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cheerruper,

this is a great idea. guess most of those fella's who sent posts either dont know abuja well, or dont understand the concept and nitty gritty of car racing. but am down, and we could work something out. maybe u could buzz me, -08037863608.

laterzzzzzzzzz

like it or not, these pastors have a way of sneaking up on your attention. come back home folks, every sinner knows chris oyakilome by name and face, his name is synanymous with miracles. and as for grammar, take chris okotie, want some funkified americanised preaching, paul adefarasin will readily come to your mind. and the list goes long on.like it or not, they have their space and your attention. and as for the question of their celebriety status being right or wrong, i will just say even jesus was a celebriety in his days. but make una wait oh, how what happens to all those offerings and tithes under their care? am not suggesting it's helps a long way in tushing up their celebriety status oh. i no wan carry sin.

the guy is a proper slacker. if it was me, we would have gone far  beyound a bloody kiss. i would have had you moaning and groaning under me long before now. in any case i have very kissable lips too. and am willing to help out and do beyound kissing.

are u down honey

am in love with you chicky. and i will love you till seperation or dirvorce do us part. but on a condition that you allow me unlimited access to your "centre of excellence". do we have a deal

Has Ruggedman Lost His Teeth?

as long as my wheel dey turn , my fire go burn. ruggedman(ehen)

I don speak my mind and i go still speak more, you either love me or hate me, it's peace or war. ruggedman(peace or war)

Those were the very words of the diss man when he made a grand entry into the music scene.He was smoking hot and literaly siezed the airwaves. no doubt, ruggedman unsettled a lot of nerves and stepped on the toes of some of the industry's big boyz who could not stomach his constructive criticism. and with his verbal whipping style, he rose to the top. maybe so dreaded he was that none of his diss victims ever gave him a concrete response (at least publicly).

But ruggedman seems to have been rapping like mumu and doing a lot of copy copy lately.the faze and omotola collabo's seem to suggest he has deviated from his original style, and has stop speaking for shoe makers, mechanics and those who hear a kind of rap they don't understand. plus that he hasnt done anything for himself lyrically lately seem to suggest he's sloping down the music hill. folks who thought he came to re-arrange the music scene can't help but wonder if he has been softened by the game or has joined the regular packs of medioretes. no offence, but, but me thinks rugged is slacking, and just wish he will continue to spit diss as he use to.

my thinking, you?

@ omoifa,
I am still amazed at the references you always hinge your arguments on. Will you please tell me where or how (figuratively or literally) the press made it clear they are biased so that I will not continuing arguing with you on that. But I should at the same time tell you  am well learned and don’t need any newspaper article to interpret political or economical issues. So you still insist our media is biased huh? What about New York times who is neutral in this issue? And jerry Rawlings who is supposes to be obasanjo’s friend, but has chosen to voice out against this madness of 3rd term? Did I hear you say they are not Nigerians and their opinions should not count? (Of course not)
    All adverts for and aginst third term are paid for. Should I tell you most of our media houses that have chosen to anti third term have a choice not to take pro-third term advert if they want to. How? All adverts are booked in advance, and most times they have adverts accruing for a while, and sometimes they cannot even meet the time deadline given to them by advertisers. So they can choose what they want to publish because there are enough adverts to choose from. Ask your acclaimed friends in the press, they will tell you. 
  Am happy you responded to the THISDAY issue. Of course they said they were giving (as they had been doing) the pro-third term campaigners room for expression. Given the strength of a company like leaders and company (publishers of thisday), they could choose not to have published that advert without any financial or commercial implication. Any strongly biased organization will not be financially induced. So your allegation that they got about 20 million does not hold water. And even with the criticisms that followed, have thisday stopped 3rd term campaigners from using their forum?  Again, that is taking your defence of third term to an unreasonable proportion.

