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Politics / Re: Four-year Term Short, Says Jonathan by duno: 4:34pm On May 27, 2011
Demdem:

I voted for GEJ and not PDP - Una see your life now.

But come to think of it, must this chap talk? Senseless stuffs comes out from his mouth than any other thing.

@ bolded, I tire for the man oh
Politics / Re: Four-year Term Short, Says Jonathan by duno: 4:12pm On May 27, 2011
X-factoria:

But this is not the first time Jonathan has said he does not believe in a 4-year tenure for the President and Vice President.

He mentioned it in one of the first sets of interviews he granted when he was sworn in as President after Yar'adua's death. He actually said he would prefer a 5 or 6years single tenor for the President. He impressed me particularly when he analyzed the issue thus:

The President spends the first year of his 4 year tenor satisfying political associates who helped him win election and only gets down to serious business late in the first year and then up to the 3rd year. By the time the fourth year comes, he is busy preparing for re-election which is a big distraction. A lot of the decisions he would take at that time would incorporate his desires to win re-election. So, in effect, the President only has about 2.5 - 3yrs to work!

I kind of share his view but 6yrs is too much and I think 5yrs single term is ideal.



1. If he has to use the first year in settling political associates then he is really no FRESH AIR! Just same of the same.

2. IMO the past one year plus should have been his stabilizing period (according to him). By now he should have a plan of what he wants to achieve and should hit the ground running as soon as he is sworn in.
Family / Re: Help! How Can I Deal With A Difficult Child? by duno: 11:06am On May 27, 2011
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Politics / Re: GEJ Achievement Tracker - 2010 - Till 2015 by duno: 1:38pm On May 25, 2011
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Politics / Re: Jonathan: Leaner Cabinet Impossible For Now by duno: 4:53pm On May 20, 2011
^^^^ yeah right. And convenient grin grin grin grin
Religion / Re: This Is Not Another Pastor Bashing Thread! by duno: 4:35pm On May 20, 2011
violent:

I tire o, my sista!

I bet these same people would be crawling out like ants demanding Larry King's audacity to dare ask a "man of God" such a question!
geez!


Kobojunkie:

I notice you don't answer questions -- you simply attack views that do not sit well with your current level of reasoning.

What does it matter if the poster is a Christian or not? If this pastor were to sit in front of, say Larry King or Pierce Morgan and be asked this question, what answers would he give? How much does he write for himself as yearly salary from all that money collected?

Kobojunkie:


Well, the questions have been flowing but you have yet to answer a single one.
Note: You are likely aware that you are not arguing with uninformed im-beciles -- could be reason why you feel whatever answers you have will not do.

Brand_new:

These morons are too blinded to know they're been hoodwinked while the "PASTORS" All smile to the bank and solve their "spiritual needs" with the congregations money.

violent:

Charitable needs?  fcking Chraitable needs?

If Oyedepo could buy a 30million dollar jet, do you have an idea how many hungry Nigerians could be fed with that amount?

ask yourself What Would Jesus Do if he had 30 million dollars?  buy a Jet? 

Kobojunkie:

1a. At this point, it obvious from your posts that you do not have good answers and NO,you have not really provided answers, more like Attacks ( ) and rebuttals.

2a. Correction -- the man himself has given several interviews and in none has he insinuated that he made his wealth outside of the church, At least read the man's own profile to begin with.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Oyedepo

Imagine the above in a pastor's profile? What does that say of people like Bill gates who worked hard for every single penny?

At first i thought - this is another pastor bashing thread and then thot maybe not. But the above has shown this is a pastor bashing thread!!! No amount of reasoning will change the pastor bashing crusaders on NL so no more comments!
Religion / Re: This Is Not Another Pastor Bashing Thread! by duno: 4:16pm On May 20, 2011
Kobojunkie:

1. I notice you don't answer questions -- you simply attack views that do not sit well with your current level of reasoning.

