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TATIME:
He's an atheist, trying to psych the intelligence of Bible scholars.
So because someone has the ability to do something he should always do it even when it's not necessary?
No wonder they can't understand why God allows suffering!

We have told them tire, but like we were told, they Can Never Hear Us.

So I Just come here to play while saying the Truth, and render my opinion to only those who are Bonafide.

But for the others, it is more possible to put a beach in Gwagwalada than to teach them, you could have as well as have a converse with the wall.

IkwerrePikin:
Don’t say his book, say man’s book!

How can someone say God regrets! It’s so disrespectful and funny to me. I can’t stop laughing at those foolish people who wrote and believe that crap!

My God does not regret and will never regret because God knows the future and God is not man.

Ehen, you get your god now, why you come dey disturb us with our own God Story?

Go your god make e give you E Own Story!

TATIME:
Ability to know doesn't implies willingness to know!

Please now let him go, do not tell him the answer, he is not bonafide!

IkwerrePikin:
Na your god dey regret no be my God.

Ah ah! See this man oh, No be You talk say U no dey do again?

See Confusion! Abi na your brain bin dey tosh wen U write this nonsense post

Otematum dey wait U, E sef na god and E no get any wahala, so you fit go meet am, e dey find costumer.

We are happy to give you a Letter of Recommendation to Otematum or to LortReed.

I see Otematum has reached out to you.

IkwerrePikin:
Because you’re in the dark and you believe what you can’t prove! So funny.

Do you christians think? A bible written by Man says “God regrets and you’re okay with it and defending it!

Na your god dey regret no be my God.

Ah! There He is! You Have finally Come out!

Send me the number of the person disturbing you.

We do not want Olodos (not an insult, just trying to say that the church is not for you, like some people who have to go to Special Schools for their own educatement), the church (Abi your church no be church,) is not able to cater for your educational needs, after All these Years of Study, yet you can not able to understand this simple question.

Also send me your teachers numbers and by teachers I mean your pastors, priest and those who were supposed to have taught, let me examine them, so that I may do the needful to them.

But to you, I think it wise you should go into the world as you are and may be you will learn may be not.

But send me those numbers, no one has a right to disturb you.

I do not have power today for lengthy arguments so I will give you my shortest answer in my next response.

But I think you really do not care for the answer, but you are just frustrated that Nothing is working for you, even though you have prayed to God.

For I believe that today or yesterday is not the first time that you have read that passage and you did not care then, so I would say do not care about it now.

For no one plants a stone and expects to get Yam, but my people who call themselves Christians men, you guys are amazing, Na una dey hope to win lottery when una no buy ticket or una wan go Abroad, yet una no get Passport.

Una go go farm no carry how and cutlass but Una go say God go do am, wen time finish una dey expect to harvest plenty plenty corn and egusi, yet Na the bush wey leave for the beginning na im una go come meet, then una Hala "God, You no dey hear?"

Den una go come talk say God no dey!

For Una Stupid mind, God na Messenger. Alright! Kwantinu!

Biko, God No Dey for You- E Don Travel!

IkwerrePikin:
Because you’re in the dark and you believe what you can’t prove! So funny.

Do you christians think? A bible written by Man says “God regrets and you’re okay with it and defending it!

Na your god dey regret no be my God.

Ah! There He is! You Have finally Come out!

Send me the number of the person disturbing you.

We do not want Olodos (not an insult, just trying to say that the church is not for you, like some people who have to go to Special Schools for their own educatement), the church (Abi your church no be church,) is not able to cater for your educational needs, even after All these Years of Serious Study, as you are not able to understand this simple quest

Also send me your teachers numbers and by teachers I mean your pastors, priest and those who were supposed to have taught, let me examine them, so that I may do the needful to them.

But to you, I think it wise you should go into the world as you are and may be you will learn may be not.

But send me those numbers, no one has a right to disturb you.