And listen my friend, names I mentioned are people who are associated with president obasanjo and are advocating third term. But if I will mention renowned professionals and of course ELDER STATESMEN, who are opposed to third term, I will give you up a thousand names that have NEVER severed in any government, been government officials and have never benefited directly from any government but are opposed to third term. Most are even worn out and are just a breath away from the grave, but refuse to be roped into supporting the illegality of third term. So that is for your assumption that elder statesmen have in your words “improvised us in our 46 years of existence”. I will rather just say in clear terms that people I was referring to have never been politicians or held power and therefore had no chance of improvishing us.

Talking about “ 120 million Nigerians don’t give a damn about who governs them and all they want is a good life”, which your support was hinged on popularized low voters turn out everywhere in the word. I will tell you straight away that was a very wrong example and a Bloody excuse. Have you taken the stress and discomfort associated with voter’s quee into consideration?  If there is a statistics on an election day, can you convieniently determine the sick and disabled? Could it also be that people (majority of whom are poor) who are suppose to be voters will just primarily concern themselves with their basic needs and not bother to quee up because it wouldn’t put that day’s bread on their table or fishes on their hook?  Do you know those same people who won’t be bothered by voting still at the end of the day scramble to monitor election results? They still take time out to argue election results in tea\coffee shops, bars and other public places. And where they lack electronic gadgets, they stand across shops who have large screen TV’s to see the polls.  On what research, discovery or any meaningful (and of course logical) explanation will you (a scientist) give that most people all over the world don’t give a damn about who governs them? Your explanation defies ALL the rules of Logic you claim you try to follow as far as it takes you.
         And they wouldn’t give a damn if he rules for 200 or 2 years if he provides a good life? Then to my question. Have the better population of Nigeria tasted the Good life? Perception, my friend signifies reality. Majority of Nigerian still live below poverty line. When Macon Hawkins of Texas was released by the militants in Niger-Delta, he couldn’t but express worries over the precarious situation of the slums in the oil producing communities. All he said was the need for the United States to pressurize Nigerian leaders on the need to take care of their people. Of course, his assessment of the situation is genuinely the true portrait of the Nigerians masses in whose lives poverty is already reigning supreme. The situation in the Niger-Delta creeks is similar to those of Nigerians living in the slums of Nyanyan, Mararaba, ldu-Karimo and other suburbs of Abuja, most of them a stone throw distance to Aso Rock. Are you then telling us Obasanjo probably needs only four years more to actually transform Nigeria, even if the task has been too laborious for him in eight years. Nigeria’s destiny is certainly not in the hands of an Obasanjo.So going by your judgment; obasanjo has not delivered (at least to those people). Do I still at this point need to tell you majority of Nigerians give a damn about who govern them? It’s just me and you (the literates) that can really see that some reforms and programmes that are meant to benefit the populace is being put in place. But to the Villager who has to walk some kilometers to get stream water, and still doesn’t know what electricity is, and who’s village route is not motor able, my dear omoifa, they heap curses on their leaders everyday and yearn for a better change. I traveled from my base in Abuja to Kogi states and somewhere called Anyigba late last year. There I met a poor widow who told me she walks (on foot) over a 15 kilometer journey every fourth night to hawk a ware of 70 naira! Does that my friend sound to you like someone who has tasted the good life and would wish obasanjo a Sit-tight agenda or will simply not be bothered by who is in charge?  So like you, “don’t equate your thoughts to 120 millions” because “that is simply arrogant and mischievous”. The people we refer to as the majority are not me and you who live in Abuja, Lagos and other urban places. They are those that reside in torture jungles that even the Enumerators refused going to. They make bulk of the population and know nothing about mortgages and all your “Good Life” explanations. To these set of people, obasanjo’s government has failed and they want him out.

Frank D R was allowed to continue because he did well in office. The period was after the 2nd world war which brought the great depression. Do I still need to tell you the situations are not exactly the same here? Again I ask is Obasanjo perceived to have done well?
   To the military coup example…people rejoice at new coupist because they haven’t tasted the incoming guys. But obasanjo has been tasted or tested, and I can tell confidently tell you the majority are not impressed. I won’t repeat they care who is in charge of administration. 