What does it matter if the poster is a Christian or not? If this pastor were to sit in front of, say Larry King or Pierce Morgan and be asked this question, what answers would he give? 2. How much does he write for himself as yearly salary from all that money collected?

1. How did you come to a conclusion on that? Cos I know i answered some of his questions, though i dont claim to be a know it all.

2. As i pointed out earlier someone has to volunteer to go and ask him that cos i dont think he's on NL.
Religion / Re: This Is Not Another Pastor Bashing Thread! by duno: 4:11pm On May 20, 2011
jay bee:

It funny how the don't ask/question attitude has contributed immensely to the current state of affairs in Naij.

^^^^^ It is a good thing to ask/ question but one must also have an open mind to what is discovered/ explanations. We should be able to question our preconceived notions also

violent:

Yes, my sister attends his university, and i rememer she once mentioned something about gold

and why am i checking his profile?  huh?  why do you suppose he has a public profile to begin with?  duh! for people to read of course!

Good for you
Religion / Re: This Is Not Another Pastor Bashing Thread! by duno: 3:59pm On May 20, 2011
To be honest, i opened the thread with an open mind simply because i initially thought the dude made his money in gold business before moving into the ministry, but i was gobsmacked when i read his profile and nothing in it shows that he's been doing business previously before his calling.
This will mean that he became a billionaire profiting from the people who attended his church, to think some people find this right is totally beyond me.

Hmmm gold business? Is he from Ghana? Why were you checking out his profile in the first place. Hmmm Are you a christian?
Politics / Re: Jonathan: Leaner Cabinet Impossible For Now by duno: 3:55pm On May 20, 2011
AjanleKoko:

I'm no fan of GEJ . . . but how is this his fault? He's just telling it like it is.
We have functioned like this since 1999. Why do you all expect him to jettison the constitution just like that?

It would have been better if he had said - this cannot be achieved without constitutional amendment as such we will be sending a bill to the NASS for the amendment of the constitu,
Religion / Re: This Is Not Another Pastor Bashing Thread! by duno: 3:44pm On May 20, 2011
violent:

Charitable needs?  fcking Chraitable needs?

If Oyedepo could buy a 30million dollar jet, do you have an idea how many hungry Nigerians could be fed with that amount?

ask yourself What Would Jesus Do if he had 30 million dollars? buy a Jet? 

Brand_new:

These morons are too blinded to know they're been hoodwinked while the "PASTORS" All smile to the bank and solve their "spiritual needs" with the congregations money.

@ Violent you seem to know/have the answers to all your questions, so why bother asking us?
And yes- this is another pastor bashing thread!

Signs out
Religion / Re: This Is Not Another Pastor Bashing Thread! by duno: 3:37pm On May 20, 2011
violent:

@Duno.

For instance, it was a law to stone witches to death in the old testament, even God instructed, "thou shall not suffer a witch to live", yet this law along with several others were abolished in Chrsitiandom simply because Jesus has come to teach us the way of life, and the path to living our daily lives loving God.

Question is, why do Pastors still seem to hold on to the tithe thingy?  is this a rule of convinience?  where does Jesus or his Apostles advocate that believers should contniue to contribute 10% of their earnings for Pastors?-----I maintain this is just a massive fraud!

The Oyedepo dude has built a university, one which more than half of his church members would not have the means to attend, the dude now flys in jets, while those who blindly contributed the tithes and offerings could barely afford to survive hash times, does this seem fair?



[b]1. Does this mean that because some rules/ commands in the old testament are no longer being practise, tithing which was also mentioned in the old testament should be done away with. That is saying that the whole old testament is no longer relevant - which is not the case.

