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Brandonx:
You tried to make them comfortable, call them daily and then they get accustomed to that lifestyle.

Now they have constantly refused to accept the fact that a child would grow up and lead his own life, I feel there's a stage one gets to in life and would want to explore, think less about family.

But when you have a parent who feels when you don't call them for a week, there's someone somewhere getting all the attention.

Then they start hating on their child's friends because they feel the friend is trying to take their place in the life of their child and then the child gets elusive and the list goes on and on.

So is there any way anyone could strike a balance and remain there ? i.e have a life of your own and also be in your parents life.

Your error is that you are weak and were weak in their eyes and you have not shown them your boundaries!

Omokowa:
Now you are talking. I had expected you to talk about love before now. So you see, children should not be indebted to do out of love. Likewise, it is parent's responsibility to cater for the ones they brought into this world.

Children should Honour their parents too for them to live long, for this is the commandment.

Did you mean to say that "children should not be indebted to do out of love or should be and are indebted to love?

Secondly, as you said, it is truly parents responsibility to cater for their children and I add not parents alone, but the Society. This was the Will of God!

However, man is set on being very disobedient to God, and has now successfully disobeyed Him now, speaking generally.

Notwithstanding, many parents are doing what they can as within there limits to cater for their children.

candyguyofficia:
If the marriage that existed Customary the alledge wife do not have a right of claim as generally widow cannot inherit from her deceased husband... .

This statement is Now Bad-Law, No, Evil Law because it is Repugnant to Natural Justice, Equity and Good Conscience and the courts have begun delivering the Right Decision.

LagosAirport:
But there is no Union between them to dissolve na

no be dem make d union? Na dem must dissolve am!

Omokowa:
Yes, I am trying with my parents. I might not be able to repay them all they have done for me, but am happy helping them out of love. I love them and I wish I can do more for them. Whether they took me far or not, am indebted to make them happy.

You are indebted to make them happy you are indebted to do good to them.

This is the Law- "Owe no man nothing but Love"

Omokowa:
Am not against your point but, please can you back it with the scripture verse that said this "going against the commandment of God"

This is The Law "Honour thy father and thy mother..."!

Acehart:
What is your definition of repentance?

On Repentance!
From the age of 7 years, every soul knows that which is "Good" from that which is "not good" and they do whichever pleased them.

Repentance is when a soul Agrees that, that which it does, should No Longer Be Done. And then, the Repenter, Sets himself, To- Not-DO, That, which he has said, he shall No Longer Do.

eg Tamaratonye, LortReed CAPSLOCK and others have set themselves to hate God, being former, what the world calls "christians". They are said to have Repented.

Acehart:
Faith be like person wey believe wetin teacher talk for class; repentance be like person wey wetin teacher talk provoke am so tey him go library go read wetin teacher talk.

If you look am well well, him don go library for him mind as he dey class. So you see say Faith and repentance happen for that student mind at the same time.

Na here d tory no complete becos d student MUST BELIEVE d teacher becos wetin teacher teach make sense to d student and dey always dey make sense to student.

Meanwhile, e depend on d student, for d student wey dey lazy for soul and e no like to think or dey know anything, E MUST BELIEVE WETIN TEACHER TALK! because e lazy mind must say "after all teacher know everything and na teacher still teach am dat thing wey dey correct last week, so did one must correct"

But for the student wey know say e Know many things, if d teacher make mistake, E MUST PEPPER TEACHER WITH QUESTION!

And this is were The True "Faith" in the Bible is, for if and When The Teacher Answers All His Questions, (preferably reasonable ones), like the ones LortReed, kingxamz, DeusXmachina and others may ask, Then There Is No More Doubt! (For where there are questions, Doubt Must Exist).

Thus, No Doubt Because No Question Or Issue Remains To Be Answered or Settled, For All Is Settled!

And where there is No Doubt or Question and All is Settled, then, There is True, Sure, Pure, Confidence not Fake, Self-Induced confidence.

This is what Faith means in the Bible for after Faith, You Begin to Live which is Be-Live for short, on the knowledge you have now acquired!

This is the transition of Faith to Begin to Live (Be-Live)!

BlueAngel444:
I believe it's when you call your brethren a fool you will likewise be in danger of hell fire

It is beyond that, for The Law is - "As a man thinketh, so is he". Therefore, he that thinketh to kill, has killed and b is a killer!