If obasanjo himself believes so much in the third term, why has he not made his position clear?
He has been ominously silent on the matter except for his speech in Germany sometime last year when he told an international audience that he was under tremendous pressure from some hawks to continue in office. And why the desperation the FG is displaying to make sure the 3rd term succeed at all cost? The third term debacle is actually a blessing in disguise to Nigerians and this should be acknowledged as one of those hard lessons our people must learn in order to define their approach to the future of the country. If some Nigerians had doubts about the integrity of leaders we have, they should now be convinced that they are a bunch of unaccountable and self-seeking chameleonic beings who wouldn’t think twice to auction the country itself, if given the opportunity.

If obasanjo wants policy continuity (not personality continuity) he knows more than you and me exactly where to look. He knows “fair” termites that wouldn’t eat Nigeria blind. This whole third term smacks self-aggrandizement, insult to Nigerians, and total mischief. For you to tell me obasanjo is the messiah and without him we are doomed is a big slap to every Nigerian. Including Obasanjo himself. Am not sure he (obj) will even agree with you on that one. Even frank Roosevelt did not completely and successively build all the institutions in he’s reign,. But government succession ensured the American Dream all their citizens today lay claim to.we therefore don’t need obasanjo to consolidate his failure.

If these whole scheme is meeting so much resistance and causing so much debate, isn’t that enough to let the rigged in president know better than continue heating up the polity? Did you say the press are the one’s heating up the polity? I ask if the whole heating up is not centred around him.isnt the simple thing to do is to simply disown 3rd term and all this heat will be put to rest?  Did events take this turn or cause so much Brouhaha in the FDR case?? Isn’t this a typical unpopular leader trying to foist himself on his people? My friend please give me (us) better reasons apart from the ones mentioned above.  Will you kindly also let me just a little into your personality? You may want me to know if you are a politician or a government contractor.

Gamble again? Let me explain to you what the real gamble is here. Masses have been able to judge obasanjo in the last 7 years. They don’t live your “good life”. They are not impressed by his administration. So asking him to continue in office to them is the Gamble here. They will be willing to gamble an unproductive obasanjo with the life that cannot get worse.
so your whole point from the foundation is wrong. consult ifa properly, he might have more to tell you.

Your arguments are full of holes even though they are well laid out. Firstly, if you are resident in Nigeria, then tell me who has endorsed 3rd term for the president apart from some few senators, PDP whose majority chieftains jump into every new political train. ALL our respected elder statesmen have spoken out against sucession.


And the issue of the Media being Biased, that my friend is even more laughable. Can you tell me how taking a position Translate’s into being biased? Have the media stop interviewing pro-3rd term individuals? Or do they reject the adverts from people clamoring for 3rd term? Did you see upper Thursday’s edition of thisday newspaper? The back and front was boldly adverted by some individuals clamouring for 3rd term.is that my friend your own interpretations of a biased media? It all goes beyond the sensational headlines you see, because that is how all newspaper houses all over the world sell their papers. Do you want me to refer you some opinions polls where all voters rejected 3rd term? Who are the majority you claim want 3rd term. Please give me some references. (Not the PDP endorsement oh). Will you tell me seasoned journalists like Dele sobowale or Ayo animashaun don’t know what they are writing about by voicing out against 3rd term? They annoying thing is that all pro-3rd term folks have no other argument to back their reason for a 3rd term except that a successive government will discontinue the present administrations policies. Will you tell me (us) that we have no credible press houses in Nigeria anymore? If you claim majority of Nigerians want 3rd term, and the press will always write what the people want to hear, and by extension will sell their papers, can you then tell me why or how the press will keep hammering against third term if it’s a popular opinion And if you have been reading widely, I then don’t have to tell you the Media’s opinion is well balanced. So to your opinion of a biased media, I REFUSE to be mis-informed!

