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4everGod:
Your comment confirms the OP. Your reasoning is limited to time and space which is where you exist same with the universe. You cannot perceive God on His realm because you are yet to unlock the eternal spirit which He has given to you as a part of His realm.

So if you cannot probe beyond your realm here how then can you conclusively say there is no God? Besides God is not a feeling, He is an inner knowing and this inner knowing is triggered via faith and resonates in your eternal spirit.

I am sorry if you have not "FELT HIM" but that is not His fault but yours.

Bro I have gone through the level of faith in life I was a very strong Christian till I started thinking again
Infact I was a spirit filled Christian I grew from baby tongues speaking to real tongue speaking I even used to think the holy spirit talks to me till I started thinking
My papa na pastor sef and everyone taught still thinks I will continue the ministry
All that feeling u think u feel is bobo GOD NO DEY

0ubenji:
Bro...sinz we're both sure this argument will always end in a stalemate as it always does. Kindly take my advice and let it be. Fighting em' won't make em' listen. Be selective in ur battles.
I don't knw if I'm the only one finks debate such as this, in no way helps me to learn more on the virtues of being a xtian. If it were debates of a Moralist Vs religious perspective, that's kool to me, but this! ..Nah
Issues of creation and existence lies deeply rooted in our personal belief in theories of logically inexplicable and ambiguous origins we choose to accept via FAITH.
Plz, I plead with u. Let d issue lie.
Cc: Winner01

Very true but I believe the theist are not doing something right because their bible says go out and do signs and wonders so the world will believe
Common sign dem no fit do their pastors keep staging miracles making it harder for athiest to believe there's a God

winner01:
Great thread Op.
Sadly, atheists will always explain it away. How can anyone even ask "who created God".
Man is bound by time and space. And there is proof that those two began with the beginning of the universe. So How does one ever try to probe what was in existence before the big bang. i.e before time and space

We havent even probed successfully how we came into existence and some deluded ones feel they can probe how God came into existence.

Some of them know the world was not created by nothing, but admitting this fact will make them admit the existence of a Creator.
Its not actually about reasoning, its more about parroting arguments heard from other atheists.

Little wonder the Bible said, God gave them over to a strong delusion.
lol.

Happy sunday oP.

Nawao this is silly
How do you know there is a God, you guys are now saying he exist outside the universe and he has always existed, how do you guys know this. We are not probing the existence of God because to us he doesn't exist and he HAS NEVER BEEN FELT
I rather probe my own existence because I can see me and you than something that doesn't interfere in anyway in our day to day

So sad people think Nigerians can not think

Well am a full Nigerian never bin out not even Benin republic hav not even bin to badagry sef

Am an atheist

tegabetty:
My dear, be bold enough to walk out of that marriage. Before he instills his belief in your son. You can pray 4 ur husband from ur comfort zone, ie away from him. It's not going to be easy but that's d bitter truth. You can't change a man it's only God that can do so. Pls get d book titled d road God walks. God bless you.

Wow am surprised
The husband too should walk away from the marriage too because the child is his son too
Please and please I can teach my son whatever I feel is best for him
You guys are yarning like you are very very sure of religion
Well the husband is sure of is athiesm too and he feels HIS son should go his way abeg.
How come the wife can teach the son her religion things but the husband can't teach his own when they both gave birth to him

Wow command ipaja days

TrajansKong:
I am worthy.

I shall ascend, laughing at the misery of the damned as I rise!

Lol
U mean you can go 1hr without commiting sin by thinking because your jesus said by thinking of it is a sin

Hmmmm unless you don't work or school even adeboye cannot bro

Please I want religious people to be sincere about this

If rapture takes place anyday who will go with christ with all the criteria set by Jesus Christ

Please unless you stay in doors in one bush because I have not met a human being that can go 1hr without multiple sin while looking for survival on this earth consciously or unconsciously
Which of you can go one hour without sin be sincere

Amberon11:
are you sane? if yes, just exit the thread or shut up.

e pain am

Hahahahahahaha pastor evengelist all these miracles happened and am in the same country
Abeg Evang make we hear word.

dalaman:
If consciousness is immaterial as your claim then why do material stuffs affect it like drugs? Alcohol affects consciousness alot for example. A brain surgery can permanently alter your consciousness. If consciousness is immaterial then why does material damage or chemical effect on the brain alter or affect this immaterial consciousness?