Another Example of the proof of spirit is when we say "he is full of himself"!

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Ihedinobi3:
I'm not sure what you're fighting about.

You were the one that claimed that I misunderstood you after I posted the passage in 1 John 5. Obviously I didn't. Rather, you obviously don't believe what the Bible says about Jesus Christ and you are only attempting to hide your unbelief.

You don't need to persuade me that you are right. I don't believe you and I honestly don't care what you think is true as long as you are opposing the Bible. If you agree with the Bible, then you're my friend. If you don't, you're not. It doesn't matter what you think I should believe. As I said, I only pointed your error out so that you can be saved if you are willing to be. But that choice is up to you. It has nothing to do with me.

Again, there is no question that Jesus was and is God forevermore. The issue for you is whether you believe that He also became a true Man and died on the Cross for our sins and was resurrected as a true Man forevermore for our justification. That is what the Bible teaches. If you don't believe it, you're not saved. If you do, you are.

My friend, i sincerely did not wish to directly point out the errors of your thinking but rather I adopted the policy of "let us agree to disagree" but you leave me no choice.

This is my comprehensive opinion on the subject and I am in Full Compliance with All The Laws of God for The Lord Clearly Said

Luke 12:4-5
4 And I say unto you my friends, Be not afraid of them that kill the body, and after that have no more that they can do.

5 But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after he hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear him.

Doth any man have power to kill my soul? No! I, say, a man hath No Such power, But All Power, Belongs To The Lord, Our God, Who is God from the beginning and Who Remaineth God, Always!

It is You who does Wrong in Reducing and Comparing The Greatness of our God, to the Dust of the earth, that He Himself, Created by claiming and saying that He is "a fellow Man" and "a true Man".

Secondly, you commit an Offence by Wrongfully Reducing and Lowering Your Creator to the Estimation of the Creation, That He, The Creator, even created, in breach of The Law of God as Exhibited in Job 4:17

Shall mortal man be more just than God? shall a man be more pure than his maker?

I now say
Shall mortal man be equal to God? Shall the created be equal to His Maker?

Let us examine the facts to see if there was any Semblance to your "fellow man"!

1) His Holy Birth/Arrival!
Is there any"fellow man" who had or has a Holy Birthing, apart from Him? Or are all men not born of sexual copulation between man and woman? Did that ever happen to Him? Was His Holy Conceiving not a Holy Implantation without any sexual contact? Are men not conceived from coitus-penetratus-sperma-delivery?

So compare, even in His Holy Birthing, was it like the conception of "fellow man"?

2) His Conduct on earth:
look at how you and all your fellow men think, look at His Thinking! Is it the same? He said He came to fulfil The Law your fellow man now say He came to change The Law.

He said Adultery commences from heart, yet your fellow men think that they are guilty of adultery only when they have physically implemented it.

He said give to receive, your fellow man says do not give, "for if you give your thing will finish and you would not have again"

So, tell me can these 2 People be the same?

3) His Powers:
Did He drop or lose His Powers to become like man?
i- Can fellow man speak to diseases and they shall hear?
ii -Do demons fear fellow man that they beg and take permission from him?
iii- can fellow man forgive and remove the sins of his fellow man? (Even his own e no fit remove not to talk of another person's)
iv- Can fellowman warn the mosquito, fly and rat not to disturb his peace that they should hear him, not to talk of the fact of calming the stormy sea?
V- Can fellow man walk upon the sea?

4) His Holy Departure from earth!
Like His Holy Arrival on earth was Exclusively Special and Different from yours and all men, His Departure was even Greatly Exclusively Special and in complete variance with yours and all fellow man.

For which fellow man died and departed from the face of the earth and the stone moved because of his dying, not to talk of having an earthquake? Or which man died that he raised himself up from the death? Or which man lifted himself up out of the earth to be seen no more on the face of the earth?

If No Fellow man did any of these things neither is he able to do any of them, how then is it reasonably and even conceivable to dare to compare He that is God Over all these things and more, to the similitude of fellow man?

In which part of these primary things that a fellow man is made of, can you find any semblance to the fellow man, to reasonably justify you to call Him Who is God, "a fellow man"?

His birth was Exclusively and Especially Different, His Conduct was Different, His Departure was Specially Exclusively Different, so wherein is His similarity to "fellow man"?

