the flesh.

And like the flesh, it had no life of its own, therefore, at the creation of the man, his soul had no life until the Spirit of God Came and powered it.

And this is gleaned from the The Law of "My spirit shall not always strive with man, yet his days shall be 120 yrs".

shadeyinka:
Even though this is not part of your question:
1. Sickness:
Your Body can be SICK
Your Soul can be SICK
Your Spirit can be SICK
2. Food:
Your Body can be FED
Your Soul can be FED
Your Spirit can be FED

The Spirit of God is exempted here!

shadeyinka:
3. Death:
Death simply means a DISCONNECTION
a. Physical Death:
Disconnection of the BODY from the SOUL/SPIRIT
b. Spiritual Death:
Disconnection of a human SPIRIT from God's SPIRIT
c. Second Death:
Permanent Disconnection of a person's BODY/SOUL/SPIRIT from GOD

I think that since the first death of the human is because the Spirit of God Returns back to Him, therefore, the soul of the man remains "powered" which is why it can live in "sleep" (according to Christ) or in hell, like Sodom/Gomorrah, Korah etc, until Judgement Day, where all souls shall live Eternally in either the Sweet Kingdom of God or in Lake of Fire!

But, now it stands to good reason that the soul will continue living, as it hath pleaseth The Lord to make it so.

Tamaratonye5:
Evidence
noun
1. the available body of facts or information indicating whether a belief or proposition is true or valid.

Fact
noun
1. a thing that is known or proved to be true.

You have offered none of the above to support your assertion about spirits. Just asserted that a known phenomenon, death, and medical terminology indicates your assertion to be valid. It’s not evidence for your claim, and as is usually the case you refuse to elucidate rationally your assertion, and resort to irrelevant non sequiturs and ad hominems.

It’s perfectly adequately defined in any dictionary dear, and since you have not presented anything beyond bare assertion, there's nothing to look at. So again nobody is falling for this asinine evasion.

It’s infantile rhetoric, and also the fact you seem to genuinely think any of that's evidence for the claim says it all really. I’m embarrassed for you lol. Poor guy.

What a pithy little tautological piece of nonsense. Again evidence is defined in any dictionary, I suggest you look it up.

And this is where you are Completely Out of your depths and out of your league, m'lady!

All you know about Evidence is the Definition of Evidence?

And your knowledge of Evidence is Limited Only to the Definition of Evidence for Toddlers and then you present it as your Overwhelming Knowledge and Understanding of Evidence?

And based on the definition of Evidence for babies you fancied yourself a judge of Evidence?

The Scope, the Nature, the Types and the Law Restricting the Use of them, you know Not?

Yet, you thought to consider yourself a Judge of Evidence?

Shall you submit yourself to a carpenter to perform an appendicitis operation on you?

Respectfully lady, your Jurisdiction lies in the Confines of the Toddlers Classroom and Any where else you may have precedence, BUT you have No Place in Judging what Amounts To Evidence here!

You know Nothing girl On Evidence and since the Only Thing you know about Evidence is to Supply the Definition for Toddlers, You Are Immediately Disqualified From Passing A Judgment Over The Admittance Of Evidence, for Being Evidence. You Are A Fake Judge!

And Fake Judges Have No Jurisdiction Over Any Matter, Anywhere, Neither is their Judgement ever Valid and Acceptable

So enough playing Judge, go plant your little pert butt over there, While The Real Judges of Evidence, Come In!

Thank you!

Tamaratonye5:
Another tedious list of subjective unevidenced assertions, littered with random capital letters, pretty ironic as well, under the circumstances....

All the shit you say is hinged on what you know Evidence is Vs. what I know, what Evidence to be.

So present your knowledge of Evidence here,.what Evidence is? it's Type and Nature, The Laws of Evidence, What things amount to Evidence and what things do Not!

When this is settled, then you can rightfully dispose one way or the other, the evidence I have given in this case.

For You Must Know What Evidence is, For You To Know What Is Not Evidence!

Oya, show your knowledge of Evidence, if you can and this is my second demand to you, else it clearly proves You Know Nothing On Evidence, The Types of Evidence, The Nature of Evidence, The Laws guiding and guarding the use of Evidence. And therefore all you say is sewage.

And of course this is the first time That You Realised That You Did Not Know What Evidence Truly Meant!

LordReed:
Bwahahahaha! I thought you said you were finding spirit in everything. Were you lying? LMFAO!

like the word you said "finding" meaning, it requires discovery and uncovery and disclosury

sonmvayina:
Same as your Jesu's too...so you see why jesus can't be God too....

The Proof of The God-ness of The Lord, Jesus, The Christ is Very Much Evidenced in the fact that No Man Could have ever beautifully escaped the hot traps laid against Him in any of those cases of the adulterous woman, the case of the greatest Commandments, or the case of the payment of tax to Ceasar.

Only The Lord could do so at His will and Pleasure, and the men who evaded such wicked traps, All got their help and Assistance From Him!