Bro tuale for you. This is the best answer so far
What happens before operation they take away your consciousness. How do doctors do that if it's spiritual

4everGod1:
I asked for an explanation and you are here giving me a comparative lecture. Do you have an explanation to my particular situation period!

Simple bro no explanation because these things happen to everyone and I mean EVERYONE bro

And I laugh when you said atheist don't have one answer to questions please bro atheism is not a religion, religious guys have one answer to things because u have a guideline (bible,quran) etc you get it

Op
Please can you tell us all the good things and bad things that has happened in ur short stay in life
Unless u want to tell us all has been well with you... if not where was God then?
Or he allows some bad to happen and averts the others
Sir you are not the most holy person on earth o there are people who truly dine and eat with God but still go through things that are bad
Haven't you seen a (holy) woman pray and cry over her son not to die even fast yet lost the child
Oh you are more holy than her or God's mercy is more on you than her

My brother stop dreaming this things happens to babalawo, iman, pastors and even the atheist abeg

Please stop feeling special no one is we are all the same

johnydon22:
For goodness sake when will you lot learn that atheism is independent of belief in supernatural things or events.
Atheism simply means disbelief in God(s) that's all..
Whether you believe in voodoo, spirits, witches any other superstitious mumbo jumbo as long as you don't share a belief in God(s) for any reason you may have you are an atheist.
Likewise someone can have a belief in God(s) but not spirity mumbo jumbo..
that he believes in any supernatural thing he thinks is real doesn't make him any less atheistic, what makes one an atheist is simply disbelief in God(s)
Atheism is not only about sciency world view only that majority of 21st century atheist lean towards science as the most reliable way of truthful deduction about nature..

Ok but is it logical for one not to believe in the existence of god but believe in juju?
To me its very contradicting
If you believe in the supernatural but dont believe in god you are making no logical sense in your "logic". It's just ridiculous to believe in no god but believe that there are ghosts for example
I stand with uyiiredia
The day I experience the power of juju and I confirm that its very true I will humbly go back to God shikena

Hi OP I will like to ask about what you saw while growing IN YOUR PRESENCE they shot someone several times and u stood there looking you must be superman
Men I went to one of the most notorious uni in nigeria but all my four years in school all i heard was tales like this buh yet hitmen still died by the GUN
Juju no dey

Naaaaa I was just discussing with a friend and my it just popped up

my friend that's not the reason why I rejected the christian faith a lot of thinking, reading and experience did
I just want to know if a Christian can help me understand that passage of the bible shikena

Sirwere please enlighten me then if its flawed

Please Christians if god cursed Eve after she ate the forbidden fruit that she will give birth in pains why do other animals feel pain when they do give birth
This to me prove that the bible was written by men and was not inspired by any god

Oh here we go we bendelites believe in that married and no cheating superstition
My folks used to tell me different tales cos they were born in village
One day I sat them down and asked them how many people did they see this happened to my mum said just one
I just moved my head and told her is it possible that in the whole village only one woman cheated on her husband and she started the bla Bla bla of how she heard from the person and that person about it happening but she only witness one.
Boss all na tales by moonlight

Edybleketara:
@ airell Supernatural forces exist in my village. In my village for instance, if a married woman commits adultery she dies instantly. So i believe supernatural forces exist.

Boss am from that kind of area all na tales by moon light I v seen people from my side that cheat on their husband and still hides it perfectly and nothing has happened to them

Bro if you are sure of supernatural power better look for a God to serve o because I don't believe you can be an atheist and still believe in supernatural forces you better be loyal to those supernatural power
Me I don't believe in any supernatural nonsense let them prove it to me I have met different people that claim supernatural thing all na tricks

See I want to serve God but please give me a reason to am not angry with the God I used to serve, infact if we go by religious people he has been very good to me. So am not angry I just want fact of supernatural.