2. You seem to have the assumption that tithe is such a big amount and so that is where the bulk of church money comes from, i think offerings are more than tithes. For example if I earn 100,000, my tithe will be 10,000, it is very possible that i give an offering(sacrificial or otherwise- wont go into purpose now) of 20, 30, or 40 thousand which is far more than my tithe. I know a lot of people who give offerings which are a lot more than their tithes. At least the new testament talks about offering, so i know u wont argue with that grin grin grin

3. Lastly, i wont go into quoting scriptures or otherwise as to if tithing is wrong. I will only talk about what i have experienced (as the hausa man will ask if u try to sell a medicine to him - have u had this type of ailment before?), I tithe in obedience to God's word (bible) and i can say that i receive the blessings of tithing. If any pastor is living an ostentatious lifestyle presumably on my tithe/offering then it is left for him and God. I do know however that some (note some) churches have systems in place - church board, accounting etc with laid down procedures on how church funds are spent. Some of these pastors dont even receive salaries from the church (again) and do preach that church money is God's money and not the pastors money.

My 2 cents!

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Religion / Re: This Is Not Another Pastor Bashing Thread! by duno: 3:06pm On May 20, 2011
Yes, the topic is exactly what it says!  I am looking for opinions of broad minded knowledgeable Nigerians here.

1. How did Bishop David Oyedepo become so wealthy?

I have done a bit of research into the dude's profile and all i seem to get is;

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David O. Oyedepo, affectionately called Papa by his followers (born September 27, 1954) is a Nigerian Christian author, Preacher and the founder and Presiding Bishop of Living Faith Church World Wide also known as Winners Chapel and its affiliated International churches known as Winners Chapel International, with headquarters in Ogun State, Nigeria. He is also the senior pastor of the acclaimed Faith Tabernacle,a 50,000 seat church auditorium reputed to be the largest church auditorium in the world by the Guinness Book of Records.[1] The Winners Chapel network of churches is present in over 300 cities in all states of Nigeria, as well as in over 63 cities in 32 African Nations, Dubai, the United Kingdom and the United States of America. Oyedepo has been seen as one of pioneers of the Christian charismatic movement in Africa and has been referred to as one of the most powerful preachers in Nigeria.

. . . .blah blah blah blah!

No products sold, no tangible services rendered even the business model is not clear, and yet this man seem to have "grown" into riches!  and he's now measured in billions!

2. The intriguing question is, what exactly is the breaking point in his life? when and how did he make his first Million?  Every successful wealthy man seem to have a story in which tears, blood and sweat was shed, what exactly is this man's story?

What lessons are there to be learnt from his story?

1&2 You can book an appointment for an interview with him, he would be in the best position to answer your questions


violent:


How come no one has answered this?

this has been answered by these

cinzo:

Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it

cinzo:

Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, Wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings.
Ne 13:10-12
GBN ACC FBN JFB TSK
9 Ye are cursed with a curse: for ye have robbed me, even this whole nation.





violent:

hopefully, someone could answer this as well


The church does a lot of CSR and charitable deeds. One just needs an open mind to see them.
Politics / Re: Jonathan: Leaner Cabinet Impossible For Now by duno: 2:52pm On May 20, 2011
mbulela:

By Ahamefula Ogbu

President Goodluck Jonathan has said it is impossible to have a leaner cabinet without an amendment of the relevant sections of the 1999 Constitution which stipulate that each of the 36 states of the federation should have a representative on the Federal Executive Council.

He was responding to the suggestion of the Presidential Advisory Council (PAC), who came to pay him a thank-you-visit as they wound down on their assignment.

Jonathan told his guests that much as he preferred a leaner and more efficient cabinet, such cannot be achieved at the moment, unless the 1999 Constitution was amended.

But the PAC, which is headed by Lt-Gen. Theophilus Danjuma, (rtd.), however advised the President to exercise due diligence while picking members of his incoming cabinet by having an eye on integrity and high performance as “a man is known through the type of people around him”.

Inaugurated on March 4, 2010, the Danjuma committee, said there were well qualified Nigerians within the country and in the Diaspora to make the cabinet and get the expected results “that will create Nigeria of our expectations”.

Jonathan however thanked the PAC members for their quality recommendations, which he promised to use to set goals for the incoming cabinet members.