Tell me who apart from you, and some crooks like Tony aneineh, bode George, and ojo madueke (who were the same people clamouring self sucession for late abacha) wants else wants third term? Did you say majority don’t give a damn about who rules them? There again my friend, you are misinformed. Maybe I should tell you politics have a whole lot of religious and ethnic undertones attached. And how many people do you think actually live a normal good life right now? Maybe me and you are a little lucky. Can the same be said for the folks in deep thick villages who are poverty stricken? Who live from hand to mouth? And are killed on constant bases by diseases which might not cost up to 2,000 to cure. Will you then still tell me those people who make up a majority of the population won’t give a damn about who rules them? Will they just sleep over who the person presiding over them while they are being subjected to a miserable life? They might be helpless, but definitely unconcerned.

And to the issue of gambling, you said in one of your posts “we should stop gambling”. I guess you didn’t see my response was figurative. In any case, what I was saying was that most developed countries had successive government that did various things to better the lots of their people. if changing government like it is done in most democratic systems we try to emulate is gambling, so be it. Nigeria did not start and will not end with president obasanjo. Did you say the constitution should be amended so that we should continue to enjoy the good governance obj is giving? Hmmmm. Is somebody not also sounding authoritative and speaking for over 120 million Nigerians here? And to your questions about horses, I have just one response. Will Obasanjo not find one good successor among the other 50% who are not established termites (using your language) ? Remember he still has a little over a year to the end of his tenure if he’s sincere. To your advice that I should stake out my earnings and gamble if I feel like. Thanks so much for the unsolicited advice. Will find my way to Las-Vegas when am ready, and won’t need to be told where to go.

Finally my friend, if you are familiar with all sit-tight African leaders stories, you will know they start out like obasanjo is doing. Trying to make everyone believe their countries won’t survive without them. Does president obasanjo want history to record him with the likes of Mugabe, mobutu sese seko, mattew kerekou, Sani abacha, and late idi amin of Uganda? How do you know he won’t want a 4th and maybe 5th time eventually? I will still tell you Nigeria may not even get to the promise land in his (obj) life time, but what he does now will still have an inpact 30 years from now. Does he at this stage of his life want to set a bad precedent? Suppose if the amendment is successful, and you or me get there tomorrow, wont we re-emend the constitution to accommodate us for as long as we want by conveniently recalling the obasanjo’s example. Theses my friend and many more are the dangers of obj having a third term. i still stand by my post that majority of nigerians are against third term. and my dear omoifa, i await your response.

and to all thees brings one question, will OBJ actualise this (his) 3rd term agenda? and if he's a democrat as he will want all nigerians to believe, then why go against the wishes of the majority of nigerians by inflicting himself (obj) on them when it's so apparent they dont want him? lastly, has it occured to anyone that this 3rd term if it float's might park off ethnic\religious violence?

if he truly loves nigeria, he should just quit and not heat up the polity. and the arguement that we will gambling if he should go doesnt hold water. all delevoped countries gambled and won. goverment is about continuity, and no one person can ever possibly reform a country. so anyone telling us the constitution should be amended to suit just one person out of 120 million should start thinking again.

given the complexity of a country like nigeria that has a legendary history of corruption and indicispline, obj has tried. looking at all his economic\social reforms, the old man has performed fairly well. and derserves some credit. but is that enough grounds for tenure elongation as omoifa is "campaigning" for? no! if he's afraid of his reforms and programmes being discontinued, then why the hell doesn't he groom a loyal sucessor and charge him with the trust of continuing his reforms? his reforms if being done in sincererity should outlive him. but some folks(like my brother omoifa) will have us believe without OBJ, nigeria cannot of 0f 120 people produce a credible leader to govern us. any policy built around a single individual is very weak and is infact no policy at all

are we forgetting julius barger? all their vehicles are numbered boldly and they run into thousands.

as everyone has rightly pointed out, they are really good at promoting their artist. but the best, NO! many criteria's have to be taken into consideration. but there's is no doubt that they are one of the biggest boyz on nigerian entertainment scene. but personally, i think they should hand over the TV and radio programmes to some young peeps and just be in charge of administration. entertainment needs young faces.

iya basira beer palour ( where i shack)

iya basira beer palour,
omo oni tomato
omo cash and carry ( allen avenue)
Fred ajadua