I do not have power today for lengthy arguments so I will give you my shortest answer in my next response.

But I think you really do not care for the answer, but you are just frustrated that Nothing is working for you, even though you have prayed to God.

For I believe that today or yesterday is not the first time that you have read that passage and you did not care then, so I would say do not care about it now.

For no one plants a stone and expects to get Yam, but my people who call themselves Christians men, you guys are amazing, Na una dey hope to win lottery when una no buy ticket or una wan go Abroad, yet una no get Passport.

For Una Stupid mind, God na Messenger. Alright! Kwantinu!

LordYahweh:
The world would literally be a perfect place if prayers worked.

The world would have been a perfect place if men refused to do Wickedness!

You may not have even had the need to pray, for Everything Would have been Provided For!

Judybash93:
Noah's flood account?

Being a woman according to your moniker, would you like men to come in daily and Rape You Sore, Take Away those little possessions you have suffered to gather, and even turn you to sex slave and entertainment, like the girl who has just come back from Lebanony, would you want to live with those Brute Beasts?

Would you not like to travel to Abuja by Road and not be Kidnapped, or come back from work at night and not fear no harm, or eat only natural fruits and vegetables which have never caused cancers and diseases?

Shall it not be good to Delete All Evil People, who do all these things, if you are a Powerful Ruler who Supports Only Good?

I also see that you keep mentioning slavery, slavery, slavery, respectfully I ask, Are You in Bonds, because I think you are?

Judybash93:
You're changing the goal post and where did the general definition of a slave not having an heir come from? I don't remember saying that...

How about the Noah's flood account? I remember asking of that too

I was searching for my earlier post on this issue for it was more expansive than I wish to answer today, to bring it here.

Slaves are possessions like clothes and cars, they are Owned and they Neither Own Anything and They Can Never own Anything. And it is against Natural Law but Wicked men Always Breach Natural Law.

Servants are in the business of rendering services for a fee or bond. Bond also means Contract!

So let me go and see Noah!

Judybash93:
I've heard you boss. Have a great and fruitful life

I already have it but thanks anyway!

frank317:
U have everything u want... What a safe term to use. Well, congrats.

But we have seen how prayer worked against covid 19 and boko haram insurgent and we have seen how God has helped Nigeria get good leaders through ur prayers.

Safe? I do have all I want, houses, cars foods and drinks, work and plenty of play, leisure and ease, Peace and joy, I travel at will, tell me is there any greater than these (excluding Eternal Life which I am pursuing)? I think not, and I really do not care if there is any other, cos I think I got them all.

I did not pray against Covid or theBoko guys and I will never.

In fact what I am praying for... Has been Answered!

We have told you but you do not hear, which is not my fault. So,...

Judybash93:
You didn't address his question

Sorry love, we no dey answer dis question again!

IkwerrePikin:
Until someone explains this to me, i will not read the bible or attend any church again!

Why will the Bible say, “Almighty, Powerful and Supreme God the creator of heaven and earth, who’s knows about the future, regretted creating man?

You can only regret if you don’t know tomorrow!

Anyone who believes God regrets, that person means God does not know tomorrow! And I don’t agree with that. As long as i know and believe, my God does not regret because he knows the beginning and the end.


This is one among other bibles verses that says; God regret.
Genesis 6:6 (CSB) the Lord regretted that He had made man on the earth.

Feel free to enlighten me if you have anything to say!

Nna, who dey force you to dey go Churchu or to believe d Bible, d Person dey craze? Send me E namba make I shout on top of e head make e leave you alone.

Nna, send me dat namba quick quick!

engrchykae:
the light of God shines on the object (man) and darkness is always around, waiting to take advantage

If the light of God Shines on a man, there would not be darkness (which you are refering to called evil) at all.

All was perfect as there is no evil at all in having left and right hands, legs, eyes, ears, nostrils etc

Evil was elsewhere until man opened the door for him to enter.

