₦airaland Forum

Sagamite:
Because of injury.

And you think he is going to be on the bench for the next 6 months too?

I will take Yakubu but he is too static; he should not be a starter. I will prefer Martins and Uche upfront.

Sagamite:
Explain the word maestro and inform us how this applies to these 2 players in midfield especially Nedum Onuoha that is a Defender.

I was just about to say the same thing. Onouha is a defender and Etuhu is a holding midfielder and we have better ones than him.

Sagamite:
Are you havin a laff!

1) Isaac Promise that was a failure in attack in Olympics?
2) Isaac Promise that has been sent on loan to a lower (turkish league 2) by his Turkish club?
3) Isaac Promise that is a striker is a creative midfielder to you?
4) Martins is a big burly striker not a lean and quick one?
5) Obinna is burly?

Major League Bleep me!!! The types you see on NL!!!

I agree with you; Isaac Promise is useless.

semid:
GOALKEEPERS
Vincent Enyeama, Dele Aiyenugba, Austin Ejide

DEFENDERS
Joseph Yobo, Dele Adeleye, Daniel Shittu, Apam Onyekachi, Elderson Echiejile, Taiye Taiwo, Yusuf Mohammed, Olubayo Adefemi  
(Notice I put Echiejile and Mohammed before Taiwo and Adeleye cos I prefer them to the latter two).

MIDFIELDERS
Mikel Obi, Seyi Olofinjana, Femi Ajilore, Kalu Uche, Sanni kaita, Dickson Etuhu (yet to make an impact in the S. Eagles though but plays v.well for his club).

ATTACKERS
Osaze Odemwingie, Chinedu Obasi Ogbuke, Obafemi Martins, Yakubu Aiyegbeni, Ikechukwu Uche, Joseph Akpala/Kanu Nwankwo
(How I wish Kanu could be dropped - he has no relevance in the team but alas Amodu no get the liver).

STANDBY PLAYERS
Greg Etafia, Yusuf Ayila, King Osanga, Eneramo, Rabiu Ibrahim, Lukman Haruna (As much as I hate him, he's a decent player), Ajagun & Azeez (from U-17's), Nwankwo & Obot (from Egypt 2009).

Thats a lot of holding players. I would prefer more creative players even if they are from the U-20 or U-17. They should go for the experience. Kalu Uche played against the likes of Kenya, Tunisia, and Mozambique and he was useless. Include Ayila and Rabiu Ibrahim instead.

ndu_chucks:
beaf, well done.  I completely agree that there were war crimes commited by both sides and as suggested, the agrieved should gather evidence and take their case to the International Court.  What I find objectionable is the hate mongering exhibited by many posters as if they are the only group negatively affected by the war.  

Spreading hatred on nairaland and calling people with opposing views derrogative names will not help the cause of the agrieved.  It is time to handle legitimate grievances in a more civilized manner.  If the agrieved cannot provide adequate evidence of genocide or any other crime to the International Court, then they should stop complaining.

It is instructive to note that the Ibgo leaders including Ojukwu, current and ex Governors, the Ubas, Ngige, and others prefer not to pursue any legal claims against Nigeria and will probably not support any court action.  I don't believe the federal government is interested in such a court action either -  amnesty was provided to Biafra troops.

That is the unfortunate or fortunate state of affairs.  

It is now up to the OP and his cohorts to take whatever evidence they have to the appropriate arena instead of coming to this forum to stir the pot of hatred and tribalism.

I agree that there was genocide before the war started and it led to the creation of Biafra. I also agree that there were atrocities committed by both sides during the war; most famous being Murtala's Second division at Asaba and environs. What I find irritating is this 'we are the only victims mentality'. All sides suffered one way or the other; whether it was one one child or 100,000 children. Biafrans, answer the following questions

1. Why did Nzeogwu brutally murder Colonel Shodeinde's pregnant wife? Was she in the military?
2. Why was the Sardauna's residence shelled with women and children in it?
3. Do you think retaliation has to be equal and measured?

