₦airaland Forum

Interesting time for him he has lost his usefulness on Nairaland

If there is nothing to show for the money Jonathan spend on military what does the military use to technically defeat bolo haram

Why will a young man like you put all your energy on the pAst you are not asking your new found God why the economy is going from bad to worse

You support the apc arms purchase propaganda you are busted that is its a lie you want to start a new propaganda

All over the world security and defense budget are always in secret

He was so angry because propaganda he use to get into power is coming back to hunt him

No it's apc that jailed him

When pdp where fighting corruption they jailed their own members usually Their chieftain while apc is doing media trial only to opposition members

coolitempa:
Some of you guys should be banned from writing because of the trash that you post....when and where did james ibori get jailed by PDP

The op is writing out of frustration from the snail speed yesterday the wrote a simple post and proof that the dasuki case is propaganda the op try to respond with irrelevant links that embarrass his response

You clearly stated in your posted that pdp found efcc arrest and jailed there are own chieftain like James Ibori and co but today we are seeing different approach from pdp when they chase only opposition

The op said they black mail him why will anybody blackmail you they you let everybody know you have joined pdp now that you have move to pdp courtesy demand you let them know too not writing against your conscience

joseph1832:
I believe the governors standing trials for cases of corruption weren't dealing with matters as delicate and important as national security.

What do you mean by delicate and national security

That's why we are saying its a media trial and propaganda

You can see how the op is struggling to make a point with the post that's how efcc is struggling too making buhari look like 21st century tyrant

drss:
...as usual d op is basing his argument on newspapers. same on propaganda media outlets used by buari to decieve d public about d true nature of dasukigate.

You have said it all

The link the op posted makes what is saying vague and out of point there is no arm money giving to dasuki

joseph1832:
I believe you read the OP's thread? You saw all the links he attached right? Did snailspeed attach a single link to his thread yesterday?

There's a fine line between giving un substantiated opinions, and giving opinions with substance.

You post a link from a media organization that his part propaganda agenda from apc you want us to believe

If buhari is confident as a president let him try dasuki in the open like saraki

Good Jonathan has said money giving to dasuki is not for arm purchase why all this media trial

jaybee3:
cc: tonyebarcanista

They have been defited technically

TonyeBarcanista:
My own question is "Wher did they cook their own security vote gimmick when neither the exNSA, Finance Minister and Finance Director of ONSA made such argument?"

Do they even understand security vote?

My question to you where did the government get the 2.1 billion story from gej that appoint have said it that the money is not for arm purchase any other is mere propaganda and witch hunting

Just be deceiving yourself the money to dasuki is it for arm purchase or for security vote. So atiku that his involved in the deal is dead abi
You can get into power with propaganda but you can't rule by propaganda

EbukaFran:
snailspeed

How the government decides prioritize the recovery of loot is not important

But let us use our number 6, dont you think it is wiser to go for more recent events of theft where there is a higher chance of recovering the loot rather than start from 17 years ago when you are likely to face a lot of challenges in terms of collating evidence. For instance a lot of the principal actors in the Halliburton case might be dead.

Moreover, have you seen this

https://www.nairaland.com/2863831/fg-orders-fresh-review-halliburton

The hunter is now the hunted
Apc use propaganda to get in to power now they wants to rule us by propaganda

Is obasanjo government not part of the past why attack only Jonathan government

EbukaFran:
Rubbish

Without resolving issues of the past, then your future is bleak.

Your history if left uncorrected determines your future

Nigeria needs to defeat public corruption once and for all. That is the most important factor of the failure of this country to achieve its potentials. As of 2009, a Yale Report suggests that since 1960, Nigeria earned $1 trillion from oil revenue out of which $400 billion was misappropriated. That is 40% of the revenue.

We can imagine the % that went into private pockets between 2008-2015. The future generations will never forgive us if we fail to nip it.

The economic hardship Nigerians face today is a result of last minute dollarisation of the country by Jonathan in an effort to win a second term plus a decline in oil prices.

Recovery of some of these loot will help fund the budget and reduce the budget deficit> it will also lay a new foundation for the Nation so that people will know that there are consequences for robbing the country.

Buhari just want to pressurize the Chief Justice with media propaganda to influence his decision when they finally take dasuki to court

TonyeBarcanista:
1. Read the whole thing again especially the concluding part.