And I now see, you love your darkness (Evil), so keep it to yourself and you can let it take advantage of you, as you want

I Hate Darkness (Evil) and it has no place in or around me. And it is banned from my territories and my presence, forever!

olayiwola4u:
Do you think they got there by your power? God put them whether they know it or not.

It is the Law, a good tree shall never bear an evil fruit.

The Good Lord can never give us wicked leaders and like Saul, any who fails to do good, Shall Be Removed by Him, where God Put him.

But, You people chose for yourself, from among yourselves who's shall rule over you. And Nigerians have Never Chosen that the Lord Rule of Nigeria, hence His Hand No dey Nigerian Leaders, na una hand.

GodsMopol:
Prayer is the key, with much intercession and evangelism, more people would come to the knowledge of the truth

I understand what you are saying but I think it wise to pray for Mercy and all the things I need to inherit Eternal Life, for myself, than to pray for others or even evangelize. Why?

Because, I can still Burn Today and be an Inmate in the Lake of Fire, Which I do not want.

Therefore, in all I do and say, I Watch and Pray as Paul Counseled, Knowing that I Can Always Fall into Condemnation, as Many before me have done, because of distractions, if I Fail to Watch and Pray, for myself.

As Christ said, "let the dead, bury their dead", so I say, let them pray for themselves, if they like

For just like my Eternal Life is Not Going to be their Eternal Life IF THEY DO NOT JOIN ME, So Also Shall their Eternal Torment and Damnation, is Never going to be my Eternal Torment and Damnation, IF I DO NOT JOIN THEM!

Meanwhile, i See That It is Very Easy For Me To Join Them, While, it is very Difficult For Them to Join Me.

My Brother, I will Sit down in my house and continue to walk in the way of Life that I have found, without looking for who is with me or not with me, lest I fall.

The walk and work is not done until the Lord, tells me to Enter into His Rest and till then, I will be Always Watchful, Praying Daily and Remembering His Commandments, to keep them and to walk Properly in Them as the Apostles and Righteous Men in the Bible had done before me

sophirebenitez:
Well, it's a thing of choice. Jesus has already made us free from the mosiac law. The law we should strive to now keep is the command of Christ, "love God, love the brethren"

If one wants to abstain from foods like pork, it shouldn't be on the grounds of mosiac law, cause it's no longer an issue under the new law. Whether you eat or not, it's not what justifies you.

Yes it is a thing of Choice, But Also of Understanding.

For God is the King of Law and it is from Him we Get all our good Instructions and directions of Law from.

And Everytime God First, EXPRESSLY issued a Command, He Always issued Another Command Revoking it EXPRESSLY.

E.g in Leviticus and Deuteronomy, He Said if Isreal does not keep the commandments, He shall deliver them up to their enemies.

When He Revoked that Commandment, in Jeremiah 30:10,

10Therefore fear thou not, O my servant Jacob, saith the LORD; neither be dismayed, O Israel: for, lo, I will save thee from afar, and thy seed from the land of their captivity; and Jacob shall return, and shall be in rest, and be quiet, and none shall make him afraid.

Which till today, No One has driven them out of the land.

That is why we know that He Has Not Revoked or Repealed the Old Testaments, it's Laws and it's Consequences, for there is No Express Declaration Repealing or Revoking it, Which The Lord Knows That He Must Do, else the Commandments shall continue to be in effect forever.

olayiwola4u:
You are right... Curse will follow, but those who will curse the leader will partake in the lake of fire.

Those who curse a Good leader for a wicked purpose or bad intentions shall surely Partake in the Lake of Fire, like Korah and Dathan and Abiram!

Judybash93:
the thing? Lol Well, why aren't you the richest man on earth now. I have a feeling that must have been included in your prayers as well. that's actually something that's possible

sweet heart, I Have Everything I want!

That is why I am even here on nairaland, on a Monday Morning and I do not fret.

All these through the Accurate Use and Many Understandings, of How Prayers work!

