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sonmvayina:
Does this make sense now..?

No it does not

1) I am God, yet I can not warn the simple small flies not to enter my house. I can not warn the mosquitoes not to bite me. I can not tell the sun to not be too hot when I enter it, yet you say that man, that can not even stop himself from dying, is a god?

Surely, your thinking of who a God should be is of a Low Power entity, let me describe it as a Two Stroke engine.

But it is your own 2Stroke engine god. I don't want 2Stroke engine gods, I Want Limitless One. A Power we can immeasurable!

There is no need to proceed since you prefer weak gods who are many and terminate one another when they have conflicts with each other.

However, it is your preference.

2) if I made me surely, I must know when I made me, and I must know everything that I put in and outside me, yet everyday my other fellow gods are always saying that their still learning how things work in the body they made.

Let me not proceed any further with the query of your imaginative construction or you guys in a cult?

Now I must think that you escaped from some mental facility, (I am not insulting you but pointing out an observation in your thinking process) if your thinking is like this, which appears to be something one may describe as the oxymoronic "reasonable madman".

sonmvayina:
Does this make sense now..?

You are simply restating and repeating your "man is God" belief and not answering the question put to you.

Therefore I take it that you can not Reconcile your "man is God" with your "God is inside man" belief and that it would NEVER BE ANSWERED!

SO THEREFORE, YOU FORFEIT AND CONCEED DEFEAT BECAUSE YOU ARE UNABLE TO PROVIDE ANY ANSWER AS TO THE FOUNDATION OF YOUR CONCEPT OF GOD!

THEREFORE YOUR CONCEPT OF GOD HAS NO FOUNDATION AND IS THEREFORE IMAGINARY, SINCE YOU COULD NOT PROVIDE THE FOUNDATION OF IT WHEN REQUESTED!

SO, YOU HAVE LOST THIS ROAD ALREADY!

Let me go to the grounds you presented since you are not able to go Deeper!

Righteousness89:
GOD Almighty is very Interested on who rules or leads His People on Earth.
He is never ...

In these end of days? You do know what end times or end of days means? You do know that All He Said Must be done?

So shall things not go according to how the end must come?

If yes, then surely you must know that Righteousness can not be in these days for all men will be evil, or did you not know that?

AntiChristian:
See another one! If a father sheds the blood of his beloved son, is that one a good father

Part 1
THE GREAT GOODNESS OF THE FATHER IS SEEN IN THE FACT that the Father was very very Angry with certain of His children, WHO GREATLY OFFENDED HIM AND EVEN AFTER HE TOLD THEM AND SHOWED THEM HOW THEY HAVE OFFENDED HIM, AND THAT THEY WILL NOT LIKE IT NOR ACCEPT IT, IF THAT SAME OFFENCE IS DONE TO THEM.

NOW, Instead of those Offending children to say that they understand that what they do was Wrong and that they were sorry for doing it, and that they would not do it (what is called Repentance), those crazy children said that the Father Should do His worst (as Nigerians would say).

To you-
If your phone offends you would you wait?(remember you created it). Oya lie make we see you, common your neighbour or houseboy wey you no create, see how you dey destroy them when they offend you! Yet you would think yourself good. Women, you know you are already disqualified here.

Oya men, your employees and servants wey una no create nko? Una no dey sleep with the girls wey dey work for una, just because she dey serve una? Oya lie, and when those girls no gree give una, (offence don come be that), una no give the girl, your own version of lake of Fire? Oya lie! Men, don fall be dat.

Shey una see una life? God wey create us, no do any of these things.

Abeg, let me continue with He Who is Greatly Gooder than All of una joor.

Part 2
And the Father Told these Stupid Children Again and Again, "That if I should look upon your offences, I would hotly deal with you and there is no one who can stop Me".

But the Foolish children said, again "Do your worst" and they did not listen to Him! They even laughed at Him, and because He was Watching them and hoping that they would see that they are being foolish, the Foolish children then Started Insulting and Mocking Him.

If your phone insult you, shall you be patient?