2. Where did you read or conjure "Security vote" from? Not even the primary suspects made such claim.

3. Dasuki and few others have been charged to court already.

4. EFCC did not give any media trial, the media only rport event. In fact, this is what the media does all over the world, including the trial of Blagojevich of Illinois, USA.

I read your entire post it only prove that it's just a propaganda it's so complex and deficult to comprehend like what snail speed wrote

Did the primary suspect say it on video that he collect money for arms

He has been charge to court and they grant him bail efcc said they have another case against him why not take him to court if it's not propaganda

If you watch crime fighter on tv when the police says what the suspect did the journalist are giving opportunity to interview the suspect or criminal, WHY IS IT THAT EFCC WILL TELL JOURNALIST THAT DASUKI ADMIT TO EVERYTHING THEY SAID WITHOUT GIVING DASUKI TO EXPLAIN HIS OWN PART

this is just a propaganda Buhari will be embarrassed in court that's why he is putting the Chief Justice in pressure now before taking Dasuki to court

It's a propaganda everything the op wrote is vague and complex unlike what snail speed wrote

The simple question for tonyebarcanista is
1; did good luck Jonathan give dasuki 2.1 billion dollars to purchase arm or not

2; security vote to dasuki can't he use it for any other things like making orientation against the terrorist on radio and TV

3; if it's not propaganda why is buhari afraid of the court

4; why efcc gives out information that they suppose to give to court to media only to tarnish their image

In summary tonyebarcanista fear God don't use because of what you want to gain from apc to write against your conscience

We are waiting this apc you just joined will embarrass your personality on Nairaland

TonyeBarcanista:
Will do that for Nigeria

You have said it all this tonyebarcanista was very smart in his analysis but he has lost it since when he joins apc

If the case against dasuki is not propaganda why detain them

thunder74:
You have changed. You use to research issues well before you write or respond but these days, you sound like the self-appointed APC information officer. Where and when did Dasuki admitted that Jonathan approved $2.2billion for arms? Provide the video link please because since the "media trial" commenced, Dasuki has not said anything unless the lies and propaganda published by the same set of government propaganda machines. Kindly provide the links to the video where Dasuki admitted your above assertion sir. The last thing I heard on National television from his lawyer is that the truth will come out in the open court. You are also aware that Metuh allegedly said the same thing that we should wait to hear his side of the story in the open court.
Bros, many of us love you especially your unbiased and intelligent opinions but lately sir, you have changed with the change. Hope you have not been "visited" too?

The op make the write up with fact you talking from emotion the summary of the post is security votes can be use for anything

Tell amechi and fashola to tell us what they use the security vote for

EbukaFran:
U are just wasting ur time with that snailspeed or whatever

I can bet a fortune what part of nigeria he is from

Only IPOB youths will support criminality without any shame

The IPOB youth even said you can use security votes to buy soap lolzzzzzz

IPOB youths will not kill us with laff

The courts that they took him grant him bail he his still in efcc custody if not propaganda

The rate efcc and dss give information about the corruption they fighting clearly shows its propaganda and nothing more

TonyeBarcanista:
He has already been taken to court. He has two pending cases in court

money for security votes can be used for anything dasuki can pay for the goverment to run advert on boko haram on radio and tv

TonyeBarcanista:
Now, the ONSA don't have tender board, this means no valid contract was awarded. For what purpose was Dokpesi paid? Which contract did he win? If Jonathan really gave "verbal" approval, then you can only charge Dasuki for conspiracy and accessory wrt Dokpesi but the person that authorised it and the recipient will be charged for the theft(or the recipient can be charged for money laundary). If Dokpesi claim that he won contract without tender board, it is also a crime because it is against the Public Procurement Act. Meanwhile, we will like to see the contract(if he so claim).

wetin this tonye dey write if its not propaganda let them take him to court

TonyeBarcanista:
Novermber 18, 2015....
"Embattled Former National Security Adviser (NSA) Sambo Dasuki has said all contracts on arms purchase and payments where done with the approval of former President Goodluck Jonathan..."
www.dailytrust.com.ng/news/general/arms-contracts-payments-endorsed-by-ex-president-jonathan-dasuki/120239.html

Sambo released a statement himself and you are talking bumkum..

