duno:

GBAM!

For all those who believe pastors are reaping their congregations off hence their wealth - GO AND START YOUR OWN CHURCH and see how easy it is.

joblessness!

@Violent and all your follower

PLEASE READ

1.GO AND START YOUR CHURCH AND GATHERED AS MUCH PEOPLE
2.I BELIEVE YOU WERE BORN A CHRISTIAN WHY ARE YOU PROSECUTING THE BODY OF CHRIST
3.COME BACK IN A YEARS TIME AND TELL US HOW MUCH YOU MADE IN YOUR CHURCH BUSINESS
4.THIS MEN OF GOD E.G OYEDEPO,ADEBOYE,KUMUYI THEY ARE ALL GRADUATE WITH EITHER FIRST CLASS IF THEY WERE IN PUBLIC BUSINESS I GUESS YOU KNOW WHERE THEY WILL BELONG NOW.
5. YOU ARE SIMPLY JEALOUS OF THEIR RICHIES

GLOBAL X:

Its so funny how people could so foolish here,why raise this kind of senseless topic in the first place?,if you want to know how he made his money,take a bus to sango-ota ogun state and ask him.Dont come here to raise topics that will cause unnecessary argument.´´Foolish cow´´

violent:


How come no one has answered this?

cinzo:

Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it

cinzo:

Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, Wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings.
Ne 13:10-12
GBN ACC FBN JFB TSK
9 Ye are cursed with a curse: for ye have robbed me, even this whole nation.

violent:

hopefully, someone could answer this as well

musKeeto:

A religious guru in India just died. His name was Sai Baba. He did miracles, healings and elevated his hometown from a place synonymous with poverty to a place of wealth. He touched the people's lives in so many ways, you can google him. HE NEVER TRAVELLED TO THE WEST. INSTEAD THE WEST TRAVELLED TO THE EAST TO VISIT HIM.

You can say all you want to say, but when a PASTOR can do no wrong in your eyes, your focus might have moved from GOD to the MAN of god.

You can say all you want to say, but when a PASTOR can do no wrong in your eyes, your focus might have moved from GOD to the MAN of god

Meldrick:

I pity you. You hardly go to church now. So your going to church was to celebrate your pastor's wretched state but you were dissapointed to see he was doing well and living life to the fullest. You were going to church to look at man not God. You're in trouble oh. Stay at home because they will keep prospering and your going to church really has no effect on the church of God. Now you sit at to home to feast on hear say. I hear say this, I hear say that. Did you see the money in the tyres. shhhhh

The church does a lot of CSR and charitable deeds. One just needs an open mind to see them.

violent:

Charitable needs?  fcking Chraitable needs?

If Oyedepo could buy a 30million dollar jet, do you have an idea how many hungry Nigerians could be fed with that amount?

ask yourself What Would Jesus Do if he had 30 million dollars?  buy a Jet? 

Meldrick:

I pity you. You hardly go to church now. So your going to church was to celebrate your pastor's wretched state but you were dissapointed to see he was doing well and living life to the fullest. You were going to church to look at man not God. You're in trouble oh. Stay at home because they will keep prospering and your going to church really has no effect on the church of God. Now you sit at to home to feast on hear say. I hear say this, I hear say that. Did you see the money in the tyres. shhhhh

violent:

@Duno.

For instance, it was a law to stone witches to death in the old testament, even God instructed, "thou shall not suffer a witch to live", yet this law along with several others were abolished in Chrsitiandom simply because Jesus has come to teach us the way of life, and the path to living our daily lives loving God.

Question is, why do Pastors still seem to hold on to the tithe thingy?  is this a rule of convinience?  where does Jesus or his Apostles advocate that believers should contniue to contribute 10% of their earnings for Pastors?-----I maintain this is just a massive fraud!

The Oyedepo dude has built a university, one which more than half of his church members would not have the means to attend, the dude now flys in jets, while those who blindly contributed the tithes and offerings could barely afford to survive hash times, does this seem fair?

[b]1. Does this mean that because some rules/ commands in the old testament are no longer being practise, tithing which was also mentioned in the old testament should be done away with. That is saying that the whole old testament is no longer relevant - which is not the case.