After all these Insults, The Father looked at His Cherished Son and Discussed the Problem with Him. The Son now said He would come and talk to us and to show us that He was from God, He came to do all those things which we feel and know that a God can do, that is, the world of Impossibilities known to us being broken, including the mighty death we fear.

Thereby, showing us that Death is his servant.

And the Son also came with another purpose, to be a Holy Gift of A Lamb for a Sin Offering, in accordance with the Law of Cleansing from Sins, for those children who do not want God's Anger Poured on them because they have offended Him.

SO, HOW HAS THE FATHER BEEN GREATLY GOOD, IT IS SEEN IN THAT HE WAS

1) Patient With Inconsequentials Who Offended Him.
2) Witheld Their Punishment And allowed them.
3) While Still Holding Their Punishment In Abeyance, He Sent High Emissaries to Counsel Them.
4) He Still Gave them A way, as we say, Clues or Hints, so that they can still escape His Impending Great Anger.

THIS IS THE CASE OF A GOOD FATHER AND A FAITHFULL SON WORKING TOGETHER TO SAVE OTHER OFFENDING AND OFFENSIVE LOW QUALITY CHILDREN, FROM VEXATION AND HARM AND DANGER!

IF THIS IS NOT GOOD, THEN YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT IS GOOD!

sonmvayina:
Lol, you are not even reading what I am typing..so sad,
Well all I am saying is that we are not this body. This body is just a vessel or a house for in dwelling of the spirit..The real us or self is the spirit that is dwelling in it..and the spirit is Gods spirit..just as the psalmist says in psalm 104:29-31 " send forth YOUR SPIRIT and they are created and replenish the earth, take it and they die and return back to dust ".....

It is not rocket science..

You are only Wasting Energy Repeating your earlier Answer talking about the Origin of the body of the man, which is not the question advanced.

The question is, can you reconcile how God is, "Man is God" and "God is inside man", at the same time, according to you?

Or are you unable to?

achorladey:
Jesus preached forgiveness but did Jesus forgive Judas Iscariot?

21Then Peter came to Him and said, “Lord, how often shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? Up to seven times?” 22Jesus said to him, “I do not say to you, up to seven times, but up to seventy times seven.

And why?

23Therefore if you bring your gift to the altar, and there remember that your brother has something against you, 24 leave your gift there before the altar, and go your way. First be reconciled to your brother, and then come and offer your gift.

Moreover if your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault between you and him alone. If he hears you, you have gained your brother.

Did Jesus lay bare the sins of Judas? Yes he did

Did Judas hear Jesus, Yes long before he carried it out


Was what Judas did, blasphemy against the Holy Spirit?

Why was it unforgivable?

The two questions above brings another dimension into the whole SAGA

The first question is very clear but the second one is.. most people, infact I have not yet met anyone who who knows and understands what "blasphemy" means and how wide an area it covers.

sonmvayina:
All, they all saying same thing ..God (spirit )is dwelling inside the body.

Man is God spirit +dust of the earth.I.e we are Gods spirit dwelling in a vessel and having a human experience.

God spirit is residing in the vessel, that is why it is a living soul...

I hope it is clearer now?

Sonmvayina, you are yet to respond, you lose if you fail to respond for it would be taking that you forfeited because you are not able to provide a reasonable and sensible Support (Truth) as Foundation for your Daydream and Wishful Thinkings and Imaginations and All the things that are Not Real and True!

But I will wait, I am not in a hurry to determine these proceedings, I am only just pointing out that it does not look good for you, if you fail to Answer, for it is you who alleged

The Law of Truth Finding! - "He who alleges, Must Prove!"

BlueAngel444:
Judas was sorry and performed one of the most taught in church religious act of restitution. He returned the money, he confessed to his religious leaders. Judas did both, he was sorry and he returned the money, at the time Jesus was not even killed, he was just been maltreated. So Judas only told them where Jesus was, and he it was not like he wanted him to be mistreated nor die, abi?

Just like someone pointed out about Peter, let me ask this who did Peter confess to, did he offers prayers to God for denying His Son.