It is Greatly Unjust, unfair, Insultive, Ridiculing, Derogatory, Defamatory, Disrespectful and in Great Disregard, to The Glory and Honour and Power and Majesty and the High Greatness of The Person of Our Lord and God, Jesus, The Christ!

You should look up the Scope and Magnitude and Power of The Offence of Defamation, in relation to The Lord and see if your thinking is correct and good and Right before The Lord!

For if you would KNOWINGLY avoid to defame no man on earth, How Then Can You Think To Knowingly Defame, Him, Who Is High and Came From On High, Even thy Own God?

This is My Stand!

Ihedinobi3:
You don't need to persuade me of anything, I assure you. I'm perfectly content in worshiping Jesus Christ as God and also recognizing Him as a fellow Man and my big Brother too, because the Bible tells me that He is both. I'm not at issue here. I have shown you what I believe and what the Bible says. It's your own self that you have to deal with. If you think that there is some way around things that the Bible says unequivocally, then that is a problem that you, not I, have.

For me and any other Bible-believing Christian, we simply cannot consider anyone who rejects either the Deity or the Humanity of Jesus Christ a brother or sister, because the Bible says that they are not. That is all.

You obviously have not taken notice that All the man, who Saw and Recognised Him, bowed and worshipped Him, even though He appeared to look like a man, First the wise-men from the east, then the disciples when they recognised Who He was, then my beautiful wise lady who cried for His Forgiveness in Luke 7, and the dying thief!

All these Recognised Who He was and Is and they paid Full Respect to His Greatness and not a one ever got any reprimand or chastisement for Fully Honouring Him as The Lord God, while in His Presence, in the likeness of man!

Ihedinobi3:
This is what you said:

"Error, Mr Corrections, The Lord, Jesus, The Christ, is not a man!

He only Came down and Took Up our form, but He is Not one of Us."

I'm not sure how anyone can misunderstand that. If Jesus is not a man, then He is not a man. But the Bible is clear that He is. The Bible is also clear that He is God. The Bible is also clear that it is only by believing both things along with the truth of His Sacrifice for us on the Cross that we are saved. The question is whether you agree with the Bible or not. So far, I am not sure that you do, but that really is your problem, not mine. I'm just pointing it out to you for what good it might do you.

I understand your intentions but this is the wisdom, if and when a king takes up the clothes of the poor, is he the poor?

And does the clothing prevent him from being a king, deserving of honour and fear?

I believe that you would agree with me that the Right and Accurate Answers to these questions posed is "No", He is a king with and without the clothings of the poor.

And even with the clothings of the poor, he remaineth a king still, retaining all his honour and fear!

For any who dealeth with the king, though he wear the clothings of the poor, as one who is poor, such a one is not wise at all!

When you kill in your heart you have murdered!

orisa37:
YES.

That's why He is Called God of creation
There at the start, Before the beginning of time, With no point of reference.
Which is why All nature and science Follow the sound of Your Voice!

And Creations Obey Him, SO WILL I!

AntiChristian:
This killing is not warranted. There's no law in the Bible that supports this.

Wrong! There are many many Laws which justify it, with the First being "Fear The Lord Always"

Then Exodus 23:7 "Keep thee far from a false matter; and the innocent and righteous slay thou not: for I will not justify the wicked.

20 Behold, I send an Angel (or Anyone whom is Sent by God) before thee, to keep thee in the way, and to bring thee into the place which I have prepared.

21 Beware of him, and obey his voice, provoke him not; for he will not pardon your transgressions: for my name is in him.

Leviticus 19: Thou shalt not curse the deaf (the blind or any who suffers from any infirmity or deformity) BUT SHALL FEAR THY GOD (Law 1 up there).

Deuteronomy 18: 22

22 When a prophet speaketh in the name of the Lord, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the Lord hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.

His words came to pass before that day but they refused to Fear and lo, the Prophet of God spoke and lo, it is done!

Fear The Lord and All His Messengers!

And teach your children to do so!

AntiChristian:
Of cos, I am married with kid...
I know how the parents of those 42 kids would feel loosing their kids.

Kids are kids and should not be killed. A massacre of kids.

See now, you have Abandoned the Rightness of the Judgment over the kids which is your Query and Shifted to the feelings of the parents (Adults) thereby Abandoning the feeling of the Prophet (another Adult) who was the Sufferer of An Unprovoked and Unmerited Attack to his person and dignity from 42 souls.

