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Christianity Etc › Re: Which Book Of The Bible Made You Start Doubting? by Dtruthspeaker: 10:43am On Aug 01, 2020
sonmvayina:
The gospel of Mathew... I knew at once when he mention that "a virgin will give birth.. In reference to the Isaiah story.. I know he was lying.. Isaiah was talking about his wife and his soon to be born son, as a sign and assurance for king Ahaz that the two kings plotting against him will not succeed..I knew that the Jesus story was questionable.. Much letter I discovered he never even existed.. Just a made up character..
You have no right to speak about Mathew and Isaiah, you said they do not exist because they are Jewish histories and a fabrication.

So based on your Biased and Pre-judgded position on the Bible, these things do not concern you and your comments are Prohibited here, for as a child you do not know what you say neither are you in a position to say that it is untrue.
Christianity Etc › Re: Isaac Or Ishmael: Who Did God Command Abraham To Offer As A Sacrifice? by Dtruthspeaker: 10:24am On Aug 01, 2020
marvrick:
The account of the journey of Abraham into Canaan is filled with contradictions and outright impossibilities that makes it quite unbelievable. Take for example the king of Gerardo finding old Sarah still attractive despite the fact that the Bible already cast her as old and already way past menopause in an earlier verse.

So a whole king of Gerar, a philistine land cannot find more beautiful and younger women for his pleasure?
I do not know what you read but Sarah was very very beautiful and I know you and I have seen very beautiful women who were still beautiful even past their 50's, so that it is not unusual.

I know you are a womaniser, so surely, you know that the desiring of beautiful women is not restricted by age and youth or ability to birth a child, as even Proven by Romans and Sexuality Section in Nairaland here.

And a king knows that too, so nothing unusual here either.

marvrick:
And what about Abraham? Was the Bible right in calling Isaac Abraham's only son?
Yes it is, for we see that Abraham INTENDED to stay loyal to his True Wife (as a man thinketh, so is he). Therefore, his true son is the son born of his wife as he had AT ALL TIMES INTENDED!

And it is reported that he had only one son, in Accordance With His True Intention, Therefore the Bible account is True and in order.

marvrick:
Also, should Abraham's unquestioning execution of God's command a sign of his loyalty or should we conclude that his seeming trust/faith was simply because he knew he would still have one son even after offering Isaac?
What you do not see is that by that time, Abraham had accommolated a great amount of information about Who God was and is, which God saw and therefore Examined him, to see if Abraham Truly Knew what he (Abraham) had learnt about Him.

Again, Nothing unusual about this
Christianity Etc › Re: Isaac Or Ishmael: Who Did God Command Abraham To Offer As A Sacrifice? by Dtruthspeaker: 9:51am On Aug 01, 2020
marvrick:
Hello fellow Nairalanders? My question for the day is somewhat controversial and has the potential of causing needless distress if not treated with openness and well grounded research. It is the matter of the sacrifice Abraham was ordered to make, using his son as the sacrificial animal. The Muslims believe Ishmael was the son that Abraham was commanded to offer. But both the Jews and Christians believe Isaac was the sacrificial lamb!

The answer to this question holds the secret to the true God that should be worshipped. It's either Ishmael or Isaac, either Jehovah or Allah, either the Bible or the Quran. One has got to be a lie for the other to be true.

Personally I doubt both accounts.
First it was not A Commandment but a Promotional Exam.

Secondly, I love the Highest and His Holy Son, so I know that Isaac was not meant to be a sacrifice, which is the purpose of An Examination, with the Examined Never Knowing the Outcome of the Exam.

But he is simply to Provide his own Truest Answer to the Question put to him.
Christianity Etc › Re: Similarities Between Islam And Christianity But Why The Hate by Dtruthspeaker: 9:17am On Aug 01, 2020
emmy512:
Us? God is a forgiving one as the bible says, and we don't see any wrong doing in the part of ismael,
There isn't anything to forgive here but what is the issue is why Ishmealites continue to Hate us and seek our enslavement and utter destruction continuously?

Really you should not bother to answer because the Lord had already told us what Ishmael shall be

"And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him; and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren."

Which ye always do.

So, we understand why you hate us and cometh against everyone and why we must resist your hatred for us, Exactly As It Is Written!
Christianity Etc › Re: Similarities Between Islam And Christianity But Why The Hate by Dtruthspeaker: 8:46am On Aug 01, 2020
emmy512:
Hey guys, I've been having this thought and wonder what would be the cause for xtians and islam to be at loggerheads when both their holy book have same stories, same characters just different namesbby language.
Going through my quran it talks about mary, jesus, abraham etc and I wonder why majority have enmity for each other.