Dedember 14, 2015... Sambo Speaking
"I also noted the statement of Sagir Bafarawa whose company is Dalhatu Investment which he stated that he received the sum of N4,633,000,000 from the account of the Office of the NSA. I authorised the payment . The money was for vehicles, motorcycles for youth empowerment and women sent to Saudi Arabia. I got the proposal from the President. I do not have the proposal; it should be at the office in the Villa "
https://www.today.ng/news/national/51484/arms-deal-ex-nsa-dasuki-indicts-jonathan-says-he-acted-on-his-instruction

The so-called names confirmed receipt of money, and you say he didn't mention names? Perhaps it was his ancestors that released those statements.


Metuh confirmed receiving N400m from ONSA for special assignment, EFCC said the N400m was meant for arms purchase. And you are here arguing bumkum?



Abeg I don tire for you...shiiiiiift

where is that omenka boy that like propaganda come and comment

this is treasonable post in the eyes of APC ZOMNBIES i think olisa metuh should add this post to his statement

snailspeed:
I have been following the so called Dasukigate and I am amazed how easy it is for a government to use the media to deceive and distract the ignorant masses. History has shown that propaganda remains the biggest tool of any government that intends to enslave a people. Unfortnately, even the current opposition has been quite incompetent in putting the records straight

For the records, there is nothing like a $2.1B arms money. It was a propaganda masterstroke well concotted by the DSS and EFCC to distract everyone from the incompetence of the Buhari administration. That is why former president Goodluck Jonathan has come out twice now to put the records staright that he never approved any $2.1B arms money. But it seems the ignorant masses still dont get it. So where did the "$2.1B arms money" headline originate from?

$2.1B was the monies that was allocated to the office of the NSA throughout Dasuki's tenure as NSA. These monies come under SECURITY VOTE. It was not money allocated to the purchase of weapons as the DSS and the EFCC have claimed. That is why they cant take Dasuki to court. They will lose woefully. Security vote is not money allocated for arms purchase. Of the whole monies that make up the $2.1B, only the $300 million from the returned Abacha loot was actually recommended for the purchase of arms. That is why in court, the charges brought against Dasuki was in that range. But they are likely going to lose in court for that because weapons were actually purchased. Whether they are worth $300 million is what the EFCC will have to prove in court. But from the way they have been refusing to follow the court process, one is safe to assume that they dont trust their own case against Dasuki.

But why did they go with the headlines of "$2.1 Billion arms purchase money" when they knew it was not the case? Because the whole anti coruption fight was only a propaganda stunt from the beginning. It was a well crafted stunt to distract the masses and persecute any dissenting voice so Buhari can fully consolidate power. Does that mean I think many of the politicians mentioned in the scandal are clean? By no means! Nigerian politicians are corrupt without a doubt including the presidency and everyone in the rulling APC party. The president's campaign itself was sponsored from corruption. The Amaechi corruption scandals are well documented with very strong evidence.

If Dasuki has stolen any funds, he should be prosecuted accordingly, but the media propaganda and charade has got to stop. Media trial is injustice in itself. I find it really deceitful when I see lines like "what will you tell the Nigerian soldiers that didnt have weapons to fight and were killed because Dasuki shared the arms money". That is nothing but propaganda and trying to appeal to sentiments to push a narrative. If that were the case, what has the same military been using to fight BH in the last 8 months since Buhari has not bought any new weapons? What weapons did the army use to push back BH prior to the 2015 elections? Did they push BH back with their bare hands too? Even Lie Mohammed claims BH has been defeated. With which weapons did the army defeat BH? With their bare hands?

It is important we put all these straight so we dont fall for cheap propoaganda by a government that has completely lost its way. The same government that claims they are fighting corruption came out with a terrible corruption laden budget where they intended to connect cables from the President's residence to the drivers residence with N300 million. In fact, the budget of yams was so laden with coruption that they had to shamelessly withdraw it.

The world has changed. If the current government thinks they will continue to rule with propaganda, they should think again because they will be exposed again and again. Thank God for social media and the Internet!

Lai mohammed fit say its olisa metuh that steal it, confused goverment

delazore:
How can a whole nigerian budget be missing just like that... I suspect those rats

Even obama too was happy for national assembly and buhari for seeing the budget, we are really in a special season