Do you know the great pain one suffers when a few kids, lets say 3, mock and ridicule you continuously? Then, let those 3 wicked children be 42

He had even showed restraint by ignoring them, but they did not let up.

Ihedinobi3:
For what it is worth...

John's Gospel was written specifically to demonstrate that Jesus was God Himself come in the flesh. His first epistle too was written to point out the importance of believing that He was truly Human just as He was truly God. Among the things he said in that epistle was the argument that the Spirit, the water and the blood were all witnesses to the humanity of Jesus Christ (1 John 5:6,8 ). The Spirit clearly witnessed to the Humanity of our Lord through so very many things: the Virgin Birth, the miracles, the real death on the Cross, and the Resurrection, to mention some very important proofs. The water and the blood of John 19:34 proved too that the Lord's body was a real human body. It was no illusion or any kind of gimmick.

John insists in his epistle that it is impossible to be saved if one does not believe that Jesus is both fully and truly God and fully and truly Man.

2 By this you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God, 3 and every spirit that does not confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not of God. And this is the spirit of the Antichrist, which you have heard was coming, and is now already in the world.
1 John 4:2-3 (NKJV)

So, I would be careful about continuing down this path that you seem to like so much. The Scriptures are clear that rejection of either the Deity or the true Humanity of Jesus Christ is proof that one is not only not a child of God, but also that one is of the antichrist.

Ah! You misunderstand us, we do not reject The Lord Jesus Christ, we Rather Love Him And we Recognise His Great Greatness over us and we are happy to keep that knowledge before our eyes Always.

Now, we further appreciate that this same Great and Mighty Lord, Left His Great High and Holy Place to visit little foolish wicked us on earth. to teach and do many many wonderful and great things for we little foolish wicked us, and All were done for our benefit and to His Holy hurt, injury and death!

And to do that, He took up our form and likeness!

Like He told Pilate, "Thou couldest have no power at all against me," we therefore recognise and seek to always remember that, The Lord Jesus Christ, is God Over and Above us Always, and we never intend to forget it even for a micro-milli-second!

Davicjoe:
Why is every govt agencies hell-bent on frustrating d lives of Nigerians? What has Nigerians done wrong?
I am very sure d officers that sealed off her shop are poverty ridden men trying to milk other people of their hard earned wealth.
There was once a country.

They are trying to provoke us to test the limits of their power and the weakness of the citizens!

Men, its time to do the Russian and French Removal. It's Time to kill these wicked rulers!

It's time or more Wickedness will be done to us and they shall take our homes, children, wives, property.

Its time to kill them!

Haha, Another Powerful Example of proof of spirit is seen in the statement "the heavy silence between them could be cut with a knife and the air was charged with palpable fear"

We have all been in this situation before and have seen it!

Ihedinobi3:
Since you must know what "partake" and "take part" both mean, what other way did you expect the translators to say that Jesus became human just like those He came to save?

Then your question and objection is moot because those words Paid Great Attention to the Knowledge of Who He Really Was and Is and the Authors never deviated from that fact

Also, the Authors knew to Always Give Full Respect to Him whenever they attempted to talk about Him and this always evident in the way they spoke about Him.

In KjV, the palpable Fear and Reverence of Him is there!

SO WILL I lyrics! Hillsong

God of creation
There at the start
Before the beginning of time
With no point of reference
You spoke to the dark
And fleshed out the wonder of light

And as You speak
A hundred billion galaxies are born
In the vapor of Your breath the planets form
If the stars were made to worship so will I
I can see Your heart in everything You've made
Every burning star
A signal fire of grace
If creation sings Your praises so will I

God of Your promise
You don't speak in vain
No syllable empty or void
For once You have spoken
All nature and science
Follow the sound of Your voice

And as You speak
A hundred billion creatures catch Your breath
Evolving in pursuit of what You said
If it all reveals Your nature so will I
I can see Your heart in everything You say
Every painted sky
A canvas of Your grace
If creation still obeys You so will I

So will I
So will I

If the stars were made to worship so will I
If the mountains bow in reverence so will I
If the oceans roar Your greatness so will I
For if everything exists to lift You high so will I
If the wind goes where You send it so will I
If the rocks cry out in silence so will I
If the sum of all our praises still falls shy
Then we'll sing again a hundred billion times

God of salvation
You chased down my heart
Through all of my failure and pride
On a hill You created
The light of the world
Abandoned in darkness to die

And as You speak
A hundred billion failures disappear
Where You lost Your life so I could find it here
If You left the grave behind You so will I
I can see Your heart in everything You've done
Every part designed in a work of art called love
If You gladly chose surrender so will I
I can see Your heart
Eight billion different ways
Every precious one
A child You died to save
If You gave Your life to love them so will I

Like You would again a hundred billion times
But what measure could amount to Your desire
You're the One who never leaves the one behind

AntiChristian:
So if your kid abuses you saying bald head you can curse am to death?