Good observation, but there are many things still missing and one of which is his last act.

Consider this, what is the judgment of the Answer Script of a Student who brought his Answers from outside the examination hall at the time of submission?

BlueAngel444:
Was what Judas did, blasphemy against the Holy Spirit?

Why was it unforgivable?


This questions are for people to learn.

Bullseye! Right in the Realm of it!

And do people learn? Only 0.1% do. The other 99.9% Never, and the curious thing is that they have seen that they made the same errors their elders made and have the same results, there elders did, but do they learn? No!

BlueAngel444:
interesting, so you are saying Jesus probably didn't forgive Peter. But isn't forgiveness letting go of wrong done. Didn't Jesus let go?

So if it wasn't written that Jesus forgave Peter, it not being written for Judas, and they both doing what was predestined could mean they were forgiven?

Or I could get from your view that Jesus held what Judas did against Him while he didn't for what Peter did?



Or maybe even before they did what they did, Jesus had forgiven one and not the other, like God loved Jacob but not Esau.

He Already has given you an Omnibus Answer,
which is "He Does Not know"

zataxs:
Christians love human sacrifices, by killing Jesus and blood flowing our into the ground. God must really be so happy right? God was not happy with sheep, or even Jephthah's daughter, no he wanted more blood.
So he had to see a human being killed and tortured and bloodied just like the mayans used to do.

I know you are an indomie child, therefore, you were born into a world full of lies and cover ups and you have never seen or known the Truth.

So this is one of the things you do not know, yet you know.

If I wrongly take your carton of indomie would it be just, right and equal if I give you a bottle of mineral in return?

Would you not complain and seek to take everything I own, even if it is more than the value of the indomie I took, BECAUSE, YOU MUST BE COMPENSATED for my wrong taking?

Surely, you would not complain if I returned the carton of indomie at the first and this is aside giving Compensation for the wrongful taking.

So, it is with The Lord, man has taken things including "blood" which does not belong to him but to The Lord, so therefore, if we do not want The Lord to pour His Anger on us (like you would have done if I did not begin by giving the indomie, first) justice and Right and Balance Dictate that, we must give Him the things we have wrongfully taken from Him, in Equal Measure, at the least.

This is the place of the Natural Law of Justice of "An Eye, for, an eye".

Kobojunkie:
I am afraid I can't provide you with an answer on behalf of Jesus Christ? I don't even know if Jesus Christ even believed at any point that Judas trespassed against Him. I do know that Jesus Christ was previously aware that Judas would betray Him, not sure if Jesus Christ taught that was bad of Judas or just what Judas was meant to do.

As you have said "you do not know", so, it is best you say only that which you do know.

AntiChristian:
No forgiveness needed na! Since the biblical Jesus was sent to die...

Didn't he die for Judas' sin too? Jesus made no mistake in choosing Judas as one of his disciples. Judas was a Christian too infact one of the greatest disciples of Jesus. Cos without him Jesus' blood won't have been shed. And the theory of vicarious atonement would be incomplete!

The father loves blood especially his son's!

For all of you looking for the antichrist, hope you have seen one is here? Exactly as the Lord said!

BlueAngel444:
Jesus preached forgiveness but did Jesus forgive Judas Iscariot?
And why?

Did you not hear that it was better for Judas not to be born?

You obviously do not know how great Judas's crime was and that it was unforgivable. And remember, there are unforgivable sins.

tobechi74:
Law don't favor children

That is not correct, The Law is only respecting and Protecting the Truth that children are endangered in being cheated out of their Rights or being shortchanged from their Full Rights or they may go above and beyond their Rights, thereby causing a breach if they are allowed to handle their own matters, by themselves.

And that is of course No Reasonable person can be expected to put serious matters, in the hands of children.

And that is besides the fact that we all know how intelligent and reasonable children are.

Sulele04:
watch them they will say it is false christianity, when christianity itself is false.

How can the practice of taking out time to be in touch with the Creator be false?