But you know all these however, like Judas Iscariot, it is your job to be a False Prophet, so you are only doing your work.

Blabbermouth:
Since time immemorial, man had always and will always continue to attribute what he cannot do and isn't capable of as part of God's sovereign ability.
Even if there are many many denominations in Christianity, I believe every of them agree that God is Omniscient, Omnipotent and Omnipresent. We don't have issues with the last 2 Omni - (for now) , so we will just concentrate on the first one. While this omniscient attribute is sweet to the ears, I want to know if God himself actually claimed/said that he "knows the future".
The floor is open, I don't want substance less

Claim? Does He need to claim when He has done?

Did He not tell Abraham and Jacob that their family would be in bondage? Was it not done

Did He Not tell them that if they do not walk with Him, He would Scatter them? Was it not done?

After, He had scattered them did He not thereafter say that they shall be brought back home together to be Scattered No More? Did we not see Isreal return in 1967 to were they are Now, And Since Then, No One Can Remove them, And Neither are they going anywhere, EXACTLY AS THE LORD HAD SAID?

And has the Future which The Lord told us in Mathew 24, Not Fall upon us today and we are Witnesses to all these going on around us and in the world today, EXACTLY AS HE SAID?

This question is a non-issue, for the Truth of it has been proven over and over again and it is even still being Proven True Today!

[quote author=jesusjnr2020 post=95873252][/quote]Yes! Being a False Prophets as Foretold, he is attempting to do his crafty evil work of entrapping people with the foolish idea of being a god, now knowing that there are many foolish idiots who wish to be "powerful" and would like to think themselves powerful.

However,.it is also Foretold that "many shall succumb to his deceits, and I have long since seem that it is there intention to fall, so no problems here, for they do not know that it is within the Plan of God, for him and all the other hims, to do what they do!

And none changeth it neither can they ever change it!

[quote author=jesusjnr2020 post=95873252][/quote]Yes! Being a False Prophets as Foretold, he is attempting to do his crafty evil work of entrapping people with the foolish idea of being a god, now knowing that there are many foolish idiots who wish to be "powerful" and would like to think themselves powerful.

However,.it is also Foretold that "many shall succumb to his deceits, and I have long since seem that it is there intention to fall, so no problems here, for they do not know that it is within the Plan of God!

sonmvayina:
I will open a social media fan page and talk to people directly..
What about you ?

that is why I keep telling you that you do not know Who God is, for if you did, with all that you do not know, you would be Truly happy that you are you!

LordReed:
Morning. So did you find spirit in Mycoplasma genitalium?

it was never my course of action, but yours, so it would not be possible for me to pursue it.

I had my course, and I coursed my course and I have long since arrived at my destination.

LordReed:
Repeating trite statements do nothing to support your position.

Morning, Bros! Ah,this topic is making me find spirit in everything so I am going to be bringing them here for people to see.

Tamaratonye5:
Pure nonsense, another bare assertion from you in the pretence it's evidence.

Anty Tamara, between you and I, you know Nothing About Evidence, the Nature of Evidence and the Law of Evidence, How, Evidence is Obtained, The Types of Evidence that Exist etc

So, You Do Not know what Evidence Is and How it Works and therefore you are not in a position to contend with me on Evidence.

(Now folks, do you know the Tamaratonye style of argument? she shall divert from the main issue and move into the streams of the main issue like a bull shark leaves the ocean to go into rivers).

Aunty Tamara that can argue forever, Come and present your knowledge of Evidence if you have more knowledge about Evidence than I, let us see, if not, hold you breast (na joke oh, if not I know say you must talk about breast so tay, thread finish)

The only thing of interest to me here is your knowledge of Evidence, bring it that we may Examine (I know say you go dodge am mmh)

AvsGot007:
he wan burst your head shey�

No Bros, I no gree make e talk for me, I gas talk my own talk.

LordReed:
What is spirit? Can you give objective proof of this thing called spirit?

Another Proof is when we say "Action speaks louder than words"

johnhood:
The problem is hope. Where do hope come from? From God? Nah! People have been hoping on him for ages but nothing to show only continual suffering. Rather even those hoping on him has division among themselves.

The problem with walking with God is that you have and Must Follow Him, instead of expecting Him to follow you.

And when you do not enter His Vehicle, you have to search for another vehicle to board!

And when you get off His Vehicle, it is bye-bye!

Fvcknames:
Lolz. Tbh I agree with you. I could be a completely changed man once money starts coming in because I know a lot of rich douchebags did not think they'll be douchebags when they were broke. I'm simply stating what I'll do with my current mentality and hopefully that wouldn't change.

And I am saying unfortunately, it would change!

johnhood:
I always feel sorry for people and feel like I have to make money to help poor people. But I have not been able to take care of myself and my mother and siblings talkmore of others. When I think about it I will always enter depressed.

People without money, do not and can not know about having money. They are experts in the knowledge of "not having money" than in having money.