Judybash93:
Abraham, the chosen servant of God, had his bond servants, whose condition was similar to, or worse than, that of our slaves. He considered them as his property, to be bought and sold as any other property which he owned. In Genesis xvii, 13, 23, 27, we are told that God commanded Abraham to circumcise all his bond-servants, bought with his money, and that Abraham obeyed God’s commandment on this same day.

Great!

You are still Proving my case, Genesis 17 was the Second Act of Abram's Obedience to God, which is the Introductory Stages of A Righteous Man, he was learning the steps and Laws of the Righteous God at this time.

And see in Chapter 15:3, before your chapter 17, he had said the same "one born in my house is mine heir".

Shall a slave, according to your wicked meaning of the word slave, ever be a heir? Never!

which is why I asked which Righteous Kept slaves.

Judybash93:
It was inscribed in the in the Bible and from what was said, it was legal to own another person as property. There's was no mention of anyone being righteous or not. Abraham was righteous in the eyes of God and he owned slaves. Moreover, God allegedly spoke to him directly.

Please show your proof where Abraham owned slaves and not servants or labourers or employees as we call such people today.

Judybash93:
People only pray for things that they think are possible. In other words, those things can either happen or not. Prayer isn't a reliable tool to get what one wants, so why use it?

That is what people say when they do not know how to use a thing.

In Nigeria they say "d ting no dey work Jo!"

Judybash93:
So, i guess you support slavery as it was supported in the Bible and Noah's flood account?

Come on, No where in the Bible did a Righteous man keep a Slave only employees or servants.

There is a great between a slave and a servant, which I have addressed before with someone else in another thread, please permit me short cut.

And at least, you do not contest that the Bible speaks the truth, which is the foundation of my living with it which is what Be, Live - Begin to Live means.

Judybash93:
We were told that the Bible is the inspired word of god. How did you as an individual believe in this? You seem to believe the Bible wholeheartedly...

I believe the Bible whole heartedly because It said the Truth, I Checked to see if it was True, and lo, it is True!

I Love Truths and I hate lies, it is as simple as that!

sonmvayina:
In the case of tithes, the Israelites practiced theocracy. God was their king and tithe was a form of tax.. 10% of your harvest. Which the leviites where commanded to collect for maintaining the temple and caring for the less privileged in the society... But Nigeria is a democracy.. We are expected to pay our tax to the government.. Joshua chapter 1and 2

Those paying tithe to pastors should be arrested for tax eversion and the pastors collecting should be arrested for fraud..

Tithe is not a Tax, even though they resemble each other.

Tax is a wicked Creation of men, but Tithe is Something Else, That is Good, and Good Children are already doing it.

And like Christ Asked Peter "who are the people that pay taxes, is it the Children of the House or Strangers?"

That question should give you an idea of what God Has in His Heart!

jmoore:
Interpret from a biblical point of view!!

See verses below for better insight.

9:16 In the case of a will, it is necessary to prove the death of the one who made it,

9:17 because a will is in force only when somebody has died; it never takes effect while the one who made it is living.

9:18 This is why even the first covenant was not put into effect without blood.

Thank God this Statement is Made by Paul, A Lawyer Himself who was simply Explaining to the Hebrews, How and What the Mighty and Glorious did what He did.

And Especially the Unexpected dying part, why it was necessary for Him to do it which Was In Fulfilment of the Commandment in Exodus, which you will see in Hebrews Chapters 3,4,5 to 9.

He Talks about Abiding with the Law of Sin Offerings Detailed in Exodus, word for word.

jmoore:
Interpret from a biblical point of view!!

See verses below for better insight.

 Hebrews 9:15 For this reason Christ is the mediator of a new covenant, that those who are called may receive the promised eternal inheritance--now that he has died as a ransom to set them free from the sins committed under the first covenant.

9:16 In the case of a will, it is necessary to prove the death of the one who made it,

9:17 because a will is in force only when somebody has died; it never takes effect while the one who made it is living.