He promised that the recommendations will be handy for the in-coming officials as they would be exposed to the proposals for policy direction at a retreat he intends to organise after their appointments are made.

“Your suggestion for a smaller cabinet is excellent and I agree with you, but this cannot be achieved without constitutional amendment’.

Jonathan thanked them for offering themselves for service at a time the country needed direction and would continue to tap from their wealth of experience.

http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/jonathan-leaner-cabinet-impossible-for-now/91612/

So what is stopping the commencement of the amendment?
Politics / Re: Ajumobi Is An American, So Akala May Still Be Governor Of Oyo State by duno: 2:45pm On May 20, 2011
Posted by: edicolove
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Section 182 from which the suit is being filed under says:

82. (1) No person shall be qualified for election to the office of Governor of a State if -
(a) subject to the provisions of section 28 of this Constitution, he has voluntarily acquired the citizenship of a country other than Nigeria or, except in such cases as may be prescribed by the National Assembly, he has made a declaration of allegiance to such other country;

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28. (1) Subject to the other provisions of this section, a person shall
forfeit forthwith his Nigerian citizenship[b] if, not being a citizen of
Nigeria by birth,[/b] he acquires or retains the citizenship or nationality of a
country, other than Nigeria, of which he is not a citizen by birth.
(2) Any registration of a person as a citizen of Nigeria or the grant of a
certificate of naturalisation to a person who is a citizen of a country
other than Nigeria at the time of such registration or grant shall, if he
is not a citizen by birth of that other country, be conditional upon
effective renunciation of the citizenship or nationality of that other
country within a period of not more than five months from the date of such
registration or grant.

I think the bolded is clear - he will be disqualified if he is not a  citizen of Nigeria by birth (which he is - i hope) and has acquired/ retained the citizenship or nationality of another country.
Religion / Re: This Is Not Another Pastor Bashing Thread! by duno: 2:22pm On May 20, 2011
omo9ja1:

@Violent and all your follower

PLEASE READ

1.GO AND START YOUR CHURCH AND GATHERED AS MUCH PEOPLE
2.I BELIEVE YOU WERE BORN A CHRISTIAN WHY ARE YOU PROSECUTING THE BODY OF CHRIST
3.COME BACK IN A YEARS TIME AND TELL US HOW MUCH YOU MADE IN YOUR CHURCH BUSINESS
4.THIS MEN OF GOD E.G OYEDEPO,ADEBOYE,KUMUYI THEY ARE ALL GRADUATE WITH EITHER FIRST CLASS IF THEY WERE IN PUBLIC BUSINESS I GUESS YOU KNOW WHERE THEY WILL BELONG NOW.
5. YOU ARE SIMPLY JEALOUS OF THEIR RICHIES



luckynzo:

Who says Bishop Oyedepo has no tangible products or services? Do you guys think it's easy to cater for the spiritual needs of thousands of people. Do you know how many months of prayers and fasting he embarks on before any successful Shiloh event? This man has invested his entire life into God's work and deserves his reward. Give him a break.

Meldrick:

@ poster
you seem really jobless.
Instead of you to think of how to better your life and look for a job to enable you put food on your table, you are researching on another man who is doing his own job.

Keep researching on irrelevant subjects. We are looking for researchers for the cure of various life threatning ailments, you are researching rubbish. One day you will reasearch about some hot slaps on that have landed your face

GBAM!

For all those who believe pastors are reaping their congregations off hence their wealth - GO AND START YOUR OWN CHURCH and see how easy it is.

angry angry joblessness!
Nairaland / General / Re: NL Men/boys Borrow Me Ya 2 Minutes Abeg! by duno: 2:59pm On May 19, 2011
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TV/Movies / Re: Ghanaian Producers Fight Over Movie Title Osama Bin Laden” Part 1 & 2 by duno: 5:03pm On May 18, 2011
ObamaUS:

THE GENTLE TERRORIST SEASON 1
OBAMA KILLED OSAMA AS CAIN KILLED ABEL
HIS ROYAL TERRORISER,HIGH CHIEF OBAMA
AMERICAN TERRORISER
MR O.B LADEN
THE DAY OSAMA DIED