Wow a lot of freethinkers coming up in nigeria am very happy I have been thinking about this god think since I was, I think 6 I use to ask my self "who born god" that was my major issue but still I served him with all my heart even when I tried committing suicide and the rope cut twice I thought it was God that saved me but when I started looking deep and thinking deep with a lot of reading especially science related I found my answer THERE IS NO GOD

Big thanks to johnydon22 and sure guy hardmirror
And hard mirror I had a deeper relationship with God than you in the past kai funny how I was fooling my self. Now I live a better life fearless of anyone, speak my mind at all times not scared of someone telling me of jazzing me and fucking my life up
Well am still a Christian atheist for those that want to understand it google is your best friend

crackhouse:
FOR THOSE OF U THAT ARE ALREADY BELIEVING THIS CRAP FROM THIS OP, PLS DON'T BOTHER READING HIS THRASH.
JUST FOUND OUT THAT THIS NIGGA NAMED HARDMIRROR HAS BEEN AN OFF AND ON ATHEIST FOR AGES
HE JUST WANT TO CONFUSE PEOPLE THE WAY HE'S CONFUSED.
HE'S JUST LYING THAT HE'S AN ATHEIST NOW BUT WILL PRAISE GOD TOMORROW.
LET'S HELP HIM OUT, I THINK HIS PROBLEM IS POVERTY.
HE ACTUALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT TO BELIEVE AGAIN AND HE'S NOT SURE OF THE WAY TO FOLLOW.
JUST TAKE A LOOK AT THE SCREENSHOTS OF HIS PREVIOUS POSTS
MAYBE HE HAS BEEN PRAYING FOR MONEY BUT THE MONEY IS NOT FORTHCOMING SO HE NOW BELIEVE THERE'S NO GOD AND WHEN THERE'S MONEY HE WILL BELIEVE IN GOD AGAIN.
POVERTY IS A SERIOUS DISEASE INDEED.
SURE HE NEEDS HELP!!!!!!!!!

crackhouse:
FOR THOSE OF U THAT ARE ALREADY BELIEVING THIS CRAP FROM THIS OP, PLS DON'T BOTHER READING HIS THRASH.
JUST FOUND OUT THAT THIS NIGGA NAMED HARDMIRROR HAS BEEN AN OFF AND ON ATHEIST FOR AGES
HE JUST WANT TO CONFUSE PEOPLE THE WAY HE'S CONFUSED.
HE'S JUST LYING THAT HE'S AN ATHEIST NOW BUT WILL PRAISE GOD TOMORROW.
LET'S HELP HIM OUT, I THINK HIS PROBLEM IS POVERTY.
HE ACTUALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT TO BELIEVE AGAIN AND HE'S NOT SURE OF THE WAY TO FOLLOW.
JUST TAKE A LOOK AT THE SCREENSHOTS OF HIS PREVIOUS POSTS
MAYBE HE HAS BEEN PRAYING FOR MONEY BUT THE MONEY IS NOT FORTHCOMING SO HE NOW BELIEVE THERE'S NO GOD AND WHEN THERE'S MONEY HE WILL BELIEVE IN GOD AGAIN.
POVERTY IS A SERIOUS DISEASE INDEED.
SURE HE NEEDS HELP!!!!!!!!!

You see this is one example that shows atheist are smart,pls read that his post slowly and smell the sarcasm joor. Religious guys needs to think, read ask and understand. kai you guys are too slow and gullible.