9:18 This is why even the first covenant was not put into effect without blood.

Good, The Bible is The Book of Law and Life!

"Hebrews 9:15 For this reason Christ is the mediator of a new covenant, that those who are called may receive the promised eternal inheritance--now that he has died as a ransom to set them free from the sins committed under the first covenant"

By this statement, what New Thing can you see that happened when Christ Came?

I have seen one, which is the discarding of the use of "Unblemished Lambs and birds" being Substituted with the A Holy Lamb from Outside this World, Holy and Pure (and of course you know our Unblemished Lambs are not Holy when Compared to Him, so Therefore, He is Definitely Greater And Better than a Billion Unblemished Lambs and goats and dove) Only Available for Those of us who want God to Forgive us Our Offences in Line with the Commandment Already Provided for our Redemption, So That we can escape His Anger as Caused By the Offences we Daily give to Him, when we do not watch ourselves!

Kobojunkie:
Ok. But I don't see the addition of that is relevant to the discussion or the questions I asked.

Your earlier answer in rebutal to Truespeak was to the effect that what people call old Testament is Abolished and Rendered Inoperative, but we are saying until it is Expressly Repealed, as it was Expressly Made, it Remains in Force and in Effect Forever!

Kobojunkie:
What are you talking about?

I mean the curses associated with the Old covenant as specified in Deuteronomy 28. Those curses are on those who do not obey the commandments just as the blessings are for those who obey the commandments.

The old testament laws have nothing to do with Abraham , neither did Abraham sign it. Moses was the one who God gave it to and it was ratified before the people of Israel entered the land of Canaan.

"Ratified" you must be a lawyer or studying law, interesting.

Deuteronomy is About Moses, in his final days, Reminding the People to Keep and Obey The Laws, He had Obtained from God already, which he painstakingly went through each one of them, for his own personal confirmation that he has delivered God's Laws to his people.

The Laws were given an Issued in Mount Sinai from Exodus 19 to 40, where Abraham's Children are Claimed by the Lord, in Line with the Agreement God Had with Abraham.

The Contract with Isaac and Jacob is Simply A Restatement of it. Nothing was added to it, Nothing was removed from it which is what Truespeak is saying.

butterfly777:
Who says tithing has gone with the Old Testament? Read your Bible.

Jesus says we should tithe, without neglecting other doctrines of God.

Luke 11:42.
But woe to you Pharisees! For you tithe mint and rue and all manner of herbs, and pass by justice and the love of God. These you ought to have done, without leaving the others undone.

Like many other doctrines of God, tithing started in the old testament and continues in our new testament.

Be blessed.

Oh oh ooh! This is Another Good One! I have not seen these words in a long time.

jmoore:
You are not getting it. A new testament takes effect after death.

And we are saying a Testament Is Always made by A Living Person, it is Not A will.

A will is a Special Testament made by the Living, in Preparation for his demise, Covering Matters he has Not Settled Before His Death or he shall not be able to settle before his death.

Therefore, what you call New Testament did not Come into Effect Before His death (which is not a death but we little people call it death), But It Was In Effect Immediately it was Declared, as an Affidavit!

Kobojunkie:
from wikipedia



On the old Covenant, Jesus Christ did not abolish or amend it. He instead presented us with a new one as promised by God in Jeremiah 31, and Ezekiel 36

A Will is Always Made by the Living Covering Matters which He Has Made No Pronouncement Upon!

Hence Christ, From the Beginning Was Answering This Question in Advance, Immediately He Commenced His Teaching and Therefore, has Pronounced On It and therefore, it takes Effect!

If He wanted to Stop it's Effect, He Shall Pronounce On it Again, As He has Always Done Before, for Other Laws, Which He Has Not Done, even till today!

I am Sure You Do Not Know that Christ is A Lawyer, So He Always Knows What He is Saying and Doing!