Thattallgirl:
So why are well meaning Christians who do all these and many more still struggling? Still finding it hard to earn a living?

You say they do these things, do they really do them or they appear to do them?

In my opinion, they do them not, for if they Truly did it, the Result will be Obtained. For it is like entering Agofure to Warri. If you do not enter Agofure, you would have to make your own Warri.

AtoningBlood:
Please don't presume, I do not have any one who is deceased in my family. I believe in yea is yea, and no means no.

If you know any law in Nigeria stating the rules for minors claiming their benefits, please state it, I have gone through pencom and other sites, no definite answers. It's an assignment, and I just need better information on my findings, reason why I brought it here. Your assumption is wrong, but I take it that you may not know any Nigeria law clearly spelling out the procedures.

the widow also have her entitlements to her claims, but the company wants to separate the kids claims from hers, so they can be properly managed and used for the children education and other personal benefits meant for the kids.

Thanks.

@Dominique, if you can help me push this, I will be glad.

The First Law is Minors even though they have Rights, Can Not Directly and by themselves, seek enforcement of their Rights.

Minors can only do so through An Approved Adult.

Now, why would anyone give you this Assignment when you are not a lawyer? Since it's been given to you, then you have to go see a lawyer for the full Counsel.

Full legal counsel that is not life threatening, may not be given here and should not be given here, for everyone has their role and sustenance in the society.

So as God's Law States, "Give To Everyone, his Due!"

Visit a lawyer to Resolve All, do not cheat a person out of his due.

Kobojunkie:
I wonder how an adult of say 50 can become like a child in body? Does He expect to squeeze himself back down to the same size he was as a child? NO
Can a 50-year-old soul revert back to that of the, say its 10-yr old self?

Bad Bible means bad Interpretation like reading a law out of a teacher's notebook rather than the gazette, you will surely be misled when it matters the most.

On 50year old soul
That is why The Lord too, did not explain, it is meant to be discovered!

Kobojunkiee:
In other news, Jesus Christ did stipulate that only those who become like children in their thinking will earn a place in His Kingdom... no adults welcome.

This is Fraudulent! And the Offence of Adding to the Bible!

Christ Never Said "become like children in their thinking" He clearly said "...Except ye be converted, and become as little children,.."

ePoster:
Am I the world? Why are you attacking me?

If the society looks down on single mothers, then it has no right to tell women not to have abortions when necessary!
Imagine a girl was sexually abuse and became pregnant as a result,
If she keeps the child, then she's a single mum to be looked down on.
If she aborts the child, then she's evil.

Hypocritical, right?

The people of this world are very consistent in being inconsistent with good values and principles.

They always shift from side to side based on who is the sufferer and who can not be affected. "Just is" and balance is an abomination to them and they hate every right judgment.

AtoningBlood:
It's an assignment, I can't question why the company needs this but am sure it's sure the the future of the deceased.

An Assignment? You failed to mention that you were undertaking an Assignment.

I presume it is the deceased property you wish to dispose, and therefore, the wife of the deceased is in issue.

Flowing from this I am very suspicious of your intentions at this point and I do not believe it is for a good purpose.

Without Reasonable and believable cause, I can never be in support of family members Stealing or Attempting to Steal the property of a deceased husband under the guise of protection of the children!

Nobody go fight for the man wey come back from Ajegunle oh!

ePoster:
Our society is one that condemns single-motherhood...

So why should anyone force a woman to accept responsibilities that she would later be stigmatized for?

Because of religion?
Your morals shouldn't dictate what others 'can' and 'can not' do.

Your faith doesn't permit abortion?

Great! Don't do it.

But that doesn't place you in the position to judge anyone. Especially those who don't care what you believe in.

Killing of an unborn baby hurts your heart?

Too bad! No one lives their life for you. Deal with the bitter truth!

People have the right to make decisions that wouldn't favor you.

Girl, are you bitter! You already know that this is just a world that speaks from the 2 sides of its mouth, of which you have also done the same.

The same world that says "Good, is good" is still the same that says "what is wrong with an evil thing?