I have said it before and I will say it again, Eastern officers started this nonsense that we are all paying for in one way or the other. Some people will argue erroneously that all tribes were represented in the first coup and that all regions lost political and/or military persons. Some will even say that Nzeogwu is from the mid-west and he is not Igbo. I find such arguments disingenous and nonsensical. I am sorry to bring this line of argument up again but some people like to be victims and blame others for their issues conveniently forgetting certain history. As long as you continue to play the UNPROVOKED and INNOCENT victims, I will continue to remind you of history.

Take another instance, starvation during the war. Every side has to provide and dispense its resources appropriately. Read the following and make up your own mind.

From 1968 onward, the war fell into a form of stalemate, with Nigerian forces unable to make significant advances into the remaining areas of Biafran control. But another Nigerian offensive from April to June 1968 began to close the ring around the Biafrans with further advances on the two northern fronts and the capture of Port Harcourt on May 19, 1968. The blockade of the surrounded Biafrans led to a humanitarian disaster when it emerged that there was widespread civilian hunger and starvation in the besieged Igbo areas. The Biafran government claimed that Nigeria was using hunger and genocide to win the war, and sought aid from the outside world. A Nigerian commission, including British doctors from the Liverpool University School of Tropical Medicine, visited Biafra after the war[4] and concluded that the evidence of deliberate starvation was overplayed, caused by confusion between the symptoms of starvation and various tropical illnesses. While they did not doubt that starvation had occurred, it was less clear to what extent it was a result of the Nigerian blockade or the restriction of food to the civilians (to make it available to the military) by the Biafran government

http://www.statemaster.com/encyclopedia/Nigerian-Civil-War

ndu_chucks:
I repost the following questions, because their answers could help the healing process and result to looking inwards. So far only 1 poster has attempted to answer them, and the answers were provided along with insults that typify the characteristics of people whose primary motivator is not fact, history lesson, or education, but hate mongering.

If my guess is correct, not a single one of those posters who are quick to call people with differing views, Idiots, Fools, Stupid, e.t.c.,  will attempt to answer the questions. I believe they have not seriously examined their own history and are primarily filled with hate. They are toothless seccessionists that still think they will secede, and Biafra will be actualized.

I know there are other fine intellectuals of the Igbo extraction that can provide some answers to these questions:


If the hate mongers answer these questions honestly, they will see that their hate filled  posts are self defeating.  I don't expect the haters to respond because many of them are cowards -  so reading the questions and answering them in their minds is actually good enough.

These hate mongers keep talking about Genocide, but they continue to conveniently ignore the genocide the Igbos perpetrated against minority groups in the old Eastern region. This is the kind of intellectual dishonesty and superiority complex that you find in white racists. Even the dumbest white racist assumes that he is smarter than all black folks, unaware that there are black folks with superior intelligence. But just because he is white, he assumes that he is more intelligent than all blacks.

This is what many Igbos posters on this thread are doing; it is called prejudice, bias and bigotry.  These people will hide behind the internet and yap that they are brain surgeons, professors, and the like. Who gives a rats ass?

I don't have to agree with all your points but I have to agree with your post. You certainly covered the usual points of the cyber-warriors - Hate, Blaming others, bigotry, genocide, pogrom, acknowledge the sins of your fathers, insults, etc.

olafolarin:
U are o.Y.O ooooooo.on your own.RichyBlack is just fine and here to stay,

He is not on his own; RichyBlack is very biased. He does not know the meaning of moderator.

tosh_acer:
Anyone can help me?

I d not know how to help except agree with you. I suppose we should continue to address his posts whenever they smack of bias. Maybe we should also try to inform Seun somehow (I don't know how).

SapeleGuy:
Your behaviour is not proper. Let us be tough on the topic and not the individual, you can still invalidate their arguments with reason rather than relying on insults and personal attacks. Try not to bear grudges.