2. You seem to have the assumption that tithe is such a big amount and so that is where the bulk of church money comes from, i think offerings are more than tithes. For example if I earn 100,000, my tithe will be 10,000, it is very possible that i give an offering(sacrificial or otherwise- wont go into purpose now) of 20, 30, or 40 thousand which is far more than my tithe. I know a lot of people who give offerings which are a lot more than their tithes. At least the new testament talks about offering, so i know u wont argue with that

3. Lastly, i wont go into quoting scriptures or otherwise as to if tithing is wrong. I will only talk about what i have experienced (as the hausa man will ask if u try to sell a medicine to him - have u had this type of ailment before?), I tithe in obedience to God's word (bible) and i can say that i receive the blessings of tithing. If any pastor is living an ostentatious lifestyle presumably on my tithe/offering then it is left for him and God. I do know however that some (note some) churches have systems in place - church board, accounting etc with laid down procedures on how church funds are spent. Some of these pastors dont even receive salaries from the church (again) and do preach that church money is God's money and not the pastors money.

My 2 cents!

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violent:

Charitable needs?  fcking Chraitable needs?

If Oyedepo could buy a 30million dollar jet, do you have an idea how many hungry Nigerians could be fed with that amount?

ask yourself What Would Jesus Do if he had 30 million dollars? buy a Jet? 

Brand_new:

These morons are too blinded to know they're been hoodwinked while the "PASTORS" All smile to the bank and solve their "spiritual needs" with the congregations money.

1. Does this mean that because some rules/ commands in the old testament are no longer being practise, tithing which was also mentioned in the old testament should be done away with. That is saying that the whole old testament is no longer relevant - which is not the case.

@ Violent you seem to know/have the answers to all your questions, so why bother asking us?
And yes- this is another pastor bashing thread!

Hmmm gold business? Is he from Ghana? Why were you checking out his profile in the first place. Hmmm Are you a christian?

duno:

Hmmm gold business? Is he from Ghana? Why were you checking out his profile in the first place. Hmmm Are you a christian?

jay bee:

It funny how the don't ask/question attitude has contributed immensely to the current state of affairs in Naij.

jay bee:

It funny how the don't ask/question attitude has contributed immensely to the current state of affairs in Naij.

violent:

Yes, my sister attends his university, and i rememer she once mentioned something about gold

and why am i checking his profile?  huh?  why do you suppose he has a public profile to begin with?  duh! for people to read of course!

Kobojunkie:

I notice you don't answer questions -- you simply attack views that do not sit well with your current level of reasoning. What does it matter if the poster is a Christian or not? If this pastor were to sit in front of, say Larry King or Pierce Morgan and be asked this question, what answers would he give? How much does he write for himself as yearly salary from all that money collected?

duno:

^^^^^ It is a good thing to ask/ question but one must also have an open mind to what is discovered/ explanations. We should be able to question our preconceived notions also

violent:

It's shocking really, and that's why leaders can get away with soooo much!

Kobojunkie:

1. I notice you don't answer questions -- you simply attack views that do not sit well with your current level of reasoning.

What does it matter if the poster is a Christian or not? If this pastor were to sit in front of, say Larry King or Pierce Morgan and be asked this question, what answers would he give? 2. How much does he write for himself as yearly salary from all that money collected?

wonderz:

@Violent,
I tried as much as possible not to compose a response. But I feel you need serious enlightenment. That you passed through the four corners of an ivory tower does not make you educated. For you to understand the mystery of kingdom wealth, it takes much more than that. I've seen comment on this thread which more than answer some of your questions but should you need further answers, leave me an email and I will get in touch with you.

duno:

1. How did you come to a conclusion on that? Cos I know i answered some of his questions, though i dont claim to be a know it all.

2. As i pointed out earlier someone has to volunteer to go and ask him that cos i dont think he's on NL.

Oyedepo has received much criticism from many in the Christian community as focusing on prosperity. Oyedepo is rated as one the world richest pastors based on all his debt free self owned assets as well as those of the church he leads. By 1998, he was already one of the 10 richest pastors in the world according to him. According to Oyedepo himself, the richest pastor in the world presently is Kenneth Copeland who has given out 27 jets to different pastors as at 10th April 2011. Bishop Oyedepo is arguably among the top three richest pastors in the world especially considering his mentor 'Enoch Adeboye'.