Rubbish world!

Op, It is already practiced without any hindrance save personal rights, so there is no problem

virtual7:
To a large extent, yes I am.

Then, continue in your works, The One Who Matches the husband with his wife, knoweth All and He dispenseth as He Deems Fit!

But what I have seen is that a good wife can not be found, Exactly As the Bible Said. (Na bad wife na im dey market, as you have confirmed)

However, a good wife is Given by The Lord, but Only to Righteous Men. And this is were the Yoruba adage is Instructive in saying "God no dey give bad animal, horn".

AtoningBlood:
What does the Nigerian law say about the financial claims of a minor? Is the Minor entitled to a separate bank/funding account or the claims can be paid to the mother? We are trying to ensure the deceased (father) kids get all their financial entitlement and channelled to their education and other personal care items without the mother diverting the funds.
@Dominique, kindly help me.
Thanks.

Oh, ok, you do not trust and believe that the welfare of the children would be well protected by the mother.

Mmh! This is going to be a difficult, first the children being minors are slightly incapacitated, they have to act through an Adult.

And their mother is an Adult!

Solution, Unless you can Prove (irrefutable Proof, which I have seen that people are not able to surmount) to the satisfaction of the Court that she will not be a good guardian to her children, the children are in the graces of their mother.

In the alternative, your family can actively supervise the welfare of the children!

virtual7:
Is it possible to go somewhere with a group of people and then get raped, and still go ahead and date the rapist knowing fully well he did it?
Tales some girls tell for losing virginity, I'm tired.
Getting a good wife is giving me tough time

Are you a good husband that you should be given or get a "good wife"?

sonmvayina:
All, they all saying same thing ..God (spirit )is dwelling inside the body.

Man is God spirit +dust of the earth.I.e we are Gods spirit dwelling in a vessel and having a human experience.

God spirit is residing in the vessel, that is why it is a living soul...

I hope it is clearer now?

You made it worse. I could not believe that you would play for the 3 Answers (Actually, I expected it)

All 3 Positions, Actually 2 Positions? (since "dwelling in a vessel" and "God is inside the body of man" is really the same thing)

Really? You appear desparate in claiming both Positions in the hope you can Stand somewhere.

Do you not see that your Dual Positions are inconsistent and Cancel Out each other?

And the fact that you chose to stand on them both clearly shows that you are playing kalo-kalo (gambling) which, again, clearly shows uncertainty! It is exactly like a student supplying 2 Opposing Answers to 1 question, This is Fraudulent and No point is given upon a Fraud!

So, what say you and how do you want to proceed?

ochibuogwu5:
Knowledge (revelational + experiential + written + taught) allows someone to see patterns so that they can use intuition to develop "rules of thumb" that allow them to deal with new situations.

Knowledge is Know, Ledge! Did you get it?

sonmvayina:
Common, you are more knowledgeable than that..

You can not rely on my knowledge to aid you most especially as we of contrary opinions. Notwithstanding, this is an opportunity for you to establish your case and you would have to do that by the strength of your own knowledge and not on the reliance on mine. So, do so, make your case, take me as your student while you are the Scholar.

My part is to ask reasonable questions, while you supply the Irrebutable or irrefutable Answers, Then I will do the clapping in honour and praise to your knowledge.

So that is what is before us, so let's go on.

sonmvayina:
..this body is a vessel, it was created or fashioned from the dust of the earth as a dwelling for the spirit of God...God spirit is residing in it, that is what makes it a living soul, at death it merely goes back to God. It was Gods property to begin with. And the vessel becomes or goes back to dus.

The question is not about the body or vessel of man and what happens to it, that one is settled and as you have already supplied the answer, saying, "it is from the dust of the earth,"

The question I put forward earlier which is begging for an answer is, First, you say "God is inside my body" and then you say "man is God",
Now you have just added another one in the mix, which is "God spirit is residing in it,(it meaning body)" so now, Which is it?

A Follower of Christ can not be anxious, therefore any who is anxious, does not believe The Lord!