To think that he is the moderator. I have said it before and I will say it again, the moderator does not know what it means to be a moderator. You should either step up your game or consider your position as the moderator of this section.

SapeleGuy:
Genocide is genocide, looking for a dictionary or Geneva convention definition is very pointless, It is reminiscent of Bill Clinton's ambivalence (the numbers had not reached genocide levels) during the Rwandan episode.

It amazes me to this day that with all the intellectuals available, nobody has been able to compile a case/evidence to take to the International Criminal Courts. Going to the ICC is a practical example of doing something positive.

Relying on internet rabble rousing for something as serious as this  is doing the victims of this genocide a massive disservice, you are 'killing them twice' as you have done nothing to avenge their deaths or honour.

It will be fair to say that those indicted will come from both sides. Many of the war criminals are still alive, go after them today, strong in the knowledge that you are doing the right thing.

I agree wholeheartedly with you. What I have found is that certain people rely on the Internet for rable rousing as you call it. If certain people feel so strongly about the events in the 1960s, then they should do something productive about it instead of fanning flames of tribal hatred. But my view is that it is only cowards that will hide behind an anonymous forum such as the Internet to drum up support for an imaginary cause. I also subscribe to the notion that a majority of hausa/fulani people do not use the Internet; so why peddle hate against them on a forum that they do not use. If you want their attention, you should know where to go.

Instead of posting the information here from your bases outside Nigeria, why not relocate back to Nigeria and set up an organisation that will serve as a launchpad for your objective. All you seem to be achieving is receiving pats from fellow 'biafrans' who obviously agree with you. For those that disagree with your views, you resort to petty name-calling and insults which I find quite childish. Trading insults with anonymous people on an anonymous forum is not only pointless but it smcks of intellectual bereavement. But I suspect that you will neither relocate to Nigeria nor form an organisation to achieve your objectives; instead you will continue to post on anonymous forums, engage in back-patting with fellow cyber warriors, and insult those who do not share your views.

I am addressing the OP, other individuals like him who continue to use the Internet for a call-to-arms and the moderator RichyBlack, who does not even know what it means to moderate. The moderator not only permits a certain level of uncouthness being displayed by certain people but he sometimes resorts to insulting posters with opposing views. He also turns the eye to tribal bashing.

Replying with insults will not only be non-productive (as I will simply ignore) but it will also prove my point.

RichyBlacK:
You're not only a fool, you're also a mongrel!

You are supposed to be THE moderator. Do you know what it means to be a moderator?

190.yaris:
she can come live with me
i would gladly board her~

I hope with her three kids?

michelin89:
Didn't she see the way his brothers were beating their wives before she got married to him? Besides what the hell was she thinking when she bore him three kids?

Life is not all about your womanliness. What happened to using your brain?

I agree with you; sometimes, people can see the signs but they ignore them. Why marry into a family of cowardly boxers? To make it worse, she had three kids.

Nchara:
There is nothing like tribalism here. We cannot always shy away from the truth because it hurts. Everything is up for debate and the woman who exposed this secret goings-on on the page of a newspaper is no fool neither is she less of  a Yoruba than you. Anyways, I have sent this topic to some Nigerian Yahoo groups and it is already eliciting good responses from everyone. Many good Yorubas are genuinely disturbed by the revelation an so only someone with a hidden agenda will attempt to censor something which is already in the public domain

What are going on about? Are you a non-African? Unless you want to be mischievous and naive, then you can pretend not to be aware of the secret activities that occur whenever an African king passes on. As far as you are concerned, this is an opportunity that should not be missed; you just want to bash the Yoruba as usual. Any African, born and bred, is aware of the secret activities unless he/she wants to be disingenous.

Why should it be opened? So that you display your usual tribalistic predisposition?

I don't understand some of the judgemental comments on this thread. Why castigate him for something most are guilty of? Most people are guilty of pre-marital sex; the only difference here, is that the couple got careless.