Light in ogba is so bad now

APC’s Prince Audu answers the 11 Billion Naira Question:
In a tweetChat with his followers today, APC Candidate for the November 21 Kogi state governorship election, Prince Abubakar Audu cleared the air on the N11 billion allegedly looted by him, amongst other questions tweeted at him by Nigerians using the hashtag #‎AskAudu‬. His answer:
“When I was in office between 1999 – 2003, we received average monthly allocation of N350 million - about N16.8 billion for the entire 4 years of my tenure. With these, we paid all salaries, we built Kogi State University, Obajana Cement Factory (now owned and run by Dangote Cement), Confluence Beach Hotel, Stella Obasanjo Library, Paparanda Square, Govt. house (Lugard) House, Government Office, secretariat, the banquet hall, started the confluence stadium and built the Lokoja township stadium.
Others are the Fed. Medical Centre + equipped same with 25 state-of-art ambulances, NTA Kogi, Radio Kogi, Kogi Graphics Newspaper, 75 rural electrification projects, the presidential lodge, Governor's lodge, Abuja, inter-state roads; We also built the specialist eye centre, commissioner's quarters, 200 housing units, just to mention a few. In 2002, the Federal Government instituted a panel to evaluate and reward performance. Out of 12 awards for the 36 state governors, I won 7 awards. Now, how could all these have been achieved?
When the then ruling People’s Democratic Party saw me as a threat, they started instigating Kogites against me, and when the people couldn’t buy into that, having known the truth, they orchestrated my arrest, which led to my being dragged before the ICPC, CCB, CCT and EFCC.
When all that failed, the then PDP led Kogi state government took over and issued a white paper, banning me from politics for 10years. I proceeded to court, and the court ruled that the Kogi government has no such right to ban me from politics.
The Economic and Financial Crimes Commission, EFCC, has also taken me to 7 courts in total (4 in Kogi and 3 in Abuja). In each of these cases, they’ll always pull out before judgment is passed and go back to frame up new figures; I was 1st accused of stealing N1.5b, then N4b, then N8b and finally N11 billion. It’s also on record that I was the most pursued politician by the EFCC, as the PDP wanted my head at all cost – always during elections.
And so I ask all Kogites and Nigerians, how could my administration have achieved all we did with less than N6 billion, if N11 billion was missing? Again only the work I did in Kogi State stands there today. The PDP govt. since I left office, has received about N550 billion, without accounting for it.
So the questions should be where have these funds gone? Why are Kogites still languishing in abject poverty? Why is Lokoja the dirtiest state capital in Nigeria? Why has EFCC been mute? Clearly the PDP led EFCC had a different agenda.
I leave these thoughts to my fellow Kogites to mull over and ponder. The truth is out there for those who care to know but my happiness is that all well-meaning Kogites know the truth and have pledged to support me and the APC to victory ahead of the November 21 Governorship election, as I promise to do even more, when we eventually take up power.
https://m.facebook.com/apcnig/posts/947153848688745

Saraki will be there tomorrow

On Boko Haram insurgency:

1. The results of the re-organisation we carried out in the military are being seen. There is progress being done. Our main concern is the condition of the Chibok girls and how we can recover them.

2. We have to first identify that those who claim to be Boko Haram leaders are actually the leaders, and they know where the Chibok girls are and their present condition.

3. France is more hands-on in the Boko Haram issue because Nigeria is totally surrounded by former French colonial countries and France has maintained a strong relationship with its former colonies.

On ministerial appointments

4. The ministers are there to make a lot of noise; for the politicians to make a lot of noise. But the work is being done by the technocrats. They are there to provide the continuity, dig into the records and then guide us, [those of us] who are just coming in.

5. I think this question of ministers is political. People from different constituencies want to see their people directly in government, and see what they can get out of it.

6. As for the cabinet, I said we will have one by the end of the month, and time flies. The end of the month is coming too quickly for my liking. I will send the names to the national assembly.

7. We have a government but we don’t have a cabinet. I don’t know how you define that but we have a government and that is why I am here. Under this system, we have to have ministers and we are going to have ministers.

On being president of Nigeria

8. The last time I was leader, I was in the barracks, this time I’m in the palace. It is so big and very expensive to maintain but it is there, it cannot be removed. I don’t think I am a different man but I am coming back in a different system. A better system because this is what works.

9. I was convinced in December 1991 when the Soviet union collapsed, that multi-party democratic system is the best form of government, otherwise it will be the same old problem.

Watch the full interview below: 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ONQJYM7m9I
http://facesinternationalmagazine.org.ng/?p=6336

that's true I wonder how minimum wage families survive and still pay house rent. Am just indecisive to pull out of my job and start something of my own. Atleast if I pull out another person can get a job that's true I wonder how minimum wage families survive and still pay house rent. Am just indecisive to pull out of my job and start something of my own. Atleast if I pull out another person can get a job lol

I have a job now kind of okay atleast in the past few years have been able to invest in properties that gives us that money but right now my job is getting tiring I always feel like pulling out so that's why I want to know if one can live well with 80k for now

School fees for the child is included o

Hello house I would like your opinion on this please
Is it possible to live an "okay life" with 80k monthly income for 3 mouths (wife husband and a kid) we live in our own house and the income we are sure of getting always because it is generated by us even if we decide to stay at home all year thanks

Please send the cost of 1.5kva for lcd, 5 bulbs and two standing fans to mickgare@yahoo.com thanks