I still don't understand your point. There's a time to kill harmless kids?

Are you a parent and do you actively partake in raising your kids in the way of Good Conduct?

For saying this, you are a male and you have never been around the children therefore, you do not know the Great Pain that they can inflict and this is aside the unruly and badly behaved children, who Willfully inflict Such great pain, oh, you do not know!

You will when you have your own kids!

jesusjnr1:
If I assumed you had problems with me or what I do here, you're the one to blame because you made the bolded comment before mine:

You didn't even say righteousness minds his business here, but that you have no problems with him, but "Jesus on the otherhand..." so doesn't that imply that you personally have problems with me for not minding my business here even if you didn't literally state it?

That's your own business though if you have no qualms with what y'all atheists do here minding other people's businesses in this religious section, but have a grouse with what I do here within my own territory.

I am not complaining but you guys should not also complain if you receive it hot when you trespass.

Come on, do not come down so hard on him, for he has been a gentleman and reasonable here. He has only put down his own observation which may be right or wrong and he has offered you an opportunity to set it right for him or if he is right, then you can do the Right-full!

DeusXmachina:
While I may not agree, I thank you for providing better insight into where you're coming from.

I would like to ask more questions, but that would result in a never ending back and forth.

I would really appreciate it if you could bring forth those questions for I will like to know if this stand can be made to fall!

So please do advance, them let me appreciate the fact that this road too could be validly opposed and that the end of it too can not be Reasonably concluded.

For it is my Truest view that after this answer, there can really be no reasonable and valid pursuit thereafter.

But you say that you could proceed with further query, so I would really love to see what inroads you could make at least!

Wakeupchristian:
This is the absolute truth. The sooner we understand this in christianity,,the better it will be for us.

Thank you my brother, thank you for these sweet words of Truth. Oh, how my soul longed to hear another say these Truths.

Sinlessness is what God Wants and Righteousness, is the Standard but many who claim to be like Christ, do not want to accept these Truths Repeated since the beginning and Consistent through all seasons.

Rendering the word of The Lord, who has clearly said "I am The Lord, I Change Not" which Clearly means that He would not change, His Laws will never change, His Standards will never Change and "As it was in the beginning, so shall it be and shall it Always be".

But they desire not these Truths but choose Wishful and Hopefull Things!

Ihedinobi3:
I'm pretty sure the Bible disagrees with both of you.

14 Inasmuch then as the children have partaken of flesh and blood, He Himself likewise shared in the same, that through death He might destroy him who had the power of death, that is, the devil, 15 and release those who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage. 16 For indeed He does not give aid to angels, but He does give aid to the seed of Abraham. 17 Therefore, in all things He had to be made like His brethren, that He might be a merciful and faithful High Priest in things pertaining to God, to make propitiation for the sins of the people. 18 For in that He Himself has suffered, being tempted, He is able to aid those who are tempted.
Hebrews 2:14-18 (NKJV)

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Without reading through your whole post, 2 Accurate words Stick Out "Partaken," and "shared in" then I saw the emboldened word "like" in the Statement "He had to be made like His brethren", you have expressly expressed the very words Establishing our Claim.

In KjV Hebrews 2 is written "took part" which Clearly means that a person was not there at the beginning but he put himself into the transaction.

Which is proven by John 1, 1-4; 6-11 and Mathew11, 1-6.

Corrections:
Thanks................I completely agree with you. Jesus is a spirit from God that came to earth to live among men as human being ( man ). Even while living among men on earth his words were spirit and life from God in heaven. I only used that tittle for easy understanding.

I'm thankful you understand and the main reason I thought you should change the the header is because of the many False Prophets here who shall come to pervert The Truth!

These antichrists and haters of God love Ambiguity, therefore Accuracy is their Enemy!