Your input needed.
Our spirits are not the same and by their history, they are the children of what they call an illegitimate child and children of the rejected.

And it is seen in this world, that the rejected children always hate and envy the accepted children of the house.

So they hate us.

And since they hate us and seek to do wickedness to us, therefore, we avoid them for their desire to hurt us.
Christianity Etc › Re: Which Book Of The Bible Made You Start Doubting? by Dtruthspeaker: 8:04am On Aug 01, 2020
Xavfra:
Describing your God..... grin wink
No surprise here after all your mouth and anus are one and the same thing.
Christianity Etc › Re: Believers Shouldn't Argue With Atheists/unbelievers by Dtruthspeaker: 8:42pm On Jul 31, 2020
desiredhome:
Still cannot understand, how we have replaced True SOUl winning with winning MEMBERS........

They believe when they have crowd they are winning souls even when over 60% of that crowd don't know God.......
These are not soul winning days but the days of Separation, Lovers of God vs. Haters of God and the the undecided, have a decision to make.
Christianity Etc › Re: Believers Shouldn't Argue With Atheists/unbelievers by Dtruthspeaker: 8:38pm On Jul 31, 2020
petra1:
You're right . We may win a debate but winning a debate does not constitute winning their soul. But at the same time we need to understand that debate is not totally wrong . It gives opportunities to present facts , sow doubts to wrong ideology. The holy spirit do the rest .

Acts 19:9
But when divers were hardened, and believed not, but spake evil of that way before the multitude, he departed from them, and separated the disciples, disputing daily in the school of one Tyrannus.



The only thing I found wrong here is when argument get messy and degenerate into abuses .

2Ti 2:24 — 2Ti 2:25
And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient, In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;
Seconded!
Christianity Etc › Re: Which Book Of The Bible Made You Start Doubting? by Dtruthspeaker: 8:31pm On Jul 31, 2020
Xavfra:
A very foolish God that creates a problem and punishes others because of it
A very Foolish creature is one who drinks Poison to see if it is poison and blames everything and everybody for his foolish Self-cide, as he dies, in his foolishness!
Christianity Etc › Re: Which Book Of The Bible Made You Start Doubting? by Dtruthspeaker: 8:26pm On Jul 31, 2020
EVILFOREST:
I have just a Question 4u...?
Please were you there...? Or the same story that was told to me was also explained to you..?
I have an answer for you...?

Please, how did you know that it was a fairy tale, where you there? Was the same story not told to you and explained to you..?
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists Dare Explain This ! by Dtruthspeaker: 8:13pm On Jul 31, 2020
kingxsamz:
The clown really fall my hand. grin
I thought he would come up with one unreasonable excuse.
grin grin grin
Thank you, thank you, thank you!

I never thought you could ever pass a fair and true judgment but this is splendid.

So, with this Pronouncement, I respectfully bow out!
Christianity Etc › Re: The Truth You Must Realise by Dtruthspeaker: 8:04pm On Jul 31, 2020
0temSapien:
There has never been a stretch of 1000 years without somebody attempting to jump inside a river. So how is the doctor qualified as a god when many people have been attempting that feat year in year out? Let me tell you things that can make people see you as a god if you do them.

1. Be the first to compile histories of billions of years which has never been done for thousands of years before.
2. Be the first to score plenty goals never scored within a football season as Messi did.
3. Be the first to invent electricity.
4. Be the first to encage gods like Jehovah, Allah and thousands of other religious gods.
5. Be the first to bring back a language which has not been spoken for thousands of years.
6. Be the first to invent technology that can shoot people straight into other planets where the humanoids are.
7. Be the first to do a successful brain transplant which may never have been done in thousands of years.
8. Be the first to know how to speak all the languages of the world, something nobody had ever known how to do for thousands of years.
9. Be the first to digitize human brains such that you can actually see the content of your brain, watch movies in your brain with your eyes shut, etc.

These are a tip off the iceberg of what people have never achieved in a thousand years, not jumping into a river which people do on a daily basis. I believe that I have schooled you enough. Thanks and happy weekends. wink
grin oh! You are very funny! grin

Oh, the 1000 year is another important detail? Ok so the Wright Brothers are your gods eh? One died (your god dey die) of simple Typhoid Fever and the second one na Fear kill am grin ok oh: Carl Benz, Henry Ford and Sakichi Toyoda are your gods? It's all right, it's your god.