EVEN MY YORUBA PPLE WONT SAY THEY ARE NOT THERE AS TITLES LIKE THESE WILL ROLL:
ALHAJI OBAMALOMO
OJO GBOGBO NITOLE
OBAMA PA OSAMA
OLU-AYE OBAMA BIN LADIN

MY IBO PPLE:
AMADIOGHA FINALLY KILLED OSAMA
NNA OBAMA FINALLY DIE


Ghana too mumu joo


LWKMD @bolded
Fashion / Re: Is Anyone Else Sick Of Hair Attachements In Our Black Ladies? by duno: 1:19pm On May 13, 2011
stanech:

U carry woman wey u think say she fine go house, u like her 100% Immediately she start remove her body amour you go begin dislike her


First Eyelash------ 100-10   = 90%

Wig   ----------------90-20 = 70%

Padded bra  ----------  70 -  30  =    40%

Mary kay facial treatmnt-------------- 40-20  = 20%

Padded pants--------------------  20-20    = 0%


She come down from her high hills 0-20       -20%


and by then e don too late



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Phone/Internet Market / Re: blackberry curve 2 for sell by duno: 2:31pm On Apr 13, 2011
oga, u no dey pick ur phone
Politics / Re: Why Do You Support Goodluck Jonathan For President? by duno: 2:11pm On Apr 04, 2011
I may vote for him cos truthfully there are no better alternatives. Not because of what he has done ( all i see/ hear are what he plans to do). So this is hoping he will be able 2 deliver in 4 years and if not, we vote him out!
Phones / Re: Yesteryears Life Without Phones by duno: 5:02pm On Nov 22, 2010
Imanuelle:

how we used to have two whole families in our sitting room at about 2.a.m waiting for their son's international call from abroad, and how my dad used to lock the landline with a little padlock to disable us from making calls grin grin grin grin grin

grin grin grin grin grin grin grin

travelling from ago-iwoye (school) to ijebu-ode to receive/ make international calls
Celebrities / Re: Mohit Stars,who Is The Most Handsome by duno: 2:26pm On Nov 12, 2010
ski banj, igwe
Romance / Re: Help My Girlfriend Is An Obaje. by duno: 9:40pm On Oct 22, 2010
story story oh alo!!!!!
Romance / Re: This Girl Keeps Sleeping With Me. by duno: 4:41pm On Oct 22, 2010
Girl sleeping with u or U SLEEPING wit girl
when did men become the victims?
Properties / Re: To Let: New 3br Flat @ Ikosi Ketu by duno: 1:44pm On Aug 02, 2010
do you have any 3br in that area for 300/350k p.a.?
Properties / Re: 2/3 Bedroom Flat Needed: by duno: 4:53pm On Jul 26, 2010
It is possible to get but HIGHLY UNLIKELY to get it on NL. It is better your friend gets agent(s) in surulere who will be on the lookout for him.
Properties / Re: Adec Homes; For Your Property Requests And Searches: Cheap Sales And Lets by duno: 4:56pm On Jul 23, 2010
adec:

rent or for sale,
please anyone with a request should [b]kindly text/call [/b]the number provided stating their request.
we strive to serve you better and faster.
thanks

u didnt reply my enquiry. i sent a text.
Properties / Re: Adec Homes; For Your Property Requests And Searches: Cheap Sales And Lets by duno: 2:07pm On Jul 22, 2010
do you have 3 b/r flat (2t/b) in ikosi area of ketu ?
Family / Re: Is It Proper To Make My Wife Next Of Kin? by duno: 10:52am On Jul 15, 2010
josite:

in this changing and unstable times ,it is not the best to make your wife your next of kin but you should, if indeed, without her you couldnt have come this far in life and if indeed you are not bothered that she will spend your entitlements with her lover.if you have a childmake your child your next of kin.

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