Poster, I suggest you spend time with your baby's mother and baby. Now that she has had a child for you, try and court her. You never know, she may be the one for you. The situation has been made easier for you because your loved ones like her. So they must see something good about her.

There is no point in settling for someone you don't love. Marriage is a very serious commitment. Like someone said, if you don't love her, someone else will; and you may just regret it.

smooooooth:
a man stops chasing when they lady is serious in her saying ''NO'' most ladies dnt want a relationship, but they keep encouraging the dude by being accomodating, smiling, beating around the bush, saying things like ''look its not like i cant date u but, '' mess shit, be blunt, direct and unfriendly. the guy aint dunmb, he will get the message. no one likes to be a nuisance, the women encourage them with thier not too direct replies.

You are so correct. Women know how to get the message across when they are not interested. But sometimes, for various reasons (dry spell, gifts, attention, showing-ff to friends, making boyfriend jealous) they do not get the message across properly so that the guy can continue the chase. Once the objective is satisfied (sometimes it never is), they get nasty. Most guys don't like to have their ego bruised badly, so they get the message while some dull boys hang around like fools even when the game is over.

palmauto:
in as much as it might be understandable to have so much rage when you car goes missing, i believe a little of maturity should come into play. most especially if its not your car thats in question here.

What i realise is that people like you expect everything to happen as if it were magic. All you need to do is to be reasonable enough to understand that everything has its own limitation. Even insurance companies will give you hassles when it comes to cliams

we cant promise you heaven on earth but you can get an egde over others without trackers installed.

Please forget about these fruitless marketing campaign you are proposing. What is the point of having a tracker if it takes your firm approximately 2 weeks to locate the car? It would be useful if the car can be located immediately and recovered before it is transported to another country.

Did you read what Oyinlola wrote? The car was found in another west african country. Her dad has to spend money on the legal process to recover. It is indeterminate how long that process is.

When you have a product that assists in the quick and painless recovery of stolen cars, then my friend, you may have a good product. Until then, your poduct is worth no more than the costs of its parts.

aisha2:
Some peeps never sieze to amaze me. SO Ribadau will carry $15million and put it somewhere he can never get back just so he can frame Ibori, do you know how much that is? Abeg, enough of the conspiracy theory, face facts.

My sentiments exactly. For that amount of money, there are other ways to get at Ibori. Why spend $15 million to get Ibori charged to court, convicted and released in a short space of time? Bode George only got 2 years in prison.

@ Poster

Why do you write in a manner suggesting that you speak for most Nigerians in diaspora? Maybe you associate only with those who share your mind-set. If your post were to be accurate, why are many Nigerians returning to work in Nigeria?

ehie:
For those"Nigerians"in the diaspora,please and please keep your negative energy  and bad karma to yourselves.

You started well and made good points but why spoil it by painting all Nigerians in diaspora with the the same brush? Is the poster speaking for all nigerians in diaspora?

FBS:
Yeah and that was precisely my question. Till we get an answer (proof) we can't conclude that Ibori is the guilty man.

I don't get your argument. Did Ribadu lodge $15 million cash with the CBN or did he lodge a cheque for $15 million with the CBN. If it was a cheque, then that is evidence because the cheque will belong to Ibori, have his signature, and account number. If it was cash, then it becomes a case of one word against another. If it was cash, then I apologise but it is was a cheque, then I think you are just being pedantic.

Farida has confirmed that Ribadu did lodge the money with the CBN; do you want her to personally show it to you?

posakosa:
the subtle nuisances of tribalism

If you have noticed the other threads started by this chap, you will not refer to this thread as subtle.

must_a_far:
kilon so? Vernacular? Geesi(English) ni Vernacular mi? ti ko ba dun mo e ni nu lo gbe placard ko protest.

This is a public board for all; please share your views in a language understood by all. Thanks