I no play again I leave you with your gods!
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists Dare Explain This ! by Dtruthspeaker: 7:47pm On Jul 31, 2020
kingxsamz:
grin grin grin
Foolish question?
Because it puts you in a hard spot?
Abeg go rest.
Miracles ko.
grin are you running out of memory? i answered you but because you could not proceed with any further reasonable question, I referred you to the Circus, I even help you call them grin!

Rest now make dem come entertain you.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Truth You Must Realise by Dtruthspeaker: 4:01pm On Jul 31, 2020
0temSapien:
I was going through the Proverbs of Otem and found this interesting quotes:
Proverbs of Otem chapter 4
1. To overcome a god, first bind him and cast him in bondage. This is done to Yahweh and Allah and all gods who support religion above brain-using.
The same thing is done to overcome a dog or a cow or a collection of people as APC and Buhari have done to you, even a paper in the wind too. Overcoming, nothing special there.

But when No one dares to even challenges you, not to talk of striving to Overcome, yeah, that is Real Power!

0temSapien:
2. If a billion homo fear to attempt to do a thing for a thousand years, he who goes ahead to do it shall be made a god to them.
grin hahaha! Whoo! Very funny indeed! Like the Doctor guy that threw himself into the sea (never done before) is god to you. Ok oh! Or the first to drink sniper (never done before) or the first president and governors and LG Chairmen, never done before.

No wahala after all it is your own god!
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists Dare Explain This ! by Dtruthspeaker: 3:35pm On Jul 31, 2020
kingxsamz:
Eyah, sorry, I didn't ask for a sermon.
I only wanted a simple answer to my question.
Let someone else answer since you can't.
Eyah, ekpele, you asked a foolish question deserving of a sermon.
Christianity Etc › Re: For Those Of You Listening To Worldly Music Listen To This by Dtruthspeaker: 3:22pm On Jul 31, 2020
delkuf:
That is your take brother. what work for you may not work for me. I don't like listening to worldly music because it makes me lose focus and draw my mine away from God. I don't see any good Christian arguing about this
There is nothing to argue for as you said truly, it is my take.
Christianity Etc › Re: Which Book Of The Bible Made You Start Doubting? by Dtruthspeaker: 3:09pm On Jul 31, 2020
kingxsamz:
They call him the good god, but yet he commands men to commit genocide.
That's enough reason not to worship an invisible tyrant.
A wise King Scattereth the Wicked and bringeth the wheel over them!
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists Dare Explain This ! by Dtruthspeaker: 10:37am On Jul 31, 2020
kingxsamz:
Are you not a Christian? undecided
Don't you believe in miracles?
The question was meant for all of you.
So, why are you dodging and diverting? undecided
grin
I Love God, the Most High and His Holy Son And His Commandments and All that is His, so therefore, there are many wonderful and threedaful Works Done by the Lord God to and in man commonly called miracles.

But miracles are not to be held onto or Be lived in as the basis of living. They are simply "Gifts' from the Lord God. No one lives their lives or should live their lives based on gifts alone.

For it is Written, "man shall not live by bread or miracles alone, but On The Word (Commandment) of God".
Christianity Etc › Re: In Search Of Self by Dtruthspeaker: 9:57am On Jul 31, 2020
FOLYKAZE:
Maximus69, can you see the aspect that would interest jw?

Saw an awake magazine titled" Are You in Control of Your Life?". It has a picture of a man paddling canoe, amidst water storm, toward something like cliff.

Can you help us with Bible perspective of 'oneself'?
With humility and respect to you do I say I can and I do wish to.

What our Lord God is teaching us in the Bible is to know that First, A Creator Puts His creations were He Desires His creation to be, According to the Good Plan that the Creator has in His mind (like most cars put their engines in front of the car while in Volkswagen Beetle, it is placed at the back, in boats it is also at the back, as their creators made them)

Are you with me so far and is there any question here?
Christianity Etc › Re: For Those Of You Listening To Worldly Music Listen To This by Dtruthspeaker: 7:49am On Jul 31, 2020
delkuf:
So because it not written in the Bible, that means a Christian can listen to any type of music. How did you say you became born again
Good morning delkuf, I know you despise that guy, but even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

So in truth, this is a case of a left and right hand, but the resolution is that God is Good and He Loves and Permits Happinesses and Joys, so long as such acts are reasonable.

I Love My Vast worship albums and I would never let them go but I also remember that I picked up great wisdoms grounded in the Bible from what you call worldly music.