LoverBwoy:
Hit 'em Up is tha best diss song ever!! ethel was well placed though

who told u Nas won, Jigga is a bigga man nas is two coined(faced) gangster/preacher yea right, hes good though well just 2 albums n thats it

dont know what index u use to measure jigga as a bigger man, but i strongly disagree. will tell u more in my next post. gotta run now

@ spikedcylinder,

pu it the other way round and lets imagine u are the crippled one here. will it be "right" for a handsome none crippled guy to ask u out?

somebody should listen to benzino's "pull ur skirt up" where he literally rubbished eminem and tore him to pieces. dont get me wrong, am a big fan of eminem, but benzino got him real bad there. goood thing is they have since made up after realising record Labels were profiting from the beef.

why cant fat joe and fifty do the same

na wa oh! all these debate on a guy who does'nt even know he's being celebrated. money good oh!

tectona:
am not trying to support my friend but let me tell you where love is concerened class ,wealth or any other social status is rubbish.the fact that he is mike adenuga 's son dosen't make her inferior to him.no one knows the future ,every human is an equal before God no matter the status or wealth. why do all these rich people that marry their class end up having broken homes answer me?

now listen man, as u rightly pointed out, all human beings are equal. but the reason some are more equal than others( to borrow george orwell's language) is Economic power which translates in to money. and this has always been the main core for social stratification, as marxist theory will say.

all that talk about money and social status not being an issue where love is concerned is more in theory than reality. tell me how many rich nigerians u know that ever married an average person. just who Ibb's Children? Abiola's? Abacha's? these people always have(or is it find) a way to "fall in love" with another rich and influential person's Child.

before God, Yes we are equal. but in a society that is caught in material conciousness, nay Man, we are more equal than others.

of course they always have broken homes, but does that stop them from still Marrying another one of their class? NO!! gbenga obasanjo will still marry another Financial Don's daughter when he recover's from the effects of his Dirvorce.

as for ur friend, kindly extend my good luck regards to her. i dont need to tell her there are thousands of her out there seeking the attention of paddy and his likes. except a miracle(from rev.chris oyakilome), the best she might get is a one night stand.and that one mean say she Tight be that oh.

tell that friend of yours to wake up from her dream. except if she is related to the Abiola's,dangote's,obasanjo's and that class, then she can probably begin to wish. but e hard oh. just why do folks punish themselves with unrealistic and unecessary target?

where is skima? i hope the Bobo is reading this piece? learn from this story man

i dont have to look far. the celebriety i will like to marry is our own one and only hot-angel on nairaland. and am dead serious. so will u marry me baby

among all the three being tipped to succeded ObJ, i dare say none is a credible choice. but like the Economic phrase says "when your choice is not available, the Availbale Becomes your choice." so we just will have to pick the lesser of the three Evils. for ibb, i dont think most Nigerians have forgiven him for the Bastardizing the economy, and gross human right abuse. but he still has a lot of say within nigerian politics. Atiku is percieved to be corrupt, but lets not forget he is a protegee of Shehu Yaradua and still controls the Peoples democratic movement(PDM) which is a major block within PDP. Marwa still needs some lessons.

the fight will be between IBB and atiku. but whoever wins, its going to be a Bloody fight to finish. both are men of means and seasoned Politicians. But dont rule out the emergence of the Dark horse! Nigerians are set to watch the scene Unfold.

but if the three still remains the only choice on election day. I wont even go out to vote.

dejiolowe:
so when am i old? when i fall dead? make i just dey respect myself. these small small babes sef can kill an old man quick. snazzy, na lie?

dont worry, when u die, we(nairalanders will give u a befitting burial. be sure u remember me in ur will

snazzydawn:
somebody please wake me up!!!

Snazzydawn, is this real? i mean did ''he'' actually walked out on u?

Like they say..Cry a river,Build a bridge and get the hell over it!

for her to be HIV positive and am not could mean the girl had played an away match. how she got infected will come into the issue. if no reasonable convincing explanation is offered, then ..so long! but if i can be convinced(be it a well packaged lie) that she wasnt sleeping around, i will hang on and support her till death comes calling. but Marriage?? OTI O! that is the end of that.