So therefore my Tupac and Biggie and Bustarhymes and Bonethugs etc sit peacefully along my Gospel Albums on the Authority that it is "Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man."

By their fruits, we shall know them.
Christianity Etc › Re: In Search Of Self by Dtruthspeaker: 7:22am On Jul 31, 2020
"Man's goings are of the LORD; how can a man then understand his own way?" Proverbs 20:24
Christianity Etc › Re: In Search Of Self by Dtruthspeaker: 7:05am On Jul 31, 2020
It Is Written
"the way of man is not in himself; It is not in man who walks, to direct his own steps"Jeremiah 10:23
Christianity Etc › Re: Which Book Of The Bible Made You Start Doubting? by Dtruthspeaker: 6:57am On Jul 31, 2020
EVILFOREST:
The STORY of ADAM and EVE.... in GENESIS sounds like a Fairytale
That does not mean that it is untrue! For Our Creator gave us a Fairytale Life of Sweetness and Happiness and Peace until Man let it be Ruined!
Christianity Etc › Re: Which Book Of The Bible Made You Start Doubting? by Dtruthspeaker: 6:52am On Jul 31, 2020
Because you did not understand and comprehend a story, you, who did not know anything and came to the Bible to know, Now,
because of a story, you declared, even though you still do not know, that the Bible is untrue?

How can your judgement be sound and true when you did not know that which you judge?

Is it not Professionals and Experts of a certain discourse who can authoritatively comment on that subject?

How then can a Novice like you, be a good authority, that the people may listen to him?

In those days when we read Abbott, and did not understand or comprehend it, we did not condemn physics but we only wondered why it could not be written like Modern Biology!
Christianity Etc › Re: Crucified With Christ by Dtruthspeaker: 11:02pm On Jul 30, 2020
Missyajoke:
Okay, henceforth I'll put the source in the thread. cool
Humbly appreciated mam!
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists Dare Explain This ! by Dtruthspeaker: 11:01pm On Jul 30, 2020
kingxsamz:
I'm saying A you're saying Z undecided...
I didn't ask you if they should have lost their limbs, I said why aren't miracles restoring lost body parts?
Shift one side abeg if the question is troubling you to answer.
People that your pastors healed of HIV after having sex, should they have contracted it in the first place? Clown. huh
Ok, the question is not for me, you are seeking those magicians called pastors.

Sir Doer of Magic, Xzams is finding you oh!
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Jesus God or Equal to God? by Dtruthspeaker: 10:51pm On Jul 30, 2020
Playthepianos:
Man, just see this ignoramus.
He is just a ex-disciple of LortReed who is trying to swallow up another as LortReed once swallowed him whole using this same net of wickedness and imprint.

But his spirit is still human but his former master LortRid, whew, he is Pure Unadulterated Evil and Satan himself.
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Jesus God or Equal to God? by Dtruthspeaker: 10:42pm On Jul 30, 2020
sonmvayina:
You are going through a dead jew to get to a spirit that dwels within you..
I went to the Son of the Highest, to obtain His Kingdom and His Righteousness for it is Written

"He that followeth after righteousness and mercy findeth life, righteousness, and honour."
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Jesus God or Equal to God? by Dtruthspeaker: 10:37pm On Jul 30, 2020
sonmvayina:
This is exactly what the isrealites were saying in Egypt.. Until a Pharoah that know them not took over..
Shalom.
grin
It is Written "Man's goings, are of the Lord!".
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists Dare Explain This ! by Dtruthspeaker: 10:27pm On Jul 30, 2020
kingxsamz:
Since miracles exists, why don't we see the missing body part of amputees grow back? I await your answer.

When you're ready to answer let me know
My answer remains the same, they should not have lost their limbs in the first place.
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists Dare Explain This ! by Dtruthspeaker: 5:51pm On Jul 30, 2020
kingxsamz:
Quick question.
Since miracles exists, why don't we see the missing body part of amputees grow back? I await your answer.
Because they should not have been amputated in the first place.
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Jesus God or Equal to God? by Dtruthspeaker: 5:42pm On Jul 30, 2020
sonmvayina:
Good luck.. When you are ready to wake up.. God will send you your moses. Meanwhile you can have fun in Egypt..
It is I who is awake and in the Paths of Life while you are in the congregation of the dead. For it is Written

"The man that wandereth out of the way of understanding shall remain in the congregation of the dead!"

Moses was a Deliverer, but he who is delivered, needs no deliverance, therefore, I need no Moses, for I am not in Egypt but In An Enlarged Place Flowing with Milk and Honey.

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